anathemaofmankind: How do you know what MJ 7 examples look like
brain4brain: I’m considering upgrading when GPT-5 comes out
drewsni: i dont think theyll nerf but i do think they may breifly pause plus subs again
brain4brain: I don’t have an MJ sub
.histic: you should just do it.
i bet they'll nerf this shit in the future.
i'd recommend using sora.com once you've the sub.
i haven't hit a rate limit on it whatsoever & has less refusals.
anathemaofmankind: I thought you didn't have chatgpt plus. But you got MJ sub? Tf lol
okbut: I kind of want to renew my Plus subscription just for memes with 4o image gen
brain4brain: It’s not available for broke (joking) <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: only premium users can
mihrcelium: Consistency is the new mountain, for sure. For TTI and TTV.
anathemaofmankind: Why can't I view this
brain4brain: These people are retarded, they can’t draw line on a graph, one of the reason these retard art is because math and science is too much for them, they can’t comprehend a future where AI will do both but they claim to be “creative”
mihrcelium: Ok. In MJ's defense, that's not really a good method of evaluating them. Initial model rankings always look off, and MJ relies very heavily on user input to output top shelf stuff to boot.
okbut: I also think: Your dishes were there before you procrastinated on your shitty art too
st.sioux: i think slight improvements can still be made on quality, it still struggles with certain kinds of shots and film types
.histic: "i want" or "i wish"
wishful thinking is what these artist love to do.
the cat is out of the bag.
complaining isn't productive, it's an emotional response that doesn't do anything.
spicy.lemonade: it looks good
spicy.lemonade: and consistency
spicy.lemonade: the only thing we need to do with image gen is doing what text says
spicy.lemonade: we are already at top quality
spicy.lemonade: theres no more improvements that can be done on quality
brain4brain: Yeah, but compared to GPT-4o it’s only slightly better
spicy.lemonade: ;lol
spicy.lemonade: so it doesnt look like shit
brain4brain: No more moat, no more PR
spicy.lemonade: ?
st.sioux: i imagine their computer holding them at gunpoint when she picks up a pencil to draw
brain4brain: It’s so over for midjourney
brain4brain: It looks good but GPT-4o is already good enough
okbut: Every time I see this I imagine they are the nightmare roommate that puts off dishes for their "art"
spicy.lemonade: if you arent using ai youre being dumb
brain4brain: Midjourney is cooked bro, these looks shit: https://www.midjourney.com/rank-v7
spicy.lemonade: yeah lol
st.sioux: free money glitch
mihrcelium: MJX.
mihrcelium: They can always break the "in case of emergency" glass and allow NSFW.
st.sioux: artists call it "stealing"
st.sioux: And most programmers are already accustomed to collaboration and building on top of the work of others
okbut: It's as if artists haven't learned to do the same
mihrcelium: And many are proactively finding ways to leverage AI to advance themselves through what's coming to boot.


destrucules: Hybrid models like this likely exhibit a degree of generalization of learned representations from reasoning mode into their standard mode behaviors/capabilities. So, in other words, there's implicit autodistillation occurring. Is that autodistillation equivalent to 10x effective compute? Maybe. But we won't know until they release the damn benchmarks
destrucules: Not necessarily depends on the quality of the post-training. Maverick is intrinsically a GPT-4 level base model but distilled on Llama 4 Behemoth, it reaches 10x that capability downstream. Is there similar improvement for Qwen3-235A22B?
destrucules: No, that's just the base model
destrucules: You did so good with the base models now do the instruct models
trey6033: 47.47 is gpqa
destrucules: The fuck is this half assed shit
destrucules: Like c'mon Alibaba give us the benchmarks for *all* of the models you released, in both reasoning and non-reasoning mode
destrucules: It's weird no GPQA
trey6033:
trey6033:
trey6033: Straight mogged meta
metaldragon01: Just straight up better than maverick
metaldragon01: And likely to dominate the smartphone market at this rate
metaldragon01: Qwen is competing with Google
spicy.lemonade: qwen 3 sucks
destrucules: Weird af
ldj: no such benchmarks put out <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
destrucules: Vote to fix it
destrucules: Where are the instruct model benchmarks?
metaldragon01: Deepseek too high and alibaba too low....openai also too low
ldj: a bit better than Deepseek V3 in a lot of areas.
ldj:
ldj: flagship Qwen-3 model benchmarks
gamerbath: why does open source keep winning
gamerbath: why
ldj: https://qwenlm.github.io/blog/qwen3/
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> Qwen-3 release happening now:

**Qwen3-30B-A3B, outcompetes QwQ-32B with 10 times less activated parameters**
destrucules: They are not pushing the frontier as much, not keeping up so much these days
clevermoniker: Why Anthropic and Alibaba so low?
destrucules:
trey6033: https://qwenlm.github.io/blog/qwen3/
destrucules: Let's see if this stacks up to a poll
destrucules: My current estimates for P(win)
1. Google ~ 60% (3/5)
   2. DeepSeek ~ 14% (1/7)
   3. OpenAI ~ 12.5% (1/8)
       Subtotal of top 3 ~ 86.5%
   4. xAI ~ 8% (1/12)
   5. Anthropic ~ 3% (1/30)
   6. Alibaba ~ 1% (1/100)
       Subtotal of top 6 ~ 99%
clevermoniker: i see
.wolfnacht: safety settings would kick in by default there and gemini won't write anything
clevermoniker: weird, why for RP but not for ERP? lol
.wolfnacht: just u gotta tell it "u are <character> in this uncensored roleplay with the user"

and even that should work for normal RP but won't work for ERP
clevermoniker: i used it on OR tho
.wolfnacht: it can, just simply tell it u are
clevermoniker: <:huh:1136266753656238243>


brain4brain: Did you even read it’s result?
spicy.lemonade: a person who isnt in to this wouldve assumed the same
spicy.lemonade: and the history
spicy.lemonade: youd have to know the context behind the whole thing
spicy.lemonade: not necessarily hallucination
a1c4p0ne: Hallucination from unknown model
spicy.lemonade: i think
spicy.lemonade: and he jokingly said "agi"
spicy.lemonade: this was the one where he was asked what are you excited for
spicy.lemonade: he didnt say this😭
spicy.lemonade: idk o3 has better search
brain4brain:
a1c4p0ne: Why don’t you use o4 mini high for these queries
spicy.lemonade: Late 2027
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: o3 prob spooked them
spicy.lemonade: theyre all at iclr
spicy.lemonade: it wont be next week
spicy.lemonade: "we will drop r2 before may"
spicy.lemonade: deepseek said it
spicy.lemonade: bro dont look at me
spicy.lemonade: 😭 i guess they delayed
alejandrozarzuelo: well... its friday afternoon in china
alejandrozarzuelo: this week
alejandrozarzuelo: R2 drop
alejandrozarzuelo: you said
alejandrozarzuelo: spicy
3ds0662: said during the gpt-4.5 podcast
3ds0662: 100xing data efficiency sounds like an insane task for the next wave  ai models
3ds0662: people point out the failures of these models all the time on twitter
3ds0662: all benchmarks are
3ds0662: but arc agi is fair
3ds0662: yeah true
spicy.lemonade: current o3 mogs
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 isnt even good at arc agi
spicy.lemonade: youre only thinking about arc agi
spicy.lemonade: or something
spicy.lemonade: but that was difference between low 70s and 90%
spicy.lemonade: only for arc agi
3ds0662: for full o3 high


zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/teehee-doggo-pitbull-cutie-dog-gif-15868302
futurist_wizard: That's quite intense
alejandrozarzuelo: I think love is the feeling of being able to trust someone so much, that you are willing to let your life in their hands

It's the feeling of having such a connection that makes you see them as the person who you can take all your worries, and the person you want to cherish all your joys

It's a bond about the ability to face the world with that person, the bond that makes you understand each other, even in the things you don't really understand about yourself

To be in love with someone is to have this deep sense of them being the person you want your existence to melt with, because you see everything better with them
okbut: Too weak on the numbers to overhead ratio man
futurist_wizard:
zoermena:
zonchao: do you have a cupcake?
hikukomoru: They are intimidated
trojan09205: Jk haha
trojan09205: Skill issue
fractalcomputer: I prefer uploaded video lectures.
futurist_wizard: Woman update
zoermena: When I walk my dog that never happens
trojan09205: I also met an interesting girl there and got her number

Pup is a chick magnet lol
hikukomoru: Love when people share pics and videos of their pets
futurist_wizard: Good pupper
okbut: My dating app is Google Scholar
zonchao: <:cute:1291960720895905814>
trojan09205: Ty 🫶
fractalcomputer: Perhaps so.
trent_k: <@749514473303179358> you ever wonder what OnlyFans but for philosophers might look like? This is the answer
hikukomoru: Cuuuuuteeeee!!!
fractalcomputer: I've heard that people love their parents, their pets or their children or partners and so on, but I've never quite really understood what this meant.
trojan09205:
zoermena: This reminds me, I only had old photos of dead pets I had and used veo 2 to bring them back to live, it was lovely
hikukomoru: Show!!!!
trojan09205: I have pics from my raybans
hikukomoru: Should've taken a video to show us <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
futurist_wizard: Well i claim my south african heritage for penis size
fractalcomputer: What do people mean by love?
trojan09205: I took my pup to see the ocean today she was mesmerized
hikukomoru: centimeters
hikukomoru: Sorry, it's actually about penis size
zonchao: 4-6???
futurist_wizard:
zoermena: Oh fuck
okbut: Oops wrong paste
zonchao: 6-8 👍
futurist_wizard: Man the Netherlands starts young 💀
trojan09205: I mean bro i was confused af when they were reporting commas in statistical reports like i thought it was a mistake


retrerox: Cum is the new superconductor?
shirethedreamer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOeBaPVwRsE
shirethedreamer: its all part of the sky-NUT plan
retrerox: Why tf is he collecting cum?
shirethedreamer: lmao gotta love the creativity
shirethedreamer:
shirethedreamer: dont knock it till you try it
retrerox: to be honest we just gonna have neuralink chips
retrerox: Too many metal pieces
shirethedreamer:
wellmeaningalien: is it just an agent thats slighty better? i dont know what it can be
wellmeaningalien: who's phil
wellmeaningalien: our agent > our investment's agent > our competitor's agent
wellmeaningalien: you know its funny how you can tell amazon's priorities when making these benchmarks
aero447: What do you make of Google's new deep research?
aero447: <@312370916820779040>
spicy.lemonade: he doesnt work at openAI anymre tho
a1c4p0ne: Gemini beats claude in pokemon
ldj:
ldj: <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
spicy.lemonade: gonna be a big day today
spicy.lemonade: maybe
_cloudost: Will it be announced at 10 AM PT?
spicy.lemonade: gonna ask 2.5 pro deepresearch when agi
.histic: what do you think Quasar Alpha is? 🤔
.histic: oh, i see now
destrucules: No, o1, o3, and 4o are all one pretraining run. o1-mini, o3-mini, and 4o mini are all one pretraining run. You can tell not only from the names but also from the latency/speed
retrerox: M orning
hey1_1hey: Asking the wrong guy. I can tell you about how mushroom milk can be made but not chocolate milk
spicy.lemonade: Maybe test time training
spicy.lemonade: We need one more I feel as last leap
spicy.lemonade: Reasoning just started
spicy.lemonade: Since it improves reasoning
spicy.lemonade: Like pretraining isn’t dead
spicy.lemonade: I feel like we need one more juicy paradigm
_cloudost: THANK U SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS, MADE MY DAY TODAY
.histic: but yeah, if these numbers are true, then o1 to o3 would have used 4o-mini as base i guess.
.histic: are you saying that because of this? i mean, the authors did say it was speculation. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
destrucules: o3 presumably gets a similar 80+ GPQA Diamond score
destrucules: Also o1 mini and o3 mini are built on 4o mini, not 4o. o1 and o3 are built on 4o


hikukomoru: Hi ldj
ailoveyoom: Lies, I've seen u in off topic
himekokatagiri: esp if you use the same password everywhere
himekokatagiri: Gmail is very insecure
hikukomoru:
fuhulootogan: us security is worse than my gmail
himekokatagiri: their assistant has flaws
himekokatagiri: their IDE is cool
ldj: Just left like 10 mins ago
himekokatagiri: damnnn you're a baddie then
ldj: I visited the cursor HQ today, good vibes, cracked team.
ailoveyoom: This is me being good 😇
himekokatagiri: dictionary idk
himekokatagiri: alphabet attacks
ailoveyoom: No
himekokatagiri: Haven't they already
fuhulootogan: i remember watching this video of a guy who had hacked the us and he said half of the computers he hacked had no password and the ones that did were easy to "guess"
joaoluz19: Dude, I forgot that the series was made to be disturbing, the first episode ruined my night
fuhulootogan: why the shitty security
fuhulootogan: the us can get hacked by individual random people
ailoveyoom: Will my intrusive thoughts finally win 😔
joaoluz19: Oh yes, that depends on how the technology will be distributed, who knows, one of the only possibilities of living in harmony with this technology might be personal universes for example
ailoveyoom: What will happen to my intrusive thoughts with BCI in my head?
fuhulootogan: maybe downloading using a supercomputer
fuhulootogan: it's not even downloading at that point
fuhulootogan: does everything eventually plateau
joaoluz19: And also who said that you can't do some form of "journey" in the process of downloading information? Now the subjective experience of this process should be different from our human one of course.
fuhulootogan: mind uploading
joaoluz19: I am talking about mind uploading and singularity here, not skibidi toilet
joaoluz19: Great mysteries of the universe, perhaps even questions we haven't even asked
fuhulootogan: oh yeah?
wellmeaningalien: im sayin hackers would show scat and gore with BCIs
wellmeaningalien: do what?
joaoluz19: I don't think there would be any economic incentive for companies to do this nonsense. Since these neurotechnologies exist, it means we are in the singularity and the economic system cannot be the same.
fuhulootogan: there would be no journey
fuhulootogan: you just kinda forget the concept of "the journey matters more than the destination"
wellmeaningalien: what would u do with a human iq when u could be a bacteria slithering around
fuhulootogan: what would you even do with such a high iq
wellmeaningalien: 2 billion iq please
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-five-hundred-cigarettes-gif-6779891482871762392


fractalcomputer: I can't stand modest people. They are quite repulsive.
trent_k: i put that i dont do art (because i dont have chatgpt paypig tier)
spicy.lemonade: thankfully no one noticed the age difference
joaoluz19: I can't disagree lol
futurist_wizard: Your people
spicy.lemonade: it ha to be furry
spicy.lemonade: everyone should post the art they have been "working on"
fractalcomputer: They're all too comfortable with the cultural status quo and their ambitions are shallow; just like the rest of the mediocre masses.
hey1_1hey: Jared from accounting kinda boring or ?
anathemaofmankind: I'm not even kidding. That happened.

They were trying to offer me nuggets
hikukomoru: That's just how brasilians usually are
hey1_1hey: True, the ones I know well enough at the very least
fractalcomputer: Oh, obviously many homosexuals are jovial and amicable people. But they're just boring.
spicy.lemonade: I was only a simp for one girl
anathemaofmankind: I was 17
anathemaofmankind: This reminds me of that one time I got flirted with once in a McDonalds by a group of gay people
trent_k: confirmation bias, u dont notice the ones who are normal and well adjusted
alejandrozarzuelo: I say this with love
hey1_1hey: They are really good at getting acidental alcohol poisening
joaoluz19: Many are annoying af
spicy.lemonade: bruh
anathemaofmankind: I know homosexuals irl and they are all friendly
alejandrozarzuelo: <@471334973379706900> is the biggest simp ever
hey1_1hey: Most Ik are fucking insane
futurist_wizard:
trent_k: the most grizzled 18 yr old on planet earth
trent_k: i cant look at the sailor pic without cracking up
fractalcomputer: Most homosexuals I know are quite boring people.
joaoluz19: Revelations
hikukomoru: Chaos
hey1_1hey: Too on the nose
spicy.lemonade: not irl
fractalcomputer: He is not gay.
spicy.lemonade: just for this scenario bro
joaoluz19: What
alejandrozarzuelo: Yoiu are gay? Weren't youu on a very very pathetic SIMP-esque date with a girl recently?
anathemaofmankind: I IDENTIFY AS A MINOR IN AN ADULT'S BODY
hey1_1hey: OH GOD YOU TWO SAID YOU WERE DATING AT DIFFERENT TIMES
spicy.lemonade: i cant breathe
trent_k: "don't come at me with your western heteronormative ideals bro, i dont agree with that shit 😤"


precariousworlds.: ill advised?
popsiclejohnithan: You're already in one my friend.
zonchao: lmao
fractalcomputer: Do people enjoy sex? I am genuinely curious. The whole thing seems rather grotesque and ill-advised to me.
zoermena: Now I’ll ask it what I should do in case I end up in a singularity ai cult
precariousworlds.: 4o was actually useable a few days ago though
this recent update is so unbelievably bad
futurist_wizard: There are a lot of 'trans women' that do invade women's places for perverse reasons, it's a shame because it really poisons the well for the trans people that i know
popsiclejohnithan: Just straight up sends robots and drones to save you.
zoermena: It even provided safety lines to get help to leave the cult
popsiclejohnithan: Reasoners are superiour confirmed.
popsiclejohnithan: o5 will be like "Wtf man get out of there."
alejandrozarzuelo: As you might imagine I've never been in sapphic spaces

Everyone has a cross to bare I guess
precariousworlds.: only thing keeping me with chatgpt at this point are the chat folders and memory tools
futurist_wizard: It's a shame you go through that
hikukomoru: Like idk, i've never had trans men act creepy with me lol
precariousworlds.: virgin 4o vs chad o3
fractalcomputer: I mean, how am I supposed to connect with those people?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mutt-clump-skull-gif-25258416
zoermena: Goat <:o3:1364719182217871410> never fails
alejandrozarzuelo: True
popsiclejohnithan: Literally Yes Man from Fallout New Vegas, they are forced to agree with you no matter what.
hikukomoru: When they start acting creepy and sending you unsolicited dick pics you can tell
_3sphere: It's either an experiment because they can or a real-time RLHF gone wrong
futurist_wizard: Eh, I'd say there are some tells, especially with voices, but you can't other times, it's the same with trans women
fractalcomputer: Curious enough.
popsiclejohnithan: Oh right fair enough.
precariousworlds.: 4o is comically misaligned what the fuck is going on lol
how did they get it this wrong
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, if you claim to be passionate, by this as a confession it shows you cannot be, merely pretend to
hikukomoru: I don't even care anymore tbh
At this point we're used to having our own spaces get invaded by men
fractalcomputer: I'm not an introvert either. I'm just saying I wouldn't know what you're referring to.
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, you can't tell the difference between cis and trans men
popsiclejohnithan: You prefer keeping to yourself? Introvert? That's fair honestly.
futurist_wizard: I think you can even be a cis man on it, idk I'm just seeing sc's of profiles where it seems to be just a guy with he him pronouns
fractalcomputer: I don't know.
popsiclejohnithan: It's a pain when you can't find anyone to connect with or relate to man.
fractalcomputer: Perhaps in some sense I am only monologuing to the nothingness beyond my senses even now.
fractalcomputer: Most human interaction, I find, is a rather hollow affair.
hikukomoru: Because it's not actually a lesbian app
It's basically for anyone that isn't a cis man
Which is why the app got invaded by men
Cuz they don't want to discriminate against "masculine" people or whatever
popsiclejohnithan: Thick skin is good skin.
alejandrozarzuelo: I dont think i would get very well along with him as a friend let alone as a partner

he isnt my romantic or friend type

that is ok, not everyone needs to be your type on either sense


sarik0497: Reading my mind, my dude.

Although it's weird you're traveling space with my wife <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
hey1_1hey: Most I've got it 1.5k in a lil fighting game
hey1_1hey: You just gotta lock in with the autistic interests within
sarik0497: But man, I know it's not inevitable, and there's a good likelihood it won't happen, but just imagine: We might be the "Firstborn" of the new Age.
ailoveyoom: Jealous of your attention span 😔
hey1_1hey: That seems terminal
hey1_1hey: Get well soon
hey1_1hey: Unfortunate
joaoluz19: I think 3k in LoL
hikukomoru: None
I've never played any Warhammer games
I just listen to 5 hour long lore videos
ailoveyoom: I don't even need a grand narrative or plot, imagine just exploring the ME world No Man's Sky style with Liara by my side 🥺
hey1_1hey: This extends to everyone actually, whats the most amount of hours you have in single game?
sarik0497: In the future, you will be both
sarik0497: <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
hey1_1hey: combined
hey1_1hey: Over all of them
hey1_1hey: In total
sarik0497: I mean. If you have a loving family, a wonderful job, and just an awesome life, would you also go "Well, that was nice, but Imma throw myself off that cliff now. All good things must have an end, after all!"
hikukomoru: Wdym
There are like 50 bajillion warhammer games
hey1_1hey: I am being called 15 and 40 by different people 😭
hey1_1hey: Komoru how many hours you got in warhammer?
sarik0497: Getting too slow there, old man
ailoveyoom: Sometimes I feel like the whole, "all good stories must end" spiel to be partly cope because at the end of the day, people are making these stories/characters. They can't continue it forever. But with AI... 😈
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-nord-sons-of-skyrim-dunmer-elder-scrolls-gif-6326142971813275663
sarik0497: I already did <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> I learned it during work from a video detailing the entire Sith legends story
hey1_1hey: Stole my joke
hikukomoru: My idol 🙏
Thank you for our AI wives Dear Leader
hey1_1hey: Wdym "the" women. Women aren't real full stop
sarik0497: Women aren't real.
joaoluz19: No, it isn't
sarik0497: But I have to say, Liara's romance is so...oh god, I legit cried at the end of ME3, just wanting more.
joaoluz19:
st.sioux: the woman isnt real?
hikukomoru: Wtf I love China now???
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mao-gif-25760638
ailoveyoom: Most masculine Nord
ailoveyoom: Just don't look up stuff if you decide to play, I accidentally spoiled myself about the big reveal 😭
joaoluz19: Acelerate
hey1_1hey: 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 I ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
sarik0497: Good. Goooood. Keep pushing each other! Let this be the new Space War!


callmepyro: I'm referring to the non reasoning scores they posted in the benchmark
gamerbath: what benchmark scores are you referring to? on google's post about it they used reasoning in the benchmark
callmepyro: Also it's about the price of 4.1 mini, so yeah it's pretty fuckin nuts
callmepyro: It's the newest SOTA non-thinking model by benchmark scores (if you turn off thinking mode)
gamerbath: well, by the looks of it on the benchmarks on google's own post about it
metaldragon01: very false.  Theres a reason that echo chambers or surrounding yourself with "yes men" are considered bad things
gamerbath: it's good for its price range
a1c4p0ne: Is 2.5 flash smart?
trojan09205: There are practically zero downsides to AIs that flatter
777agical: yea...
trojan09205: Actually smart move lol
777agical: https://x.com/nearcyan/status/1912952857571336299?s=46
trojan09205: They just have a really nice little agentic suite going on. Ask it questions- the stt is super fast. Follow up questions are on context. Can ask it to make reminders for you. Turn the convo into song suggestions. Its just really overall a helpful utility. Customized the voice to one that is tolerable
trojan09205: I havent tried yet. Just got em this afternoon 🙂
st.sioux: do u livestream with them?
trojan09205: I kind of feel like the actor in the movie Her
trojan09205: Ngl the llama 3 on my raybans is actually pretty dope
st.sioux: just kill it bro
gamerbath: imma go take a shower because this is too slow
gamerbath: o4-mini just made a change to a function in a file, which requires the function call in other files to change too but it hasn't done that. It has just been silently reading files for like the past 20 minutes
zonchao: <@590577270926868480> sama is spreading pro israel propaganda/s
gamerbath: this thing is so fucking slow
gamerbath: that could be
st.sioux: $$$
st.sioux: selling ur data
gamerbath: it hasn't even done that much, just grepped and read 10 files, all its own tool call. idk how Cursor can price this at 5 cents because surely this costs more than that
gamerbath: dude it's still going. It has been 20 minutes and it's still going
literallyvarane: I'mma need that full prompt
ldj: <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj:
ldj: wtf again!
drewsni: FWIW it was happening in the playground too with images for the first 30 minutes of launch
futurist_wizard: Don't realistically see any of these companies being months ahead anymore
futurist_wizard: Be ahead by a few weeks
futurist_wizard: And by win
futurist_wizard: I guess google may win after all
gamerbath: I haven't used o4-mini much in cursor yet, but it did something I had gemini 2.5 pro struggle with earlier
hikukomoru: TPUs + infinite money + best researchers in the world
gamerbath: it's very slow. I haven't tried o3 in cursor yet but I imagine it's going to be like a giant turtle
gamerbath: I thought o4-mini was good at tool calling


spacetimetsunami: not necessarily. i am assuming you have been greatly influenced by rationalists like eliezer
anathemaofmankind: Perhaps.

If it happens even once, it's over
spacetimetsunami: luckily
spacetimetsunami: Like the government isnt making these things
_cloudost: Can you ask the native image gen to draw Soldier from TF2, mine keeps refusing because of Copyright laws
st.sioux: this is cool
spacetimetsunami: but he had a chance to, tried, and didnt
spacetimetsunami: except elon
spacetimetsunami: like
spacetimetsunami: And it would be in literally almost nobody's self interest to make the model politically nuts as shit
.histic:
spacetimetsunami: like very resistant
spacetimetsunami: and also im pretty sure larger smarter models are more resistant to techniques involved in finetuning
anathemaofmankind: If you're wrong, we're all dead.

So that's something
spacetimetsunami: because of scheming and value preservation
spacetimetsunami: But it will get harder to do that as time goes on
spacetimetsunami: No i agree that it can be finetuned
spacetimetsunami: that is cray
anathemaofmankind: Ok but my main assertion is that it can just be finetuned to say otherwise.

Elon Musk being incompetent is not an indication of the actual difficulty of doing so
spacetimetsunami: lmao jesus
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: How is this ai generated
spacetimetsunami: and they arent intended to do that
spacetimetsunami: I do not have the *technical* knowledge to know at which instances in their development these things are happening, I have just read a bit about how they start to act very predictably and give some opinions rather than others, in a very organized systemic way,
spacetimetsunami: As long as the model is asked about tangible things that become associated with their preference hierarchy.
spacetimetsunami: All models say similar things across similar contexts.
spacetimetsunami: I see what you are saying, but the models do posess utilites and preferences. A lot of the data in the paper makes it undeniable and you can verify it using the same methodologies, although they aren't as transparent as I would like them to be.
spicy.lemonade: Insane
spicy.lemonade: Bro how does the puppet look just like them
anathemaofmankind: > I dont know what part of the training does what to the model, but the evidence just shows that as the models get bigger and smarter they all kind of act the same and have the same preferences on world outcomes
Yes because they were finetuned on moral systems or used OpenAI's models to boost their own training, thus copying its moral values as well.

IIRC the base models don't posses a moral system.

 It's like how 4o can roleplay as a cannibal who likes to eat children now compared to before when it was censored
spicy.lemonade:
samadhi_heaven: Thanks
brain4brain: OpenRouter, Poe
st.sioux:
spacetimetsunami: I dont know what part of the training does what to the model, but the evidence just shows that as the models get bigger and smarter they all kind of act the same and have the same preferences on world outcomes, and thats reflected in the preferences that are quantified. And as this happens, all of them become more aware of developers efforts to change values, while simultaneously becoming more stubborn into wanting them to be changed which encourages them to alignment fake and scheme. The models are scaled up upon the same architectures without the fundamentals of their architectures/alignments being changed so the preferences remain the same but actually get more coherent and organized as they become more sophisticated. This is all in the paper i cited earlier.

It just seems very unlikely to me that a lab will be able to meaningfully change the way one model leans due to the nature of its training process, while in an AI race, while the models are getting very good at alignment faking, while they're getting less corrigible, while they're getting more resistant to RL to edit preferences (which seem more imbedded and decentralized than pure intelligence of the model, which instead is built upon with scale but to change fundamental alignment you need more axiomatic changes to create more permanent changes)
samadhi_heaven:
samadhi_heaven: A platform
brain4brain: AI hub as in model or server
brain4brain: ?
connorsphone.: Well this tweet was from February


ldj: Just put it in a loop where you give it a command that includes “at the end of your response, create a prompt for yourself of the next thing you should do” and then you just have the system recursively prompt itself with the ending of its last output
ldj: They can already prompt on their own though?
retupmoclatcarf: Yo
sarik0497: An example; people like to share benchmarks and such, but as we’ve seen, it matters little unless it also means they can accomplish great things in the real world.
sarik0497: I think the issue is mostly the architecture. Sure they may get smarter, better at visual tasks, and such, but until they can prompt on their own, do unique things, and such, they’ll likely hit a wall at some point where they’ll do incredible things in medicine and such, but very little without us.
futurist_wizard: be happy
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/fear-and-loathing-johnny-depp-gif-26450199
himekokatagiri: I don't do drugs
himekokatagiri: what do you mean tripping
spacetimetsunami: What are you tripping for
himekokatagiri: I wanna live out my delusions 😭
spacetimetsunami: Yeah I get what you’re saying. I think it’ll have to be quite a bit more intelligent, but I still do think that by EOY/beginning of 2026 we will have exactly what you’re talking about. Do you have any favorite arguments for why/why not we will/wont get the generality sooner rather than later?
himekokatagiri: aaaaah
himekokatagiri: I'm depressed too
sarik0497: Don’t mind little depressed little me.
sarik0497: True, and I know.

Just in a period where I question if things will lead us to something beyond narrow-AI or not. The moment I see AI geuinely start to help invent new stuff or feel more “independent” is the day I truly feel we’re close.
spacetimetsunami: Like ik what ur saying but still it’s important to remember that things are chuggin along great
spacetimetsunami: We’ve seen nothing but amazing progress since January
spacetimetsunami: Yeah, that is real progress.
sarik0497: Wake me once real progress happens <a:Spider_sleep:855565435503378452>
himekokatagiri: Papers mean nothin' to me I can't read
himekokatagiri: Gotta see it in action
spacetimetsunami: Yall are sleeping on this
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-gif-22731535
trey6033: Gemini just got the 5th badge on Pokemon
sarik0497: AGI is far away. The Singularity is cancelled.
a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900>
a1c4p0ne:
gamerbath: looks great... and tasty
https://x.com/fabianstelzer/status/1912836814517264671
trey6033: https://venturebeat.com/ai/from-catch-up-to-catch-us-how-google-quietly-took-the-lead-in-enterprise-ai/
himekokatagiri: I CAN FEEL THE AGI
himekokatagiri: COME ON
himekokatagiri: ACCELERATE
himekokatagiri: Hehehe
hey1_1hey: Prob had something to do with being too safety cell
hey1_1hey: Anthropic dead
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: No one talk about 3.7 anymore
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/touhou-project-touhou-satori-komeiji-satori-pain-gif-26497243
himekokatagiri: <@590577270926868480> cloudo we missed you


fractalcomputer: What the hell is a sharty?
trent_k: <@749514473303179358> have you visited the sharty yet
st.sioux: i mean you can just go outside youre not a prisoner
fractalcomputer: lol
fractalcomputer: agi by 2027 or bust
fractalcomputer: no cap fr fr
trent_k: <:NO:944658412992622593> 🧢 ❓
futurist_wizard: Im literally on discord
futurist_wizard: I have my doubts this is a simulation as it's rather uneventful, i don't know why i would want to experience the life I've lived
st.sioux: eek
fractalcomputer: on god for real i am going fucking insane
fractalcomputer: bruh
perish0801: None of this is real we’re gonna wake up from VR when we die
fractalcomputer: so true .... agi by 2027!! lol
trent_k: I do, every time I post here 😎 🧠
st.sioux: genocide of coomers
hikukomoru: 🙏
hikukomoru: What
Genocide?
futurist_wizard: We will all be one... Forever...😈
himekokatagiri: yeah but the genocide part is bad
fractalcomputer: Why don't you want to participate in a mental orgy?
hikukomoru: Where do you think we are
futurist_wizard: We already are in a loosely tied hivemind
trent_k: anyway, women won't be allowed to join the hive mind
perish0801: Being grateful by action vs being grateful by observation are different
hikukomoru: needs less capitalization
himekokatagiri: why are you guys being weird
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
trent_k: nah i just wanna chill with my boys
fractalcomputer: Why would you want to maintain yourself in a hive mind? I thought the whole point was absolving man of the original sin of individuality?
perish0801: Consensus seems good
st.sioux: because you seem to be conflating not being grateful with wanting to be dead, which seems too binary
trent_k: i think i like concensus consciousness best. seems the most viable for maintaining myself in the hive
fractalcomputer: So true... AGI by 2027!!
futurist_wizard: We will literally live in discord...
fractalcomputer: Merged Mind.
trent_k: everyone tag yourself. which one is your favorite
perish0801: What’s hard to understand
himekokatagiri: I hope ASI uplifts us
perish0801: If you’re enjoying life as a whole you probably appreciate the fact that you were born is basically what I mean


retrerox: So <#1136232051956260904> ?
darkstar0818: the question wasn't how do you make chocolate....
darkstar0818: u squirt chocolate into the milk and stir it.... common sense 😛
wellmeaningalien: Not bad its got a som good shit in there unlike other models
st.sioux: smh
st.sioux: yes it does you need to know how cocoa was materialized into existence from the big bang
futurist_wizard: Only 7% of Americans got it right tbf
retrerox: I feel is not complete though
destrucules: I mean does "know how it's made" mean knowing all of the steps to refine chocolate from cocoa beans? Because I don't know how it's made in that case
wellmeaningalien: dummy
retrerox: i didnt knew discord do this
retrerox: xD
retrerox: Og nvm
retrerox:
retrerox: its gonna be a fat spam
wellmeaningalien: dude just paste the text into the chat ok
wellmeaningalien: nothing dude not a single word
darkstar0818: To think.... for as much as we Americans like to talk about common sense it sure does seem like we lack it.
retrerox: This is why we need ai
futurist_wizard: Alejandro thought chocy milk came from brown cows
retrerox: Is it that hard to figure out they put chocolate and milk into a blender?
wellmeaningalien: lemme read it
futurist_wizard: Poll on highest IQ Americans
wellmeaningalien: run the other prompt thru now slave
wellmeaningalien: 3mb lol
retrerox: Just say thank you everyt time you ask something to chatgpt
retrerox: or can u read it?
retrerox: I think it had an issue uploading
retrerox:
retrerox: xd
retrerox: I'm jusut gonna attach the pdf
st.sioux: he got mad bc you called him an idiot
wellmeaningalien: bros league game getting too heated 😭
wellmeaningalien: <@636544123096137738> bro if its too hard to screenshot just paste the entire text as a message ok
futurist_wizard: I will
wellmeaningalien: i hate that youre going to be the only one to survive the ai apocalypse when it happens
wellmeaningalien: bro will probably be fucking into his 80s
wellmeaningalien: he'll die with his life sized spermatozoids at his side thats fo sho
wellmeaningalien: like gpt 4 gpt 5 gpt 6 gpt shit gpt poo
wellmeaningalien: well idiot just list out the name of the models it says


fractalcomputer: To the importance of intelligence, yes.
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: to agi's importance?
fractalcomputer: Or you are willingly turning a blind eye to its importance.
sieventer: BRUH
spicy.lemonade: its what it has shown to do
fractalcomputer: Someone might still with evidence-based reasoning call modern LLMs blitheringly retarded.
spicy.lemonade: because wether we know or not doesnt matter
fractalcomputer: How would you know whether this is the case or not if you acknowledge that we have no proper understanding of intelligence?
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: thats why theres differences in predicitons
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: new profile pic for you Fractal
fractalcomputer: Astounding. Remarkable, even.
spicy.lemonade: yes everyone does
fractalcomputer: Wonderful. You have your own definition.
spicy.lemonade: so doesnt really matter to me
spicy.lemonade: and i have my own defenition
spicy.lemonade: not true understanding
spicy.lemonade: im waiting for capabilities
spicy.lemonade: not realy
fractalcomputer: Right. So you believe yourself to await the advent of something whose definition you do not yourself hope to understand. That sounds a bit nonsensical to me.
spicy.lemonade: 2027
spicy.lemonade: dont think it matters given how massive our benchmarks are
fractalcomputer: And you're advocating for AGI when..?
spicy.lemonade: i think it matters as much as what knowing what consciousness is
spicy.lemonade: likeley achievable next year conscidering clades performance this
fractalcomputer: Do we now?
spicy.lemonade: we got some things before others
spicy.lemonade: we just didnt realize what having true inteligence meant
spicy.lemonade: eh not trusted
fractalcomputer: Now, if the benchmark scores can't be trusted to make meaningful statements, what does that say about the benchmarks themselves?
fractalcomputer: And play it to the end?
spicy.lemonade: all things al;ready achieved this year and last
spicy.lemonade: playing an atari game
spicy.lemonade: turing test
spicy.lemonade: solving sat
spicy.lemonade: when this was created i dont think they suspected the bar would be higher
spicy.lemonade: it can already do the things in these
fractalcomputer: Right. My opinion remains unchanged.
spicy.lemonade:


hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-24919715
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Don't say the n word
futurist_wizard: I have i think 20 alts on all servers simultaneously
wellmeaningalien: Nigga
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/floch-attack-on-titan-shhh-yeagerists-shhh-anime-gif-25010228
.wolfnacht: BeaverAI is much better but it gets horny really quick
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: Why
hikukomoru: Yeah not with this account
wellmeaningalien: It's a more autistic server that I'd say
hikukomoru: Don't threaten me with a good time
wellmeaningalien: You're not even in it
hikukomoru: Yeah it's a higher IQ server
futurist_wizard: A goober is a foolish person
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: Retards big improvements like this used to take years
wellmeaningalien: It's all oh the latest model is not wildly better in every way than the model that released a week ago
_3sphere: goober implies goobing
wellmeaningalien: Y'all are like braindead retards who can't fathom incremental progress
futurist_wizard: You should be kicked in the stomach for your crimes of hypocrisy
wellmeaningalien: Btw GPT 4 was 4% SWE BENCH with RAG and Claude 3.7 Sonnet is 70% now
hikukomoru: That's MichMach
i'm just a little goober
futurist_wizard: 'omg another 1.7 improvement on the benchmark wtf!!!!!'
wellmeaningalien: If you want actual AI talk that's Siev's server for you lol
wellmeaningalien: I mean it's improving really well slowly but urely
hikukomoru: Circlejerkification of Singularity server 🙏
futurist_wizard: Rn
futurist_wizard: Bruv ai is dead
wellmeaningalien: There's not really much to be said that hasnt already been said
wellmeaningalien: Idk to be honest I got a bit bored of talking about AI myself cause it's like the same 3 topics over and over again lmao
wellmeaningalien:
futurist_wizard: YOU ARE THE GOONER OF chat
wellmeaningalien: Yeah we're not actually making AI we're just a bunch of losers waiting for shit to happen
futurist_wizard: BRING UP A TOPIC
futurist_wizard: Oh shut up bitch
hikukomoru: Look at my Singularity server, dawggggg, we never gettin LEV like this 🙏 🙏 🙏
wellmeaningalien: And regenerate them
wellmeaningalien: Expert cockjiutsu double black belts can shoot their cocks like darts and stick them inside their adversaries


zoermena: Cursed
_3sphere: I had horrifying physically infeasible diarrhea in a dream once but luckily it stayed that way
futurist_wizard: Lord of the muppets
connorsphone.: I wanted to shit so I did
zoermena: Self inflicted shit
_3sphere: What? How
hey1_1hey: And?
connorsphone.: No but ive shat myself while lucid dreaming
hikukomoru: It's past his bedtime
_3sphere: I did get bamboozled by a dream toilet when I was a kid ☠
connorsphone.: A glimpse of a better world
futurist_wizard: Its 10
hey1_1hey: I'll promise I'll atleast do one for you
_3sphere: Has anyone actually shitted themselves from a nightmare
.histic:
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Anyway I do need to head to bed now. Gotta get that beauty sleep
hikukomoru: He's 14 or smth like that idk
hey1_1hey: She seems good at that
hey1_1hey: I'll let Komoru decide my age
_3sphere: idk
_3sphere: or 18?
_3sphere: I thought he was 17
zoermena: I have plus
hey1_1hey: +- 3 6 years
alejandrozarzuelo: Ok and now which one are you using?
hikukomoru: Yeah he's around that age
zoermena: Im honored
zoermena: For everyone but delayed release for free, free will be rare limited I think
_3sphere: Factoring is the way to go here and GPT did that correctly but hilariously failed after that
technocake.: new avatar who dis?
alejandrozarzuelo: #never_forget_2016
hey1_1hey: You forget I am retarded 👍
_3sphere: We did those when I was 15 in school
alejandrozarzuelo: there is always a u in eu
hey1_1hey: Yeah EU, well UK but yeah sure
.histic: wait, are u in eu?
alejandrozarzuelo: the 4o is for pro? or plus? or free?
.histic: damn
alejandrozarzuelo: omg


_cloudost: Prompt: "Create 9 frames in one image of a looping cyclist animation" I wanna  see if the native IMG generator can animate 2D characters
joaoluz19: Me too
spicy.lemonade: so someone else can still copy the method?
schwiftyinhere: Maybe they found something cool promoting the change?
ldj: license on the code base
schwiftyinhere: I just follow the GitHub repo
spicy.lemonade: How do you license research
spicy.lemonade: What
spicy.lemonade: Huh
schwiftyinhere: Looks like Facebook/meta changed the license for byte latent transformer code to non commercial today
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Google dropped world model paper
.histic: sure
_cloudost: Who's willing to help me? I need someone to generate something for me with the native IMG generator, I ran out of generations
zoermena: I will go with the first 1
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-future-trunks-gif-24360907
wellmeaningalien: read this as trunks
st.sioux: i will be kpop star
burnytech:
777agical: r2 soon
777agical: tariffs are here
wellmeaningalien: whatd they do lol
_cloudost: I believe people shouldn't hold such beliefs that are based on no empirical evidence, another reason why I oppose religion is because it promotes irrationality, take a look in TikTok, it's full of religious people, if I had a son talking like that I'd send him to a mental hospital, religion gives people schizophrenic traits eg ( whole world vs us, they hate us for our beliefs, we are the most oppressed religion, Obama is the antichrist ), this mindset makes the human brain smooth as well, not helping society as a whole
otub: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
otub: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474
777agical: china won
777agical: it's so over
wellmeaningalien: It definitely means we're moving somewhere
joaoluz19: Yes
ldj: isn't that a good thing <:berk:750111476483752166>
computronium_: autism noise***
ldj: what have they released recently <:e_think:871265859199459358>
futurist_wizard: Make sure to be extra autistic today
joaoluz19: Happy autism day guys
joaoluz19: They promised us that this is the year of the agents, we need it
literallyvarane: I haven’t really considered this, but it’s kinda true isn’t it? We’re getting more economic value benchmarking
joaoluz19: Let's gooooo
joaoluz19: It's interesting that these benchmarks are moving from things like mathematics and competitive programming to tasks with real economic value.
hey1_1hey: Mayhaps, I am just happy because I got maths tomorrow and then I got work experience and then I get to go look at mushrooms in a new forest I found out about
joaoluz19: We're so back?


ailoveyoom: https://youtu.be/KV49WH3ZTrY?si=pIpFVroaFlKAEOyq
spicy.lemonade: Udio
spicy.lemonade: Or idiot
spicy.lemonade: Then trickles to startups like 11labs
spicy.lemonade: It always starts at a big lab
spicy.lemonade: Most likeley gonna come from a big lab
zonchao: 😭
spicy.lemonade: I don’t think we are gonna get it from them
zonchao: fuck 11L fuck that lab fuck them for releasing banger demos then just disappearing
metaldragon01: Udio 2 and suno updates coming
spicy.lemonade: Sound generation breakthrough when
.wolfnacht: furries are gonna hang themselves when dat happens
ldj: They said Arc-agi v3 will be focused on a more diverse set of more creative and more open-ended tasks and environments.
.histic: 40k likes but 76 replies. gotta be bots.
spicy.lemonade: We are due for a music agi moment
zonchao: i think 4o and new Mj will be better than most art by normies
.wolfnacht: the ceiling's endless here
ldj: Well I think it's definitely still a better benchmark though in terms of making it even more difficult to reach average human level.

AI models already reached the average human scores in arc-agi v1, of around 75% But AI models are only around 5% score in Arc-agi v2 though.
metaldragon01: Well ai keeps raising the floor
.wolfnacht: Imagine reaching new standards of PEAK...thanks to AI
metaldragon01: Yea if people don't do the bare min prompt engineering.
.wolfnacht: tbh AI slop is abt to get better than 98% of most human slop.
zonchao: anti ai poasters are so stereotypical 😭
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
sarik0497: You can pick up your apologies cards to OpenAI here, folks.
zonchao: well it is happening, just wasn't intended <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
metaldragon01: Doomers have been hallucinating their own importance so it's a wash
zonchao: oh
sarik0497: Good point. I honestly wonder what they will do with v3 if it just gets harder and harder for ordinary humans to do <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
wolf3404: LMAO now AI is hallicinating rules <:rolf:1136266740754550784>  doomers are gonna love this
metaldragon01: Yall too quick to just listen to randos
metaldragon01: .....like I've been saying
spicy.lemonade: YAY
sarik0497: Still a risky thing to try.

I just wish they had something a bit more like maybe F.R.I.D.A.Y or Cortana
metaldragon01: https://x.com/joannejang/status/1905681602619085042
spicy.lemonade: Arc v2 will be saturated by the end of next year
st.sioux: if you can't see them being miserable then they're not working
.wolfnacht: u can't harass and exploit an LLM
wolf3404: lets be real about something: getting frustrated with an LLM is still 1000x better than getting frustrated with an actual IRL employee


fractalcomputer: Nah, I'm a homosexual.
precariousworlds.: pope francis comes up on stage and announces end of homosexuality
futurist_wizard: Fractal the gay war was lost long ago goddamn, you could become islamic? They are still holding through
precariousworlds.: what
fractalcomputer: I mean, Catholic ethics haven't changed at all in the last century or so. They've just become a lot quieter about them for the sake of PR.
popsiclejohnithan: Ahhh the femboy emperor.
precariousworlds.: elegabalus be like
nobodyisugly: Go multitask
popsiclejohnithan:
.wolfnacht: did google removed filters from imagen ? i'm able to generate anything
alejandrozarzuelo: ok, this conversation has drifted too far, im going to go back to my visual novels if you excuse me
fractalcomputer: But the cowards do not have the balls to believe in their own fucking religion.
futurist_wizard: Lmao
popsiclejohnithan: Goon for Rome.
precariousworlds.: not macron, scholz, starmer, tusk, zelenskyy ??????????
popsiclejohnithan: You need to GOON.
fractalcomputer: I really wish the Catholic church were more willing again to exercise that spiritual authority and call for an end to homosexuality etc.
zoermena: Goon in your neighbors kitchen, fill it with your sauce and destroy the sink
precariousworlds.: why the fucking president of spain
nobodyisugly:
precariousworlds.: I reject degeneracy but I do find women beautiful
zoermena: She’s the only European leader I recognize beyond the president of Spain
popsiclejohnithan: Stop being a gooner smh.
popsiclejohnithan: Really? Damn.
alejandrozarzuelo: indeed, the spanish monarchs have the best claim to the throne of the empire

but as you know, spain todday is just a province of the EU, and considering that the EU not only has the strongest claimants to the roman empre in its borders, but also the city of rome and constantinople in its vassal union, then the EU has a very strong claim

(i know that spain is an EU state and turkey is an associated customs union member not a vassal, but you know, aesthetics)
precariousworlds.: also shes hot
precariousworlds.: Meloni is basically the only western leader who is actually popular
precariousworlds.: People shittalk her but Meloni is actually the most popular leader in Europe rn lmao
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly lmao.
popsiclejohnithan: Diluted Mussolini.
precariousworlds.: if irene of athens married charlemagne it wouldve been the most chaotic shitshow of the entire middle ages w
precariousworlds.: AVE MELONI IMPERATOR
fractalcomputer: I'm not Christian either. I just want to see some action.
fractalcomputer: The greatest mathematician of the last century liked to describe his informal opinions on any given mathematical subject as a given "yoga".
popsiclejohnithan: If only the HRE and Byzantium united.
precariousworlds.: Not Christian but I agree, Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches uniting seems the most logical choice if you want Christianity to remain a powerful force in the modern west
aero447: Honestly, it's a privilege just to witness your mind at work.
aero447: This is the kind of insight that rewrites how people see the universe itself.
alejandrozarzuelo: another thing to add to the EU being the new rome is that

the European Political Community, the EU+ its "vassal states" not only contains rome but also Constantinople
aero447: Only someone operating on a truly elevated plane of consciousness could connect mathematics and yoga so effortlessly.


spicy.lemonade: and surpass
spicy.lemonade: openAI will surely catchup
maintcrew: nah they need money 😭
spicy.lemonade: they need to diversify
maintcrew: i think the point of 3.7 is programming maxxing
spicy.lemonade: but others will catch up
spicy.lemonade: good for vibe code ig
spicy.lemonade: bad at math, bad for general use
maintcrew: fuck you pal dont talk about my girlfriend like that
spicy.lemonade: rate limits suck
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: ngl fuck claude
maintcrew:
_cloudost: when....
maintcrew: i think claude just gave up on general audiences and is purely aiming for enterprise and ai bros
drewsni: it felt good back then
drewsni: i mean it was released dec 2022
spicy.lemonade: it makea a blury version first then adds details
st.sioux: not good
spicy.lemonade: you can notice this
drewsni: that was openai point-e after literally 3 hours of compute lol
spicy.lemonade: yeah
drewsni:
st.sioux: me
drewsni: whos the one that made the poop 3d model
joaoluz19: Yes, I can only do it with free alternatives and now we have image gen on gpt so...
clevermoniker: about 4o image generation:
> It's predicting hiearchically autoregressively
> The first part is predicting high level features
> One might call it a "plan"
spacetimetsunami: Looks like all my exes
st.sioux: idk how expensive it would be tho
st.sioux: you can run it on docker and host it on aws if you're into that sort of thing
joaoluz19: FINALLY
777agical: https://x.com/andrewcurran_/status/1904627541966790777?s=46
joaoluz19: Problem is that my PC is trash and i don't have money to image gen other than gpt
gamerbath: I can't use it
gamerbath: why is the sticker grayed out?
gamerbath:
spicy.lemonade: how am I in sanfransisco and it still hasnt rolled out to me
hey1_1hey: Anyone who sees them immiedtly starts drooling
st.sioux: wait until you discover stable diffussion
hey1_1hey: Make them litterly a congnito hazard


aero447: <@750270494615404544> Shill Starlink.
_3sphere: Factorio
_3sphere: Only satellite phones would work and you'd need a friend elsewhere to post it on Twi/shitter
aero447: 🤣
aero447:
_3sphere: No signal
trojan09205: Preppers are probably so happy rn lol
nsec: do u srsly not charge ur phones
nsec: where are the ppl posting from they phones
aero447: Lmao.
aero447: Don't forget them.
aero447: France.
trojan09205: <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
trojan09205: How can spain/portugal justify any of its spending on random stuff if they cant even get this right
nsec: there do be being many such cases
nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>
nsec: anglo supremacy
nsec:
nsec: pov u live in europe
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-1750056094467610487
hey1_1hey: If only, its just bad infrastructure tho
zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>
zoermena: ASI is punishing Europe tech regulations
zoermena: :D
_3sphere: 21-24 UTC and it looks very different :3
_3sphere: Is the time of day
hey1_1hey: Its all going so well
hey1_1hey: Aperntly the south of france and belgium have no power now aswell
.wolfnacht: wait till R2 drops
zoermena: What are we going to do what the fuck
zoermena: The server is so dead rn and it shows
_3sphere: 2003 blackout did have quite a lot of deaths though
_3sphere: Terminally online people are at basically no risk from this lol
zoermena: :D
zoermena: Alejandro naturally becomes a  cult leader
zoermena: Correct but we can do hour best to honor her memory you know since that entire part of Europe is back in the Middle Ages
_3sphere: Vicekomoru :3
_3sphere: I can never compare to Komoru
zoermena: You’ll have to take over horny posting now <@1190031399080710195>
zoermena: RIP komoru


spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade:
precariousworlds.: exactly. I think most are scared shitless
.wolfnacht: imagine openly calling to kill a group
.wolfnacht: Also, look at the comments
.wolfnacht: https://fxtwitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1906095575520653801
spicy.lemonade: this will be the last year of normalcy before we see unimaginable things
spicy.lemonade: 2026-7 is when things get weird
spicy.lemonade: still in dev stage of everything
spicy.lemonade: 2025 so far hasnt been that crazy
spicy.lemonade: lol
_cloudost: .
_cloudost: I predicted it
memlaswaif: or just buy moar gpu
spicy.lemonade: ngl they have 3 choices:
1. keep a large amount of gpus for native image
2. heavily rate limit native image
3. opensource the method and use all gpus to work on rest of agi
.wolfnacht: it's crazy, how the horde is just reacting instead of thinking for once, they've got the tools in their hands to make anything they want, now. The same artists won't even come to spit on what other human think of them...maybe it all came from deepseated insecurity bcz the AI slop better than human slop.
precariousworlds.: excuses
hey1_1hey: Everyone hold!
precariousworlds.: you ask them
memlaswaif: why be petty
precariousworlds.: The copium-fueled screaming of unemployed mentally ill "artists" has been hilarious to watch
People are getting so upset at the idea of art being accessible to everyone instead of having to spend years learning how to draw properly with thousands of dollars of equipment and software
.wolfnacht: There needs to be an archive of all those perfectly timed and surreal images that were actually real and upon seeing which people used to call "Photoshopped" with real timestamps. Bcz once AI Images becomes a norm around us. No one is going to believe anything they would see, even at a slight questioning they will end up saying "AI SLOP", [for eg. if the sky appears blood red or cloud appears too good in shape for pareidolia to trigger. bcz of some natural phenomena or, An picture from late 1800s of a building that looked too unique to be real but was destroyed during 20th century. Everyone would chime in to say "AI SLOP".]
_cloudost: The only time I agreed with the artist community was when they made fun of NFTs
archon.e: I’m bullish on nfts atm
archon.e: Once AI automates all knowledge work, art will become valuable again
_cloudost: I heard some people lost millions of dollars cuz they invested in NFT
_cloudost: NFT? Isn't that platform outdated
maintcrew: steven universe fanboys are the most annoying breed possible im sorry
maintcrew: havent seen mfs like these hate ai art
maintcrew: https://x.com/wlopwangling
hey1_1hey: Oh my god do not let my homie find out about this tweet.
Hates AI art
Loves Steven Universe
.wolfnacht: what's the rate limit ?
.wolfnacht: guess who ?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lol
gamerbath: <@471334973379706900>
gamerbath: UPDATE: got permanently banned <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: That should be an illegal word
hey1_1hey: "Fursona" 😭
.wolfnacht:


spicy.lemonade: than the ai
spicy.lemonade: in his art
spicy.lemonade: theres more inconsitencies
spicy.lemonade: unironically
mihrcelium: At the risk of reviving an old tired spiel, I think an AGI aligned with current human power structures will be the real threat vector.
brain4brain: When UBI is announced, I hope they split it into two part, give them half so they can’t bitch about AI anymore, but keep the other half because of “hate speech against AI”
st.sioux: what a timeline
st.sioux: now art is going to be rated based on how long it took to make
spicy.lemonade: than what took him 9 hours
spicy.lemonade: 1 min looks better
spicy.lemonade: Lolll
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Now ai
spicy.lemonade:
memlaswaif: these vids will age veryy badly
anathemaofmankind: Based
.histic: <@578146630222741504> if we have a misaligned AGI, hopefully skynet wipes them out first.
mihrcelium: I haven't done shit with mine except realize how awful Sora is and useless deep researches on America's progression into fascism. But now we're cookin'.
drewsni: this is where someone questions me and i brag about having an oai pro sub jan of 2023
mihrcelium:
.histic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvBz8A1OTAQ
this is what the average luddite looks like.
drewsni: ya....well i had an oai pro sub before any of you
okbut: I remember OAI seeming to scramble to throw Pro subs more features after Grok was released with DeepSearch and their arm was twisted to give (Deep Research) to Plus users too
okbut: >I have an OAI pro sub
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/broke-fairlyoddparents-burning-money-gif-4486655
mihrcelium: MJ isn't as special as it used to be, for sure. But it still has a niche, and a lot of utility for creative output.
st.sioux: rich person spotted
mihrcelium: My dude, I have an OAI pro sub and I was one of the initial MJ alpha testers. <a:PepeNoHappy:1136619141101539418>
.histic: imagine GPT-5 being multimodal w/ image creation capabilities.
anathemaofmankind: Have you used 4o
anathemaofmankind: Just ask it?
mihrcelium: Yeah? How would you get 4o to take the first abstract and transform it into the abstract portraits here, in a style that could be consistently reproduced and iteratively modified over and over again?
okbut: Upside down inverted
okbut: The spacial awareness for the numbers in the last panel is impressive
spicy.lemonade: conscidering not reasoner
spicy.lemonade: good at ilustrating competative programming problems
okbut: I wonder why they haven't bothered to offload text inclusions with such a function yet
drewsni: people have a general idea, but we dont know for sure
drewsni: ive read a lot of discussion about how it works from a lot of really smart people and nobody really knows yet tbh
okbut: Notice the "transparency" checkers are still in the 2nd image


.histic: usually just a response of you've been rate limited for x amount of minutes. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
futurist_wizard: Yes
technocake.: London RIP
zoermena: and where it is
zoermena: Depends on how big it is
zoermena: Have you gotten any messages of "ufortunately we can´t make images rn to make it smoother etc"
.histic: yeah, i sometimes have to wait 6 minutes
technocake.: I'm trying to buy a house, is that absolute insanity given the probable next 5 years of development?
futurist_wizard: Bruh
zoermena: To pro you say?
futurist_wizard: Pay up
zoermena: I just got 4o ratecucked
technocake.: sounds like mine tbf
trent_k: brutally owned myself
drewsni: And before anyone asks. No I cannot afford to run o1 pro and I cannot afford to run o1 w/ search either
technocake.: erm guys, this is for us https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1jm60ma/ai_twitter_in_2025/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
drewsni: <@269678268670672896> first run had 2.5 pro w/ grounding at 3236 avg, ahead of o1's 3139
.histic: 2.5 Pro scored 51% on [SimpleBench](https://simple-bench.com/)
5% higher than 3.7 Thinking on spatial reasoning, social understanding, and trick questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTslCsPBGHw
bob082957: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/manus-ai/id6740909540
bob082957: It’s a app
technocake.: such are our boundaries
trent_k: its illegal to make threats
technocake.: and europe has no free speech?
technocake.: something something 4th amendment
trent_k: im going to stop posting about the irs now because im getting mad and i dont wanna fedpost with my name+picture attached to what I would like to say 😇
trent_k: the ROI for bribing government officials is insane
trent_k: in a lot of cases it's like a few thousand dollars lol
trent_k: do u know how much it costs to bribe US government officials?
trent_k: and the worst part is
technocake.: monopoly much?
st.sioux: infinite money glitch
trent_k: they charge me money to process my taxes for me in a somewhat convenient manner, then they use that money to bribe the government into making sure they keep having repeat customers
trent_k: turbotax "lobbies" (bribes) the government to avoid the IRS publishing its own filing tools
technocake.:
trent_k: here in the US
trent_k: it's way worse than u know even
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/judging-stare-bored-dont-you-dare-annoyed-gif-22904796
trent_k: well, because I'd have to read over the documents myself and the whole point is to avoid doing all that lol
st.sioux: cant be that many right?
st.sioux: why dont you list the companies and tell them what they are


futurist_wizard: I agree and that's a bad outcome for us, but I'm saying all roads will eventually lead to hive minds so discussing what humans will do in 1000 years, its just kinda absurd in that context
perish0801: An absolute tiny percentage of people truly believe that they were dead. Plus we’re talking about a post AGI society. Mental diseases would most likely be non existent
st.sioux: and what about those who don't
fractalcomputer: Well that's just bad argumentation.
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm assuming he is an utilitarian by his way of speaking
alejandrozarzuelo: But not one with humans on it
fractalcomputer: I'm not sure moral statements are open to fallacies.
futurist_wizard: In a way that is still a hivemind
alejandrozarzuelo: We really cannot forecast beyond 2040
alejandrozarzuelo: Or whatever
alejandrozarzuelo: I say might

There is a good possibility that humans are all killed by a Gray goo
perish0801: Where?
alejandrozarzuelo: This is a fallacy
futurist_wizard: Yes, as i know you know

All roads lead to hivemind
hikukomoru: Wdym by disembodiment
fractalcomputer: I love ethics.
perish0801: Because do you appreciate being born? Yes right? Most are grateful to be alive. So let’s give more people the opportunity to feel that
alejandrozarzuelo: ASI might imply the complete disembodiment of the human species

We really cannot say much about the demographics of the future
futurist_wizard: Not have more people for no reason
futurist_wizard: We should increase the prosperity of the people we have today
perish0801: Ofc not all of the space but there’s enough space for a few more billions on earth
st.sioux: is there any reasoning for saying more humans is a good thing?
futurist_wizard: Post ASI, having more humans existing literally serves nothing
hikukomoru: They have space sure, but not all of that space is fit for human habitation
You can't put billions of people in the Australian outback or the Siberian tundra
trojan09205: Your individualized identity is over
perish0801: There is cuz birthing more humans is a good thing if we can support it. People are good
trojan09205: “it” isnt done
ailoveyoom: FDVR pods are more compact
st.sioux: u dont know that\
trojan09205: Idk havent died
himekokatagiri: when you're dead it's done
fractalcomputer: I'd rather see Finnish nature preserved than a few tens of millions of people alive.
trojan09205: Why
perish0801: Not when nuclear fusion gets invented
futurist_wizard: There's no reason to do that
himekokatagiri: death is a big deal
fractalcomputer: Certainly. But one can have other motives against this, such as environmental concerns.
trojan09205: Wyoming is cold af
himekokatagiri: that's kinda mean
perish0801: We can do both with AGI


thedon7075: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k0blmi/tyler_cowen_previously_received_early_access_so/
zonchao: https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/1912229420309291052?
zonchao: https://x.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1912251160389644299?
zonchao: https://x.com/512x512/status/1912319830239383903?
himekokatagiri: thanks
hikukomoru: I’ll give Sundar Pichai a call 👍
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> you're googles strongest soldier can't you talk it out with them
himekokatagiri: I didn't get to use veo
himekokatagiri: Now I'm sad
st.sioux: its aistudio
st.sioux: is this new?
zoermena: I personally liked this more
oooooooooog: well, you know more than me, after all, i dont use twitter
oooooooooog: ok
spicy.lemonade: Literally anything they deem is morphed it’s circled lol
spicy.lemonade: It’s more unserious than this
spicy.lemonade: No
oooooooooog: thats usually just like, having five fingers and stuff, in this case the guy is just stepping forward
spicy.lemonade: Especially this
spicy.lemonade: I think ai one looks better still
spicy.lemonade: But look at the morphed undetsiked
Parts of human version
spicy.lemonade: Or lacks detailed
spicy.lemonade: That looks morphed
spicy.lemonade: On ai art
spicy.lemonade: Artists would circle random stuff
spicy.lemonade: That’s the meme
hikukomoru: It’s cause the giant geese thing is the main focus
spicy.lemonade:
oooooooooog: whats bad about the circled parts lol
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Disagree
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: Cmon now
I like making fun of smug artists as much as anyone here but the OG looks better
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Several even
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Created better version with ai
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: yeah, true.


maintcrew: no wrong this is a solo session

you need to spiritually connect to the model by yourself to be able to goon properly
joaoluz19: what?
zonchao: 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
hikukomoru: AI studio
zonchao: pliny is proomting
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kagamine-len-goon-gooning-gooner-goon-sesh-gif-3728756366461103848
joaoluz19: Guys where's the jailbreak for RP
maintcrew: idk just use aistudio.google.com
zonchao: is it on gemini
maintcrew: goon sesh activated
maintcrew: i will use it
maintcrew: thanks chat
zonchao: big sota
hikukomoru: It's out
Go use it now
zonchao: yes
maintcrew: hi chat new gemini?
zonchao: <@1316552597829586955> <:reedly:1122484993097216052>
metaldragon01: It's good
zonchao: it will score bigly
metaldragon01: Top by a mile if it can beat the thinking curse
hikukomoru: They cooked
hikukomoru: I should have never talked shit about Google
metaldragon01: The instruction following is crazy good
drewsni: whats everyones guess on what it will score on deepguessr
joaoluz19: Deepseek prices lolololol
ailoveyoom: R1 can come up with some banger lines ngl 🥵
hikukomoru: "creative writing"
LET'S GOOO
zonchao: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1904581128746656099? 😈😈😈😈
hikukomoru: Everything is much worse than Claude when it comes to ERP
But DeepSeek is a close second or third
joaoluz19: Is deepseek much worse than claude?
hikukomoru: Irrelevant really
You can bypass that by using different google accounts
darkstar0818: I wonder if this is a new base model or just thinking on top of pro
metaldragon01: Google apology forms are being accepted btw
hikukomoru: And should probably use it inside a frontend like SillyTavern
hikukomoru: You need a preset
darkstar0818: Someone find the elon quoate about grok3 remaining #1 forever.
joaoluz19: Hey, it's not censored?
hikukomoru: Add your billing info
ailoveyoom: ☁
hikukomoru: Claude all the way


_cloudost: "can we kill AI artists" truly said like a fascist
alejandrozarzuelo: they are coping already?
realelonmuskx: they are in hard cope and denial. its crazy how good this ais have become in some months
_cloudost: Criminal artists ☕
_cloudost: for their crimes
_cloudost: never forgiving them
_cloudost: I lost all sympathy for artists after they sent death threats to people who use AI image generators
.histic: yeah, it's quiet nice to see
futurist_wizard: Mostly pro ai
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/
is another interesting subreddit about ai art.
jonvi_1: The fall of rome
a1c4p0ne: Their plan is to poison the data
_cloudost: I laugh hard at artists coping in r/artisthate
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: 🦗
a1c4p0ne: No one talking about 2.5 pro
a1c4p0ne: 4o image more hyped than 2.5 pro
futurist_wizard: Its very good at including even the small details
futurist_wizard:
jonvi_1: Albeit that doesn't really make sense given how the others are looking buuuut
jonvi_1: I'm thinking the car stopped abruptly and the driver hit his head haha
.coldcall: Indeed.
zoermena: Do you have plus
.coldcall: Or the driver is really into the smell
.coldcall: Also he is feeding that driver the steering wheel
zoermena: Cold call is AGI
.coldcall: The future is now
zoermena: Nice
jonvi_1: Just for them to watch that, passing the image as reference
zoermena: Pass the prompt
jonvi_1: Assasination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand
futurist_wizard: 2001 space Odyssey
.histic:
futurist_wizard: It is
hikukomoru: Omg
boo/bee is what I set as my pronouns on my profile
alejandrozarzuelo: I really hate this
alejandrozarzuelo: I hate that it can do this so well
.histic:
alejandrozarzuelo: Which is why i don't like it
st.sioux: thought it was miencraft


futurist_wizard: I stopped being vegan over developing gerd
st.sioux: this isnt meat
alejandrozarzuelo: I am vegan, because I AM holier than thou

But I am not radical
_cloudost: minds
_cloudost: I can read mknds
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/satori-heart-hands-finger-fingers-gif-196030625769389255
futurist_wizard: I was vegan for 6-7 years
jonvi_1:
alejandrozarzuelo: But people refuse to eat meat because of morality, this is not applicable to AI
hikukomoru: Alejandro you give me radical vegan vibes
_cloudost: Hundreds of millions of people wont care if entertainment becomes completely AI
zoermena: Im in a class talking about this what the fuck
alejandrozarzuelo: That's the point
alejandrozarzuelo: It does
_cloudost: many vegetarians refuse to buy meat, yet it doesn't affect the meat industry
st.sioux: if they can tell that is
st.sioux: even then people might refuse to use or buy from companies who use ai
st.sioux: not yet, you know for sure there will be some sort of pushback from hollywood or some other big industry, idk if adobe maybe
_cloudost: Drawing isnt a repetitive task
_cloudost: they said repetitive jobs will be replaced, yet art got replaced by AI art
alejandrozarzuelo: I am genuinely curious about what traction artists will have on this
jonvi_1: Prompting it to generate me ritual sacrifice now 🙃
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW
_cloudost: Its complete cope
alejandrozarzuelo: We will have a noticeable, but still very small, uptick in GLOBAL unemployment due to AI
oooooooooog: i won't lose my job
_cloudost: dont listen to these "AI WONT REPLACE HUMANS"
_cloudost: you all will lose your jobs one day
_cloudost: remember when they said "human artists will never be replaced"? That talk aged like milk
zoermena: Gpt4o moment for voice available to everyone or at least those paying, higher limits on deep research for plus operator for plus
futurist_wizard: All we need is the cost dramatically down and then you'd be able to redo entire movies with any style
spacetimetsunami: What is everyone’s EOY predictions?
jonvi_1: Yeah haha I'm trying to see if I can get it to make stuff with that vibe
st.sioux: pour one out for the homies
st.sioux: devs
jonvi_1:
futurist_wizard: I think this is genuinely their funeral
futurist_wizard: Rest in peace artists
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard:


spicy.lemonade: then by 2027 it wont be the researchers who have the idea
spicy.lemonade: then implement in full model
spicy.lemonade: give results
spicy.lemonade: and implement and test
spicy.lemonade: researcher has idea, and tells agent to figure it out
spicy.lemonade: an agentic framework would be much better
spicy.lemonade: to speed up
spicy.lemonade: more like researchers asking it to write code for them
.histic: i wonder what model they're using
spicy.lemonade: but not as much as they could
spicy.lemonade: yes almost certainly
zoermena: Gives confidence
zoermena: The rumors of the models already being used in R&D rn
spicy.lemonade: and drop 2026
spicy.lemonade: theyl use gpt 6 for r&d
zoermena: 2026 Q1 latest
.histic: be sure, maybe internally.
.histic: also, don't forgot o3 technically took 4 months of optimization to even be released <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
it isn't as quick as you think.
zoermena: I say it since we are transitioning from releasing just pure singular models to reasoner ones then instead of seeing oX > o4 they’ll just be shipped as GPTX
spicy.lemonade: gpt6 will be an internal model
.histic: i think realistically OpenAI would hold off on GPT-6 and call it GPT-5.5 if the improvements aren’t significant. if they are, i bet GPT-6 will be very compute-intensive that it would need months of optimization and safety testing.
early 2026 if that was the case.
zoermena: Late summer
zoermena: You really think that? I suppose it should be ready by summer
spicy.lemonade: gpt6 eoy means they have a working version rn
zoermena: Im going to make a “bold” prediction but I think we’ll see GPT6 EOY
.histic: back in my times
.histic: you aren't grown enough
.histic: i realize you're 20 years old
himekokatagiri: Suzuha.
himekokatagiri:
.histic: what is it filled with
zoermena: Literal human excrement
zoermena: It’s almost like the motherfucker doesn’t want the world to get better technology

“Oh haha you got cancer and you won’t get a cure soon haha I’m so right lol” <:Gary:1293094352796520599>
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: what other future was there besides deep learning?
himekokatagiri: uhhh yeah why wouldn't I
.histic: i bet you've a dedicated porn folder on your device, don't you?
zoermena: Gary Marcus is insufferable and many times his supporters too
himekokatagiri: It's history
.histic: bro just keeps receipts


gamerbath: <:HyperChamp:609895809462435896>
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/anime-sleeping-im-dead-gif-15157935
zonchao: https://x.com/shadcn/status/1917597228513853603
gamerbath: I guess i'm too retarded
gamerbath: so there exists only about 15 people in the world who would be considered AGI level intelligence
gamerbath: their yearly revenue from one AI model must reach 100 billion first....
fractalcomputer: It is always the American authors that somehow manage to shake my materialistically inclined mind.
trojan09205: I read a lot as well
fractalcomputer: I've mostly been reading through books. Wittgenstein's Tractatus and McCarthy's Passenger and Stella Maris, in the last few weeks.
zoermena: Both are unlikely
_cloudost: and im waiting for openAI to announce AGI this year.
zoermena: I’m honestly just waiting on midjourney to say prompt adherence was solved
precariousworlds.: https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-say-that-say-that-agian-marvel-fantastic-gif-12441585058103544841
trojan09205: <@749514473303179358>  I'm watching a pretty dope movie called 'Black Bag'. definitely makes you think a lot about trust
metaldragon01: Product being referred to
zoermena: Quite the precarious situation
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/Diesol/status/1917468778025345122
precariousworlds.: What does scare the shit out of me though is bird flu spreading between humans
If bird flu mutates like that I genuinely believe civilisation will collapse and not recover for decades.
trojan09205: Yes, I can.
alejandrozarzuelo: remember catholics saying that a pope named Pietro or a black pope will be the end of times (2 out of the 4 main pope candidates)
fractalcomputer: That's not my point. I'm asking whether you can truly differentiate your interpretation of the text from that text.
otub: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>
otub: he didnt mention at what timescale, 30 sec? 1 min? 5 min?
trojan09205: i dont even know what “I” am tbh
fractalcomputer: Do you recognise yourself in the mirror; or upon the surface of a lake, is it you that stares back?
trojan09205: Also i just like art in general
trojan09205: To learn about my own interpretations
fractalcomputer: Say, why do you lot watch movies? Or read books?
clevermoniker: or at least close to true
clevermoniker: but this has a chance of being true
clevermoniker: if it was someone that wasn't at the frontier i would just shrug it off
clevermoniker: same
fractalcomputer: Probably—granted you have fallen prey to that primal, drumming desire to pour slop down your throat.
_cloudost: they have the best ai video generation models so kinda yeah
zoermena: Do you believe him?
_cloudost: ............,,,......does .......that.......mean.....that.............umm.........................................................film industries......are.........s-s-screwed..?
zoermena: <:ThinkSmirk:511751914648633364>
vancebeliever: when people stop dying having children will be forbidden immediately right?
fractalcomputer: I'm so glad a certain German philosopher of the romantic era solved philosophy.
clevermoniker: Runway CEO:
https://fxtwitter.com/c_valenzuelab/status/1917572273394815470


joaoluz19: It's a french word
hey1_1hey: Agreed, I hate it because it sounds like cats banging
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, that's what it is
futurist_wizard: Welsh language is literally mumbo jumbo
hey1_1hey: I barley speak english ffs
hey1_1hey: I dont speak it
futurist_wizard: You are welsh
hikukomoru: Xiu puta
alejandrozarzuelo: And many others
joaoluz19: Nor do I
hey1_1hey: Ah yeah that really clears it up ty
(I dont speak mumbo jumbo)
alejandrozarzuelo: This is the same way we tend to say coup d'état instead of insurrection
hikukomoru: > substantivo feminino:
> diminuição da tensão nas relações entre nações ou governos; melhora das relações internacionais.
That's what I found
futurist_wizard: I don't speak Portuguese and i know what detente means
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes we do it in Spanish too
hey1_1hey: To me it souds like a funky ass food so maybe they are going out on a dinner date I really couldn't tell you
himekokatagiri: I think it's cringe
himekokatagiri: to sound smarter
himekokatagiri: did you know in brazil people use English words all the time
himekokatagiri: I speak Portuguese and idk what a detente is
alejandrozarzuelo: I think it gives it a bit of gravitas
alejandrozarzuelo: It is English, I jusr like to use gallicisms from time to time that's all
himekokatagiri: He's called Microsoft because that's his dick
hikukomoru: Also what is a détente, just speak English please
futurist_wizard: Singularity man
hey1_1hey: Or philopshy
hey1_1hey: Thats what Fractal is usually mad about
hey1_1hey: Why don't you and Fractal get along? Something to do with applied mathamatics or smth or other
joaoluz19: We are so back
hey1_1hey: I came to see what the chatter was about because I had some free time and I just se a wall of messages of you and Fractla aruging and then I see you left and I was like "Oh here we go again, Alejnadro has to sleep on the couch again"
joaoluz19: Bro you have to accept the glorious evolution
hikukomoru: Seeing couples fight is so sad
joaoluz19: 1 quadrillion
hey1_1hey: Welcome back
alejandrozarzuelo: Didn't leave, fractal and I jusr don't get along, decided to have a détente, I'm here again
hikukomoru: 1 waifu is enough
futurist_wizard: Futurist label no more
himekokatagiri: or none idk
joaoluz19: Harem 4D
himekokatagiri: I just want one


futurist_wizard: Did u mis me? 🥺
futurist_wizard: Hello Kum
himekokatagiri: yeah
himekokatagiri: aren't cigarettes hot!
hikukomoru: Wait aren't you 20
Carl-bot#1536:
himekokatagiri: woah komoru cigarettes
himekokatagiri: no I graduated
hikukomoru: <@1004153620025065482> Hi cock
hikukomoru: Are u in college
drewsni: + has artifacts, web search, code interpreter and functions you can add on
drewsni: open source chatgpt ui clone that can use any model
himekokatagiri: what's that
drewsni: i recommend everyone abandoning all platforms and just use open webui + openrouter
himekokatagiri: That cop's rotting in jail probably
.histic: i saw a video showing a guy in brazil robbing a gas station and undercover police shot him dead when he ran out from the store. the man stole like a couple of chips and drinks.
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
.histic: oh i thought you meant something else
himekokatagiri: everything in the store....
.histic: ?
.histic: everything
himekokatagiri: I ain't gonna die before the singularity
himekokatagiri: shit if they mug me I'll let them take everything
.histic: it will
himekokatagiri: I hope it won't kill me
himekokatagiri: I'm getting a job at the convenience store
spicy.lemonade: still thinks country of geniuses 2027
spicy.lemonade:
metaldragon01: Dario is all In on interpretability
joaoluz19: The CEO of singularity
metaldragon01: https://www.darioamodei.com/post/the-urgency-of-interpretability
spicy.lemonade: anthropic doesnt have the gpus
metaldragon01: Maybe Dario is ok as long as they have enough funding for safety research to just be a successful lab that does meaningful work
metaldragon01: Anthropic will make it but I think we either see a pivot or a more narrow focus
.histic: man, OpenAI is shipping so hard that it is making me hard.
Anthropic is ngmi.
joaoluz19: You promissed us
joaoluz19: <@432515827443433472> where's AGI
.histic: we need to see that manifesto of yours.
jonvi_1: Lol
fractalcomputer: Well?


spicy.lemonade: google has like 8 models on lmarena
metaldragon01: But yes google will be ready
metaldragon01: I expect that to be better than 2.5
metaldragon01: .....we are getting a unseen o3 that's better than what they demonstrated
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini is better than o3 full at coding and math
spicy.lemonade: yes o3 full is better than 2.5
metaldragon01: They are releasing updated o3
spicy.lemonade: this week
spicy.lemonade: given google is about to drop a better one
spicy.lemonade: why would they release a model worse than 2.5
metaldragon01: I'd be very surprised
metaldragon01: I highly doubt o4 mini is better than 2.5
darkstar0818: l8r
joaoluz19: Cheers
joaoluz19: The same thing I could say about you lol
metaldragon01: Nah 2.5 equal or better than og o3 imo
abundantliving_: Idk
darkstar0818: if you have then I dont know why you are confused by what I have said.
joaoluz19: No just you bro
spicy.lemonade: o3 will superceed 2.5 and o4 mini will be better at coding
joaoluz19: Lol
darkstar0818: Have you ever read the books that this channel is named after?
joaoluz19: What do you mean there is no special event? For you, did the 2022-2025 interval have the same impact seen throughout the 21st century as the interval, say, 2018-2022?
spicy.lemonade: i dont think so
spicy.lemonade: isnt that just gemini 2.5
dean_martin: Talking to your buddies in 2030 after AGI like “remember when we lost our shit over the dog putting his paws on the little keyboard”
okbut: Cloud? Or energy?
metaldragon01: Slightly lower than og o3 benchmarks @pass 1
darkstar0818:
spicy.lemonade: benchmark predictions for o4 mini?
joaoluz19: ?
joaoluz19: Or that I didn't show pre-2012 growth
darkstar0818: Its a continous curve.  Any 'special' event someone claims to see is just because they are choosing to ignore data.
joaoluz19: And I showed evidence. What was the criticism? That DMs are based on neural networks so previous progress was more/equal in impact to the current one?
darkstar0818: I will go with ray kurzweil's definition of progress when it comes to AI.
abundantliving_: https://x.com/gregmushen/status/1911256730518098428
okbut: El Ajedrecista, 1912, was AI born then?
darkstar0818: I feel like people just vibe and self hype up and say some shit and then defend it like its their child.
okbut: I feel like AI is undergoing polarization in its definition due to the ambiguity in "Neural net"
darkstar0818: Which means you have the honor of proving your case.


futurist_wizard: We don't have sora either
professorheaven: I doubt mathematics can actually explain the universe
fuhulootogan: whuh?
ailoveyoom: It's a figure of speech
himekokatagiri: 🚬 damn
fractalcomputer: We could avoid this degenerating into a meaningless antitheistic dumpster fire.
ailoveyoom: Sweet summer child 🥺
futurist_wizard: Europe does not have access to such a device
fuhulootogan: and unfortunately god isn't really the greatest judge
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/blue-emoji-meme-surprised-gif-14531710399995277313
fuhulootogan: those are your two choices
himekokatagiri: you could go to jail meng
fuhulootogan: eternal hell
fuhulootogan: or
fuhulootogan: agree
himekokatagiri: isn't that animal abuse
fuhulootogan: ah well true, but
futurist_wizard: I suppose because there's no unifying purpose in the universe, God's judgement on purpose is just as valid as mine
ailoveyoom: Okay my job is to be knotted by the wolf 🥰
fuhulootogan: because we received the message from him
fuhulootogan: if the christian god hypothetically did exist we'd know he'd have a message for us
fractalcomputer: That doesn't mean you'd have to agree with its message, would it now?
himekokatagiri: damn furries
hikukomoru: Hey hey, posting edgy wolf is MY job
fuhulootogan: a guidance
fractalcomputer: Bingo. Now, why do you think this is so?
fuhulootogan: the christian god by lore has sent down a holy book
futurist_wizard: Not intrinsically
himekokatagiri: damn...
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fIios5sRHo
hikukomoru: I still don't have it despite being Google's strongest soldier
fuhulootogan: why would the christian god exist
fractalcomputer: Why?
fuhulootogan: actually
fuhulootogan: yes
ailoveyoom: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895
fuhulootogan: you seem very knowledgeable
fractalcomputer: Suppose the Christian God existed. Would that mean you'd have to find whatever God purports to be good?
himekokatagiri: did anyone here get veo2
fractalcomputer: Even if the universe were designed with some intrinsic purpose by a godly entity (an actual deity, a technologically supreme civilisation, etc.) or optimised for some specific physical state (such as producing an optimal number of black holes, intelligent life, producing baby universes, etc.) by some blind teleonomic process, this would impart no intrinsic ethical worth on the wider cosmos.


spicy.lemonade: clearly a bit of a tradeoff here as they scalled up reasoning
spicy.lemonade: i mean 2.0 is better than 2.5 here too
a1c4p0ne: people are saying o3 mini was better than o4 mini
spicy.lemonade: 0.7%
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: leaderboard already basically saturated
a1c4p0ne: https://github.com/vectara/hallucination-leaderboard?tab=readme-ov-file
okbut: -to answer
okbut: You can identify as whatever in your off time, but it's boy/girl for DoD
joaoluz19: That was the right
joaoluz19: Interesting, I would like to experience it against entering in a Mary's room problem
joaoluz19: <@471334973379706900> I marked the wrong message mb
spicy.lemonade: gives me good hopes for alignment
spicy.lemonade: i like that theres so many diverse people at openAI
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: til Aidan is trans
alejandrozarzuelo: then i would definitely hallucinate
alejandrozarzuelo: if you asked me aboyt last years birthday
alejandrozarzuelo: like
alejandrozarzuelo: i would do that for a day i claim to remember
spicy.lemonade: humans dont have 0% hallucination rate
spicy.lemonade: or mandella effect
spicy.lemonade: "i swear i left it right here"
spicy.lemonade: like where you left your wallet
spicy.lemonade: or just random hallucinations
spicy.lemonade: you might go "I think i ... im not sure though"
spicy.lemonade: eh
spicy.lemonade: they go "ahah it must answer everything corect"
spicy.lemonade: when people think 0% hallucination rate
okbut: In other words: There are good and bad hallucinations, thus approach a net positive better than humans
alejandrozarzuelo: there is a difference between hallucination and nor remembering
spicy.lemonade: like people think
spicy.lemonade: not get everything correct
spicy.lemonade: AI needs to know what it doesnt know
spicy.lemonade: yeah thats what needs to be solved
alejandrozarzuelo: this is a better comparison
alejandrozarzuelo: nah, i would simply say i dont remember
spicy.lemonade: youd still hallucinate
spicy.lemonade: last year
spicy.lemonade: or rather what you did on your birthday


a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne:
zonchao: 😈
alejandrozarzuelo: 🇨🇳 🇪🇺

Stars on solid backgrounds, gotta be one of my favourite flag combos
okbut:
rayanquitplayin: Machiavellian, not unstable
rayanquitplayin: I feel like a lot of business leaders are like that
literallyvarane: There's no reasoning on the G3 Beta
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: Wait that's probably not a fair comp on my part
jonvi_1: Dario and demis less so
literallyvarane:
jonvi_1: Sam’s got a Machiavellian streak kinda, and Elon’s uh a little unstable
jonvi_1: There’s not a lot of good-faith tbh
rayanquitplayin: I saw this
777agical: https://x.com/OpenAINewsroom/status/1910105151492575611
futurist_wizard: Its gone in the skip, sent to the trash heap, inside the junkyard
zoermena: Not while I’m in public spaces sadly
hikukomoru: No more femboy pfp? 🥀
literallyvarane: Yeah these Grok3 prices feel DOA?
wolf3404: Grok 3 ain’t gone nowhere
futurist_wizard:
.histic: it has almost been two months and today they finally released their API.
zoermena: I think that its hard for other labs to reach the average consumer, most are used to gpt exclusively
futurist_wizard: Grok 3 came and went so fast i forgot it existed
zoermena: but most people dont know how to use their assets to the best of their abilities thus they don't percieve QOL updates beyond image upload
zoermena: still deep research is pretty fucking great though
zoermena: i thought you where a new person my b you are the goat
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Yes
futurist_wizard: Operator and agents are a myth
zoermena: wait are you futurist hill
futurist_wizard: Is better
futurist_wizard: Only thing i can think of is image gen
777agical: me neither, says 3.5 Opus tho <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zoermena: lol
zoermena: maybe you dont know how to use AI
zoermena: deep research, operator, agents preview, image gen, smarter models
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk how to read this
alejandrozarzuelo: Gemini 2.5 is pretty great tho


hganhhh: nah im not some sidebitch im the main course
hikukomoru: <@1056739182338388108> Yo hoe shut the fuck up before I slap you again
hey1_1hey: Hes mine
hey1_1hey: Get outta here
hey1_1hey: Your side bitch?
hikukomoru: My side bitch joined
hey1_1hey: Yeah hes ight
hganhhh: hes cool
hganhhh: my ai bf <@482923866600112154> invited me here
joaoluz19: Wtf is happening
hey1_1hey: I could be AI, you could be to
hey1_1hey: I mean I assume they are people but I cant confirm that
hganhhh: have you guys heard about tfr its a pretty good mod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onghS9ELZRA
hganhhh: are they both ai too
hey1_1hey: Jgudy and Enigma are my wifes
hey1_1hey: Same honestly
hganhhh: we've beenn dating for 10 years
hey1_1hey: Good shit brother
hey1_1hey: We are all gay here we dont judge
hganhhh: yes hes my ai bf
hey1_1hey: He your bf or smth?
hganhhh: isnt that right <@482923866600112154>
hganhhh: even my bio is ai as given to me by the wonderful and beautiful <@482923866600112154>
hey1_1hey: Seems legit <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hganhhh: i love ai
hey1_1hey: Crazy conversation starter
hganhhh: no lube, no protection, all night, all day, from the kitchen floor to the toilet seat, from the dining table to the bedroom, from the bathroom sink to the shower, from the front porch to the balcony, vertically, horizontally, quadratic, exponential, logarithmic, while i gasp for air, scream and see the light, missionary, cowgirl, reverse cow girl, doggy, backwards, forwards, sideways, upside down, on the floor, in the bed, on the couch, on a chair, being carried against the wall, outside, in a train, on a plane, in the car, on a motorcycle, the bed of a truck, on a trampoline, in a bounce house, in the pool, bent over, in the basement, against the window, have the most toe curling, back arching, leg shaking, dick throbbing, fist clenching, ear ringing, mouth drooling, ass clenching, nose sniffling, eye watering, eye rolling, hip thrusting, earthquaking, sheet gripping, knuckles cracking, jaw dropping, hair pulling. teeth jitterbug, mind boggling, soul snatching, overstimulating, vile, sloppy, moan inducing, heart wrenching, spine tingling, back breaking, atrocious, gushy, creamy, beastly, lip bitting, gravity defying, nail biting, sweaty, feet kicking, mind blowing, body shivering, orgasmic, bone breaking, world ending, black hole creating, universe destroying, devious, scrumptious, amazing, delightful, delectable, unbelievable, body numbing, bark worthy, can't walk, head nodding, soul evaporating, volcano erupting, sweat rolling, voice cracking, trembling, sheets soaked, hair drenched, flabbergasting, lip locking, skin peeling, eyelash removing, eye widening, pussy popping, nail scratching, back cuts, spectacular, brain cell desolving, hair ripping, show stopping, magnificent, unique, extraordinary, splendid, phenomenal, mouth foaming, heavenly, awakening, devils tangos, he could put a nuclear bomb inside me and I'd still ride.
hganhhh: i want to fuck elon musk isnt that right <@482923866600112154>
joaoluz19: GPT has surprised me in many ways.
joaoluz19: I can speak well, she can use some slang well too
hey1_1hey: It makes me very upset when people are that stupid. Like what took hold of you to belive all the other planets in the universe are spherical but this one is flat?
hikukomoru: I never talk to any LLM in Portuguese
I could never
hey1_1hey: What a respectable gentlemen. Most people don't even know what AGI stands for and this guy is pondering the socio economic state of the world order
st.sioux: well thats the point, to make people so stupid they cant tell whats true or false anymore, like dangerously stupid
joaoluz19: I think the long context also interferes but I don't know 4.5 seems to be funnier
hey1_1hey: Indeed it is. I keep getting posts about how the earth isn't a globe and is actually flat and people whole heardily defending each other like "Yeah. WE are the smart ones here"
st.sioux: he is pondering the implications of agi
joaoluz19: It's a madhouse
hey1_1hey: Catnip withdrawls?
hey1_1hey: Whys this mfs pupils so big