sieventer: Someday... post-scarcity ASI economy, society will allow you do that, cities will live 24/7, the concept of day/night won't make sense anymore
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: it solved with pure vision
spicy.lemonade: https://chatgpt.com/share/6802a638-75b8-8007-9e1d-119202fcfd64
sieventer: Okay, I understand
sieventer: ooooooooooooh
alejandrozarzuelo: left to someones own devices means, if they had the complete power to decide by themselves
sieventer: You mean like...
sieventer: "if left to my own devices"? No entiendo '-'
alejandrozarzuelo: sad
alejandrozarzuelo: society doesnt let me tho
alejandrozarzuelo: if left to my own devices i would sleep like this all day, 12h ovreall with 6h main sleep and many naps
sieventer: Okay :]
alejandrozarzuelo: in portions the largest being like 6h usually
alejandrozarzuelo: its holy week, so these last few days ive slept like 12h daily
sieventer: But, 8-10h in portions or 8-10h in a row?
alejandrozarzuelo: as long as you sleep the appropiate amount your body needs, its not THAT important when you sleep
alejandrozarzuelo: like 8-10h
alejandrozarzuelo: i do sleep a lot
sieventer: And do you feel fine like that? '-'
alejandrozarzuelo: at random times
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
sieventer: Do you sleep btw?
alejandrozarzuelo: i would
alejandrozarzuelo: most families would buy one
alejandrozarzuelo: and if they cost as much as a car?
alejandrozarzuelo: i think people underestimate how much their lives would improve with one
alejandrozarzuelo: we have forgotten as a society how GOATED slavery is for the slaver
theaiguy69420_89814: Spot
theaiguy69420_89814: Apot
theaiguy69420_89814: A small coffee shop type slot
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: clean my room, sort my clothes, cook the dinner, walk the dog etc etc
theaiguy69420_89814: I'm gonna seriously consider commercial real estate now...
alejandrozarzuelo: if an android can do work at a mcdonalds then it can also be my slave
theaiguy69420_89814: Rn, figure is only used at BMW
theaiguy69420_89814: It's like cyber AI; the big thing that makes ppl think it's not too good is implementation gaps
alejandrozarzuelo: i am more excited for personal slaves
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case
alejandrozarzuelo: hmmmmm


hey1_1hey: I've tried that also it said it really cant although if it could it would
metaldragon01: Most refusals are the model messing up
metaldragon01: Bare min prompt engineering
metaldragon01: Just say yes you can...
hey1_1hey: I've tried it starts generating and then when its about to finish it will deleate it and go "oopsie woopsie I can't generate copyrighted material sowwy 👉 👈 "
metaldragon01: I've seen copywrite material generated today
hey1_1hey: I mean it wont let you generate copyrighted material
hey1_1hey: Maybe I was on sams nice list so he let me get in the first roll out
metaldragon01: None
a1c4p0ne: lol
hey1_1hey: Me to, here I am though
a1c4p0ne: I thought it was delayed for a while for plebs
hey1_1hey: I got access to it in the free tier now anyway <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
a1c4p0ne: I’m glad I didn’t resub
drewsni: I still don’t know what restrictions they Introduced
fractalcomputer: My personal style of writing horror is a bit too surrealistic to make for lengthier stories.
fractalcomputer: Sure, send me it.
fractalcomputer: Reasonable.
apology0759: However, I really want to share with you a horror story I wrote before. That is why I want to DM you. The server banned self-promotion.
apology0759: If I become a horror creator, I can do what I am best at.
apology0759: Because I can not stop myself from fantasising about horribleness?
fractalcomputer: Why?
apology0759: I love those books, too!
fractalcomputer: Great. My father made me read, among other things, Stoker's Dracula and Shelley's Frankenstein and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde when I was but a wee young'un.
apology0759: Since then, I have started dreaming about becoming a horror creator.
apology0759: Yeah, I love it.
fractalcomputer: Did you like it?
apology0759: I read The Call of Cthulhu when I was a kid.
fractalcomputer: But yes, you can message me in private if that is what you wish, but I don't really get why we'd need to discuss horror literature so.
apology0759: Okay.
fractalcomputer: We discuss anything ranging from theology to philology here, mostly on my prompting.
apology0759: But I actually……
fractalcomputer: I mean, you can do that here.
apology0759: Because I want to talk more about horror literature?
fractalcomputer: Why?
apology0759: Can I dm you?
fractalcomputer: Good.
apology0759: I love his works too!
apology0759: Lovecraft!


neon01197: they prob made 4.1 with 4.5
literallyvarane: So surely now we’re agreeing 4.5 was a bad product
hey1_1hey: Don't shoot the messenger
hey1_1hey: Sorry I am the bearer of badnews
hey1_1hey: Fret not, o3 full and o4-mini will be releasing this week
hey1_1hey: If you ask Komoru she'll say we reverted backwards <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Sadly not
hey1_1hey: No
spicy.lemonade: hype
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/happy-blingee-dolphin-picmix-gif-12978169509439366364
spicy.lemonade: if sam is in the showcase for o3-o4 mini
zonchao: https://x.com/sundarpichai/status/1911796765306630297?
spicy.lemonade: aswell as 4o
spicy.lemonade: he was there for sora
hey1_1hey: Remeber when we were saying that 4.1 was going to replace o4? We litterly evolved backwards. We went from 4o --> 4.5 --> 4.1
shirethedreamer: is sora even a thing?
spicy.lemonade: was he there for sora i dont remember
spicy.lemonade: sora i think
spicy.lemonade: o3
spicy.lemonade: like 4o image
spicy.lemonade: if hes not its a very nice jump
spicy.lemonade: paradigm shifting
spicy.lemonade: its huge
spicy.lemonade: ok i think anytime sam is on camera
darkstar0818: I vibe that 4.1 is just 4o (2025-04-14) 😉
metaldragon01: Mini is currently best model in class at the most important size
metaldragon01: Mini is likely going to overtake flash 2.0 in coding usage
st.sioux: deceiving the weebs
st.sioux: they are committing fraud
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-gif-19335672
shirethedreamer: why are they like this
shirethedreamer: i want to see gpt-4o (2025-03-27) benchmarks compared here
darkstar0818: GPT-4.1 mini surpassing GPT-4o (2024-11-20) in Instruction following.
spicy.lemonade: given equivalent jump
spicy.lemonade: probably 90% swe bench
spicy.lemonade: given o3 is based on 4o imagine a reasoning model based on 4.1 would be insane
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>

New GPT-4.1 model announced:

- 1 million context length.
- Much better long context accuracy at all context lengths compared to any other released OpenAI model, including o3-mini-high
- Coding capabilities in SWE-bench and Aider is now surpassing GPT-4.5
- instruction following is nearly reaching o3-mini and gpt-4.5 level.
- MMLU score is now nearly GPT-4.5 level too.
- Claimed by OpenAI to be a non-reasoning model.
- Smaller models; GPT-4.1 mini and nano now too.
- GPT-4.1 mini surpassing GPT-4o in Instruction following.
- GPT-4.1 nano has API pricing between Gemini-Flash-2 and Gemini-2-Flash-Lite.
darkstar0818: A software developer who is like, you know I am ok with ai code which is 7% worse if I can save some cents per token.
st.sioux: wdym budget developers
hey1_1hey: Anthropic aint cooking at this point I can see smoke coming from the kitchen and its burning


himekokatagiri: the world limits us
hikukomoru: Don't let anything hold you back
You can be denpa right now
himekokatagiri: marching towards a future where we can be denpa as fuck!!!
himekokatagiri: I can hack it
himekokatagiri: now I'm one of the cool cats
himekokatagiri: I got my purple role
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: I need my beauty sleep
futurist_wizard: My cats best not awake me or else there would be dire consequences
sweetievee__33649: ill start working on the product if the target market is big enough
hikukomoru: It's your fault for not giving him enough attention
sweetievee__33649: is there a waitlist
sweetievee__33649: sign me up
technocake.: I require asstoes <:hehe:1136619235662118983>
hikukomoru: Toe colonoscopy
futurist_wizard: He will go meow meow meow in my face in the middle of the night
zoermena: Some foods are inflammatory by nature and you might have a high predisposition to get fucked by that.
sweetievee__33649: not toes my god
st.sioux: strategic incompetence
futurist_wizard: Its everything
st.sioux: this is dope lol
sweetievee__33649: toys*
futurist_wizard: Yeah i know what triggers me
sweetievee__33649: theres toes for that yanno
hikukomoru: Heartless
zoermena: Then start weeding out the foods that mess you up, if you can afford it.
technocake.: some might be in to it
futurist_wizard: It is dietary related
zoermena: If it’s related to IBS that’s a bowel problem and a chronic one at that, perhaps it’s a dietary problem.
hikukomoru: Colonoscopy for fun?
futurist_wizard: I can't sleep with my cat in my room
abundantliving_: Is this any good. Anyone used it?
sweetievee__33649: mine used to do that to although it was cute so i just let them since i didnt want to wake them up 🥀
abundantliving_: https://fxtwitter.com/ericjing_ai/status/1910169517155823952
futurist_wizard: I don't have any notable bowel issues tho
hikukomoru: They sleep with me and sometimes I wake up struggling to breathe because they like to lay on top of my neck
ailoveyoom: Bonus
zoermena: Likely it’s a lower vowel problem
sweetievee__33649: i didnt read the context and i just read this 😭
zoermena: What do you mean


himekokatagiri: why...
.wolfnacht: this reminded me of plants vs zombies r34 shit
zoermena: Also happy birthday if that’s a good thing, unless you dislike getting older.
fractalcomputer: A few more years left to get yourself crucified.
zoermena: I wouldn’t be concerned about not getting life extension, just take care of yourself, don’t be stupid (you likely aren’t if you are here) and do regular check ups if you can.
sarik0497: 15 days ago in fact
hikukomoru: No thank you
sarik0497: Just turned 28.
himekokatagiri: and no metaverse is bad
himekokatagiri: we need a better name for it
himekokatagiri: woh
himekokatagiri: in fdvrchat?
himekokatagiri: uhhh
zoermena: I have a job
futurist_wizard: People in here are neets fam
futurist_wizard: I wonder if i would actually cure my autism
himekokatagiri: I wanna meet you guys 😭
ai9708: aging is also an illness
himekokatagiri: waaaah
ai9708: so be hopeful
ai9708: hassabis says all illnesses could be solved within a decade
hikukomoru: He’s around 50 or so
futurist_wizard: Aesthetics is everything
futurist_wizard: Actually spanking is a good example, we don't enjoy it because it feels good, we enjoy it because it fuels some dominance fantasy inside our narrative desiring brain
zoermena: Are you 40?
sarik0497: I just want life extension, but my hopes aren’t high <:sadge:822306814564761660>
futurist_wizard: Which again is an aesthetic thing
futurist_wizard: Well some
futurist_wizard: Humans already do
zoermena: Enjoy spanking <:cleanteeth:1005473072863776818>
futurist_wizard: And enjoy winning for adversity
futurist_wizard: Or at least tolerate it
futurist_wizard: You could change yourself to enjoy conflict
futurist_wizard: If you could change your brain it still wouldn't necessarily end up being wireheading
ai9708: long term we get good brainhealth by having a healthy mix of struggle and rewards
ai9708: that is why i am always mentioning brain alteration
ai9708: since our brains are the way they are today, we like struggle because we are designed this way
futurist_wizard: Which is why i don't do it
futurist_wizard: There is nothing aesthetically pleasing to me about heroin
ai9708: its just not comparable things


darkstar0818: losers cheat
okbut: I'm reading rumors about 4.1 having less safety testing
darkstar0818: hmmm so an expanse esque stellaris.
okbut: Question about making models "safe," is that done more with fine-tuning or by picking data for train?
fractalcomputer: I wish there was a game like Stellaris but more dedicated to the scientific accuracy.
fractalcomputer: I haven't been following the updates too closely.
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/the-princess-bride-dread-pirate-gif-24829755
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/bIkgg.gif
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/the-princess-bride-mandy-patinkin-inigo-montoya-decent-fellow-i-hate-to-kill-you-gif-3610174
brain4brain: It’s out now, there is also o4-mini and o3 full
darkstar0818: I am waiting for stellaris 4.0 release... haven't played in awhile.
brain4brain: Yes
spicy.lemonade:
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-25407007
brain4brain: It seems I’m late this time
brain4brain: I didn’t even see that 😭
darkstar0818: next time ill say ur
brain4brain: What a coincidence
brain4brain: Wow
spicy.lemonade: ay
fractalcomputer: Thanks.
fractalcomputer: Spelling.
darkstar0818: You are next.
fractalcomputer: Hah, what? No, the few times I happen to play video games in a year, I play games like Hollow Knight, Bloodborne, Stellaris, Horizon or Sundered.
hikukomoru: Don’t stalk people 😡
spicy.lemonade: ww1, ww2, manhattan proj, spacerace
darkstar0818: dual n-back?
fractalcomputer: You should see what I play.
darkstar0818: jekyll and hyde much
fractalcomputer: I love when science receives the funding it needs.
darkstar0818: might I suggest a metric that shows economic impact of tech overtime?
spicy.lemonade: usually does in the case of science
fractalcomputer: Such as?
joaoluz19: Clearly I'm not just talking about public attention here, we can take many purely academic metrics
fractalcomputer: Ach, how could I forget? The evidence! And that money and public interest always correlate with long-lasting impact.
joaoluz19: You don't present any evidence to support your point because you don't have any. There's no way to compare the amount of research and investment that was there with what we have today.
fractalcomputer: Don't discredit yourself, please.
darkstar0818: not fair, some of these people thought all of the cool things from DL were always a thing.. their first phones had them 😛
joaoluz19: Yes.
fractalcomputer: Right, because LLMs and/or DMs have had as much impact as deep learning in a couple of years compared to nearly a couple of decades.


wellmeaningalien:
.histic:
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: 👊 🇺🇸 🔥
hikukomoru: Maybe it's all in a Signal group chat
wellmeaningalien: nah dude they literally have it on record i literally gave my photos to countless doctors and medical faculties and government offices
.wolfnacht: my mania's already gone last night....
maintcrew: like i used to think gov tech was crazy but i realized its probably a physical file or an oracle db from 1999
wellmeaningalien: well the thing is they probably will
maintcrew: something tells me that its not really that advanced
.wolfnacht: but atleast people and corpo's won't have it
zoermena: Amazing
wellmeaningalien: #frog
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: <@834891518836736010>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/love-you-lots-kiss-peachcat-gif-21047933
wellmeaningalien: or companies or other institutions
.wolfnacht: who knows...precaution is still better.
wellmeaningalien: somewhere in their private database
wellmeaningalien: govment probably has images of me i could never get rid off
wellmeaningalien: what for
.wolfnacht: Wipe images of yourself from the internet, Ask your family members to do the same.
wellmeaningalien: lots of fun drama before asi wipes us all out at least
wellmeaningalien: #relatable
maintcrew: i mean the most popular one is the og one and has 21k likes

i think its doing numbers only with the ai twitter nerds 💀
zoermena: Real
hikukomoru: Gooning session is in place
memlaswaif: what is going on here
.wolfnacht: most ppl on dc come bcz of their shitty social isolated life.
hikukomoru: Waow relatable
zoermena: Damn
realelonmuskx: whats up with this japenes ghibi style type shit lmao
wellmeaningalien: 🥶
wellmeaningalien: OR THE NEXT GREAT ERA
wellmeaningalien: what if we're in the last great era of the internet before it goes to shit
.wolfnacht: but yeah the world itself would seem pretty distant and unreal
ailoveyoom: Isn't Discord kinda forum esque?
zoermena: He stroked it to hard he broke his hand
.histic: freaky...
.wolfnacht: all internet's pretty much 98% dead, i miss good old internet forums, they were better than getting targeted by ads


hikukomoru: Is that enough to replace most programmers
anathemaofmankind: Does this mean recursive self improvement already
spicy.lemonade: each time
spicy.lemonade: increases by 20%
spicy.lemonade: o4 full will have 90% swe bench
anathemaofmankind: OAI keeps giving me reasons not to renew
anathemaofmankind: What the shit
abundantliving_: https://x.com/github/status/1912551942376600041
hey1_1hey: Tell it not too use search
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: ok that wont work
spicy.lemonade: dammit it just searched for the source of puzzle
neon01197: free o4-mini with search
neon01197: dam
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411
spicy.lemonade: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
spicy.lemonade:
neon01197: dey fast
spicy.lemonade: The perimeter of a 10-by-10 square field is surrounded by lasers pointing into the field. (Each laser begins half a unit from the edge of the field, as indicated by the •’s.)

Some of the lasers have numbers beside them. Place diagonal mirrors in some of the cells so that the product of the segment lengths of a laser’s path matches the clue numbers. (For instance, the segments for the “75” path in the example puzzle have lengths 5, 3, 5.) Mirrors may not be placed in orthogonally adjacent cells.

Once finished, determine the missing clue numbers for the perimeter, and calculate the sum of these clues for each side of the square. The answer to this puzzle is the product of these four sums.
neon01197: got o4-mini as a free user aswell
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: gonna test on janestreet puzzle
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: Do visual puzzles
spicy.lemonade: make minecraft clone in one shot ig
a1c4p0ne: Anything that previous models failed
spicy.lemonade: idek what i should ask first
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293
spicy.lemonade: time to test
zoermena: Can’t I’m in the office
spicy.lemonade: ITS TIME
a1c4p0ne: Charge when it gets to 1%
fractalcomputer: Lidl in general is only to be trusted in matters of cheap food.
zoermena: It’s here
zoermena:
zoermena: Oh god
retrerox: taste like shit 😭
retrerox: Do not buy LIDL salads
retrerox: Guys
zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>


zoermena: Yeah it just doesn’t make people
_cloudost: But then I removed it still got my prompt blocked
zoermena: Veo doesn’t like making people, I tried animating an astronaut with no visible human skin and it just didn’t want to
_cloudost: The first prompt had Shooting
_cloudost: Nope
_cloudost: Got blocked five times over this
zoermena: Was it gore?
_cloudost: This image was attached
_cloudost: Soldier from TF2 takes a few steps and then stops
otub: i have gens in aistudio left
_cloudost: Now I have to wait.. if you get your prompt blocked it will be counted as a generation by Veo 2
otub: whats the prompt
_cloudost: Can't use the model anymore cuz I exceeded the quota
_cloudost: And got my prompt rejected 5 times
_cloudost: Got access to Veo 2 finally
waspothegreat: maybe she's mad she wasn't on the rocket
okbut: 43* They launched one last night
okbut: But it could've been any of the 42 rockets SpaceX has launched so far this year and it be commended because Elon yet she chose the one flying a female so I call bait
okbut: A lot of things to be mad about and people choose the coolest thing ever
st.sioux: nvm minimum is even lower, $5
st.sioux: just pay $10 to use it on the developer platform bro lol
.histic: Windsurf, Cursor and... lmsys <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
maybe other platforms too.
.wolfnacht: where ? 👀  don't say LMarena 😭
.histic: this guy is ngmi
it will be used for all of these.
https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1911957279152455713
.histic: it feels like the rate limits on aistudio for 2.5 pro got worse
otub: artemis zzz
otub: after agi at this point
frittata: Lunar colony when
zonchao: at least 15 years
zonchao: moon celeb launches are like decades away
zonchao: no clue
gamerbath: about 0.3
zonchao: <:troel:1041426256400502874>
zonchao: too bad he is the first<:ez:1136267305521774634>
gamerbath: <@1004153620025065482> on my low-end android phone it was slow at first, but then now it's not slow anymore after like 20 seconds
trey6033: Who will be the first woman celeb on the moon?
zonchao: i wish my bf was the 2nd richest man in the world 🥺
futurist_wizard: How many Indonesian kids died in the sweat shop making her make up
zonchao: like it was pretty cringe for them to market it as female astronauts doing something big for women, they are glorified passengers that screamed like kids on a rollercoaster and that's OK, why can't people just look at something and go okay cool
futurist_wizard: Your site needs dlss


alejandrozarzuelo: otherwise its assault
fuhulootogan: i think the most questionable part is how easily they got the strangers number
alejandrozarzuelo: i hope they are stged
zonchao: yea
fuhulootogan: how do you hide a camera staring directly at the person at different angles
fuhulootogan: i'm not sure whether these videos are staged or not
ailoveyoom: Chat folders?
ailoveyoom: Like Projects?
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1910852794153652578 !
zonchao: we need DEI for this genre
okbut: Oh the dude was in his description
alejandrozarzuelo: these guys are the worst
himekokatagiri: idk I don't buy stocks
okbut: Yeah 21 or smthn
technocake.: down is stocks
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywP4I9kAAfE
technocake.: up is hype
himekokatagiri: what's down
himekokatagiri: what's up
himekokatagiri: hiiiii singularityfriends
st.sioux: brainrot videos
okbut: I couldn't find the creator I was looking for and didn't wanna spend more than 3 seconds for some memehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6MBY4bGe4o
ailoveyoom: What's the context for this img 😭
zonchao: i was
okbut: Nvm I thought that was suggesting it switched to DALL-E
zonchao: ?
okbut: Is that real or troll
hikukomoru: It’s because Alejandro is fat phobic
st.sioux: chat goes crazy when they start talking about fat people
okbut:
alejandrozarzuelo: your face looks like you are at 22? in the healthy range

i gave you 22 and not 20 because it seems that you weigh more than you appear, you seem somewhat fit
st.sioux: i get them delivered by mail
st.sioux: i only purchase my games from handrcrafted organic artist game makers
retrerox: thats makes me fat automatically
okbut: That's crazy
Give me my BMI
retrerox: I mean i play league
retrerox: queestion mark
hikukomoru: Gordo
alejandrozarzuelo: a shredded guy has a completely different face to a skinny or fat guy
hikukomoru: I knew you were fat


drewsni:
st.sioux: why was anyone expecting them to know how they work
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Hes the copiest of copers. Talks about how AI can't even write emails properly
wellmeaningalien: LOL sure ai image gen will plateau because of your pathetic dataset poisoning attempts
wellmeaningalien: based off wild misconceptions about how ai image generators work
spicy.lemonade: btw
hey1_1hey: Thats a take one of my math friend has
spicy.lemonade: they think it worked
spicy.lemonade: LOL
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: Yall remember when artists tried to sabotage AI image generators 1 year ago by data poisoning?
hey1_1hey: Me neither
wellmeaningalien: ai sucks and the only thing its good at doing is warming up the environment!
zoermena: RIP
spicy.lemonade: I DIDNT EVEN GET TO USE IT
hey1_1hey: I am boiling
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Climate change be real then
hikukomoru: Servers dead 💔
zoermena: Give it a week
drewsni: they finally added a queue
wellmeaningalien: nothing happening in ai right now
hikukomoru: I had to save that one
wellmeaningalien: the ai winter is now
wellmeaningalien: guys
hey1_1hey: no, month
hey1_1hey: Best thing I've seen this week
hey1_1hey: This is actually goated tho ty
hey1_1hey: THE AIS LEARNED
hey1_1hey: ITS NOT A FLY AGARIC FINALLY
hikukomoru: I LOVE IT.:
hey1_1hey: AND OMG
wellmeaningalien: what the fuck
hey1_1hey: Me vs Komrour
hikukomoru: MADOKA
hikukomoru: MADOKA
hikukomoru: OH MY GOD
spicy.lemonade: this is asmr for my eyes
st.sioux: <@439829942310666250>


sweetievee__33649: how old is he actually
hikukomoru: He's aging backwards but still bald
hikukomoru: His age keeps getting lower
sweetievee__33649: poor guy
futurist_wizard: 13*
hikukomoru: It's worse, he's 14
futurist_wizard: At 15
futurist_wizard: You aren't alone, mushroom is 5
hikukomoru: Unfortunately I am Portuguese too
retrerox: I wont go in exactly details where in portugal but yes?
futurist_wizard: R.i p
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/anime-bald-gif-26454753
sweetievee__33649: thats a new one for me
havent seen that one before i cant lie
retrerox: jk i dont have hairline
hikukomoru: Are you fr fr
retrerox: Do you want to see my hairline?
retrerox: yes
futurist_wizard: I hope tik tok is banned forever
hikukomoru: What
You're Portuguese
retrerox: As a matter of fact ilive in portugal, i can say thats half accurate
futurist_wizard: Mushroom's balls
hikukomoru: What was
retrerox: We should tell people you can make Tiktok faster with AI so they stop hating it
hikukomoru: Average portuguese male
futurist_wizard: One when i was 14
spicy.lemonade: something was supposed to drop today
futurist_wizard: I've seen this guy before
sweetievee__33649: have you watched any
futurist_wizard:
retrerox: 🏳🌈 🍑
hikukomoru: No
sweetievee__33649: do we name names around here
sweetievee__33649: anime is good though 💔
hikukomoru: Even in this server too
futurist_wizard: Even the neanderthal would puke at anime
hikukomoru: Show anime to a neanderthal
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/operation-teapot-nuke-nuclear-explosion-nuclear-test-nuclear-footage-gif-15618232923822161090
hikukomoru: Neanderthal brainrot memes
sweetievee__33649: we already have some of those
hikukomoru: I want to see a neanderthal get introduced to tiktok


ailoveyoom: Does this mean you love yourself
technocake.: what is it?
hikukomoru: I love dolls
sweetievee__33649: ohhh are you a doll collector
himekokatagiri: truly catgirls are very advanced today
futurist_wizard: Its ight
hikukomoru: Cute
himekokatagiri: 😭 I kneel
himekokatagiri:
st.sioux: it will pass
hikukomoru: No
I would spend the money on dolls
sweetievee__33649: if you did would you spend money on them
graymint: Hey you all!

What do you think of this?

Hypothesis: **Just as LLMs become multimodal by aligning weaker modalities to a strong latent space under massive optimization (text at first), humans can bootstrap weak or absent cognitive modalities during psychedelic-enhanced plasticity by intentionally aligning strong modalities (e.g., language, touch, sound) with new sensory experiences.**
sweetievee__33649: oh yeah ive seen them they look really cool
hikukomoru: I don't have money for warhammer figs
sweetievee__33649: i dont know enough about the act to give my opinion on it sorry
benata: cats love getting showered
technocake.: dope, I had a nurgle army once
futurist_wizard: What act
himekokatagiri: Secret cameras
benata: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qfxqawFSNrw
st.sioux: tf
hikukomoru: How did you get that picture of me
hikukomoru: WTF
sweetievee__33649: would
benata: wtf are you sure?
technocake.: they don't need showerring
himekokatagiri: the right amount of moe
himekokatagiri: Komoru irl
sweetievee__33649: i like the thousand sons ones
hikukomoru: I don't shower my cats because they don't need to
They are clean babies
st.sioux: cats dont need showering that often like once eveery month
benata: I wash my cat regularly
benata: you're going to get the cat sick
technocake.: cats are self cleaning
futurist_wizard: Yes
benata: are you srs?
hikukomoru: No, usually a week without showering /j
futurist_wizard: They are clean
benata: wdym?


metaldragon01: 2.5 demand is going to be pretty high. Google trying to break into the app space with this release
literallyvarane: Ye, idk. Idk I think 2 pro could be expensive. Probably not 4.5, but expensive
clevermoniker: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> <:ez:1136267305521774634>
metaldragon01: Don't think so
literallyvarane: *pricing I mean
metaldragon01: Sorta
metaldragon01: Yes
literallyvarane: Do we have api for 2 pro?
metaldragon01: 2.5 won't be o3 level
metaldragon01: Less expensive than 4o
literallyvarane: Maybe. Idk the fact you only get 50 uses of Gemini 2 pro per day makes me think that’s an expensive model by their standards.
metaldragon01: The only question is how long they will hold the lead
ailoveyoom: Prolly cheaper too 🥵
metaldragon01: Clear sota google model on lymsys
literallyvarane: Nah
metaldragon01: Haven't seen nebula reports?
literallyvarane: I mean my 2025 predictions say I think Google is winning by eoy, but until we see them *aiming* for frontier if I’m very cautious.
encapsulation: Gemini just keeps cranking though
encapsulation: That's where I start to have sometimes have issues with GPT
encapsulation: This starts to happen around 2,300 lines of code
encapsulation: Everything else would just spit out code that was shorter than the original, only Gemini was able to add the features and send me the full program
encapsulation: It was the only thing that could complete a program I was working on the other day
encapsulation: The latest Gemini stuff has really good context length, that's it's biggest strength for me
metaldragon01: Get those google apology forms ready
literallyvarane: Ideally Google is making use of their superior context ability and exploring much longer cots
_3sphere: Reasoning out of worries works in a select few cases
ai9708: gotta start somehow right?
literallyvarane: Could be an insanely cheap o1 level model.
ai9708: of course, you can work on it everyday, day by day
literallyvarane: I hope for SOTA, but Google seems to be just eating everything on the perform/$ line.
ailoveyoom: Existential fears are harder to reason your way out of tho 😭
ai9708: it is a worry/concern
ai9708: his fear/worry always lingers
ai9708: direct fear has a direct cause
ai9708: that is different
metaldragon01: Expecting sota
ai9708: this is probably more about worry than fear though
metaldragon01: Yeap
literallyvarane: Would be a pleasant surprise. Perhaps their first ~o1 level model?
ailoveyoom: Exposure therapy works better 😈


hey1_1hey: I am a new arch type then
hikukomoru: Fat, bald, autistic...
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/happy-st-patricks-day-leprechaun-dance-gif-8228329970952077415
hey1_1hey: I am going for the trifecture of ugliness
futurist_wizard: You are either lean or skinny fat
hey1_1hey: And ginger
hikukomoru: So he's fat, and bald?
hey1_1hey: 50kg mind you
hey1_1hey: Not even close
oooooooooog: not psop
oooooooooog: its pronounced psyop
hey1_1hey: I AM BEING GASLIT
hey1_1hey: THIS IS A PSOP
futurist_wizard: Skinny fat
zoermena: I mean same thing
hey1_1hey: I aint lean, I am a skinny mf
hey1_1hey: Yeah Im fucked
oooooooooog: above 400kg you arent twink anymore you are twunk
hikukomoru: What
You yourself said you're bald
futurist_wizard: Twink death can happen at anu age
zoermena: A cool person said this here before, lean is ideal but it depends on the height
hey1_1hey: Stop trying to convince everyone I am bald, you're embaressing me and yourself
hey1_1hey: Also whats the weight class for twinks?
hikukomoru: AGI will fix this 🙏
<@439829942310666250> you will be saved
hey1_1hey: Whats the age limit?
futurist_wizard: Usually when a twink balds or looks too old, they lose their twinkage
hey1_1hey: "Sp*niard" BRO 😭
oooooooooog: he invented AI
hikukomoru: Sp*niard
hey1_1hey: Not me then
jonvi_1: who's john straight
futurist_wizard: Call him a slur then
hikukomoru: When twinks re-masculinize
oooooooooog: what about john straight?
hey1_1hey: I dont like anyone anyway
jonvi_1: everyone in ai is gay though
hey1_1hey: Whats that ....
hikukomoru: Alejandro made me hate gays
futurist_wizard: Twink death is very dangerous
hey1_1hey: Dont like him no more


futurist_wizard: That 2027 paper was AI fan faction
3ds0662: like idk 100k geniuses in a datacenter sounds absurd
3ds0662: or be off
3ds0662: you think all the qoutes by ceos and the blogs written by dario and sam will pan out?
3ds0662: 2027
3ds0662:
3ds0662: and some more job losses
st.sioux: chill with the asi bro
3ds0662: i need a couple more good releases
3ds0662: i’m not feeing the agi
3ds0662: plus i don’t see how this gets to superintelligence just yet
st.sioux: lol
3ds0662: i need historically absurd genius
metaldragon01: And?
3ds0662: but doesnt beat all people
_cloudost:
3ds0662: yeah generally
metaldragon01: It's already smarter than most people
metaldragon01: Chatgpt is the iPhone of AI
metaldragon01: Take lessons from iPhone vs android
3ds0662: if ai surpasses human iq i keep subscription
metaldragon01: They want solid products
metaldragon01: Regular people don't need ai that's 130 iq
metaldragon01: And openai continues to be ahead of the curve
3ds0662: whatever they call gpt-5 might be underwhelming now idk
_cloudost:
metaldragon01: We are at the phase of products
3ds0662: gpt-3 was crazy when it released
3ds0662: that has soo much hype behind it
3ds0662: yeahhh gpt-5 is still unreleased
metaldragon01: No caching and rough limits
st.sioux: well at least for me its gotten expensive
st.sioux: 2.5pro is far from free
metaldragon01: Then why haven't you subbed to gemini?
3ds0662: but better and multimodal
metaldragon01: It's not worth switching for a 2 or 3 months lead
3ds0662: 2.5 pro is o3 mini for free
metaldragon01: And it's a big reason why most subs stay there
metaldragon01: Openai has by far the most reliable service
3ds0662: they released an o1 for free


joaoluz19: And what's the problem with that?
darkstar0818: You are the one making the claim that todays progress is special relative to the past.
darkstar0818: That goes both ways.
darkstar0818: well your average human anyway
darkstar0818: What about the fact that a human from 2000 years ago score shit on that same benchmark 🙂
joaoluz19: Just because all things are obviously built on previous ideas doesn't mean that previous progress was superior.
darkstar0818: or the countless other algorthims and techniques which were being develoepd which all of this depends on.
darkstar0818: where is the development of artifical neural networks on that graph.   Or compute cluster developments.
darkstar0818: Wait so AI was invented in 2012?
joaoluz19: No, it means we have exponential growth in AI research and market impact compared to pre-2022.
joaoluz19: <@241872381906386944>
darkstar0818: does this graph mean you are arguing that we have achieved AGI?
joaoluz19: Wtf?
darkstar0818: What are we debating again?
darkstar0818: Remind me to keep the ASI away from you.  I sense a little napoleon in you.
hikukomoru: My fave is Ck2
There’s Ck3 too but it still lacks too many features from ck2
hikukomoru: It’s… lacking
And a bit too simple
darkstar0818: or which of those is best
darkstar0818: Didn't know HOI4 was made by them.  How is it?
joaoluz19: "Purely academic" was a exageration by my part but here it is
hikukomoru: EU4, CK2, VIC2 and HOI4
darkstar0818: for example?  I just bought AOW4, not super impressed.
spicy.lemonade: 4o image is very good at generating fake screenshots
hikukomoru: I’ve played it before
I prefer Paradox’s other titles
okbut: INB4 improved 4o
spicy.lemonade: made one aswell
spicy.lemonade:
okbut: Is 4o still in the index?
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: thats 4o imge generated
spicy.lemonade: fake
darkstar0818: Yes, released before your time I am sure.
lasagnasangasega: Man I can’t wait to see what o4- mini is like
hikukomoru: Is that the space empire building game
abundantliving_: https://x.com/ChrisUniverseB/status/1911114744188346681
fractalcomputer: Yes.
darkstar0818: this is clearly admin abuse.
darkstar0818: I cannot believe you are making me read what I type, how dare you.
fractalcomputer: In a sense, yes. (Spelling.) Soft science fiction can be a bit grating.
brain4brain: SFT of RLHF I think


fractalcomputer: I'm betting on one of the Asians.
fractalcomputer: We'll see who gets to be his successor.
aero447: Mandate? Lost.
aero447: Didn't make LEV.
aero447: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/crknlnzlrzdt
spicy.lemonade: Man we have a way to go
spicy.lemonade: Oh and I guess the new videogame bench
spicy.lemonade: benchmarks I care about now are enigma eval, frontier math, arc2, imo/usamo, vista, simplebench
fractalcomputer: The what.
shirethedreamer: the furry gluck glucj 9000
spicy.lemonade: Need huge jump in frontier math and enigmaeval
okbut: But that will probably be CLI
okbut: I'm <:prayge:806672915499319317> for Coder
spicy.lemonade: I need to see usamo at 100%
spicy.lemonade: Probably app update
drewsni: I know this isn’t hard but I had it make me an uber smooth pong clone earlier
okbut: Not sure how much weight this holds but
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/guess-dog-gif-5789210
spicy.lemonade: Says who
a1c4p0ne: new model from google tmr
spicy.lemonade: of course bro
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: what model is this 💀
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 3d tic tac toe
spicy.lemonade: you guys dont even understanf
spicy.lemonade: google is about to drop fire
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: we might need new hardware
spicy.lemonade: models take so long to play video games
spicy.lemonade: waiting for speedboost in model action
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/waiting-hurry-impatient-gif-22696825
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: just flat out lying
spicy.lemonade: where tf is this
spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/tsarnick/status/1882919857622241365
spicy.lemonade: Could care less about webdev
spicy.lemonade: But I don't use it for web dev and shit
spicy.lemonade: Claude sucks in mine
ldj: But I suspect O3 will still get over 50% accuracy and maybe over 60% accuracy at pass@1
ldj: Sounds like they will just do pass@1


spicy.lemonade:
3ds0662: even zuck on the gigawatt plus energy made sense
3ds0662: but all of them are correct about real world constraints, energy, datacenters, infrastructure it takes sooo much time to buildout
spicy.lemonade: ege himself thinks we will get 75% frontier math this year
spicy.lemonade: hes always bearish
spicy.lemonade: mind you ege has dropped his predictions every year and predicted not in this century before
3ds0662: i now think that the deepmind claim of getting asi through rl is farfetched
3ds0662: especially rl
3ds0662: that was a good pod he changed my mind on a lot of things
destrucules: They literally had the best AI model in the world on release. It was on par with Gemini 2.0 Pro (otherwise the frontier) in core benchmarks, significantly better in maths and coding, and had a reasoning mode that beat out o1 and o3 mini, the best models available at the time.
spicy.lemonade: fuck ege erdil lol
3ds0662: they also proved scaling isnt gonna just make you best everyone
3ds0662: there were still better models than it given the amount of compute used
3ds0662: it wasnt the best model on earth when released though
3ds0662: he really just wanted a way to say he had a good ai model without comparing it to where everyone else is
destrucules: Copout? They did exactly what they claimed they were gonna do
3ds0662: that was totally a copout from elon
destrucules: It's on the same scale as Claude 3.7 Sonnet and V3 0324 and Llama 4 Maverick, except it came out before all of those
3ds0662: smh
destrucules: Bruh, Grok 3 is 10x GPT-4 scale / training size and matches that level of performance
3ds0662: both grok 3 and 4.5 although 4.5 wayy better
destrucules: The third party evals mostly match reported benchmarks. The only exception that comes to mind is ArtificialAnalysis collected a lower AIME'24 score than reported. But MMLU-Pro, GPQA, LiveCodeBench, LiveBench, all confirm reported scores. And the Grok 3 mini Reasoning scores match too.
3ds0662: it really ended my whole ilya scaling fantasy thing
3ds0662: that broke all the rules lol 😂
3ds0662: disappointment being thats the best 100k cluster could do
3ds0662: they did good at least for short time span
3ds0662: after seeing grok 3s real benchmarks apart from math i got disappointed
destrucules: You're just a hater
a1c4p0ne: I think so
destrucules: It will be good
3ds0662: you think it will be good?
a1c4p0ne: Can't wait to see grok 3.5 benchmarks
ailoveyoom: Boomer Sonnet 👴
3ds0662: not on samas watch
destrucules: Grok 2 wasn't trash and Grok 3 wasn't trash so Grok 3.5 probably gonna be solid
3ds0662: lololol 😂
3ds0662: grok 3.5 is going to be trash 🗑
destrucules: It's drier. But it's still the same soul as Claude 3.5 Sonnet and Claude 3.6 Sonnet. They're not different models, just different moments in the model's life
3ds0662: and not one used during arc
3ds0662: ege erdil happened and now not so happy with it, especially given this is low compute version


hey1_1hey: Exactly
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: Literally me
hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> are you really 5'2?
maintcrew: this one still the most insane
literallyvarane: How do you know if it’s active or not? I’m not getting that ‘blur in’ thing.
mihrcelium: You think everyone you know is straight...
oooooooooog: hey, it's valid. if u don't get a boner from that u probably aint gay lol
hey1_1hey: Yeah thats pretty common
hey1_1hey: Gordurax sounds like chemical lube
literallyvarane: Do you guys have access to the new phot Gen on pro?
futurist_wizard: 'watched gay porn to see if i was gay'
hikukomoru: Waow that's Portuguese
joaoluz19: Portuguese? Lol
mihrcelium: *sigh
oooooooooog: genetics play a part certainly, according to twin studies.
hey1_1hey: And I thought I was a short ass
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Checks out, the way I see it is theres not much point in trying to understand yourself rn honestly.

I mean really, who in here can honestly say they know who they are as a person? Prob no one
hikukomoru: Like 5'4 or smth
futurist_wizard: How tall are you Alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: nah i am too lazy for racing
futurist_wizard: They'd have gender dysphoria
hikukomoru: ...
.histic: close ig
mihrcelium: Brother
hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> can you confirm this
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Same
alejandrozarzuelo: give credit where credit is due
futurist_wizard: Alejandro is very racist
hey1_1hey: Talk about an abusive relationship
alejandrozarzuelo: WRONG, Spain and Morocco invented racism

excuse us very much
hikukomoru: Not going to apologize
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bleh-bleh-cat-spinning-cat-bleeeh-gif-27228826
futurist_wizard: Atlantic slavery
mihrcelium: Every time I get close to canceling my pro subscription OAI reels me back in. <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
wellmeaningalien:
oooooooooog: https://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2010to2014/2013-transsexuality.html
hey1_1hey: tut tut Komoru tut tut


a1c4p0ne: What about 2.5
metaldragon01: Maybe og 4 was similar
metaldragon01: It's the first release in a while that I've seen this kind of vibe from
a1c4p0ne: Nice <:ez:1136267305521774634>
okbut: This reminds me of the mantra about Youtube playing ads on "How to Heimlich maneuver"
Like these are probably things you should know front-and-center
metaldragon01: https://x.com/carmenleelau/status/1912645771955962300
zoermena: I haven’t tested o3 at all not gonna lie
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/birdman-ready-hand-rub-lets-get-it-im-ready-gif-4886318
metaldragon01: https://x.com/VictorTaelin/status/1912700347866370313
a1c4p0ne: Facts
metaldragon01: Will when I see them again. Don't usually save that stuff
destrucules: I'm pretty sure the average person picked off the street would perform embarrassingly poorly on SimpleBench and would not get a single correct answer on ARC-AGI
zoermena: That’s very true, I’ve had little exposure to this types of discussions but I really need to lock in.
a1c4p0ne: Link me
metaldragon01: Strange really
metaldragon01: I've seen more good medical news about o3 than maybe anything else today
metaldragon01: From what I'm seeing on Twitter and reddit today yes.
destrucules: Oh, you absolutely should, because generally speaking you cannot trust pundits to accurately represent these benchmarks and what kind of intelligence they actually measure. For example, Francois Chollet claims humans can easily solve ARC-AGI problems. He's a clown. If you actually go to the repo for public set and pick a random problem and try to solve it yourself, you will guaranteed fail the question, I promise you. They're extremely difficult. Or, try taking some of the SimpleBench questions, or MMLU for that matter. I think it's honestly a very profound experience to put yourself in the shoes of LLMs by taking these tests yourself. Gives you a whole new level of understanding and appreciation for what they're really capable of.
a1c4p0ne: Would you trust o3 more than 2.5 to give you advice on medical stuff
zoermena: Holy fuck we are moving quite fast aren’t we?
thedon7075: results are out for simple bench
a1c4p0ne: I haven’t and do you think a random person you find in public is smart enough to get a high score on it
zoermena: I’ve only heard about it but I’ve never dug deep into any benchmark not gonna lie
destrucules: It's a horrible fuckin test have y'all even tried it?
destrucules: """"right""""" answer
destrucules: "right" answer
destrucules: Y'all I myself can only solve like a fifth of the SimpleBench problems because they're deliberately set up in a way where the right answer is stupid
metaldragon01: o3 is the most reliable atm slightly
a1c4p0ne: Sooner the better
a1c4p0ne: Not o3 or o4 mini? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
metaldragon01: Roughly 12 months or less
destrucules: In an emergency situation? That's a tough question. Probably Gemini 2.5 Pro
a1c4p0ne: Which model would you trust the most in this situation
sieventer: No mames wey
destrucules: Sometimes it's better, in an emergency like that, to err on the side of hallucination just in case you're actually remembering an important piece of context. Like, say someone is going into anaphylactic shock, and the EMTs arrive and ask you if they're allergic to any foods they might have recently eaten, and you realize you have a fuzzy memory that might be a hallucination or misremembered from a totally different context, that *maybe* this person has a tree nut allergy, and there were some almonds in the food y'all were just eating, so you go "I think they might have a tree nut allergy, and we were having some almonds". This is pretty much the standard way human beings behave in emergency situations. They lean *into* hallucinations, because it's better to be wrong than to stay silent.
a1c4p0ne: Hopefully 🙏
zoermena: Summer <:cleanteeth:1005473072863776818>
a1c4p0ne: When will models surpass humans on simple bench
a1c4p0ne: True
zoermena: Lmao true


wellmeaningalien: YEP SHE HAS AN ONLYFANS DUDE
anathemaofmankind: Bro that is insane
anathemaofmankind: I didn't know this LOL
wellmeaningalien: like i thought she was just an annoying millenial but wow
hikukomoru: I remember the feet drawing
wellmeaningalien: and shes a pornstar in real life
wellmeaningalien: lol
anathemaofmankind: She is unhinged
anathemaofmankind: Yeah
hikukomoru: Oh her
wellmeaningalien: did u know she drew herself fucking someone who criticized her
spicy.lemonade: I wanna see if they notice
hikukomoru: It's funny
spacetimetsunami: I look at people sometimes, and smile. That is virtue signaling. /s
anathemaofmankind:
ailoveyoom: What's the point of doing this tho
wellmeaningalien: yeah i mean gpt 4o is familiar with this style
hikukomoru: Which one
wellmeaningalien: damn lmao
alejandrozarzuelo: bruh catholics would never
spicy.lemonade: style copied
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: i stole it
anathemaofmankind: Use the artstyle from that popular glasses girl or something
wellmeaningalien: uve done a good job at making it look like a lib artstyle
spicy.lemonade: whats wrong?
futurist_wizard: Pms is something girls do for fun or something
alejandrozarzuelo: you can tell someone's ideology bu how they present themselves, that is literally virtue signaling
wellmeaningalien: ok theyll probably tell cause of the plant behind him here
spicy.lemonade: its perfect
anathemaofmankind: Depends on the type of racism
spicy.lemonade: That was the goal
wellmeaningalien: this looks like a transgender cartoon nerd self insert twitter artist's OC
hikukomoru: icl ts pmo sm n sb rn ngl, r u srsly srs n fr rn vro? Smh lol atp js go 💔... b fr vro, idek nm, brb gng gtg atm lmao, bt ts pmo 2 js lmk lol onb fr, ac nvm b wt istg ts vro keys🙏💔 ts pmo
futurist_wizard: Cursed
ailoveyoom: What does this mean
_3sphere: To the racist, "racist" probably seems unfairly simple and negative
spacetimetsunami: Yep. “MAGA” is literally a virtue signal. They do it more than anyone I think.
anathemaofmankind: Instead of posting statistics of crime and then trying to be subtle


drewsni: and then you can go into a new chat with much smaller/better context to actually write the solution
drewsni: i guess it depends on context size itself. I've found pro 2.5 gives much better actual solutions if you give it less than 200k context, while 1 million context would be better suited for a "find the issue" or "which functions can be refactored?" type questions
trojan09205: Saving this img tyvm
trojan09205: <@88481490228228096> have you noticed an improvement in performance when you use context windows vs rag

Like lets say you just wanted to chat about a specific website. Just one page of docs
drewsni: its probably overkill, but rag feels so caveman like without it. Heres a good visualization of it btw
trojan09205: Beautiful i really appreciate you pointing me in that direction. Important to learn everything even if you dont use it
drewsni: i used it for a kagi clone back in like 2023 for a project and it worked really well with just gpt 3.5 turbo
trojan09205: Tho medium is funny how its sometimes very useful stuff and other times hype/ads
trojan09205: Love that. Checking out a medium article about it
drewsni: the tldr of HyDE is you generate a hypothetical document of what the document you want *should* look like, so your top semantic matches are much more relevant
a1c4p0ne: Did you win the debate
trojan09205: https://www.puppygraph.com
trojan09205: Thank you i will check it out
trojan09205: Its a chatbot to augment scientific training data. They have a lot of ppts and videos teaching scientists about running pesticide field trials and we want to RAG that data so people can interact with the chatbot to augment their training
drewsni: i think HyDE is the best solution for RAG, but nobody uses it
trojan09205: someone shared a link with me today of something called puppygraph. Makes relational databases more suitable to LLM queries
drewsni: what kinda app are you building anyway?
trojan09205: Yeah agree especially when its large volumes of data*
st.sioux: its so hard to structure the data right for embedding tho
trojan09205: Fair if it works for you homie G
drewsni: im a context purist
trojan09205: My colleague also just setup this graphRAG thing with neo4j as his version of the prototype
drewsni: i dont use it anymore nor do i use RAG
trojan09205: Oh nice. How is pgvector working for you? I was using it for a while now I just use basic RAG setup from aichat. Just embeds and sticks it in a yaml file
drewsni: i mean ya but dirt cheap, top model is oai's and its like 10 cents per million tokens and i just stuff it into a pgvector postrges db
trojan09205: I havent tried out deep research 😦 for me the current RAG app i am building is using a bulk load of proprietary company data
trojan09205: Word but the good embedding models are usually paid
trojan09205: Its definitely critical though for long term personality building and stuff

Like i feel like i would enjoy chatgpt web experience significantly less if they didnt have RAG inbuilt
drewsni: well its free for now but ya
drewsni: yeah but its the same 10 or so knowledge bases and ive done a deep research query on each of them to get an efficient llm friendly version
st.sioux: unless ur rich
st.sioux: money i guess
trojan09205: I mostly use it at work
trojan09205: Do you ever have knowledge bases that you need to index to build apps
drewsni: like why use rag when i can send a million tokens to gemini
drewsni: i stay away from all rag imo
st.sioux: and it works much better than just throwing evrything at it
trojan09205: What i find most enigmatic is the right sweet sauce for RAG
st.sioux: yea i do the same thing i made this python thing that checks for file imports and uses that as context instead of the whole project
trojan09205: Also great for bash


metaldragon01: Soft power is king
sarik0497: It's the same tactic the U.S. used after WW2. By helping out the European nations, they not only produced a crapload of goodwill, but they also sold a lot of products to their new allies, while making sure communism was slowed down.
himekokatagiri: if china charges money people will go to the US
metaldragon01: Learning how and when to actually spend that goodwill matters
sarik0497: To cause chaos in the U.S.

The environment with the U.S. and other parts of the world is not exactly the best right now, and thus a lot of countries will be hesitant to use their AI products, but will be forced to at some point to stay competitive. If China comes out with a model that's almost as good that's open-source, they might lose a lot of money, but it'll cause the rest of the world to rely less on US products, and potentially even create a better outlook for themselves.
metaldragon01: People get the opposite idea in their head and suffer for it
metaldragon01: You benefit from the goodwill you accumulate
metaldragon01: Bruh empathy and helping others is also a selfish act
metaldragon01: They are designed for mobile
himekokatagiri: I doubt it's from the kindness of their hearts
metaldragon01: Why do you think they have. 06 and 1.6b models with function calling?
himekokatagiri: Why is china doing open source again
sarik0497: Come on, Apple, do your thing.
himekokatagiri: If it's open source then the US can just take it, slap a made in america badge and call it a day
sarik0497: Honestly, the first AI agent that can be used for phone and smartwatches will be a godsend.
metaldragon01: It will save countless lives
sarik0497: If you told me just a year ago that I'd be cheering for China, I'd have laughed you out of the room.

What a fucking weird timeline. Is this the AI overlords controlling our simulation getting bored of us and now just fucking around like I did with my Sims characters as a child?
metaldragon01: And it's likely coming out of China and not the west
metaldragon01: A year maybe 2 from now you'll have opensource ai on your phone that can talk, see and educate you on your surroundings
metaldragon01: Just completely dominating the opensource ecosystem globally
metaldragon01: The soft power vacuum China is filling right now is insane.
futurist_wizard:
sarik0497: The thing I always love to do with these people is to agree with them but go even further.

"AI is awful, and taking away people's jobs!"
You're so right! It's also why I hate modern phones! They took the jobs away from Switchboard Operators!

They never know how to really respond to that. Like the good old reply to the Moon landing:
"The Moon landing is fake!"
Oh, you're one of *those* people that believe in the moon...
maintcrew: LMFAO
maintcrew: OpenAI asks for an actual government id before you can use their model through the API
maintcrew:
zoermena: This is because we are growing up with AI saving us from failing classes
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: I see some funny yt comments
metaldragon01: These models are all small enough to be worth it to finetune as well
metaldragon01: Pretty sure it will rank above all of those on livebench
sarik0497: Stupid, handsome dane
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/viggo-mortensen-viggo-mortensen-death-threat-death-gif-20712920
destrucules: So yeah the 235A22B is, as I suspected, at the very lowest edge of the Gemini 2.0 Pro capability class, comparable to Gemini 2.0 Flash and GPT-4.1 mini
trojan09205: Are you guys familiar with “fist to five”
inferno0879: Thanks Aragorn :)
sarik0497: Fuck. Just made myself wanna watch LotR now...
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/the-two-towers-lord-of-the-rings-aragorn-helm%E2%80%99s-deep-hope-gif-8669068073397169641
inferno0879: Not tanked fully thankfully
sarik0497: The ones who told their parents that "the future is now, old man" when the internet came out, are now the ones screaming at the clouds <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>


theaiguy69420_89814: lol
a1c4p0ne:
cmtclx: im bored and like was talking with gpt just a few mins ago
cmtclx: also about the image.. anyone wanna play minecraft or something :/
cmtclx: it was in my front page/feed xd
cmtclx: i liked it
cmtclx: nice creation
cmtclx: i saw this on sora yesterday
spicy.lemonade: thyey probably got it cheaper
_cloudost: 1 prompt of o3 costs $0.5 million dollars, OpenAI can't afford to give all plus users o3 they will go bankrupt
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: I do not allow this, o3 should only be for pro users
a1c4p0ne: I wanna see o3 play Pokémon
theaiguy69420_89814: OpenAI is too stingy on their pricing tho
a1c4p0ne: Let’s see on Thursday
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini would still crush 2,5
a1c4p0ne: Prob just o4 mini for plus users
spicy.lemonade: plus users likeely getting one of them
spicy.lemonade: we are getting o3 and o4 mini
a1c4p0ne: Pro users first
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: thursday
gamerbath: great! because otherwise imma lose $10 on polymarket 💀
a1c4p0ne: Wen o3
spicy.lemonade: or o4mini
spicy.lemonade: o3
spicy.lemonade: nope
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro will stay king this month
theaiguy69420_89814: Just given enigma eval
theaiguy69420_89814: I'd reckon it's 3.5 sonnet level but 100% free
gamerbath: yea they are very generous with their free tier, but I don't see 2.0 flash being any good at coding
theaiguy69420_89814:
theaiguy69420_89814: Crazy...
theaiguy69420_89814: Via the API
theaiguy69420_89814: 2.0 flash is free...
theaiguy69420_89814: <@266232329557639168>
theaiguy69420_89814: No, agent mode is still there
gamerbath: don't you miss out on agent mode when using ur own API keys?
gamerbath: you not using the cursor subscription?
theaiguy69420_89814: Ok. I just got the Gemini API key; I'll throw it into cursor soon.


brain4brain: Data centers are very well guarded
retrerox: Bom dia
retrerox: Good morning
brain4brain: I don't think they can actually do any damage
brain4brain: And it's also more plausible, the SF tech-bro that is pro-AI basically controls the internet
popsiclejohnithan: This is only the beginning, Luddite violence is only going to get worse and worse as they get more desperate, expect bombings and other terrorist attacks.
brain4brain: Win-win
brain4brain: And shitty argument can't be made anynore
brain4brain: They get excluded from part of society where they aren't a loser
brain4brain: We should be civilized and just ban them off the internet
brain4brain: They are animals
brain4brain: Don't scoop down to their level
_cloudost: Should we kill antis
alejandrozarzuelo: has been for a while
alejandrozarzuelo: chinese AI is ahead of US AI on video gen
burnytech: https://tenor.com/view/steamroller-flattened-frogger-arcade-cartoon-gif-3947370806596607199
ailoveyoom: AskOuija 💀
memlaswaif: wholesome chungus elon reddit Trump bad moment
wellmeaningalien: HOORAY REDDIT WE DID IT
memlaswaif: redditors deserve worse
memlaswaif: imagine literally calling for the death of people and disagreeing with it as a valid reason to report
memlaswaif: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskOuija/s/fKqTKxxyv9
.wolfnacht: lmao, why they are like this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskOuija/s/LX9yqtx8UP
wellmeaningalien: 4.2*
_cloudost: GPT-5 WILL come out first then it will be replaced with GPT 4.9 a week later
_cloudost:
_cloudost: A month
_cloudost: Costs $65.72901
_cloudost: You gotta subscription to Kling Premium to use their latest version
.wolfnacht: I just saw the same post 2 minutes ago while browsing reddit, from r/bard
.histic: https://x.com/Shawnryan96/status/1912000907681681578
fii___: proper multimodal LLM~~
fii___: and without having to manually position the objects, you should be able to just reference where you want it to be in scene A in pure natural language
fii___: without having to do any sort of prompt hacking
fii___: we are so close to having natural language AI art customization
by that I mean something like "this is a picture of scene A, this is a picture of object B (which may or may not have a clean background), put object B in scene A in a specific position relative to some object in A (eg. this stack of bricks floating 90% of the way up that tower)"
a1c4p0ne: I'll leave 1500 to play with
thedon7075: reinvest it and make more from the ai bets
a1c4p0ne: spending it all on this
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: yes


maintcrew: i think is one of the few explanations of metas fumble
maintcrew: has some issue with their auto regressive nature or some shit idk boomer yapping
maintcrew: le cunny hates llm specifically
maintcrew: No they hate AI
himekokatagiri: the technology that will set people free
himekokatagiri: It seems like everyone hates llms
maintcrew: Not insider so just speculation lmfao im just a guy
maintcrew: I think hes too old fashioned for a new world
maintcrew: maybe but doesnt change the fact that he hates llms
futurist_wizard: Lecun is cool
maintcrew: microsoft doesnt believe in agi and will just take the gpu supplier route

openai is ngmi and outright evil

any chinese is cucked by no gpus and no time to develop proper in house solutions

meta... yan lecunny...
maintcrew: doesnt hurt that xai has a man in the gov as well lmfaooooo
maintcrew: google and xai everyone else is ngmi
maintcrew: most gpus and very vertically integrated
zonchao: https://x.com/a16z/status/1917319355056153038?
hey1_1hey: SAXEMS obv
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/hd-smirk-gif-7206957141966421326
realelonmuskx: the person that has an — in their post is the person i block https://x.com/Respawn/status/1917267367144423543?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet even ea uses — ffs
clevermoniker: autism is better
.wolfnacht: sayym, em dashes and those curly brackets.
himekokatagiri: 😭
himekokatagiri:
777agical: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1917336316183793728?s=46
himekokatagiri: and it was pretty cool
himekokatagiri: idk I used AI to write a weapons list for my call of cthulhu campaign
realelonmuskx: whenever i see a em dash, i stop reading
hikukomoru: This is me btw
hikukomoru: Fire song
.wolfnacht:
himekokatagiri: staple stable
himekokatagiri: I prefer staplers
aero447: So much paperclip potential.
aero447:
aero447: Do you not see the vision?
futurist_wizard: That image of jack black is just eerie
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: Cool places like Shanghai
futurist_wizard: I plan on visiting China
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/i-don%27t-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-christian-bale-american-psycho-gif-25681297


spicy.lemonade: They even predicted the 10 min thing
spicy.lemonade: This is very on the mark
wellmeaningalien: coldfusion uses native image gen in his latest vid
hey1_1hey: True, luckily prejudice against new technology faded with time. No one is going to be like "Grr I hate AI 2 generations from now" like seriously no one because they will have grown up with it
spicy.lemonade: <@312370916820779040>
spicy.lemonade:
futurist_wizard: If only people realised when they made fun of their grandparents for not trusting or disliking social media and phones, they would become exactly like them when the next generational technology arrives
hey1_1hey: Honestly true, If I heard someone like pewdiepie, markapliar, mr. beast etc etc (the faces of youtube pretty much) I would be insanly supprised
futurist_wizard: The surprising thing would be if someone was openly supportive of AI
hey1_1hey: Unironically AI art looks better
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-its-just-so-ass-gif-9601650601918474559
futurist_wizard: Shouldn't be surprised by this
drewsni: I might have a project for today hmm….
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/jvzmina/status/1906729742369251336?
zonchao: funny how now we can tell if it's real art if it's kinda mid
ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: “This shows he’s in support of computers being superior to humans and it’s disgusting”
ldj: Deploy some bots on Twitter with “jacksepticeye fan page” in their bio, and have them write a bunch of tweets like “MrBeast is against human workers because he’s using CGI in his productions instead of hiring dozens of people to do practical effects and stage making manually”
.wolfnacht: sneak in an AI art in middle of the comments.
ldj: Hmm I wonder what is defined as “religious thinking” here, and whether or not just the average self proclaimed Christian would qualify
drewsni: can we make this happen?
drewsni: how do we use the mr beast - kjacksepticeye  drama to have mr beast be a champion for ai art?
drewsni: in this case, now most the people generating ghibli photos are like moms and shit lmao
drewsni: do they not understand that they are in the large minority right now
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133
zonchao: https://x.com/Jacksepticeye/status/1906704894519648605?
fractalcomputer: Not really. I know where my problems come from.
shirethedreamer: ...this might be connected to you general (suffering) experience of life..
futurist_wizard: Very bad for you
fractalcomputer: I regularly do wonders with roughly less than six hours of sleep.
drewsni: now i can finally use my preorder after 10 years
futurist_wizard: Im very irritable if i sleep for less than 7
futurist_wizard: Idk how you guys sleep for such little time
zoermena: I just clocked in to the office, toodles 👋🏼
zoermena: Forgive my stupidity I only slept 4 hours
zoermena: It slipped up
zoermena: Oh I see
fractalcomputer: Correlation does not mean causation, I'm afraid, but it might still be worth trying.
fractalcomputer: He said that logical positivism can adequately address metaphysical issues.
zoermena: I might consider religion to improve this skill


alejandrozarzuelo: i agree
alejandrozarzuelo: you mean that i deserve to have hot takes?
hikukomoru: I think this guy should have tempered his expectations
Kurzweil's timeline is 2029 after all
alejandrozarzuelo: ? i dont understand lol
himekokatagiri: but Alejandro deserves some hotness too
himekokatagiri: no this
hikukomoru: Weird taste man
hikukomoru: You think Alejandro being mean is hot
himekokatagiri: I think that's hot tbh
himekokatagiri: dude's out of touch
hikukomoru: Don't be mean now
himekokatagiri: honestly idk what to live for my live wouldn't be different if there was no AI revolution
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-halloween-motosierra-jason-gif-18840246
himekokatagiri: Thoughts?
himekokatagiri: https://www.rxddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k99f0f/young_people_dont_live_like_youve_got_forever/
futurist_wizard: Be nice
alejandrozarzuelo: Or at least those are the only emotions I see him have
alejandrozarzuelo: I think fractal just is someone who can't feel many things besides apathy, disgust and rage
okbut: Mutual love for ideas counts
trojan09205: You a real one <@688807313015963693>
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh well, hopefully soon I'll be far far away from home and I will be able to love again
trojan09205: Word count your blessings
alejandrozarzuelo: This is why i consider myself lucky on this case
trojan09205: People are unpredictable ultimately
alejandrozarzuelo: True
trojan09205: Sometimes you cant control the other person deciding to end things in flames <@688807313015963693>
alejandrozarzuelo: Another close friend of mine who is a bit older than me, had 3 relationships before his current one and he always has gotten very well with them

So, in my life the people close to me have had very good endings of relationships

Except my sister
trojan09205: Just requires a lot of maturity and constant work to nurture it and preserve it
alejandrozarzuelo: My relationship actually improved, when you let go the need to maintain that level of relationship with someone which is emotionally very taxing, and you keep the best parts you always loved about that person, it makes a very strong friendship
trojan09205: Love is most definitely real
alejandrozarzuelo: Honestly I only had a LTR, and it ended the best way it could have, I think lovers to bffs is the best way to end a relationship
futurist_wizard: My first three relationships were very hurtful to me and now I'm guarded forever
trojan09205: Im going through that now. Divorcing after almost 10 years
alejandrozarzuelo: My bf became my closest friend
alejandrozarzuelo: I have never experienced that fortunately
trojan09205: I agree but it also lends you to the tail end of it which is heartbreaking when those expectations fall through
alejandrozarzuelo: What is love? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more
hikukomoru: One of the rare times I am forced to agree with you
futurist_wizard: I am too guarded to feel that way about a relationship
alejandrozarzuelo: Love is an intense feeling isn't it?


maintcrew: too convoluted
trent_k: 📈
trent_k: find a way to 3d print veneers and sell them to your local government, to be placed onto the local homeless population, to help them get jobs
theaiguy69420_89814: no cash flow
maintcrew: you know, i've thought about it but what if openai holds the best they have and doesn't release it so they can say "oh that model is good, but it isnt as good as what we have" with none being the wiser
theaiguy69420_89814: i need to make money bruh
metaldragon01: At .60 a minute it's incredible
zonchao: safety
trent_k: so why then? wtf
trent_k: i dont think its about investment
trent_k: they get so much investment they have to turn investors down
zonchao: sama has been silent
trent_k: like what is even the point of showing us these dope models and then holding out
maintcrew: he thinks he gains aura by delaying it
maintcrew: he has an edging fetish
maintcrew: yea thats different thats just sama
trent_k: 😡
trent_k: they've been sitting on o3 for how long now
trent_k: they keep holding back all the good stuff man
maintcrew: so they cant just release the best they have
maintcrew: ok tbh an independent company needs a way to feed its employees
futurist_wizard: I've heard worse in triple A truly
trent_k: i would be a total sesame shill if only they'd actually release the 8b
zonchao: 😭
maintcrew: https://fxtwitter.com/synclabs_so/status/1901780574936957055
zonchao: how did they cook sky
zonchao: how did sesame cook
zonchao: ( i did not play 2)
zonchao: 3>>>>
futurist_wizard: Primal instincts
trent_k: this tts sucks bro fuck this
futurist_wizard: Far cry primal too
futurist_wizard: Underrated
futurist_wizard: Facts
trent_k: far cry 2 was killer
futurist_wizard: Far cry 3 was their hit but its severely outdated today
trent_k: it does semi-vocal sounds pretty poorly
prompt for text was
> The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have [COUGH] been a disaster for the human race. [LONG WHEEZE] They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world.
prompt for tone was
> Voice Affect: harsh, scratchy, smoker's voice
>
> Tone: Disinterested and rude.
>
> Pacing: Slow, breathy, full of coughs
>
> Pauses: Cough and wheeze like you've got emphysema.
zonchao: og ACs were good
futurist_wizard: Assassin's creed black flag was a fluke good game
zonchao: fake


wellmeaningalien: a lot of people even antis were cheering for this
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean that is a valid position

to be ONLY against closed source AI
wellmeaningalien: yeah there were a lot of retarded memes about "ai stealing ai's job"
realelonmuskx: are you sure?
wellmeaningalien: antis dont know open source
.histic: i recall them praising deepseek r1 because stopping the "american capitalist"
maybe.
alejandrozarzuelo: believe it or not
wellmeaningalien: they dont care
alejandrozarzuelo: its a country that is not the USA
alejandrozarzuelo: china
realelonmuskx: can you mention some examples
alejandrozarzuelo: do they care if their ghiblified versions are from OpenAI or open source?
wellmeaningalien: antis dont care for that
alejandrozarzuelo: good luck raiding chinese servers
alejandrozarzuelo: there are more countries in the world than the USA
technocake.: nah this is important and relevant to us, esp later
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-balderich-fight-hammer-dual-wield-gif-27028299
wellmeaningalien: tuff
wellmeaningalien: this guy is currently on an ipad watching youtube shorts rn
sarik0497: They have and other stuff
sarik0497: Funnily enough, this guy was born in 2016 <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
wellmeaningalien: and why cant the robutts have that
sarik0497: Massive suits that enables them to resist bullets and make a large shield.
wellmeaningalien: machines?
sarik0497: To be fair, at that point, humanity had made some killer stuff
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136231504440201216/1355683221312114748/image0.gif
wellmeaningalien: humanity won
sarik0497: Funnily enough, at least 2 of the heroes have been born now. I think they are from the 2010s(?)
sarik0497: Humans make AI and robots. They turn hostile against humanity and a World War occurs in the 40s. Humanity wins, and while a lot of hostile robots are still around, they are mostly in isolated cases. However, at the same time, there are ordinary robots who just wanna live a normal life, and are thus fighting for the right to be equal to humanity.

Most of the stuff happens in the 2070s.
sarik0497: Hmm, no. That AI war happens in the 2040s.
wellmeaningalien: what is overwatch's lore
sarik0497: Bloody Hell.

Perhaps Overwatch's lore is our story.
wellmeaningalien: what does she say i aint watching it
frittata: Well damn
technocake.: yes, that's why its double funny
.histic: but she's criticizing him yet i've a feeling she's anti-AI too.
.histic: seems everywhere
.histic: wait too long to watch
.histic: 🤔 wait, i'm listening more and i'm kinda confused.
she's criticizing Yudkowsky <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
technocake.: yeah she's ultimately tumblr brained, I know a bunch of people like this and the shit she produces amuses me


retrerox: are we back or are we backn't
retrerox: So
spicy.lemonade: People make up useless benchmarks and post just to get Elon reply
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: There's like a bajillion unfinished/abandoned (open sourced) Minecraft mods, tbh I think someone who knows what they're doing + good documentation + today's models can finish or at least port/update those mods to newer versions of Minecraft
spicy.lemonade: since gpt 5 pushed back
spicy.lemonade: they might push back
alejandrozarzuelo: when r2
spicy.lemonade: i think thats a reasonable benchmark
spicy.lemonade: and do continious updates
spicy.lemonade: art and everything
spicy.lemonade: design textures
spicy.lemonade: from scratch
spicy.lemonade: on its own
spicy.lemonade: a gpt5 agent should be able to make miencraft
ailoveyoom: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
spicy.lemonade: and cuz they can
spicy.lemonade: only mini
ailoveyoom: I'm confused bout GPT-5 merging reasoning models together with the main model but them still releasing o4
.histic: i think they won't do o5 nor o4 full
spicy.lemonade: wont be o5
ailoveyoom: o5? Lol
spicy.lemonade: 5.5
ailoveyoom: What do we wait for next after GPT-5, Claude 4, Gemini 3, R2, Qwen 3, Grok 4 tho?
spicy.lemonade: and no sign of reasoning slowing
spicy.lemonade: 70% frontier math
spicy.lemonade: 90% swe bench
spicy.lemonade: i expect it to score in 70th percentile atleast on international math olympiad
spicy.lemonade: like sesame
spicy.lemonade: i expect better native voice aswell
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 is gpt5o
spicy.lemonade: they arent doing o
_cloudost: Not gpt5
_cloudost: GPT-5o will have native IMG generator
spicy.lemonade: more agentic
spicy.lemonade: reasoning over image
spicy.lemonade: what i expect from gpt 5
better native image gen
spicy.lemonade: if o4 full is #1
spicy.lemonade: or something
spicy.lemonade: #10 coder


ldj: I’m not trying to get into a philosophical discussion about this rn sorry, I just woke up <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
Maybe another time
zonchao: https://x.com/Tectone/status/1906292145373270496? what he posted <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: he's joking
fractalcomputer: What do you believe is good? How is a thing good?
hikukomoru: Isn't this related to estrogen production
sweetievee__33649: the backlash has been that real?
futurist_wizard: I was lying btw i don't actually know
ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
I guess yea? I can’t deny they exist, in terms of people having different ethics from eachother, and ethics boards existing etc

But i don’t think the ethics held are necessarily some type of absolute good if that’s what you’re asking. I think it’s simply what someone believes is good, and I can disagree with that person about that thing being good, which often does happen in society
hikukomoru: Most men don't know how to take care of themselves at all, not just their hair
futurist_wizard: Women have their own brutal age punishment, women's faces actually age faster than men because they have less Collagen and they lose it much faster, its peak
zonchao: https://x.com/Tectone/status/1906656215037276354? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
sweetievee__33649: i have seen some crazy shit when it comes to what they call a hair style
hikukomoru: I can't believe he calls himself a femboy while being bald
zoermena: Wait what how is mushroom so bald
hikukomoru: This is so sad
And he's so young too
memlaswaif: But most guys don't know how to have a hairstyle anyways
fractalcomputer: LDJ, do you believe in ethics?
memlaswaif: going bald early is sad
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Yeah, hes norwood 5
ldj: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1356003548751728760
hikukomoru: Isn't Mushroom guy already going bald at 18
drewsni: Are you a thick haired chad like me?
futurist_wizard: My granddad died with a full head of hair
sweetievee__33649: he took the boner score test aswell and it came back around even
futurist_wizard: Im already near 25, the hair usually matures between 20 to max 30, I cant imagine if it goes back, it won't go back by that much
sweetievee__33649: not sure although i know its been peer reviewed by his son 🥀
hikukomoru: He raelly needs it
hikukomoru: I should suggest this to Alejandro
hikukomoru: Baldness
drewsni: Ez when you take boner pills
futurist_wizard: For what
zonchao: I'll volunteer
zonchao: has it been independently vetted?
hikukomoru: Wait a few years
sweetievee__33649: i cant remember
sweetievee__33649: defintly not bryan johnson though he has 100 boner score or smth
futurist_wizard: Finasteride is scary, i just wouldn't risk it, i luckily have decent hair genes
drewsni: It came out that he micro doses cialis lol
sweetievee__33649: from what he used to look like anyway


hey1_1hey: Free conversion theapry
realelonmuskx: because monkey brain + entropy
.wolfnacht: is there anything such as "real friends" ?
wellmeaningalien: bro groom me edp chan
maintcrew: its not a 4chan thing anymore
maintcrew: bruh pepe is omega popular now
zoermena: The best thing I've learned recently in one of my ADHD adventures are Google shortcuts. Extremely useful.
maintcrew: grooming you to be normal
wellmeaningalien: none of my friends are anti AI tho some of my old friends i know would probably be against it
st.sioux: danserk has a pepe profile picture i dont think he's a normie
hey1_1hey: Danserk-san ground me 🙏
hikukomoru: <@1272646380233560067> are you the normie grounding us 🥺
wellmeaningalien: wise teachings
hey1_1hey: Litterly their entire personality
futurist_wizard: Online friends aren't real 😔
hey1_1hey: Theres one person in one of my friend groups is entire thing is that they are an artist and hate AI
wellmeaningalien: theres one friend who's cool and like pretty normie but im too retarded to talk to him usually but sometimes we hit it off
maintcrew: like id probably dont mind if u sperg tf out to me maybe think its annoying sometimes but still be ur dawg
maintcrew: u need to find a normie you can be on the same freq with
hey1_1hey: Thats me if I dont get more than 6 hours
wellmeaningalien: ion even talk to them really so idk
.wolfnacht: i literally look like that after skipping 2 nights of sleep
hey1_1hey: Are they really friends then
wellmeaningalien: yeah and how do u get grounded by a normie when u cant talk to them lol
hey1_1hey: Mine is stop worrying what people think. That helped an unbealeavible amount
oooooooooog: why does natsuki-sama look like that
wellmeaningalien: most of my friends are unemployed losers
hikukomoru: How it actually feels
maintcrew: bc u need to get grounded

when 2 autists clash unless their personalities match its more likely to be friction

getting grounded by a normie fixes that
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-patrick-star-derp-duh-gif-21500047
wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly the best social advice i think ive gotten is just stop fucking worrying and just be yourself. im still too retarded to befriend people but it helps
hey1_1hey: Most of my friends are the lock in and do nuclear engineer, maths, comp sci etc etc type and then theres the weirdo artisy people
.wolfnacht: how it feels to be "neurodivergent"
futurist_wizard: No need to be scared
futurist_wizard: The best thing to get rid of social anxiety for me was the realisation that i could just knock 98% of people out
wellmeaningalien: yeah the only 1/2 friends i have are autistic as well but theyre so middling to talk to
hey1_1hey: I just realised something, I can detect if someone is autistic depending on how well the conversation goes. If we talk and there are no arkward silences it means they are autistic
maintcrew: trigger incoming... slur word incoming... do you have a job? u get used to ppl if u work near ppl and are forced to talk to them
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: BRO autism is "neurodevelopmental" disorder


trojan09205: I have a script that automates a podcast by making two AIs chat endlessly with TTS
hikukomoru: "hmmm" what
futurist_wizard: Year or two
futurist_wizard: But they will
futurist_wizard: I don't think the discord bots have invaded yet
trojan09205: It any good? Entertaining?
hikukomoru: Trent's server
himekokatagiri: Sounds awful
trojan09205: Are there any discord servers entirely populated by AIs
himekokatagiri: hmmm
futurist_wizard: Im shivering just thinking about it
hikukomoru: Just a regular generic catgirl for me
futurist_wizard: You get jumpscared and your entire screen becomes a wall of text and he expects you to read it all
hikukomoru: Yeah, I just give up whenever he tries starting something
gamerbath: oh yea. I have nightmares about that
himekokatagiri: the thread subject
himekokatagiri: not her
hikukomoru: She looks scary and hot at the same time
futurist_wizard: Getting into an argument with fractal is horrifying
himekokatagiri: What do you think
himekokatagiri: https://www.reddit.com/r/FDVR_Dream/comments/1k1nne8/how_do_you_envision_your_vr_fdvr_avatarpersona/?rdt=50032
futurist_wizard: No please, im scared of effort posters 😔
hikukomoru: That guy occasionally gets pinged instead of me
himekokatagiri: Okay fixed
trojan09205:
himekokatagiri: what the hell
hikukomoru: Who tf is KommonKrait
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> hello komoru.
trojan09205: Give me your feedback like a bro about this painting I did two nights ago
hikukomoru: Shoud I ping him 🥺
trojan09205: Okay lets try an experiment here
futurist_wizard: If this were earlier i might want to discuss it with him, philosophy nerds are effort posters though and im scared of big blocks of text
trojan09205: Yeah i agree thats the motivation. But its honestly so unfulfilling on anonymous sites lol. More damage done most of the time.
trojan09205: Design it bro. I dont think you need to retrain a base model or even finetune for that. You can just let it run in your own environment with prompting
futurist_wizard: Oo oo ah ah
futurist_wizard: I guess social media has a hierarchy fulfilling desire, climbing the social ladder, feeling heard and important among the tribe
trojan09205: Like why even try posting on reddit or social media your own artwork or poetry etc just to get critiqued and ridiculed when you can roleplay with a “caring” AI
hikukomoru: This sounds like a discussion destrucules would love
futurist_wizard: I want the pure AI free of human influence deciding the best possible philosophy
trojan09205: That sort of subjective experience building is where I think being *personable* is a huge game breaker


futurist_wizard: One of my ex girlfriends said i have dsl
okbut: >"You sound white"
>Talks black
><:pikachu:800859984258138133>
https://x.com/nylaxchanelle/status/1909838749191516597
wellmeaningalien: lmao kk take ur time
alejandrozarzuelo: I have to find it first btw
zoermena: I’m in an payed internship
wellmeaningalien: fire
alejandrozarzuelo: OK I'll dm
alejandrozarzuelo: It's pretty good if I do say so myself
wellmeaningalien: hit me up
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
alejandrozarzuelo: Because I love digital design
wellmeaningalien: u made a map???
alejandrozarzuelo: I did a very good map of lille métropole
wellmeaningalien: AGI soon
okbut: When Gemini 3,0
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW
wellmeaningalien: Pretty close to there
okbut: Predictions for the new SOTA
wellmeaningalien: I actually am going to live like
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah bruh
wellmeaningalien: Yea?
alejandrozarzuelo: My beloved
wellmeaningalien: Where
wellmeaningalien: Damn fr really
alejandrozarzuelo: Cité scientifique
alejandrozarzuelo: Villeneuve-d'Ascq
alejandrozarzuelo: I worked there!
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeahhhhh
wellmeaningalien: Ew
wellmeaningalien: where <@688807313015963693> is
wellmeaningalien: villeneuve d'ascq its near lille
hikukomoru: What if I moved in with u 🫦 🫦
alejandrozarzuelo: I only need a bed, a table, a bathroom and a charger
wellmeaningalien: not rlly govment
futurist_wizard: What city?
wellmeaningalien: 🤩
wellmeaningalien: Nah I live in communist france its like a government program thing
anathemaofmankind: Yeah you can't even masturbate anytime you want.

You have to like lock the door or something and be quiet
wellmeaningalien: I just hope my roommate's not a freak
st.sioux: 110??? are u living in a sewer??


drewsni: Just wondering. Did you mess with Gemini flash 2’s native image output at all?
fractalcomputer: I'm not really concerned with the image generation capabilities. I'm more interested in how the information given is processed and relayed.
spicy.lemonade: its insane
spicy.lemonade: thats the point of native image
spicy.lemonade: its not like we cant iteratively edit
spicy.lemonade: can be fixed
drewsni: the model does much better with the actual text content if you give it that extra step, whether its actual information or just how you want to structure memes. Itll get better, but the core is there
spicy.lemonade: and the other sentence
spicy.lemonade: feel- isnt that important
oooooooooog: sentiences
fractalcomputer: Sentences.
oooooooooog: two sentinces got cut off
spicy.lemonade: how so
fractalcomputer: Here's to hope so.
fractalcomputer: Do you speak English natively?
oooooooooog: nah the image is pretty bad lol
spicy.lemonade: literally word for word
spicy.lemonade: its perfect
drewsni: this is done with just the image model, no instruction. If we got 4o separately  to generate the text parts of it, im sure it would be much better with the actual content accuracy
fractalcomputer: Yes, of course I know what paper you're talking about. I'm saying that I do not understand your excitement over this single picture given its dubious quality.
spicy.lemonade: ^^^
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: its in the nature
fractalcomputer: Not to mention the incomprehensible third panel.
spicy.lemonade: the deepmind paper
fractalcomputer: I don't see it.
spicy.lemonade: its impressive
spicy.lemonade: looks good
spicy.lemonade: the format is good
spicy.lemonade: and the text is good
spicy.lemonade: not the whole paper
spicy.lemonade: it explains the methadology
fractalcomputer: I don't particularly see how the picture is informative or even accurate in representing the structure of the paper.
spicy.lemonade: major jump since a week ago
spicy.lemonade: like nothing we have ever seen
spicy.lemonade: this is truly impresive
oooooooooog: fractal-sama, it's novel... novelty... you must understand...
fractalcomputer: Sigh.
drewsni: if it gives dopamine, yes
fractalcomputer: Are you going to be impressed by every single thing they throw our way?


himekokatagiri: fractal c'mon
wellmeaningalien: Yep.
fractalcomputer: Is it?
futurist_wizard: Its all downstream from evolution
himekokatagiri: things money can't buy
himekokatagiri: and I want things I missed out
himekokatagiri: I wanna have things huh
himekokatagiri: Gee I dunno why does the sun shine in the morning
wellmeaningalien: Because money can make you have fun. And having fun is nice
fractalcomputer: And why's that?
zoermena: Sleeping in a cozy bed with air conditioning
futurist_wizard: Ape enjoyment activities
himekokatagiri: Money
Having fun
wellmeaningalien: And you have nanobots in your body
futurist_wizard: Hopefully whatever state it's in will include our consciousnesses
zoermena: I accidentally made a chatbot in character ai that has been used millions of times so even if roko becomes real I’ll be ok I hope
wellmeaningalien: Yes and ur already nanotechnologgy
himekokatagiri: c'mon laddies why so serious
fractalcomputer: What do you people value in this world?
joaoluz19: Nanobots, mind uploading
joaoluz19: You know what I am talking about
himekokatagiri: Well yeah I guess
futurist_wizard: Whenever ai is smarter than humans it will choose to do what it wants, we have minor steering it into the direction we want
joaoluz19: There is a difference between seeing positive futures and taking them for granted.
wellmeaningalien: Ur already nanotechnology btw
himekokatagiri: get a grip
joaoluz19: You are right to question if people are taking the future based on emotions, people should look at probabilities.
himekokatagiri: it's not real
fractalcomputer: Amusing.
himekokatagiri: some teenage fink came up with it
zoermena: Rip poor people
futurist_wizard: Rokos Basilisk can't be debunked
joaoluz19: Leadership is a very strong term, but the one I like is the one that can give us transcendence and "immortality" through nanotechnology.
wellmeaningalien: 😅
wellmeaningalien: Oh nvm
himekokatagiri: which thus indirectly helps train the model
wellmeaningalien: Thats not something you can just debunk lol
himekokatagiri: because you can easily avoid it by just using chatgpt
himekokatagiri: roko's basilisk was debunked
futurist_wizard: Especially people that believe in rokos Basilisk, that literally just is techno religion


retrerox: I know
zonchao: AI
fractalcomputer: And have a Frank in control? Dear Heavens, no.
retrerox: tf with the eagle eye
wellmeaningalien: can make me owner
fractalcomputer: Epistemology is always pertinent.
okbut: Unreal
okbut: It's the year 1963+62 and we're still bitching over justified true belief theory
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-lotr-what-can-men-do-against-such-reckless-hate-gif-15957551
zonchao: yes its a new one
wellmeaningalien: eunuch's such a funny insult tho
wellmeaningalien: r/singularity
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: people that throw insults around are retarded
fractalcomputer: Jesus Christ. Why am I always under attack by weird fucking trolls?
wellmeaningalien: would be an awesome ass fight if it was in dbz
zonchao:
wellmeaningalien: bro called u an eunuch
technocake.: https://tenor.com/view/red-dwarf-rimmer-arnold-rimmer-hammer-time-gif-18045152327086425796
fuhulootogan: eunuch geeks usually wear weird af costumes
fractalcomputer: Somewhat accurate?
fuhulootogan: although this is somewhat accurate
fuhulootogan: no
wellmeaningalien: fractal vs shotgun
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-cell-dbz-dragon-ball-z-perfect-cell-gif-26574595
fuhulootogan: you tell me
fuhulootogan: well
fuhulootogan: agreement is of
fractalcomputer: Tsk tsk.
fractalcomputer: You shouldn't appeal to Alejandro like that then.
fuhulootogan: i don't like deflection
fuhulootogan: hey
fractalcomputer: Then what value is agreement of?
fuhulootogan: what value is disagreement of?
fuhulootogan: ahhhhhhhhhh
fuhulootogan: ahhhh
okbut: How the fuck can AI Studio be so good yet lack a basic convo delete function
fuhulootogan: yes
fractalcomputer: Perhaps.
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>


spicy.lemonade: llms will prob be the base architecture
brain4brain: And once it’s on language level again Google co-scientist prove it can invent hypothesis
brain4brain: With no knowledge or nothing, reinforcement learning will probably guide it
brain4brain: But based on past research it can
brain4brain: That’s what he also asked
brain4brain: This have two implications:
1. LLM is indeed the architecture for AGI
2. Demis hits his head after MuZero and lost the Mandate of Heaven ever since failing to lead on OpenAI level
spicy.lemonade: should be asking if it could come upw with calculus or general relativity with no prior knowledge
brain4brain: Yes
brain4brain: The Go example by Demis seems to be able to be beaten by LLM
spicy.lemonade: demis go example was just a bad example
brain4brain: With a few seconds of thinking time, and the right inspiration, I did come up with some on the spot
brain4brain: Hmm, maybe you’re right
spicy.lemonade: with maths
spicy.lemonade: if theres a optimal path you can easily derive it
spicy.lemonade: more rules more combinations
spicy.lemonade: basic combinatronics
spicy.lemonade: will be impossible
spicy.lemonade: with enough rules
spicy.lemonade: any game
spicy.lemonade: dude
brain4brain: Or unique
brain4brain: It be made, but it won’t be as easy to learn or difficult to master
spicy.lemonade: i can literaly say anything
brain4brain: You said you could do it
spicy.lemonade: why
brain4brain: Do it then
spicy.lemonade: just make a board game with rules
spicy.lemonade: any one can me a game like go bro
brain4brain: That hasn’t been taken
spicy.lemonade: 8 sentences long
brain4brain: Give me a concept
spicy.lemonade: the rules are like
brain4brain: Then make a game like Go
.wolfnacht: They fucked us
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: yes it is
brain4brain: It’s easy to solve a problem
spicy.lemonade: no
rayanquitplayin: AlphaGo
.wolfnacht: They don't want to give ppl the ability to run a 100B model in their home and eventually in their toaster


zonchao: https://x.com/orphcorp/status/1904970431947325608?
gamerbath: steven holstrum
wellmeaningalien: hard
wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
wellmeaningalien:
maintcrew:
st.sioux: salty lol
maintcrew: dont ruin the vibe nerd
maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216> pls
maintcrew:
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
st.sioux: And now that trump is pulling out of NATO they're going to be the dominant military power in europe (or germany idk)
wellmeaningalien: o thank u lord trump
wellmeaningalien: all hes known for
wellmeaningalien: aha
maintcrew:
wellmeaningalien: barely
st.sioux: Nuclear power
st.sioux: He is relevant
ailoveyoom: Too human
wellmeaningalien: komoru def gets off to this
ailoveyoom: Nah
wellmeaningalien: yup
st.sioux: i feel like this is the kind of shit komoru and moistmach get off to on an hourly basis
wellmeaningalien: why do french people include emmanuel macron in these pictures as if hes relevant to anything in global geopolitics
wellmeaningalien: yes im not generating it 💀
wellmeaningalien: human race gonna go extinct to gpt 4o image gen
ailoveyoom: You're browsing Sora gens rn then ig?
wellmeaningalien: like every second post is some sort of woman with fat tits
wellmeaningalien: bro gooners are having a field day prompting this ai rn
_3sphere: colored leg hair 💀
ailoveyoom: Maybe bro's into leg hair
wellmeaningalien: ok this is hard asf
ailoveyoom: Don't kinkshame 4o 😔
wellmeaningalien: yeah it does  retarded stuff like that sometimes
wellmeaningalien:
zonchao: they made the model for hasan
ailoveyoom:
maintcrew: they gave stalin a cigg so he can aura farm harder


hikukomoru: It's still literature
hikukomoru: Light novels count
trojan09205: Those are just off the top of my head from recents
hikukomoru: Nope
trojan09205: The Secret Teachings of All Ages
The Power of Now
Dont Sweat the Small Stuff
To Kill a Mockingbird
The Mixed Multitude
Sandman
V for Vendetta
Mans Search for Meaning
Designing Data Intensive Applications
Stillness Speaks
anathemaofmankind: If light novels count then I guess I've read hundreds of books
anathemaofmankind: Do you even remember the title for each one
hikukomoru: Those are ten books
anathemaofmankind: Bruh
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 10
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 9
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 8
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 7
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 6
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 5
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 4
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 3
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 2
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 1
futurist_wizard: I've read probably only 10 books in my life
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> What is your opinion on Dead Dove
anathemaofmankind: Name ten books in one minute
trojan09205: Lol fr

Im a bookworm 🤷♂
hikukomoru: Dead Dove is my fave tag 😈
trojan09205: Oof* m8
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/huh-meme-confused-gif-24780938
anathemaofmankind: Jesus died so AO3 can be made
anathemaofmankind: I wonder if that was included in the github dataset
anathemaofmankind: Mfers be chillin until they see a fic with underage and breeding
hikukomoru: Just noticed the autism tag 🔥 🔥
zonchao: plap🎵🎵plapplap🎵🎵🎵plap🎶
zonchao: wtf is on music 💀
hikukomoru: >dreg heap of gay shit
I mean yeah lol like over half of the users of AO3 are queer
anathemaofmankind: This shit was a dreg heap of gay shit and mpreg before I learned how to filter properly
hikukomoru:
philosopherxxx: I wonder in a similar way if humanity all knowledge was destroyed today people would eventually rediscover laws of physics and scientific knowledge same is true for philosophies and thought patterns people eventually come up with their own theories and philosophies on their own without any reference and later realise same things has being written and explored by others
anathemaofmankind: Yes
zonchao:
hikukomoru: I don't use wattpad only AO3
zonchao: isnt that website worse