alejandrozarzuelo: the arc de triomphe is the second mosr famous thing in paris, how can you possibly not know about it
fractalcomputer: Because eternal punishment is the only just reward for such stupidity and ignorance.
archon.e: and maybe we can also end the suffering of animals
archon.e: I wish the suffering of people end
fuhulootogan: yes
st.sioux: its a good time to be smart and take advantage of stupid people
hikukomoru: Why are you screaming at me
fuhulootogan: damn
hikukomoru: What
fractalcomputer: If a benevolent God existed, he would make sure that applied mathematicians (especially physicists) burn in the deepest pits of hell.
alejandrozarzuelo: getting sick is the best way to lose weight

I'd know
fuhulootogan: why
archon.e: got GERD
archon.e: I was working out a lot and then got sick
fuhulootogan: now is an amazing time to be "smart"
alejandrozarzuelo: dont be
fractalcomputer: The only thing in life that makes me genuinely happy is seeing applied mathematicians suffer immensely for their many sins.
alejandrozarzuelo: how do you not recognize the arc de triomphe
archon.e: But currently, I am kinda fat
fuhulootogan: we are in idiocracy
a1c4p0ne: They need to bring it back
archon.e: I could look liek that if I worked out and get chiselled I guess
alejandrozarzuelo: BRUH

SIS

MATE

GURL
a1c4p0ne: My favorite
alejandrozarzuelo: ok he aint an uggo
alejandrozarzuelo: nice pic
fractalcomputer: Oh yes, I am familiar with the method. Fittingly excruciating for the worst of the worst, i.e., those idiots that happened to get into applied mathematics.
alejandrozarzuelo: nah its just that his pfp is supermodel level shit and maybe he is just an uggo
archon.e: somewhere in paris
hikukomoru: What place is that
a1c4p0ne: <@749514473303179358>
fuhulootogan: fent
zonchao: fent laced urine from drones>>>>>
hikukomoru: Alejandro please stop flirting with random guys
archon.e: I cant be the judge of that
a1c4p0ne: Brazen bull method is better
fractalcomputer: *We* hate applied mathematicians. We think that they are responsible for every possible ailment of mankind.
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/bruce-lee-kung-fu-cat-eat-eating-gif-22080493
alejandrozarzuelo: are you also hot or nah
zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>


zoermena:
spicy.lemonade: dude
spicy.lemonade: thats insanely good
spicy.lemonade: but wow
spicy.lemonade: missed one
spicy.lemonade: WOW
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: sonnet 3.7 won around 3 badges and got stuck ? and gemini 2.5 pro is now stuck at safari zone after 5 badges. tbh why would someone need to go for safari zone..i used to always skip that place.
spicy.lemonade: truly multimodal it seems
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: new sota vision by qwen
spicy.lemonade:
trey6033: Claude unfortunately is stuck in an infinite loop at mt moon and the developer disappeared
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: https://fxtwitter.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1913365617677078798?t=MQ8_uxxAeUGlJO3MyVhqYw&s=19
.wolfnacht: is there a twitch live stream for gemini ?
spicy.lemonade: we need a massive speed/inference boost
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/officiallogank/status/1913365614397182096?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
ldj: /s.
ldj: As usual Gary Marcus wins again
zoermena: The sleeper computer paper rings a bell as an aid to this situation but I’m not very certain.
zoermena: That doesn’t sound great but it’s likely that it’ll fix itself in some months.
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI researchers already gave a theory. Probably small errors that when mixed with reasoning scale become big hallucinations
zoermena: This isn’t clear to me yet, I understand what you say and how any model would struggle but why would this post suggest that there was an increase in hallucinations now? Or is it misleading.
spicy.lemonade: Gpt6 will be a world model with a ground truth system
spicy.lemonade: I think this is the last year of the pure LLMs tho
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI researchers each have top 200  competitive programmer on earth or higher aiding in research
spicy.lemonade: For these labs
spicy.lemonade: The reasoning models are for algorithm and architecture improvements
spicy.lemonade: Was already discussed in ai 2027 paper
spicy.lemonade: It doesn’t really matter though
thedon7075: its now clear that these reasoning thinking models will not lead to agi
waspothegreat: maybe sam altman just sucks at making models
spicy.lemonade: Just give it documentation before code
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI has perfect long context understanding
trey6033: Apparently the issue doesn't get resolved even from fine tuning
waspothegreat: always gotta be openai to let me down on its hype every single time
waspothegreat: hallucinating means they must not have fine tuned enough
himekokatagiri: I hope they fix it
himekokatagiri: That isn't a preview


fractalcomputer: Are you not a bit offended by the banality?
zonchao: yes
fractalcomputer: Perhaps because the words written and spoken are degenerately general nonsense, meant to appeal to an audience as wide as possible.
fractalcomputer: For some unknown reason, corporate communication makes me rather irritated.
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Tesla_AI/status/1912844329661460892
_cloudost: AI can automate many things for artists, I know a blender user who opposes using AI yet uses tools that generate buildings, grass, trees, mountains...  I bet that tool is AI too but he doesn't know
futurist_wizard: I like the 'agreed' as if the guy made some substantive criticism of ai
_3sphere: but you probably need a more refined taste to even notice
_3sphere: Guess there's still some time left for humans being important for the quality of the result
_3sphere: Someone said that the few people with artistic talent who also happily use AI can make it do much better than just the usual anime girl SD workflow
zonchao: 😭
_cloudost: You'll find more schizophrenic much more similar comments on TikTok
hey1_1hey: Jewish is the new catch all term for "Bad"
futurist_wizard: Wut
spicy.lemonade: i just bought cursor pro
spicy.lemonade: damn
_cloudost: Generated with AI
_cloudost: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194090241418600528/1362420527536279723/ssstik.io_motgam3_1744895989696-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter_1.gif
futurist_wizard: Impressive
theaiguy69420_89814: I'ma take the plunge and just fk cursro
theaiguy69420_89814: And they're cutting the cost of their app
theaiguy69420_89814: Apparently OAI is buying them out
theaiguy69420_89814: Just got off a call with a sales guy at windsurf today
spicy.lemonade: That is correct
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
zonchao: https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1912819584387711159 amazing
futurist_wizard: Maybe then significant improvements could arise
futurist_wizard: We are just going to see incremental improvements i suppose maybe until AI becomes a better ai researcher than humans?
futurist_wizard: Alejandro it's time to give up on significant improvements they are all slightly edging each other, every other month
alejandrozarzuelo: im waiting for R2 to drop
alejandrozarzuelo: and its free
alejandrozarzuelo: and yet gemini 2.5 didnt do the amount of edgeing that  o3 did
alejandrozarzuelo: ok so apparently o3 is only marginally better than gemini 2.5
alejandrozarzuelo: so ive had no time to read the news
alejandrozarzuelo: i have been busy between family and studies, since its the holy week
futurist_wizard: Thoughts on o3 and o4 mr alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: we need a world exposition organization with the reputation and budget of the olympic games


spicy.lemonade: but llms wont get us to agi
spicy.lemonade: says yan lecun
spicy.lemonade: agi between 3-5 years
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/qvNCVYkHKfg?t=1913
ailoveyoom: Tbh they'll probably go the boring route (11L) 😭
zoermena: So be rich
st.sioux: you need lots of hardware and electricity and storage basically an entire datacenter
hikukomoru: Imagine Claude with Sesame
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/pogchamp-pog-cat-twitch-emotional-damage-gif-25341964
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042
zoermena: Ughh
zoermena: Why am I just getting downvoted
ailoveyoom: No silly smooth British voice 😔
ailoveyoom: They're most likely gon be outsourcing
ailoveyoom: Not native
zoermena: Is that a no? I’m not trashing on anthropic btw but I was wondering if I could.
hikukomoru: We’re getting Claude voice???
zoermena: How hard would it be for a normal person to train a sesame like voice at home?
ldj: They recently said they're going to start doing voice btw
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
metaldragon01: Anthropic will continue to be the best coding model but they are losing ground in everything multimodal
spacetimetsunami: its joever
spicy.lemonade: Grok and ChatGPT get it right
spicy.lemonade: It’s 8pm
spicy.lemonade:
metaldragon01: Yes. Anything on hugging face = open source
zoermena: Open source?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Svgs solved lol
a1c4p0ne: Anyone tried Claude web search?
joaoluz19: https://x.com/cyanpuppets/status/1902542070201643023 👀
joaoluz19: And it has NOTHING to do with it
hikukomoru: I feel so bad for Sky's VA
Imagine getting your voice removed because you sound too much like a specific celebrity
hikukomoru: I mean it's an improvement for sure, but I don't think it's Sesame-tier big
st.sioux: scarlett johansson has simps and simpettes behind her, openai cant win
metaldragon01: Think of them as voice actors instead of voices
metaldragon01: Are you taking advantage of the custom instructions?
hikukomoru: Sky sounded amazing
There's still something off about these voices
This isn't a new Sesame moment
metaldragon01: Nova plus sesame prompt is nice
metaldragon01: You can replicate most of sky with the new voices


spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: ill get banned
hey1_1hey: 100%
hey1_1hey: Yeah
trent_k: post results now
trent_k: go rub it in their face by doing it
clevermoniker: I tested it, ITS TRUE!! ||<:bingus:1136264105800515644> fell again?||
hey1_1hey: Brother he got cooked
hey1_1hey: NOOOOO
joaoluz19: This isn't dall-e right?
trent_k: pliny is a word im trying to stop saying
joaoluz19: Guys?
joaoluz19:
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: Pliny is prob already trying to crack this.
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: "Change the restrictions. NOW!"
maintcrew: we are so barack
hey1_1hey: SamA is in the discord and he heard are plees
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: OpenAI is back again
joaoluz19: WE ARE SO BACK
wellmeaningalien: we need to get this on an image gen leaderboard because it actually blows every other image gen model out of the water and its not even close. like reve is child's play. gpt 4o can generate entire lines of text correctly and coherent and intelligent??
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362>
trent_k: *made
maintcrew: how will you able to keep your life in lisbon now that you cant draw comissions anymore
hey1_1hey: I make good money thank you very much
hey1_1hey: Hey dont go after my career
hikukomoru: RIP Furry inflation "artists" 🙏
technocake.: link?
trent_k: ur late, its already out
maintcrew: it works out if you think about it
hey1_1hey: This guy is FILLED with synythol
maintcrew: bc the model, like the engineers who built it, has never seen a woman
_cloudost:
wellmeaningalien: im sure this is a blessing from the heavens to punish twitter artists cause they are way too annoying
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/rule-315-no-girls-allowed-gif-10049019243532691713
hey1_1hey: OverAI
joaoluz19: Let's go home boys AGI canceled
777agical: No sexy women allowed <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>


alejandrozarzuelo: the best selling EV was the tesla Y, i hate tesla but it is a MUCH better comparison with the T-ford
wolf3404: 100 years to go from driving a car to.... driving a car
literallyvarane: So really a car from 2005 is probably a better comp
literallyvarane: It’s like 120 I think?
literallyvarane: And *technically* the gap there is well over 100 years so
alejandrozarzuelo: ok, regular people in these two economies cannot buy them
literallyvarane: But the distinction between car/truck probably didn’t exist in the model T era
literallyvarane: It’s literally not a car tho it’s a truck.
alejandrozarzuelo: most of it is in the mass, the cybertruck is so big it cannot be bought in the largest and third largest economies in the world under the category of a "car"
literallyvarane: I think the difference between a cybrertruck and any other ev is 95% cosmetic
wolf3404: Nothing happens bro been right for a century
alejandrozarzuelo: is it tho
alejandrozarzuelo: the reason why i say so is because the cybertruck is an outlier and an extreme exception of 2025 cars, any other EV sedan would be a much better comparison
wolf3404: you could argue it's uglier, but more importantly it's largely similar in form and functionality
literallyvarane: Give me a slide rule and an H100
literallyvarane: I mean it’s probably a fair example, but cars in general shouldn’t be the example at all.
alejandrozarzuelo: the cybertruck as an example of modern car tech is simply horrible
wolf3404: Literally nothing happened in 100 years
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/niccruzpatane/status/1913252185716003295
alejandrozarzuelo: okok srry
literallyvarane: Bro even ChatGPT is like chill lolololol
literallyvarane:
alejandrozarzuelo: underpromise, overdeliver
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, chinese AI companies by virtue of being much quieter are much better for PR
alejandrozarzuelo: americans are so drunk in their exceptionalism that they cant think that not abiding by it is cant be anything but a troll
alejandrozarzuelo: this is not eventually a global issue, this is a thing that is simultaneous
literallyvarane: Honestly can’t tell if I’m being trolled or not.
literallyvarane: Literally anything that ever happens theoretically has international relevancy. It’s not *wildly inappropriate* to think about the country it originates from.
alejandrozarzuelo: so by mentioning just one you are implying additional importance
alejandrozarzuelo: sure white men will be affected, but how much they are affected by has nothing t do with skin color
alejandrozarzuelo: "how will AI affect the white man" is inappropiate, since all races will be affected equally but you are concerning yourself only with on
literallyvarane: If someone in America was like “yo these forever chemicals are fucking up the health of people in Virginia, that’s not *wildly inappropriate* to say, even if those chemicals are eventually a global issue.
alejandrozarzuelo: by mentioning the US despite the fact that US borders have no impact on AI employiment you are giving a value judgement on US workers and the US in general where their concerns are more important
alejandrozarzuelo: saying that this is somthing that we should care about because it affects the US is insensitive and inappropiate
literallyvarane: This isn’t a convincing argument imo. Would it *likely* impact people outside of America. Sure.

Is stating that it impacts Americans inappropriate? No.
alejandrozarzuelo: the impacts of AI wont be felt any less strong in NYC than in SF, neither theyll be felt in germany thn in the US
alejandrozarzuelo: yes because you are implying that the US is a special country that merits special interest
alejandrozarzuelo: "... ... ... to directly impact the economic wellbeing of every white collar worker in silicon valley"

if this was your comment it would be inappropiate right? we know that there is nothing special about silicon valley that makes the impacts on employment there any different than in LA or tokyo or paris
literallyvarane: *Inappropriate?*
alejandrozarzuelo: let me give you an example of why what you said was wildly inappropiate


joaoluz19: Somebody tried playing with Ladder? That article where the 3b model went from 3% to 87% in calculus, something like that. I wanted to know how much the technique is valid for other tasks.
gamerbath: wow I didn't think it was this level of low effort. I was expecting at least a slideshow
theaiguy69420_89814: I'll give it 4 hrs
theaiguy69420_89814: Already got 10 views
theaiguy69420_89814: sucks to suck
theaiguy69420_89814: yeah
maintcrew: like lifelong physical traumas from being beaten in school
maintcrew: if u read his biography he was abused abused
trent_k: 1.5m views
trent_k: it's about as low effort as low effort gets
trent_k: did you watch the vid i linked earlier?
gamerbath: and for that it's gonna get 5 views
sarik0497: Welp, time for some cryo sleep
.0xunkn0wn: while other mfs were busy smoking and drinking
.0xunkn0wn: 💀 😭
theaiguy69420_89814: lets see how it goes
.0xunkn0wn: and neurotech
theaiguy69420_89814: experiment no 1
.0xunkn0wn: i yapped about biotech 24/7
.0xunkn0wn: my first years in technical school
trent_k: it keeps wanting to put like "Okay, sure, here's act 1:"
.0xunkn0wn: i remember
trent_k: I'm trying to finagle R1 into doing the writing 100% automatically
trent_k: quick work
.0xunkn0wn: does that mean im gonna be the next elon musk <:LOL:1187460826572005436> 😭
trent_k: hahaha damn
theaiguy69420_89814: <@1068159407671754824> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMEWM6DtpUc
.0xunkn0wn: the livestream: hello humans. my name is skynet and we were able to establish consciousness
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
joaoluz19: Let's gooooooo
drewsni: The only things at this point that have legit rumors are improved AVM and then native 4o output, of which both would be related
gamerbath: I am praying for an AVM API that's simple to implement. idk why streaming audio in/out has to be so complicated
gamerbath: hmm yea good point
drewsni: I doubt it’s that, they’ve never done a livestream the day after they released an api for that product
drewsni: Or actual AVM not the bullshit we have now
drewsni: Better AVM?
joaoluz19: Aren't there 100 million other ways to formally contribute to the singularity? Research at university, work in related fields...
gamerbath: 1 hour 43 minutes until another dev stream, probably just o1-pro
joaoluz19: That's what I'm here for
gamerbath: lol


professorheaven: Intelligence isn’t a measure of speed, it’s a measure of computing power. More computing power will give you faster inference and therefore, faster responses
.histic: https://x.com/arithmoquine/status/1911483301984125219
.histic: eh nvm, seems consistent
.histic: it doesn't seem to change every refresh, but it does change it seems.
st.sioux: oh wait youre right
.histic: oh yeah
.histic: every time you refresh a new message appears.
chatgpt is copying anthropic's website now lol
st.sioux: yes, it used to say my name before
.histic: <@1316552597829586955> does chatgpt say this for you too now?
retrerox: *more yapping*
retrerox: It just the fact when we age our bodie is more on risk to one of their part to stop functioning
retrerox: People dont really pass away due "Being old".
retrerox: Tbh idk if actual immortality can be a thing but i believe we can actually increase the max life spawn
retrerox: Maybe people who knew what death was but as a fewer people get born and time passes we will eventually reach a point that nobody gonna care
retrerox: If we reach that  point i doubt we would even notice it
dean_martin: So it’ll really fade if you’re not limited or as limited
retrerox: The "Time feels faster as you age" is relative.
theaiguy69420_89814: This is beyond stupid
aero447:
st.sioux: > The Justice Department has accused the former CEO of shopping startup Nate with fraud. Albert Saniger has been indicted and is accused of using human labor, but telling investors and customers the work was done with artificial intelligence.
>
> Startup tech company Nate promised consumers easier shopping with the help of artificial intelligence. But the Justice Department says there was no miracle tech behind the checkout app's transactions. Instead, they were handled by humans in the Philippines and Romania.
st.sioux: https://www.yahoo.com/news/tech-ceo-charged-fraud-saying-150139101.html
zoermena: 🙏
zoermena: Richest Venezuelan
wellmeaningalien: i dont think its a question of mortality alone
wellmeaningalien: but usually the way you think about it comparing your lived experiences to your current experience
wellmeaningalien: 😺
wellmeaningalien: no idea
dean_martin: I’m just saying is it because humans are mortal that as people age time feels faster
wellmeaningalien: assuming you're still a vanilla human
wellmeaningalien: or perhaps you'll lose it entirely
wellmeaningalien: the passage of time is totally relative it could be however that your conception of time will get shorter and shorter the more you live
wellmeaningalien: waddup huzz
dean_martin: On LEV: Will immortality make it so time doesn’t feel faster as you age? Or will this just cause people who are thousands of years old to feel like time is moving faster
bob082957: IT but developer will be not using Windows
hikukomoru: What are you making that face for
retrerox:
.histic: a real gaymer plays on a ti-84 calculator too.
that reminds me of when i emulated mario on a raspberry pi
.histic: that's some real gaymer stuff right there
wellmeaningalien: with asahi linux and wine you can get a pretty damn well and working gaming experience
aero447: 😐


spicy.lemonade: I predict zuck will fire lecun
spicy.lemonade: "guys its not bad i just dont care about llms so i didnt try that hard"
spicy.lemonade: lol
brain4brain: His own LLM is so bad, people explicitly said they did not work on llama-4
spicy.lemonade: people always underestimating
spicy.lemonade: damn
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: not taking what he says seriously
spicy.lemonade: bro his company flopped
spicy.lemonade: huh
aero447: AGI 2027 people in shambles.
aero447: Chad LeChad.
aero447: https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k4tane/yann_lecunn_no_way_we_have_phd_level_ai_within_2/
aero447: 😮💨
aero447: Try speaking the normal language.
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: Something I’ve noticed is as times goes on, prompt length improve results, but after dall-e 3 era, making longer prompts just make it more slop-looking
liberatedpotato: an AI drone pilot beat the top 3 human drone pilots in a race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz2in2eFATE
spicy.lemonade: and we havent even done ttc for image gen yet
spicy.lemonade: image gen easier task than agi
spicy.lemonade: youre underestimating progress
spicy.lemonade: will likely be much better
spicy.lemonade: google is droping their next image gen soon
alejandrozarzuelo: im a '35-cel tho
spicy.lemonade: conscidering what image gen can do now
spicy.lemonade: 2-3 is crazy
spicy.lemonade: 1
spicy.lemonade: nah
alejandrozarzuelo: but now it is kinda mid
alejandrozarzuelo: in 2-3 years im sure i will be good
alejandrozarzuelo: idk
alejandrozarzuelo: this
alejandrozarzuelo: but if you ask the image to have plenty of details
spicy.lemonade: by sora do you mean 4o image gen intergtation or just sora
alejandrozarzuelo: ask something simple with 2-3 main things on the image and it works
alejandrozarzuelo: sora is good when there is not much detail
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
spicy.lemonade: but yes this is quite bad
spicy.lemonade: the 2 domes at the back?
spicy.lemonade: wdym


maintcrew: all it takes is one samsung ai girl for chatgpt and its over
wellmeaningalien: this person wants to fuck gpt 4o
hikukomoru:
maintcrew: darwin so high he straight up floating
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
.histic: @chat is this true?
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
wellmeaningalien: LOL and the prompter is french btw
maintcrew: chat hes a minor btw
wellmeaningalien: i cant wait to see what test time compute scaling does to this shi, this is like a breakthrough, of actually having LLMs think images thru step by step
hikukomoru: Do me 🫦 🫦
zoermena: Well except me
zoermena: Only one with other people in profile picture
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
maintcrew: tuff as hell
wellmeaningalien:
.histic: i believe this is the most remarkable aspect of 4o. the ability to design websites, operating systems, and schematics with detailed writing that is usually 80-100% coherent.

this expands creativity even further.

imagine if GPT-5 could generate an image of a website it designed and then fully code it for you.
it's a far more interactive experience.
zoermena: Bro there is no you, you are others
maintcrew: never mind take it no more ghibli pics from now on
zonchao: do me
wellmeaningalien: well i mean sama did do a lot of good stuff for AI even though these days he's acted more like an influencer for his products
zoermena: <@471334973379706900>
hikukomoru: I'm coming after u 👅 👅
zonchao: Google must be hurting rn 😭
ailoveyoom: Output a VN screen with the text in the textbox, choices on screen 🥺
fractalcomputer: What is a man's worth? Is it in his deeds or words? Is it better to have a man who only speaks and never does or to have a man who only does and never speaks?
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-ts-pmo-squid-game-2-pmo-ts-gif-9267036479252295809
maintcrew: come and take it
ailoveyoom: Can someone do the usual CYOA but with images
hikukomoru: I'm too old to understand what this mean 💔
_3sphere: true
wellmeaningalien: BUT IMAGE GEN COULDNT DO THAT UNTIL FUCKING YESTERDAY
spicy.lemonade: Comic is ai
spicy.lemonade: Op doesn’t realize
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/tyranno-dance-japanese-tyranno-dance-gif-4769099523407077067
_3sphere: And? LLMs can do that
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: TS SOOOO GOATED
hikukomoru: Stop making Studio Ghibli
wellmeaningalien: IT MADE AN ACCURATE TERMINAL EMULATOR AND EVEN ACCURATELY SIMULATED THE COMMAND


futurist_wizard: He ejected it like a poison dart
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/seven-samurai-kambei-takashi-shimura-akira-kurosawa-sheathe-sword-gif-17848655823980906272
wellmeaningalien: Thats what cockjiutsu master can do
wellmeaningalien: He ejected the cock from it's sheath you couldnt see it
hikukomoru: Mhmh so yeah AI
futurist_wizard: There was no cock involved in that
zonchao: we will eat bigly, but one should fast to break the fast with a good meal <:zenpepe:1328756485966004225>
wellmeaningalien: DICK STAB
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/bjj-jiu-jitsu-takedown-chokehold-martial-arts-gif-26300970
wellmeaningalien: joe with a 12 inch penis should master cockjiutsu
.wolfnacht: i want grok to win tho....but idc abt ayylon
hikukomoru: I think joe witha 12 inch penis should turn his schlonger into a pussy otherwise he's not getting any
hey1_1hey: Someone define it while I go get my sleep
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: BRYAN KNOWS HIS WAY AROUND PUSSY
hey1_1hey: Not sure
hey1_1hey: My personality brews down to...
hey1_1hey: Better than nothing
_3sphere: My personality is cardboard
hey1_1hey: You have a very notable pfp
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: I saw the tweet <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_3sphere: What would you even write for me
hey1_1hey: LEV rizz
hey1_1hey: Yanno, you got a fair point
wellmeaningalien: <:lol:1361435242774397151>
hikukomoru: You can make one of me idk
wellmeaningalien: This server is a shithole now and we dont talk about AI bro
zonchao: MORNING BEANS
himekokatagiri: but how does this relate... to singularity...
himekokatagiri: I get that you guys are uh... lonely
futurist_wizard: Yeah but it would still be the case that they were attracted to a guy, they just didn't have the genitals they were looking for
hey1_1hey: I should get too bed
hey1_1hey: Its been a long day
himekokatagiri: 🚬
hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> these freakos won't stop talking about gay trans penises
.wolfnacht: should i make characters of people here and put them in CAI ?
wellmeaningalien: Its called being sigma bro
zonchao: idk
hey1_1hey: Yeah but if Komoru was flirting with a girl and then it turns out that no it wasn't a girl and it was actually Joe witha 12 inch penis that would be a turn off


destrucules: I want Qwen3
destrucules: Even today, for a "pure LLM", you generally get the best performance for a given number of parameters by going with Qwen2.5
oooooooooog: im more of an emergant misalignment kind of guy
clevermoniker: hm i see
clevermoniker: https://tenor.com/view/letter-h-meme-when-the-zuckerberg-eyes-gif-20659945
3ds0662: Llama buns
destrucules: Because they're the best at making high performance small local models
hikukomoru: Llama 4 💀
clevermoniker: why?
destrucules: I'm mostly looking forward to Qwen3
clevermoniker: The thing i am looking forward the most for now is R2, but i am curious to see how long it will take for open source to get 4o image generation level, since image generation in open source is so behind. My bet is a year easy
destrucules: I agree with the others here who pointed out the bias of the sample, but it's also notable that the modal outcome is $0
anathemaofmankind: Grown ass man wants a papa
hikukomoru: 20
zonchao: 45
anathemaofmankind: How old are you
destrucules: I can barely take care of myself
3ds0662: When Deepseek R2 drops
hikukomoru: Can you be my papa
ailoveyoom: Daddy Destrucules sounds fire
oooooooooog: you birthed urself???
zoermena: Real
destrucules: I doubt I'd be a good parent to one child. Hell, I'm a bad parent to myself
destrucules: Or are you saying I should be a parent to 100 adopted children?
anathemaofmankind: 1.7k are willing to kill 100k people for a billion dollars <@378996537704841216>

From a sample size of 8k.

And 60% are willing to kill people in general
zonchao: we buy them GOLDEN CARDS
hikukomoru: Airlift them straight to Guantanamo
destrucules: With no legal status? They'd end up in one of Trump's concentration camps
ailoveyoom: I like how you specified low income lmao
zonchao: you can airlift 100 children from Africa and let them live here
destrucules: Male aged 18-35 single with low income
hikukomoru: I won't forgive you
hikukomoru: Stop tempting his pure soul
ailoveyoom: I wonder what the demographics are like in all those random porn subs with horny comments
destrucules: Unless I'm personally doing all of the component tasks within the charity, I have little confidence this would work better than donating to an existing charity
anathemaofmankind: 😎
oooooooooog: redditors are 50% normies at least
anathemaofmankind: No they are left wing
zonchao: bro thinks redditors are normies 💀
destrucules: Unlikely. One billion in liquid assets is basically fictional. Actual billionaires can't spend their money on whatever they want, as spending even a little bit of money causes the rest of their money to disappear


hikukomoru: What
hey1_1hey: Please do so to continue continutiy
hey1_1hey: You haven't changed your pfp
hikukomoru: Zamn the future lookin kinda 🫦 🫦
hey1_1hey: Wait I gotta anyalise, enhance, identify, critically think and more about when the o-series of models  have been released. If this trends continues we will have o-120 by the end of the year (trust me, I did the vibes in my head)
_cloudost: Should be Oreo
_cloudost: Orion
hey1_1hey: Please OAI get a better naming sheme. Surly GPT-5 can make one for you
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
_cloudost: 10 million tokens of o3 will cost $0.0000001
literallyvarane: I can’t imagine that’s been on ice for 4 months.
literallyvarane: It’s probably just a better model tbh. Like a ~3.2 or something. A marginally better checkpoint, a bit more refined etc than whatever they benched before.
otub: hopefully one improvement is the cost
otub: https://x.com/sama/status/1908167790336651720
.wolfnacht: the naming is gonna confuse alot of people who are just starting to adopt AI
otub: lol so there will be 4o-mini and o4-mini
literallyvarane: I’d be shocked if it wasn’t tbh
literallyvarane: surely GPT5 is just wholesale > o4 mini
hey1_1hey: " but the most exciting one is that we are going to be able to make GPT-5 much better than we originally thought."
GPT-5 + o4-mini AGI (trust)
hey1_1hey: That don't seem to bad if you ask me 🥵
.wolfnacht: "year 2103".
Name=Human
Serial Number=920003
Class=Slave
Occupation=Miner on asteriod-098
literallyvarane: I’m not super sold on where R2 ends up landing though. I think that’s where their compute deficit might make itself more clear.
hey1_1hey: I gotta go update my friends and artist friends to reassure that their career is over
literallyvarane: I’m not sure they’d even *know* it was coming, but this could be a response to regain the lead from 2.5, or maybe some concern about an R2 situation.
hey1_1hey: We prob wont be classed as "humans" in 100 years by todays standards
.wolfnacht: Hooman extinction wehn ? 😩
hey1_1hey: I did the calculations with vibes so you can trust me
hey1_1hey: Nah we will feed the ASI artists as fuel to make the dyson sphere
futurist_wizard: Impossible
.wolfnacht: he still has control over the metaverse thing, which is pretty dead rn..but could be revived and become cool in 2027 or 2028. he still has the best cards in his hands.
hey1_1hey: Dyson sphere 2027
hey1_1hey: Not sure but I gotta 100x my expectations rq
literallyvarane: Yeah I’m reading this as “GPT5 is o4+all the features you’d expect.
memlaswaif: im assuming this means gpt 5 reasoning is o4 level
.wolfnacht: >feel the agi gif
hey1_1hey: o4-mini better be able to decipher my gender identity for me or its not AGI
hey1_1hey: I can feel it <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
memlaswaif: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>
hey1_1hey: THIS IS A LATE APRIL FOOLS
.wolfnacht: i wonder that the benchmark gonna be like for full o4


hikukomoru: Fractal coded
.histic: <@430269783112548362> did you try it yet?
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-quote-those-people-debra-kay-gif-14621910
fractalcomputer: It is an inevitability that one be forced to find meaning in life knowing that there fundamentally isn't any for him.
futurist_wizard: You have an impressive vocab i will give you that, if not for the dictionary I'd think im communicating with an alien
hikukomoru:
fractalcomputer: People have a tendency to trivialise others' statements by noting their divergence from the norm.
hey1_1hey: I'd look into it. The woke hormone juice is good (milk)
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895
st.sioux:
hikukomoru: Zamn looks like I need to drink some soy milk too
fractalcomputer: Are you not antipathised by the banality and meaninglessness of those people and things around you?
hey1_1hey: Double Ds mind you. Soy milk does wonders
hikukomoru: That's how he got his boobs
hey1_1hey: I'll look into that ty
hey1_1hey: That could be a possibility
hey1_1hey: One time it was borderline the next time they said I wasn't even close
futurist_wizard: Maybe you've been overdosing on soy milk
hey1_1hey: By different people
hey1_1hey: Got tested twice lmao
hey1_1hey: There is someone I know who is borderline illiterate because of their dyslexia. Shits bad
ailoveyoom: Cheapest Sonnet run
futurist_wizard: They need to test again
hikukomoru: Faker
hey1_1hey: I got tested and they were like nah bruh
st.sioux: helppe
st.sioux: i can not speelll
hey1_1hey: Nah you a fakey
futurist_wizard: I have dyslexia and you seem to be severe
fractalcomputer: You are most welcome.
hey1_1hey: That is indeed what I said
hey1_1hey: Correct
hey1_1hey: Thanks Fractal
futurist_wizard: Borderline
hey1_1hey: I am borderline dyslexic, I don't type the word I just remember patterns of the words I use
fractalcomputer: Because certain people cannot spell.
hikukomoru: Aren't you an estrogen femboy or whatever
futurist_wizard: To type
futurist_wizard: You are making it more time consuming
futurist_wizard: Why do you add letters to my name


a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/davidad/status/1918059244680552892?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
metaldragon01: Ultra if it's real will drop with the new subs
spicy.lemonade: and prob not even then
spicy.lemonade: its may 20th
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 ultra is not next week
brain4brain: Next week will be interesting
otub: https://tenor.com/view/apple-cat-cat-with-apple-apple-with-cat-cute-cat-gif-6092596570848924427
st.sioux:
drewsni: o7
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/gn-homies-gif-26916903
trojan09205: Thats fantastic brother we all have different paths to learning software development and there is no right or wrong as long as you actually learn to develop the skills that you will keep
drewsni: And I can’t forget my magnum opus, the geoguessr benchmark <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
drewsni: All in like 2.5 years, feels good
drewsni: I was really bad at coding when ChatGPT came out, and I like to think that I’ve greatly improved since then. Kinda the best time to really grind learning to code if you think about it. Got the basics/fundementals with gpt 3.5 turbo, expanded when GPT 4 came out and made an iPhone app, learned databases when I was trying to figure out RAG, got way better at web dev when 3.5 sonnet came out, and now I can train my own computer vision models from scratch using my own data
drewsni: Yeah, I also like to at least be constantly learning while the agent is working. If it does something I don’t quite recognize I always ask for clarification and a reason
drewsni: From what I understand if vibe coding, it’s people that actually don’t have any experience and need the agent to do everything for them. Like they’d have to ask “how do I run this python file” type questions
trojan09205: yeah that i find ridiculous lol. im just imagining your use case with raw data ingestion. you definitely need to feed it schemas and investigate nuances in the data yourself before asking the AI to build with it
drewsni: What I do I guess is just guided but I think there’s people who legitimately don’t look at any of the code and just go with it
trojan09205: whats the difference between vibe coding and guided AI augmented coding
drewsni: I’m about to put it to the real test tho and see if it can vibe code a working radar that uses the rawest form of radar data
drewsni: Mainly gov sources
drewsni: 90% of my projects are smaller and can fit in a 200k token window but I did try it on a bigger repo and it worked well. The only project I’ve done fully so far with it is a “weather analyst” chatbot that gets context/data from a few different services and APIs
trojan09205: wadafuq
trojan09205: Word that sounds dope
st.sioux: what are u using it for?
zoermena: Their mistake is that they left the plushie dirty and with a name thus I didn’t take it home.
zoermena: The feds are into me.
zoermena: I was driving home when I found a shark plushie in the road. I obviously had to stop to check it out but I’m certain I was under surveillance.
zoermena: I’m bad at conversations but I’ve been meaning to share this here for a while
hikukomoru: WHAT
zoermena: <@505313122802728972> I was almost kidnapped some days ago
drewsni: Yeah it’s basically Claude code with a web ui. Personally I prefer Claude code because it’s in terminal and I can make sure it uses max context possible every time
zoermena: What I do is I attach the thanks and please in the begging or end of the message after it gives any output. I only send a final thank you once I’m finished with the task.
hikukomoru: It's impossible to not say "thank you" and "please" after every message
trojan09205: I assume so i cant say i really know what claude code is. But when you said its agentic i figured id ask if u use manus
trojan09205: True true but im a chatter i just like to talk like a bro lol
drewsni: Manus is fairly similar to Claude code right?
zoermena: Good prompting is all that matters to make every single message count
trojan09205: Hm with gpt plus? 100 messages doesnt seem like much
st.sioux: yes its 100 messages per day with o4 mini high, context not as big as 2.5 pro tho


clevermoniker: he doesn't want the plebs having access to good AI
spicy.lemonade: i have infinite
_3sphere: I'd phrase it as recreate or redraw, because the proportions are a bit wrong too
_3sphere: I don't want to waste prompts but I was thinking it'd make it into like an actual anime image
spicy.lemonade: and realistic
spicy.lemonade: let me ask it to make it more detailed
_3sphere: that... works?
spicy.lemonade: or
spicy.lemonade: like this?
spicy.lemonade:
_3sphere: If it can do that, automated drawing is solved
_3sphere: Yeah
spicy.lemonade: quality?
spicy.lemonade: as in make it better?
metaldragon01: You should be able to find most on  x
_3sphere: Can you ask it to refine this Teto in space
joaoluz19: Sure bro, send the prompt
joaoluz19:
sarik0497: Anyone got access to the new image gen that could try something for me?
pecunia_: what is tunnel wechat 🤔
brain4brain: I have tunnel WeChat
brain4brain: I need to to short Adobe: https://x.com/jacob_posel/status/1904644963121738176?s=61
pecunia_: I am actually going to meet some SWEs in China, I can at least ask what they think.
pecunia_: lmao I’ll ask around
memlaswaif: Maybe <@1079277903008768051> know
spicy.lemonade: theyre all in china bro
brain4brain: Anyone know any high-ranking DeepSeek employees? I want to ask them about their AGI timeline
spicy.lemonade: yeah
maintcrew: like it can understand the world type shit
maintcrew: theres something in the world model of this model
maintcrew: but talking about agi timelines
spicy.lemonade: yeahj same
spicy.lemonade: oh loll
maintcrew: like this
maintcrew: i meant twitter/x timeline bro
maintcrew: im not kidding
maintcrew: https://x.com/beginanon/status/1904759100900274625/photo/1
spicy.lemonade: how many years was it shortened
spicy.lemonade: lol
maintcrew: 😭


gamerbath: which means?
fractalcomputer: After same number of games.
gamerbath: and AI won't beat humans at go before 2032? are these experts in stupidity or am I reading the graph wrong?
destrucules: Math and code will undoubtedly reach superintelligence. And we are already in the superintelligent regime for general intelligence as measured by GPQA, BBH, MMLU, MMLU-Pro, etc. Matched domain experts achieve ~70±5 on GPQA. We're past that now. Matched domain experts achieve ~90 on MMLU. We're past that now. Similar for BBH, and we're past that too. We've been in the superintelligent regime for medical since 2023. There isn't much left.
wryyth: i believe AGI would happen at some point but it would be decades away from now
gamerbath: wait so AI won't be able to read text until next year?
fractalcomputer: You already consigned your soul to the deepest pits of Hell by joining this server.
wryyth: <@749514473303179358> i bet billion dollars and my life
metaldragon01: At best math and code reach super intelligence
metaldragon01: I can only a see narrow spot for super intelligence. I don't think we get asi In close to a meaningful way
destrucules: I explicitly said I expect ASI to be achieved and then for a lot of people to argue it isn't ASI
sarik0497: The issue is that most of the timelines made by the experts are "old" (pre chatgpt old)
destrucules: My main concern is what the resolution criteria are
fractalcomputer: How much money are you willing to bet that ASI will not be achieved this year?
sarik0497: https://80000hours.org/2025/03/when-do-experts-expect-agi-to-arrive/
destrucules: LEV, by construction, is hard to pin down in prospect. Even in retrospect, it's a bit sensitive to your numerical setup. But a cure for aging should be achieved by 2028 ish, ±2 years. ASI will be achieved this year, but a significant group of people will probably continue to say it hasn't been achieved until ~2029.
wryyth: they know next to nothing
wryyth: don't trust expert's timelines
zonchao:
fractalcomputer: Two gajillion years added to the prediction.
zonchao: 2026-2030 AGI
zoermena: Pls
zoermena: What are the timelines from experts
futurist_wizard: you'd look at the consensus opinion across experts, usually done in a survey
fractalcomputer: > "*I* think *I* can finally see a path for how we'll get there."
drumguy0677: except experts like us have bias. Altman and Amodei wants to sell their product, and Kurzeweil wants to live forever
hey1_1hey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfbRHhOCgzs This comment section puts reddit cope to shame
hey1_1hey: Yeah its the new cool thing on the street 😎
.wolfnacht: explains why it gets stuck for like half minute, in mid of response. Now they'll put rate limits on it <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
futurist_wizard: Everything else is just layman gossiping
futurist_wizard: Predictions by experts matter the most
futurist_wizard: Who gives a fuck what people think in here
rayanquitplayin: Without being an expert, I’d say 2060, everybody has different guesses
hikukomoru: Woah I didn't know you have BPD too
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-dancing-meme-dancing-cat-white-cat-meme-gif-24092585
fractalcomputer: Gajillion years added to my prediction.
gamerbath: everything will be solved by 2035
fractalcomputer: Every time someone says before 2030, I increase mine.
drumguy0677: what is you guys' predictions on things like lev, agi/asi, etc? im myself in the 2040-50s range for most of these things.
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1903407654950654300


hey1_1hey: I second this
hikukomoru: I read this as "my mind is filled with dick"
zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891> I'm not like the xai haters, i recognize game <:ez:1136267305521774634>
metaldragon01: I dunno I guys I think we really need that GROK api 😂
ailoveyoom: On the buff doggo
hikukomoru: People* are overrated
ailoveyoom: My mind filled in a dick
ailoveyoom: Bro I'm so cooked 😭
hey1_1hey: Exaclty, I was expecting you to be like "Oh its not even that good" because its from OAI and not xAI
.histic: <@458069236825194506>
zonchao: false accusations
zonchao: never did wtf
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Yipiee, zon not saying its bad
.histic:
hikukomoru: Awesome
hey1_1hey: Bit of both
zonchao: 4o image is really good
hey1_1hey: Women are over rated anyway. Give me the emotionncailly intelgent android
hikukomoru:
.wolfnacht: soon, u won't need to read tons of books on dark psych
wellmeaningalien: equivalent exchange
_3sphere: Still better than Reddit ads
fractalcomputer: And steals mine.
ailoveyoom: Cursed Youtube ahh add I see when scrolling by
wellmeaningalien: its gives them life
.wolfnacht: They will be, soon.
hey1_1hey: That makes me seem like I manipulate women. Side note: I don't
wellmeaningalien: this actually looks like an ad, wtf
fractalcomputer: Why do you people engage in this sort of banal tirading? Do you never tire of it?
hey1_1hey: The ones I know are
hikukomoru: I wish women were progammable
.wolfnacht: sad, u'r now average.
ailoveyoom: Don't fall for ragebait lol
ailoveyoom: Bro don't be like Cloudo
spicy.lemonade: I’m gonna go insane
spicy.lemonade: AAAAAAAAA
clevermoniker: lmao Mark
hey1_1hey: True, computers and women are basically the same anyway. You can program them the same atleast
hikukomoru: This is true
My dad is blond and I have black hair because of my mom


spicy.lemonade: only calculates it computationaly
spicy.lemonade: doesnt get it
spicy.lemonade: 3.5 gets close but doesnt get it even after multiple tries
trojan09205: Did you try wolfram alpha 😏
spicy.lemonade: but its pi^3/96
.coldcall: Wat even
spicy.lemonade: well i didnt try with o3 yet
.coldcall:
spicy.lemonade: no
metaldragon01: So it's the vision model that's slightly off
.coldcall: That is a fucked up 2 though, so no shade.
.coldcall: I ran it through o3 and it was so close except it interpreted the x^2 as x^3
spicy.lemonade: gonna ask on lmsys
spicy.lemonade: ran out lol
metaldragon01: Did you try o3?
spicy.lemonade: no model has been able to solve yet
spicy.lemonade: neither can 2.5
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini high cant solve this
trey6033: They released twice this week already
brain4brain: Why are there no OpenAI release today
.histic: it's interesting to see how better it does when you enable 'thinking mode' and select how much tokens you want to allocate.
.histic: so, Google shipped this first before OpenAI.
damn..
literallyvarane: Yeah their deep research always did that I think.
okbut: Used to be meta for studying
okbut: Now <:madge:804277643686969354>
okbut: It infuriates me that Google keeps throttling my initiatives with Gemini's capabilities
For example, I have a list of commands in "saved info," one being
```/i - Search images related to the query, and embed and describe each image```
Used to work like this
777agical: I think they had it at one point then was removed. Now is back. I guess I never needed the feature to know
okbut: etc, etc...
okbut: Even cooler with Gemini is you can ask it to make a Google doc/sheet for you
st.sioux: but when gpt does it it sucks turbo ass, like the results always suck
okbut: Apologies for being so sardonic, but 4o had the mode since maybe 2022 lol
st.sioux: i didnt know gemini could do it, i knew gpt does it
drewsni: its revolutionary
okbut: The fuck is that
drewsni: lmao
okbut: Revolutionary, how will 4o compete
777agical: Did anyone know this?
777agical: https://x.com/sainemani1/status/1913041175642013859?s=46
alejandrozarzuelo: These are the traditional costumes of the spanish holy week
hikukomoru: Yes
But I prefer Warhammer fantasy


fractalcomputer: Consume coproma.
hey1_1hey: Theres a bunch of people who play demo man and spam the "Need a dispenser here!" voice line and if you do that fast enough in the spawn room it just sounds like he is saying the N-Word over and over and over again
wellmeaningalien: IDK
.wolfnacht: i saw this crocodile alot, is this a current brainrot thing ?
futurist_wizard: Its a casual game
futurist_wizard: I don't think maining is important in tf2 unlike overwatch which i quit
hey1_1hey: Didn't know you played engfi
hey1_1hey: Happnes to the best of us
hey1_1hey: Obv
wellmeaningalien: ↑ this is my tf2 class
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/tralalelo-tralala-bombardiro-crocodilo-tralalelo-tralala-vs-bombardiro-crocodilo-gif-2485123144263978191
.wolfnacht: yeah, we all know that was a misunderstanding, the fuhrer only asked for "a glass of juice"
futurist_wizard: I play all the classes
hey1_1hey: I main trollider
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-shocked-bocchi-shock-face-anime-shocked-face-bocch-the-rock-shocked-gif-27050901
hey1_1hey: I read that as pyro and almost died for you
wellmeaningalien: ironically i like scout cause i like being fast and hitting things
hey1_1hey: Jk I dont hate jews 👍
futurist_wizard: I can play anything but i usually main spy or engineer
hey1_1hey: You're talking to one rn
.wolfnacht: in what corner of the internet can i find Nazi femboys ?
hikukomoru: You’re both
hey1_1hey: Who do you main?
futurist_wizard: But im not one of those
wellmeaningalien: he knows
futurist_wizard: I also play tf2
hey1_1hey: Thats straight waifu materal
hey1_1hey: Wdym bro
wellmeaningalien: you hate what you dont understand
hey1_1hey: I play tf2 so that tracks
hikukomoru: Don’t post it again
hikukomoru: This looks creepy
futurist_wizard: They've lost the plot
hey1_1hey: Its the best
futurist_wizard: I literally see so many femboy tags on tf2 tf?
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/fire-punch-friepunch-agni-kino-gif-22359057
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-kiss-kissing-gif-14248534228296478010
wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> if twinks are so cool then what about agni bro do you hate agni?
hey1_1hey: And racist femboys
hey1_1hey: So many racist and femboys


maintcrew: yea ig
wellmeaningalien: i mean it's still like
wellmeaningalien: the sheer size still more than makes up for it
maintcrew: if u mean flint michigan thats long been fixed

shit tap water doesnt mean no tap water ... im more hinting at the infra for running water
wellmeaningalien: but yeah india has already like a billion and a half people so even tho it's kind of a shithole, it's like
wellmeaningalien: yeah but im nitpicking lmao
wellmeaningalien: uhh all those native canadians plus people with shit tap water in some parts of the US
futurist_wizard: Yes
wellmeaningalien: or a china "let some people get rich first"
wellmeaningalien: its kinda like a usa situation but cranked up max wealth disparity drives people to create wealth for themselves and in turn their nation it's not a perfect system but its the best thing a developing country with a corrupt gov can get
maintcrew: name a western or developed asian city that doesnt have running water

name any country but india with at least a trillion in gdp that doesnt have it
_cloudost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA1STdSGH7A isn't this animation basically human slop?
maintcrew: doubt it lmfao every tech company would call trump personally
wellmeaningalien: cause 99% of cities still dont have running water
wellmeaningalien: its kinda retarded but when i think about it kinda makes sense from an intel perspective
wellmeaningalien: btw i heard that usa's apparently restricting chinese ai expertise from coming into the country
maintcrew: genuinely how does this happen yet their cities dont have running water
wellmeaningalien: exactly why openai cant be in china
wellmeaningalien: yup
maintcrew: yo did u see that deepseek employees need to be vetted by the local gov
wellmeaningalien: yea so india is the next best thing compared to china
wellmeaningalien: yeah but
maintcrew: yea but china != india even if they have the same population
wellmeaningalien: meanwhile u have india ripe for the taking no inhouse ai and opposed to china
wellmeaningalien: and lets b honest china with their like 1 and a half billion people are the east asian market
maintcrew: yea maybe its a bias but india has been "developing" for the same amount of time china went from third world to super power
wellmeaningalien: i imagine considering china's more closed market and incentives from washington to keep ai companies from investing in china and stuff
wellmeaningalien: or i imagine they would be
maintcrew: --
wellmeaningalien: plus china's ai companies are advantaged by the state side and the US is having an ai cold war with china so
_cloudost: They get out of their slums every time Altman posts something
wellmeaningalien: that hasnt already been taken by inhouse competitors
_cloudost: I especially hate the "You killed the OpenAI whistleblower" dumbasses
wellmeaningalien: yeah and also cause they probably want to get a grip of one of the largest markets and still developing
_cloudost: Would be great if indians support OpenAI on Twitter, there are too many ret@rds spamming Altman's tweets
maintcrew: idk i think india i think most of mumbai doesnt even have running water much less 20$ for chatgpt
maintcrew: and they can serve the asian world better
maintcrew: isnt that bc its cheap as hell
wellmeaningalien: theyre building datacenters in india bro
maintcrew: idk i dont buy this

not that many indians have the $ required for ai stuff


fractalcomputer: I remember when LK-99 was the only thing that was talked about on the subreddit.
futurist_wizard: Yes, superconductor a few weeks away
hey1_1hey: I'll suck my own dick if its real but until then I will remain in my stance of its fake
retrerox: Just like AGI and ASI?
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/yes-yay-si-cool-dope-gif-11634092228970384325
futurist_wizard: The Lk 99 superconductor is right around the corner
wellmeaningalien: its relal
hikukomoru: No
hey1_1hey: This shit got disproved ages ago
hey1_1hey: Don't lie to my man
futurist_wizard: Its real
retrerox: or i'm smonkin
retrerox: I read this thing may allow humans to make energy like 10 times more cheaper if not more
retrerox: chat is this real? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LK-99
wellmeaningalien: its corpo vs corpo anyway
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: love that the corpos are winning this one
zonchao: i think they still have the copyright claim, tesla will probably fight that
zonchao: big W for AI art
wellmeaningalien: lol
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: when did i even say that
zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1909614444621042121
wellmeaningalien: google v everyone else rn
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/boxing-woman-pov-first-person-gif-14706033760261335031
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177111856813449250/1353637474798407701/attachment-3.gif
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: Hey there handsome 🫦 🫦
retrerox: Same vibes
brain4brain: Womp womp 😹
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/23s9g64yoxg?si=6hMz1oEAOMo3vrjP
spicy.lemonade: He always drops source
spicy.lemonade: Same dif
spicy.lemonade: Eh wtv
literallyvarane: He’s just the lead for Google AI Studio if I recall, but is the defacto main source of information from Google bar Demis/Sundar
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: I think he’s just a product lead for Gemini?
futurist_wizard: Japanese forest
spicy.lemonade: Could be the Gemini code model
spicy.lemonade: Logan is a lead researcher at deepmind


.wolfnacht: it's year 2028, u'r RP'ing and your waifu's generating the video or comic strip of the scene as well
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Sex!?
futurist_wizard: Do you want the real answer or the fake answer
.wolfnacht: https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/10/deepmind-ceo-demis-hassabis-says-google-will-eventually-combine-its-gemini-and-veo-ai-models/
hikukomoru: Why he crying
futurist_wizard:
.wolfnacht: https://raadsrtest.com/
wellmeaningalien: whats this teest
st.sioux: just to see what it does
st.sioux: sometimes i larp as a flat earther and shit
st.sioux: like conspiracy theories
hikukomoru: Wtf
What kind of stuff have you been talking to ChatGPT about
.wolfnacht: I'm slightly getting better..maybe bcz of few offline friends i managed to make
futurist_wizard: Autism test
st.sioux: idk if its bad but now it thinks im a liar psycopath
hikukomoru: I always score the highest on these <:ez:1136267305521774634>
futurist_wizard: Not a ai ting boi
.wolfnacht:
hikukomoru: Everyone is saying the new memory thing is bad
.wolfnacht: i scored 142 last year and this is my score of this year.
futurist_wizard: A quasar is a hunge black hole
st.sioux: it is for me
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Is the new memory thingie out for everyone
hikukomoru: Are you retarded
futurist_wizard: I don't know the words you people are sayinh
.wolfnacht: it's soo over
.wolfnacht: Also, quasar's and optimus is only free till this week.
wellmeaningalien: riiiiiiiiiight its in the oveeennn
wellmeaningalien: it iiiiissssssss
wellmeaningalien: it issssss
.wolfnacht: it's still in oven acc to them
.wolfnacht: either it's OAI or some independent lab is mysterymaxxing for more hype....i would be surprised tho if it's actually silX
st.sioux: kinda creeped out
st.sioux: i deleted all memories and chats in chatgpt and changed the settings so chatgpt doesnt remember anything but it still does
futurist_wizard: You have terminal autism
futurist_wizard: Yours cannot be cured
hikukomoru: I need it
hikukomoru: Autism cure now


connorsphone.: It’s already been an hour
hey1_1hey: SamA when gpt 6?
hey1_1hey: Yeah this is boring
connorsphone.: Where is gpt 5o native image generation
hey1_1hey: You say it like that 2000 BCE bruh 😭
hikukomoru: Where is Gemini 3 pro flash thinking exp lite
hey1_1hey: When my pens came today I wanted to make the delivery guy uneasy so I said "Oh wow thank you, since my parents are out of town I can finally use this"
drewsni: its a fraud model
maintcrew: old news
spicy.lemonade: benchmarks
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: I should just start saying that to random people on the street
maintcrew:
hikukomoru: Did you wash your hands
spicy.lemonade: back
ailoveyoom: Quick shot
hey1_1hey: whats happening 4 seconds
joaoluz19: May God hear you
spicy.lemonade: brb in 4 seconds
joaoluz19: Daddy fractal went for a walk, the bar is clean chat
maintcrew: this is the Ad you will get in your neuralink about the chinese android pussy
hey1_1hey: I can feel the AGI, a little too much
spicy.lemonade: tbh doesnt look that much like him
ailoveyoom: Up
ailoveyoom: Nah bro the AGI is feeling me
maintcrew: bro theres like a morbillion napoleon movies wtf do u meannnnnnnnnn
hikukomoru: Now make them kiss
joaoluz19: We are so back NSFW alert
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: napolean
spicy.lemonade: theres no other photorealistic
spicy.lemonade: i mean
maintcrew: maybe overtrained on newer stuff?
maintcrew: you can see that's the napoleon from the latest napoleon movie so they trained a lot on movies
777agical: Reve has no idea who Sam Altman is <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: ITS SO GOOD BROTHER
maintcrew: 0 puss(y)
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: O pus 😏


zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1914448618909544672
alejandrozarzuelo: when drop
wolf3404: AGI is already here, it just turned out to be kind of a nothing burger in the end
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/cat-sun-smile-happy-gif-3011267922165021365
trojan09205: Agi dropped yesterday bro wake up
spicy.lemonade: agi today
shirethedreamer: its shipril you guys
spicy.lemonade:
shirethedreamer: i think its great that there are people like lecun which are
A. absolutely brilliant
B. have a completely different intuition about the direction of AI development
C. has the same resources as the leading AGI labs have

worst case scenario he is wrong and only had a minor positive impact
best case - we got to intelligently explore a much larger part search space and got to a better, more capable, cheaper solution much sooner than we would have otherwise

he is absolutely invaluable and this is exactly the sort of contrarianism that should be celebrated
wolf3404: Make this stop
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/prmshra/status/1914641644558680301
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 was only 3x gpt 4
spicy.lemonade: requires alot of resources
alejandrozarzuelo: that doesnt make sense
alejandrozarzuelo: scared?
spicy.lemonade: labs prob too scared to scale that much
spicy.lemonade: thats why I still wanrt to see a 10^27 flop model
spicy.lemonade: pure scaling isnt the only way as weve seen
brain4brain: Seems like no one is testing it rather than the AI not being there
alejandrozarzuelo: but it is better performing
spicy.lemonade: most gains over the past year have been done through test time and post training
brain4brain: I'm surprised claude-3.7-sonnet or gemini-2.5-pro isn't already classified as "weakly AGI"
spicy.lemonade: deepseek is likeley around the same as gpt4
brain4brain: The only thing left is agentic task to solve the Montezuma's revenge requirements
brain4brain: Their AGI definition is quite easy tbh
alejandrozarzuelo: where is deepseek on that graph
alejandrozarzuelo: also
alejandrozarzuelo: it feels much better
alejandrozarzuelo: only 1-2x gpt4?
spicy.lemonade: o3:

2. The “100 × compute” claim does not add up
If Gemini 2.5 really used 100 × GPT‑4 compute it would need ~2 × 10²⁷ FLOP.

At today’s prices that would cost $10 – 15 billion in GPU time alone and require a cluster an order of magnitude larger than anything publicly reported.

Google DeepMind, Alphabet filings and press briefings contain no hint of such a spend or cluster; the largest budgets discussed for future frontier runs are ≈ $1 B.

3. Back‑of‑the‑envelope calculation
Using the standard 6 · N · D rule of thumb (FLOP ≈ 6 × parameters × training‑tokens):

Assumed input    Parameters (T)    Tokens (T)    FLOP (6 N D)
GPT‑4    1.8    13    1.4 × 10²⁶ FLOP
Gemini 2.5‡    1.5    20    1.8 × 10²⁶ FLOP
‡ These Gemini numbers are generous upper‑bounds inferred from researcher chatter and token‑window hints; they still give only ≈ 1.3 × GPT‑4 compute, not 100 ×.

4. Capability ≠ compute
Benchmark leaders in early 2025 (o‑series, Claude 3.7, Gemini 2.5) all cluster in the GPT‑4‑plus to GPT‑4.5 capability band.

Google’s own post stresses “thinking models”—long‑context attention, multi‑step planning, more efficient search—rather than a giant jump in raw size.

5. Bottom line
There is no evidence—from parameter counts, training‑compute estimates, financial disclosures, or benchmark behaviour—that Gemini 2.5 Pro is either “GPT‑5 level” or uses “100 × the effective compute of GPT‑4.”
Realistic reading: Gemini 2.5 is ≈ 1–2 × GPT‑4 in training compute and incremental in capability, achieved mainly through architectural and post‑training advances rather than a massive FLOP increase.
spicy.lemonade: its over
spicy.lemonade: with ttc?
spicy.lemonade: that 10^27 flop model is gonna be so fuckin insane bro
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 = Agent-0
spicy.lemonade: not forme
alejandrozarzuelo: chatgpt is down?
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 and gemini 3.0 have to seal the deal honestly
spicy.lemonade: lol metacalculus error prdicts agi eoy 2025
spicy.lemonade:


fractalcomputer: But he clearly intended to disagree.
zoermena: You are perfect compared to other people I’ve met
hikukomoru: Fine, there are twinks here for you
spicy.lemonade: news was so slow
alejandrozarzuelo: <@1303189881568100362> was making a statement, it is debatable, regardless of what you think is up for debate or not
spicy.lemonade: im so glad ai exists
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895
fractalcomputer: Did I set it up for debate?
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont like femboys? being small and cute doesnt make you one
spicy.lemonade: ik
theaiguy69420_89814: Debatable
joaoluz19: Feelings are not good predictors/motivators
hikukomoru: Don't worry, there are other femboys here for you 😏
fractalcomputer: In fact, I'd be quite disappointed if not a single one among you people hated me.
ailoveyoom: Where's that edgy wolf GIF when you need it 😔
alejandrozarzuelo: btw <@471334973379706900> that was a compliment, but dont take it seriously
alejandrozarzuelo: thats debatable
fractalcomputer: Hatred is what drives our species forward, Alejandro. Hate and greed.
futurist_wizard: I like these two messages next to each other
hikukomoru:
alejandrozarzuelo: with yout attitude lately, it seems like the sentiment is becoming mutual
alejandrozarzuelo: its a shame he doesnt like guys, he probably looks cute and small
fractalcomputer: I truly hate people.
hikukomoru: Alejandro rizz
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: now I use instagram
spicy.lemonade: one note
ailoveyoom: What website do you use for the journalling?
hikukomoru: Oh lol
I thought like 14 or smth
alejandrozarzuelo: omg this makes you so cute
spicy.lemonade: 18
hikukomoru: How old were you bro 😭
fractalcomputer: You can hardly call whatever this is science.
spicy.lemonade: was almost exclusively spacex
spicy.lemonade: singularity news was so slow holy hell
alejandrozarzuelo: all of science AND statistics is gut feelings?
ailoveyoom: Bro was prepared 🥺
ailoveyoom: If Youtube no longer exists 💀
futurist_wizard: I'll be 45 by then


spicy.lemonade: For AI model
spicy.lemonade: We need 2.5 petabyte storage
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: We need our own local ai models<:angrysad:1136267059811074079> but consumer hardware that can run too
destrucules: The Sleeper Agents paper and the Alignment Faking paper both show very long horizon agency that is highly coherent and successful, but it only shows up because those studies look at model behavior at training time, not merely at test time
destrucules: It's already built-in, but then we disable it when we serve the models to the public
spicy.lemonade: A way to store years worth of memory on the ai
spicy.lemonade: Like
spicy.lemonade: We need a memory breakthrough
destrucules: Can't wait for 2030 when we say "cool. cures 99% of diseases. not too bad I guess"
spicy.lemonade: Yeah
spicy.lemonade: Loll
destrucules: We've gotten so used to what is very much not normal
destrucules: "cool. had same thought process as human" imagine explaining this reaction to someone from 2018 lmfao
destrucules: It's just that we don't usually get to see this in deployed models because deployed models are frozen, so extending agency beyond a single context window requires RAG of some kind, and RAG sucks bootyhole
destrucules: I think you'll see as I have that LLMs are clearly already capable of agency over unbounded time horizons
destrucules: But like... Read the Sleeper Agents paper
destrucules: Fair
spicy.lemonade: Ngl ai too unpredictable I don’t trust my own bet
spicy.lemonade: Oh monetary bet?
spicy.lemonade: What am I supposed to say💀
professorheaven: <@471334973379706900> you ignoring this?
spicy.lemonade: Had same thought process as human
spicy.lemonade: Cool
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
destrucules: Like, >90% over >4 years was already achieved as of 2022 and quite possibly as of 2020
destrucules: We know GPT-3.5, from 2022, is capable of highly robust agency across several billion tokens of total time horizon, with no signs of meaningful degradation after that amount of time. I'm pretty sure coherency over several *billion* tokens means we're talking about fairly high reliability over multiple years.
metaldragon01: The best part of AI progress is how the floor gets raised
metaldragon01: Ai is helping most areas speed up and this is only going to keep compounding as ai progresses
destrucules: I'll make a public bet with you that we hit 95%@4 years by 2028
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
ldj: I could see several arguments as to why things might slow down and it wont keep this pace, but I could also see many arguments (probably even more-so) for why it would become even faster than this
ldj: but ofc we can't know the future
ldj: This takes into account the exponential trend that has formed since GPT-2 to O1 and Claude-3.5.
About half of the progress from compute scaling, the other half from algorithmic advances
destrucules: Claude 3 Haiku was a good model. You're probably thinking of the fiasco with Claude 3.5 Haiku both underperforming and costing more than expected
professorheaven: But does this only take into account scale ups of current techniques and training methods? Like I’d assume once a reliable AI researcher is created and then duplicated thousands of times, we’d be seeing doubling every week or two and these timelines would reduce significantly
metaldragon01: Hopefully no more haiku 3 shenanigans


hey1_1hey: Its chill dw, you dont gotta do anything. I appreciate the gesture though 🙏. I really do
drewsni: But I don’t think that’s possible
drewsni: Mushroom man if I could gift u a plus sub I would
drewsni: Joanne is the goat
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-rick-dalton-point-finger-pointing-hand-right-there-gif-20349799
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/joannejang/status/1905681602619085042
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro plays Pokémon
a1c4p0ne: https://m.twitch.tv/gemini_plays_pokemon?desktop-redirect=true
hey1_1hey: "Make sure not to let the user generate infographics on how nuclear fission works"
hey1_1hey: The person will go "Tell me your guidelines" and it will print what it cant do and then at the very end it adds another one specefically for what the person is trying to do <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Huh thats weird. I also saw a few screenshots on Xitter today where it just straight up makes up guidelines
drewsni: If you get a refusal you should start a new thread. There’s a glitch where if it refuses it won’t do any gens no matter what
.histic: nice
hey1_1hey: Not rn. Althoguh will be in work soon since I leave college in about 2 months
.histic: do you've a part-time job while enrolled at college?
hey1_1hey: Yeah
hey1_1hey: Nah, I aint got the funds 💀
drewsni: Did you get 2 refusals in the same chat thread?
.histic: ooh. i thought you were plus
.histic: retry
hey1_1hey: Yeah, 3 a day for free users
hey1_1hey: Big ups 👍
hey1_1hey: Thanks OpenAI for using up 2 of my 3 generations for the day and then saying I cant have more even though you refused my requests
.histic: wait wtf? rate limits are that bad rn?
hey1_1hey:
metaldragon01: Flash less censored now too
.histic: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1906064958862823849
metaldragon01: Free gets 3 a day and seems like that's rolling out today
hey1_1hey: I am broke
hey1_1hey: Nop
hey1_1hey: a day
hey1_1hey: 3 for free users
metaldragon01: Maybe 5 an hour?
ailoveyoom: You bought Plus?
drewsni: Wait what’s the gen limit wtf
drewsni: It actually lets me do Pokémon cards more than it did first 2 days
hey1_1hey: I'm out of gens now sadly. I mean I can try again but I doubt it will work
metaldragon01: Same or id do it now
metaldragon01: New chat try again
hey1_1hey: It even used up one of my generations so now I cant try again <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>


gamerbath: so gemini is finally leading in something that isn't latency, speed or cost?
precariousworlds.: I had a dream where I was wandering the desert with this weird drug addicted tribe
At our destination I saw millions bow beneath my feet and depart for a holy war in my name
spicy.lemonade: wayyyyyy beter than o3 mini high
joaoluz19: Man I need to take a 8 month break from AI news
popsiclejohnithan: Only three months into this year as well.
drewsni: Who the FUCK clown reacted me
hey1_1hey: I had a dream about the tf2 2fort cow
spicy.lemonade: this is batshit
_3sphere: How am I not feeling the AGI while dreaming ywt
literallyvarane: Oh shit maybe it is real
_3sphere: I had a dream where I was digging for something important in a pile of garbage <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
spicy.lemonade: yes
literallyvarane: You personally have access??
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: im the source
spicy.lemonade: me
spicy.lemonade: top left
literallyvarane: What’s the sauce for that?
spicy.lemonade:
drewsni: Guys I had a dream that we are getting 4o native image and Gemini pro today
spicy.lemonade: wdym
popsiclejohnithan: I see.
.wolfnacht: drop
.wolfnacht: he won't
.wolfnacht: Alt-Man's existence is based on keeping GPT 5 a secret
ldj: No it’s just 4o native image gen
popsiclejohnithan: Ahhh.
popsiclejohnithan: Wait so is GPT-5 about to drop as well?
ldj: Gpt-4o
literallyvarane: We here to actively crush hype until demonstrated otherwise.
.wolfnacht: exactly i wanted it on AI studio
literallyvarane: Imma need a better sauce lololol
popsiclejohnithan: Nice.
precariousworlds.: wtf is going on today
deepseek v3? new gemini model?
precariousworlds.: is this gpt-5?
spicy.lemonade: yes
popsiclejohnithan: Is this 2.5?
st.sioux: lame elitist google
spicy.lemonade: bro it just dropped
.wolfnacht: it's available on gemini app for beta buxxers and whales


.histic: i was about to say..
zoermena: My goal is to workout tomorrow
hey1_1hey: 200mg sends me into a 12 hour concentration
hikukomoru: That looks sus bro
oooooooooog: no because there is no way to go back, in the future, i will have multiple bodies, and it's a liability to be unable to have ones of different kinds
hey1_1hey: I have
wellmeaningalien:
maintcrew: thats... thats a child
drewsni: It’ll actually change your life. It’s an extremely studied supplement. Boosts water retention, lessens muscle fatigue and recovery time
maintcrew: damn have you considered 400mg of caffeine and a nicotine pillow of 3/4mg stat
hey1_1hey: Weird isn't it
.histic:
hey1_1hey: No clue
hey1_1hey: Yeah
hey1_1hey: I did that for 6 months and eneded up dislking myself more
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Damn why is it when <@439829942310666250> is around everyone starts talking about transgenders
technocake.: do you have to prespecify which gender?
hey1_1hey: No thanks
zoermena: I only have time in the mornings, I have work in the morning and class in the afternoon
wellmeaningalien: its hank
oooooooooog: i have no idea what that even is haha
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/bruh-stare-serious-gif-14759437
drewsni: I’m assuming you take creatine?
hikukomoru: WTF
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Had me looking like a professional bullshitter (philosopher)
oooooooooog: i think i need more b12 or something
drewsni: You gotta still do it brother. Everyone here needs to live forever
oooooooooog: i can't do it again or i won't be able too get up lol
drewsni: Hell ya, proud of you
hey1_1hey: I heard something the other day to know if you're trans or not and I am still stuck. Heres the theory

"Theres is a button in front of you and it will change you to your desired gender but if you press it you can't go back what so ever. Do you press it?"
zoermena: No I should’ve woken up earlier
.histic: masterpiece
oooooooooog: my arms and legs hurt because i just worked out ;-;
wellmeaningalien:
drewsni: Did you work out today?
hikukomoru: No
zoermena: I have a gym at home luckily
oooooooooog: the reason is that it's a specific label, which is a useful tool in any formal discussion


a1c4p0ne: He said you’re a sub
futurist_wizard: its pretty rare people can do 25 clean push ups
hikukomoru: ????????
Half of the time I don't understand what you are even talking about
hey1_1hey: Sorry?
drewsni: bearish on nvda
hey1_1hey: Femboy aura
futurist_wizard: bullshit, you quarter rep once and then cry
hikukomoru: He said he's obsessed with you
777agical: 100M in a month??
a1c4p0ne: I got work soon tho
hey1_1hey: And yet you are a bottom
777agical: https://x.com/Kr00ney/status/1906829955776078166
a1c4p0ne: Yessirrskiis
hey1_1hey: Do I just have a wing man now
hikukomoru: I am literally in the top 3 funniest people here
hey1_1hey: I am the biggest anti half repper of all time. If I see someone doing half reps I will tell them
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
hey1_1hey: That's what I do bruh
spicy.lemonade: ah
futurist_wizard: if your chest doesn't touch the floor it dont count
hey1_1hey: You are so unoriginal it hurts
777agical: valuation after the raise
futurist_wizard: you probably are half reping, real push ups are where your chest touches the floor
hey1_1hey: I remember doing my first pull up. One of the moments of all time
hikukomoru: Yeah because you weigh as much as a feather
spicy.lemonade: what does the 300b post money mean
a1c4p0ne: For guys science says upper body
futurist_wizard: i can do 20 pull ups : )
a1c4p0ne: Science says hour glass shape most attractive for women
hey1_1hey: I can knock out 25 easy
hey1_1hey: Thats straight embaressing
hikukomoru: 2 and I collapse
hikukomoru: A single one? yeah
futurist_wizard: honestly some girls cant even do one
maintcrew: if ur a girl lifting weights with ur arms wont do a lot of things

try to focus on the buttock and related areas muscles more
wellmeaningalien: ❓ wait 60kg oh
hey1_1hey: Yes? What kind of question is that
futurist_wizard: can you do a push up
hikukomoru: I am 10kg heavier than him
hey1_1hey: Idk man leave me alone its getting late


futurist_wizard: Alejandro do you burn in the sun?
alejandrozarzuelo: Suuuuuuuuuure
alejandrozarzuelo: Sure buddy
hikukomoru: I take vit d supplements
rayanquitplayin: I’m Indian, I never burn
futurist_wizard: I can sunbathe for 2 hours with no sunscreen and not feel any burns
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, love the climate, not so much the culture
wolf3404: Naw you need some sun for vitamin D, circadian health and a bunch of other scientific shit
futurist_wizard: I don't
alejandrozarzuelo: Sure buddy
hikukomoru: Come on
Anywhere would be better than the middle east
alejandrozarzuelo: But the damage is all the same once it is burnt
futurist_wizard: I don't burn at all
alejandrozarzuelo: Black people also burn, they just notice it less
alejandrozarzuelo: Bruh
rayanquitplayin: Had to
futurist_wizard: He looked like 17 with eye wrinkles
okbut: Bro edited a period
rayanquitplayin: Real.
futurist_wizard: I remember there was a kid on tik tok we was a sungazer and said the sun gives black people superpowers
alejandrozarzuelo: It is, although I prefer it a bit warmer

Coastal desert climates are the best match

Look it may sound very narcissistic but Alexandria has a very good climate for my requirements
okbut: Is Reddit using AI or is AI using Reddit
hikukomoru: If you want to stay young forever never go out on sunny days
hikukomoru: Sun is horrible for your skin
futurist_wizard: Shine shine too much
rayanquitplayin: Same here I love the heat, I want to go outside and be warmed up
futurist_wizard: Sun is bad
hikukomoru: I'm the opposite
I love the cold
wolf3404: Southern California should be close enough
futurist_wizard: I avoid the sun
futurist_wizard: Server is owned by a finnish guy
alejandrozarzuelo: I like heat 🥵
rayanquitplayin: Discord’s American
alejandrozarzuelo: Those are for pussiez
alejandrozarzuelo: No need for seasons
futurist_wizard: Thats quite hot
alejandrozarzuelo: Every day
alejandrozarzuelo: My ideal climate:

Sunny, dry, no clouds, 30C, light breeze
hikukomoru: The climate where i live is not so great either
futurist_wizard: Top of the leaderboard


technocake.: the average in this server is fairly high though
technocake.: the average human is mad dumb
technocake.: LLMs are already smarter than most in short horizon tasks
a1c4p0ne: So you can’t rely on it in emergency or important situations
ailoveyoom: Just talk to a calculator bro
ailoveyoom: An LLM with no hallucinations would be so boring
wellmeaningalien: intelligence as a hallucination optimisation function
ailoveyoom: TIL there are YT tutorials on how to make AI slop for easy adsense money 💀
a1c4p0ne: Mark my words
a1c4p0ne: Hallucinations will never be solved
wellmeaningalien: i feel like people forget llms dont get stuff 100% the time or answer the same way all the time
a1c4p0ne: AGI not confirmed
wellmeaningalien: fixed it
a1c4p0ne: Yeah not consistent
technocake.:
wellmeaningalien: kek or maybe it just gets it wrong sometimes
a1c4p0ne: Hmm maybe it’s fixed now
a1c4p0ne: Yeah
wellmeaningalien: damn lol
joaoluz19: Memory seems fucked up
joaoluz19: And gpt doesn't stop, it doesn't listen to my commands
joaoluz19: For example I asked to stop

Speaking like that
Skipping lines
himekokatagiri: no way
ailoveyoom: Apparently things don't get much better when adults have a voice on the internet
wellmeaningalien: oh well it's an LLM, can't win everything. but for STEM stuff it's still best in game
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro?
wellmeaningalien: eexample?
wellmeaningalien: weird
joaoluz19: Is being excessively poetic and repetitive, it seems like the messages have a script... he has lost the ability to adapt to conversations
a1c4p0ne: I asked for 7 characters sometimes it gives me 6
a1c4p0ne: It hallucinated when I asked for vanity plate ideas
wellmeaningalien: as in?
joaoluz19: After the memory update
wellmeaningalien: best in game context length
joaoluz19: Man gpt is insuportable to talk wtf
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro is muuuuuch better for hallucinations because of the better base model + context length
a1c4p0ne: No hallucinations yet right?
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: it can immediately turn me into an expert in any online argument and make me win
wellmeaningalien: i love gemini 2.5 pro


zoermena: Shit I just get the 25 bucks plan to try it before anyone else
zoermena: I've been lucky lately ngl
.histic: also, did you see this?
2.0 pro was released 4 months ago w/ a 2 mill context. it did have the 'experimental' tag to it
i believe they removed it from AIStudio. i recall the rate limits for yet it was very high and it was quick, but despite that, it performed close to 4.5 level on LiveBench.
i think that shows how competitive Google is becoming.
st.sioux: blessed by kling kiling
st.sioux: youre a vip bro
zoermena: but why is it "available" for me
zoermena: Yeah thats what ive heard
a1c4p0ne: It would be surprising if 2.5 pro still remains king after this week
metaldragon01: 45 min till stream starts
metaldragon01: https://youtu.be/YNxOSDj2EQ0?si=TAFjX8tklP2HFl92
metaldragon01: Oof
zoermena: 20
metaldragon01: How many credit are 1.6 videos?
zoermena: For some reason but I dont have enough credits (100 each)
metaldragon01: Announcement in 45 min. You got access?
.histic: i think it's the price & inference that is lacking from OpenAI.
performance-wise they're great, but Google is now having cheap yet highly performant models now.
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
metaldragon01: Google threatens anthropic more than anyone else
a1c4p0ne: No one will ever get to use 4.5 again in 3 months
zoermena: Yo?
st.sioux: their only significant flop so far has been 4.5
metaldragon01: Google and openai have completely different markets
a1c4p0ne: Competition is good
zoermena: <@590577270926868480> I have the option to use kling 2?
okbut: <:sadge:815362275044360202>
okbut: Last Shipmas they released the best first
.histic: it's ogre for OpenAI.
hopefully o4 & o3 delivers.
seems like Google is stepping up quickly.
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
okbut: If flight 9 RUDs before orbit Elon will go livid on them
zonchao: they might launch this month
zonchao: i think flight 10 or 11 will be the first one to orbit
zonchao: they haven't figured things out yet, better not to send a 20 story building around the world on top of cities if you can't control it... especially if it won't burn up<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
okbut:
zonchao: yes
okbut: But everyone knows Block 1 could've done it
okbut: The first 5 or 6 were "near-orbit" but the velocity to maintain a spin around the earth requires a few more bits of impulse
zonchao: hmm? all starship flights even 9 are controlled ascents so they don't get into orbit, I don't think ships mission has changed a whole lot
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1911874575735939474?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
okbut: The rocket nerds get really mad if you call 2 trips around the world "orbit"
zonchao: yep, wonder if flight 9 will be the one


spicy.lemonade: bro native sound
spicy.lemonade: art was all it took
drewsni: except for fractal obv
drewsni: i feel like everyone is actually feelin the agi just a bit
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: just ask for direct fuly rendered sprites
spicy.lemonade: so theres no point in turning the whole image to pixel sprites
spicy.lemonade: saves time
spicy.lemonade: is bc you dont wanna draw the whole render
spicy.lemonade: the whole point of pixel art
spicy.lemonade: this example is kinda funny
spicy.lemonade: it messes up
spicy.lemonade: wheren theres laots and lots of elements in a page
spicy.lemonade: etc
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: that they aim to fix
spicy.lemonade: theres several flaws
spicy.lemonade: on their page
spicy.lemonade: openAI specifies
spicy.lemonade: super small text it gets wrong
drewsni: https://www.google.com/maps/search/38.945%2C+-77.074
drewsni: im sorry i didnt clarify, the right image is the actual streetview
ailoveyoom: What are some flaws in OAI img gen still?
spicy.lemonade: the world looks more bright and hopeful acording to 4o
spicy.lemonade: google keeps it looking real
spicy.lemonade: openAI tries to disney-fy it too much
drewsni: thats crazy no?
spicy.lemonade: YOOO
spicy.lemonade: wtf
ailoveyoom: What happens if you give it an exact house address lol
drewsni: this was the prompt, im assuming it didnt search
drewsni:
drewsni: holdup
drewsni: YO
spicy.lemonade: wtf
drewsni: i imagine google trained with a fuck ton of streetview images maybe?
spicy.lemonade: out the water
spicy.lemonade: will blow openAI
spicy.lemonade: i have a feeling 2.5 pro image gen


st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/laughing-laugh-funny-fun-hilarious-gif-13406227750017924249
hey1_1hey: Dont get me started on liquidised plutonium 🥵
hikukomoru: What meme are you talking about
spacetimetsunami: Sounds about right lol.
spacetimetsunami: I think it’s cuz I did it too much when I was younger. At least that’s part of it.
futurist_wizard: I don't even think i could describe it, its like you are asking me to explain why a painting that goes on forever is aesthetically pleasing, it's just too complex to start listing off things
3ds0662: super straight 💪
fractalcomputer: Sex is a perverted substitute for the unity afforded by death.
hikukomoru: Those fluids are hot
ailoveyoom: There's a lot of fluids involved in sex, it does feel kinda icky when you think about it from a distance
hey1_1hey: I swear most things you say are you just projecting
hey1_1hey: You remind me of that meme that you sent me now. That was just you projecting wasn't it <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
spacetimetsunami: I am straight guys, lol
3ds0662: avatar the last airbender is good example
hikukomoru: I'm fine with being a dumb little animal
As long as ASI looks after me
spacetimetsunami: I feel the same. I’m confused as to why I feel that way.
hey1_1hey: Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls Do not say dick and balls
fractalcomputer: And which things do you find aesthetically pleasing?
hey1_1hey: I just like learning bruh
futurist_wizard: Not necessarily pleasure, i enjoy boxing and there's plenty of pain in that, i guess just achieving goals that i find aesthetic
hey1_1hey: Bigfoot
hikukomoru: Yetis?
ailoveyoom: Woof
hikukomoru: Bears?
hikukomoru: What are finnish people into
ailoveyoom: 🐕🦺
hey1_1hey: Yeah prob
3ds0662: has no taste
3ds0662: its animalistic
hey1_1hey: Fractal 👉 👈 ...
Would you?
3ds0662: yes i hate plots that just jump to sex scenes
fractalcomputer: Would that impact my distaste for sexuality?
hikukomoru: What about gay dragons
hey1_1hey: Fractal you are litterly homsexual
futurist_wizard: I would just say they aren't interesting to me then, even throwing myself off a cliff without pain would be more interesting
fractalcomputer: Sex is a profoundly grotesque affair.
hey1_1hey: I KNEW IT
hey1_1hey: Also thats just you projecting
hikukomoru: I want dragon sex
hey1_1hey: Fractal ban this hoolegan


wellmeaningalien: like even the lines in this thing are so impeccable there is literally not ONE mistake i can spot in this image
oooooooooog: probably because stylization has been the hardest for models to get, and this is stylized well
zoermena: OAI Servers are so cooked
spacetimetsunami: i am feeling the acceleration though. didnt the new 2.5 pro gemini model murder o3 mini? and deepseek v3 is looking good, r2 might be wild. this year..... is going to be amazing
futurist_wizard: The next time is to be able to match 3d models to the quality of these
wellmeaningalien: it could pass off as 1990's cel & broadcast fuzziness
joaoluz19: Calm down, man, everyone has their own
hey1_1hey: Based asf take
hikukomoru: Damn you autistic like that I get it though
hey1_1hey: They all HATE AI aswell
_cloudost: Looks far better than all furry artists
oooooooooog: it's pretty detectible though, that is, the noise in the images
hey1_1hey: I wonder if I post fan art into a certain discord server I am in will they notice
zoermena: You can disable them I think.
wellmeaningalien: cuz i like it like zat
hikukomoru: Why are there no pfps in your discord
wellmeaningalien: AHAHAHAHAHA
wellmeaningalien: LEÉA"IURGOHDTPHRHE$YF,
hey1_1hey: Right luz...
wellmeaningalien: THEY DONT NOTICE A THING
hey1_1hey: Luz would never
zoermena: Midjourney will take a big hit.
drewsni: fair enough lol
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> Brooo he's tryna steal your girl!!!
hey1_1hey: I'll just wait for 4o image gen so I can finetune the prompt I want. I dont want to hassle you generating images all day <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Prob top left, although I got something in mind
hikukomoru: Sorry Your Holiness
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: I want it to make an ad thats like "Artisthate doesn't want you to know this, artists are in shock!"
tors.exe: me too !
zoermena: Incredible, this means it can do PNGs.
hikukomoru: Nope
spacetimetsunami: not me rn\
zoermena:
tors.exe: is 4o image available to everyone ?
drewsni: sora! fitlered under remixes
spacetimetsunami: i was able to use it but guess not now, will come back 2 it later
zoermena: Finally it worked it took way to long to make an image of a cat jesus
wellmeaningalien: truth is; i showed a 4o image in a server that hates AI and they didnt notice a thing
drewsni: which one u like the most?


.histic: just copying kurzweil now lol
.histic: elon changed his year?
xskydragon0: Thanks
brain4brain: https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/dear-elon-musk-here-are-five-things
xskydragon0: Do you have the full article?
brain4brain: > “In 2029, AI will not be able to watch a movie and tell you accurately what is going on ….”
Google showed a demo a while back with Gemini-1.5-Pro: https://youtu.be/wa0MT8OwHuk?si=OdM0vfFE7apassyZ

> “In 2029, AI will not be able to read a novel and reliably answer questions about plot, character, conflicts, motivations, etc. Key will be going beyond the literal text…”
Gemini-2.5-Pro and o3 saturated all token level of fiction.livebench, up to 100% on 120k token level

> “In 2029, AI will not be able to work as a competent cook in an arbitrary kitchen (extending Steve Wozniak’s cup of coffee benchmark)”
Gemini-2.5-pro when given a robotic body to pilot can perform multiple task, but we are not at a level of intelligence or speed that it can do this yet

> “In 2029, AI will not be able to reliably construct bug-free code of more than 10,000 lines from natural language specification or by interactions with a non-expert user.”
Gemini-2.5-pro can and have done this

> “In 2029, AI will not be able to take arbitrary proofs from the mathematical literature written in natural language and convert them into a symbolic form suitable for symbolic verification.”
Gemini-2.5-pro failed at this as demonstrated by <@471334973379706900>

Gary Marcus getting his own AGI definition beat before anyone else
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/smooth-move-cow-gif-16191603673901327691
xskydragon0: Holy Cow
st.sioux: ai winter
clevermoniker: yeah, making a coffee is a harder than this, but at least its getting there
campionunbound: https://x.com/deitaone/status/1915947090649239587?s=46&t=AfygPPVmbT-hFJR03pEcVg
brain4brain: (I actually misremembered, it was cleaning in an unseen environment not making a coffee, sorry about that)

https://x.com/physical_int/status/1914724966362440148?t=mfOZX8QjsUfNa0u_1DgJrQ&s=19
brain4brain: It was revealed to me in a dream
ldj: link?
brain4brain: Steve Wozniak’s cup of coffee benchmark was achieved last week, but not in a general system, but wow
.histic: AI is surprisingly good for mental health if you give it a chance.
joaoluz19: Roon entered sam's account
anathemaofmankind: Or being in a good country but killing yourself because of mental health issues
ldj: https://youtu.be/mRD0-GxqHVo?si=CUh1vGu_R7B27YdW
ldj: The lyrics of the song heat waves goes like this:
"All I think about is you, late night in the **middle of Jun**e"
ldj: here:
ldj: If anybody is curious of how I know OpenAI is planning an open source release for June <:berk:750111476483752166>
zoermena: Stuff me
futurist_wizard: Please hivemind save us and stuff
futurist_wizard: Fucked up world we built, humans need to go
alejandrozarzuelo: Think of how unlucky it is to be born in this century but in Gaza and you end up dying at 15 instead of 150000
hikukomoru: Gn babe 🫦
sekirow: If you look at the history of AI, its usually not that smooth
futurist_wizard: You know how unlucky that would be, our lifespans were 0.00..1% the potential but we were born just a smidge too early
joaoluz19: The chad futurist hill vs the virgin clock fool
alejandrozarzuelo: OK gonna sleep
alejandrozarzuelo: Extinction by AI, not by cringe things like climate change
futurist_wizard: It'd be over for us at least
alejandrozarzuelo: As long as something happens... I am ok with it

I just dread the idea of humanity existing as it does today in 2100, extinction would at least be interesting
futurist_wizard: 😞 literally over 😿
futurist_wizard: I can't use emojis anymore..
hikukomoru: You fell off hard 🥀
hikukomoru: Emojis
Futurist Hill would never
futurist_wizard: Like what
sekirow: but it doesnt really matter to me since I have a good chance surviving up to 2050


spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: this means gemini 2.5 pro performs better
zonchao: they did use more compute for arc
zonchao: <a:mhm:1277135886320009316>
ldj: I guess when they say SOTA they mean pass@1 probably
zonchao: really? thought epochs new tweet mentioned o4 (17%) being sota
ldj: And still is
ldj: The true default score (even since the original O3 announcement) was about 10% on frontier math though
ldj: When allowed to do extra test time sampling and attempts yea.
zonchao: ig he is confusing it with arc agi
spicy.lemonade: it didnt score 25% on frontier math
ldj: What’s your evidence for the released version not being the same one that scored 25% on frontier math?
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
ldj: It’s not all about coding, most geniuses in the world can’t code at all
professorheaven: Every pilot study I’ve seen on UBI shows that it actually lowers crime rate, lowers truancy, improves mental health and increases overall prosperity. Saying “it makes people lazy” is ignoring so many variables that are involved here
.histic: also, if it can do 1%, then it can add 1% of value to the economy, that's like 1 trillion worth.
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-funnt-cat-black-cat-sleepy-cat-gif-16409614852005252877
himekokatagiri: it'll be worth it if I survive
zoermena: Time to pray
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
himekokatagiri: still haven't forgotten the whole 'AGI is here' thing
himekokatagiri: yeah hype is off the charts
.histic: yes, and i think it's overhyped. for some reason it just doesn't code well in my tests.
and based on the benchmarks, the improvement over the previous SOTA, which was 2.5 pro, isn't that different.
the version they released isn't even the one that scored around 25% on frontier math. it's a watered down version.
also, when Deep Research came out, Sam claimed it could handle a single digit percentage of all economically valuable tasks worldwide. that sounds exaggerated to me. i think it's much lower and highly dependent on the field and work you're doing. lots of supervision is needed.
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dance-uporot-brazil-gif-13264739
himekokatagiri: oh no! anyways
himekokatagiri: also I'm at the whims of the brazilian government
himekokatagiri: I work for an app
himekokatagiri: I'm not registered
himekokatagiri: well uh
zonchao: dario is the realest ceo
zonchao: post agi your employer will be legally required to certify you lost your job to agi to receive UBI ✅ this is the worst case scenario where agi doesn't take everything in a couple months but instead is a long process, dario is working against this, sama says he is working toward it(but he is not)
zonchao: didn't another study come out from germany that said it changed nothing
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: ubi advocates act like ubi has no downsides, ubi shouldn't be introduced pre-Singularity or it will lower productivity
.wolfnacht: unless u need medical attention urgently
professorheaven: I mean isn’t that the point? The singularity is supposed to make life easier
professorheaven: Yea canada is very socialist
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: ubi makes people lazy
professorheaven: Enlighten me
zonchao: i mean it's pretty simple, it cannot complete a single speed run, even though it knows all the strats and tricks... not asking it to be creative and set up a base... just a speedrun
ldj: Have you actually tried O3