fractalcomputer: Lurie and Scholze are good because over the course of their lives they've developed a unique, personal mathematic heuristic that lets them find equally unique and creative perspectives on familiar structures or clunky formalism.
spicy.lemonade: also a bit of burnout
spicy.lemonade: they cant resist
spicy.lemonade: with a 1 million dollar salary
spicy.lemonade: cause they score high on the IMO and janestreet recruits them
fractalcomputer: The folly of applied mathematics strikes again.
fractalcomputer: Of course there are the occasional outliers - like Lurie or Scholze - but they're not good at research simply because they're highly adept proble solvers as well.
spicy.lemonade: I think bc alot of imo gold medalists get dragged into quant
fractalcomputer: One has a plethora of IMO golden medalists that happen to amount to nothing in their mathematical careers.
fractalcomputer: And letting researcher automata wander about the axiomatic landscape freely is not exactly a fiscally responsible strategy; seeing the infinitude of mathematics.
spicy.lemonade: Yeah it’s over
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: In 3 days
spicy.lemonade: 412% jump
fractalcomputer: Eh. Let's suppose these things are actually making meaningful progress towards advancing mathematical research - of which we have yet seen almost no indication - then it is fairly evident that economic interests will almost certainly constrain the kind of mathematics automated research will focus on, perhaps even out of a pure human factor; optimising solutions in applied mathematics or whatever it is that those accursed fiends (applied mathematicians) do with their time happens to be far more useful and interesting for financial reasons than studying something like developing techniques in reconstructing arithmetic varieties from their étale fundamental groups or answering questions in more general number theory.
st.sioux: pour one out for homie fractal
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609
joaoluz19: Fractal being replaced by LLM's
wellmeaningalien: Its joever for mathematicians. Fractals getting replacd too
wellmeaningalien: WTF GOING ON
wellmeaningalien: DAMN
wellmeaningalien: Just a few days ago they were posting all models getting solo'd by USAMO and now we already a 4th the way there
sweetievee__33649: i am still so supprised
wellmeaningalien: This is so fucking crazy
wellmeaningalien: oh shit already posted
alejandrozarzuelo: Being good at proofs they never have seen before, and concatenating theorems in ways they never saw truly proves that they reason their way out of these problems

But, for obvious reasons, this is much much harder than just getting the correct result
spicy.lemonade: it wouldve got 2 100% right
spicy.lemonade: ngl if it had to run once
spicy.lemonade: Fr
alejandrozarzuelo: The proofs are always the pitfall of these systems
fractalcomputer: Certainly for someone of your ilk.
alejandrozarzuelo: Impressive
alejandrozarzuelo: I did
spicy.lemonade: And it was very thorough with its proofs
spicy.lemonade: About median
spicy.lemonade: 24.40% on usamo
spicy.lemonade: Did you see this
alejandrozarzuelo: As I said, the logic of each system is very different, so it's not really easy to compare
hey1_1hey: https://x.com/sama/status/1907207515739435200 SamA vague posting again <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk what they do in other degrées, probably nothing useful


ailoveyoom: You wanna go into AI and you hate data science 😩
trojan09205: Hot take i dont agree with lol
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: ohh
trojan09205: Im asking if you practice Ml and data science programming
spicy.lemonade: its poor mans cs
anathemaofmankind: Crazy
spicy.lemonade: also fuck data science
spicy.lemonade: eletrical engineering and computer science
trojan09205: Wat
artemisfowl887394: I just got a new job as a Senior Content Executive at a University. But even I know it's not ganna last long.
spicy.lemonade: electrical engineering
spicy.lemonade: but i fuckin hate
zonchao: https://x.com/Andr3jH/status/1916515499447402507
spicy.lemonade: im eecs
okbut: Important to remember the grace of that "top-x university" is the opportunities it offers for impactful/hands-on experience
Uni is as good as any community college, correspondence school, etc. if one just rots in the dorm and submits the homework
spicy.lemonade: im more than fine
joaoluz19: Quite the opposite, I learn English with you 🙂
spicy.lemonade: +nasa internship lined up
spicy.lemonade: and that job literally managing the systems for my university
joaoluz19: It's over
spicy.lemonade: and I already have a job before freshman year is over
spicy.lemonade: ill be fine
spicy.lemonade: I got in for the most competative major(eecs which is seperate from straight cs) at top 1-2 cs uni.
trojan09205: <@471334973379706900> are you into machine learning and data science
fractalcomputer: Right. Definitely nothing like that going on here.
spicy.lemonade: nah normies just make up reasons
okbut: Wrappercelled
trojan09205: Im a more AI augmentation person vs let AI just do its own thing
anathemaofmankind: AI would just self teach in a simulation
okbut: Robots is so short on data for AI it's scary
trojan09205: Jobs are all about doing things in reality and basically also being business savvy
okbut: I hope to see more out of their robotics program regarding AI and data
ailoveyoom: Tbf that's what they all say tho
spicy.lemonade: idk about normies
spicy.lemonade: III will still have a job. i go to a top1-2 cs uni
trojan09205: I very often try to share internship and mentor opportunities from my company but usually its for masters or phd students
fractalcomputer: I think certain Discord servers would become much nicer environs if users were forced to provide proof of speaking and writing English to a respectable degree.
trojan09205: O i c
anathemaofmankind: Why even talk about jobs when AGI will arrive in a few years.

It's so over


hikukomoru: Low taste tester detected
joaoluz19: Hot goth
hikukomoru: That's your wife bro!!! She looks so good
st.sioux: i finally got native 4o in chat
zoermena: Wow
st.sioux: she creeps me out
st.sioux: why do so many people simp for this woman
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972>
joaoluz19: We are so back it's crazy
777agical:
joaoluz19: Dalle can't mantain consistence too
zoermena: It looks like dalle
joaoluz19: And dalle can't make images like this
joaoluz19: No I am not because I can edit images
zoermena: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
zoermena: You are using dalle you fool
joaoluz19: No, chatgpt
zoermena: Are you using sora
joaoluz19: I asked it to make a poem in portuguese and was so wrong
joaoluz19: Gpt fuck up with text of other languages
zoermena: 4o is insanely good
zonchao: true
joaoluz19: Yep
joaoluz19: It's weird that I ask GPT to make women more beautiful and it actually does it
futurist_wizard: Is the new o4 image gen out?
jonvi_1: I’ve not been able to get it to edit images though :/
jonvi_1:
777agical: yea
joaoluz19: 4o? Lol
777agical:
clevermoniker: Imagine a near sota DeepSeek image model.... probably not happening anytime soon sadly if ever
joaoluz19: The image gen maintains consistency between characters and clothing lol
wolf3404: to give you nightmares of course
clevermoniker:
joaoluz19: We need China
clevermoniker: this is why we will always need open source <:hehe:1136619235662118983>
joaoluz19: Can't generate sensual woman
joaoluz19: The bug is still there fuck these twinks man
clevermoniker: sama telling you to only generate hot guys and not hot woman <:idk:1136264106937171999>
technocake.: the hotness of the lady is proportional to her scaryness


anathemaofmankind: Yuri incest
futurist_wizard: I also live with parents, no way would i being anyone back here
alejandrozarzuelo: Can I? Sure

Do I? Sporadically

But damn it's not easy, specially since I don't like hook-ups much

If we can't have a 6h conversation before fucking I don't want it
hikukomoru: No gay sex for alehandro 🥀
futurist_wizard: There are people that live on campus and shit
futurist_wizard: Especially if you go to uni
okbut: Thailand be like "We're the only Southeast Asian country never colonized 😎 " and then drive on the left side of the road
futurist_wizard: You can't go to other peoples places?
hikukomoru: I love toxic yuri
alejandrozarzuelo: I only do now that I live with my parents and can't be asexually active
futurist_wizard: I wouldn't know
futurist_wizard: I don't watch porn anymore
anathemaofmankind: The art is garbage I agree
alejandrozarzuelo: Like sexual predators level of horrible
hikukomoru: Total Yuri Love
alejandrozarzuelo: Like, genuinely horrible
alejandrozarzuelo: Most yaoi is horrible
futurist_wizard: Silence degen
hikukomoru: Gross
anathemaofmankind: Wrong
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, exactly, unions work like that

You slowly agree to cooperate more and more, and sovereignty gets shared and taken away

That is how the EU basically works as a single country now

ASEAN hopefully will follow the same steps or peacefully handing independence to a shared committee
futurist_wizard: Yaoi > yuri
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stupid-patrick-patrick-star-gif-14657656412172056045
futurist_wizard: Art of the deal
futurist_wizard: https://x.com/stephenm/status/1910052531742421475?s=46&t=v-eDL0MBOVTElyTWdzNzZQ
okbut: History has taught us that the best direction toward alliance is a peaceful handover of independence
alejandrozarzuelo: Tokyo is a different country to the rest of Japan

It happens a lot if you think about it
hikukomoru: You would think all of the yuri and yaoi manga would mean Japan is super LGBT
But no
alejandrozarzuelo: I am ok with this too
alejandrozarzuelo: An EU like arrangement would probably be the best for everyon
futurist_wizard: China is a province of Taiwan
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah no, mainland China is actually better than Japan and Korea

Well, Japan has improved recently a lot too
alejandrozarzuelo: I would like both Chinese goverments to approach slowly and have some sort of comprehensive union, without needing to compromise
rayanquitplayin: I thought China was entirely against LGBT
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, Taiwanese politics has created a weird but unique mix in the island
okbut: Taiwan is one of those weird provinces in full visa control of all other Chinese provinces entering theirs
hikukomoru: Alejandro is an imperialist
Just a while ago he was talking about annexing Puerto Rico into the new Spanish Empire
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't?
futurist_wizard: Not a joke
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah Taiwan is China for the good and the bad and everything in between


brain4brain: Oog, I never thought you would betray the singularity… also AI doesn’t steal, the antis are on a non-existent moral high ground
otub: maybe they have a better eye than you
spicy.lemonade: no it doesnt lmao
spicy.lemonade: "it looks absolutly dogshit and disgusting"
spicy.lemonade: they are coping on the quality
spicy.lemonade: I dont care about the ethical arguements theyre making
spicy.lemonade: is my point
spicy.lemonade: objectivwely wrong
spicy.lemonade: they say it looks shit
spicy.lemonade: no
oooooooooog: "If ai art is bad, why are artists so mad"
if you really can't understand, i guess i can explain it to you.
people get upset when other people do things they find to be unethical, or things that negatively impact them.
gen-ai is trained on massive amounts of data, naturally, there are artists who did not consent to their work being taken which they find to be unethical.
the second half being that it negatively impacts them, well, that's sort of obvious, so i don't need to explain.
finally, the claim itself isn't totally correct. artists anger is purely in relation to how good it is.
spicy.lemonade: jumbled up
spicy.lemonade: that looked obviously fake
spicy.lemonade: if someone shoed you an absolutly shity image
brain4brain: We should also buy likes for any pro-AI post we see, it’s only a few dollars but it can shift the narrative heavily
brain4brain: Now it’s on twitter instead
brain4brain: And the comment limit is shit for actually making logical argument
brain4brain: There are almost no pro-AI TikTok user
brain4brain: I did that on TikTok back when no one was pro-AI 😔
spicy.lemonade: im fighting a 1v200 rn
brain4brain: It’s a crusade on twitter, for the first time ever normies are openly defending and supporting pro-AI narrative while the anti-AI “people” is getting more vicious and aggressive
3ds0662: how we all feel
3ds0662: the true r/singularity
spicy.lemonade: how am I wrong
QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/6ynJSC1p
spicy.lemonade: ?
oooooooooog: are you being dumb on purpose
spicy.lemonade: hmm somethings off
spicy.lemonade: and therefore ignore
spicy.lemonade: you should be able to tell
spicy.lemonade: if it looks shit
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: why are artists mad
spicy.lemonade: if AI art is so bad
spacetimetsunami: Season 4 is in 2026
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/andarxrr-gif-8928526013272598729
hikukomoru: Sounds like a nice wet dream 🥵
oooooooooog: conquest after he discovered how to shrink and expand eyeball
wellmeaningalien: sure but this is my image of u in the dream
oooooooooog: dream of ninja.io


.wolfnacht: i still miss 1206 and thinking 12-19
3ds0662: It’s the last week of march impossible R2 isn’t releasing till April and that goes for all the other models too no serious releases this month
3ds0662: Hmm 🤔
3ds0662: https://x.com/teortaxestex/status/1904072724789579838?s=46
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1jiqi81/new_deepseek_v3_vs_r1_first_is_v3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
spicy.lemonade: yes
thedon7075: even their reasoning model?
precariousworlds.: gaymini apart from image editing is shit
spicy.lemonade: dk why thats overlooked
spicy.lemonade: even cheaper than deepseek models
spicy.lemonade: gemini has been the cheapest
spicy.lemonade: how
thedon7075: because of cost
thedon7075: r2
spicy.lemonade: which will be better r2 or 2.0 pro thinking
thedon7075: r2 is coming
alejandrozarzuelo: its been a long while since ive laughed so hard at a meme
brain4brain: Balkan rage 🏁🇳🇵📫
precariousworlds.: turkiye strong 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇲🇳
brain4brain: Rule Britannia 🇸🇦🇦🇱
precariousworlds.: Rule Britannia 🇬🇧 🇮🇳🇮🇷
brain4brain: You fool, Serbia is Gibraltar, not the other way around, we must handover all of the territories for the UK to occupy like they did with North Korea
hey1_1hey: People who dont agree with me are wrong and should be killed type
precariousworlds.: Genocide everyone I dont like
hey1_1hey: I misread your message compeltly baseiclly
hey1_1hey: I was weighing up if you were calling for genocide and then was then like "Prob not... doesn't seem like something he would do".
precariousworlds.:
brain4brain: Wow, I never knew lobotomy was also mandatory there, very cool, comrades
brain4brain: No, UK-occupied North Korean territory
precariousworlds.: ????????????????
hey1_1hey: I was gonna write out a whole response because I thought you were implying smth but I'll just assume you're pro lobotmy and move on <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
precariousworlds.: It would probably be a net improvement in some areas
hey1_1hey: Nah the US
precariousworlds.: Serbia?
brain4brain: Lobotomy is mandatory in my country, you need to get one every week, 10/10 would recommend
brain4brain: R2, GPT-5, Extropic new computing engine, open-source o3

All tomorrow
precariousworlds.: based
hey1_1hey: Yeah, I had mine last week and I have seen nothing except good results. 10/10, would lobotomy again
precariousworlds.: this is coming from personal experience?
hey1_1hey: We need to legalise lobotomies again, they were pretty effective if you ask me


hey1_1hey: THIS MF
wellmeaningalien:
st.sioux: <@439829942310666250> look at the first thing i get when opening sora
spicy.lemonade: ALL OF THESE ARE EYE CANDY
hikukomoru: OAI isn't gonna open source shit bro 🙏
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: bro ion have access yet im just stealing pictures rn lmao
hikukomoru: Car rental sign artists are so done for 🔥
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I didn't even do that 😭
hikukomoru: <@458069236825194506> make an anime mushroom girl 🙏
oooooooooog: shouldn't have checked the box little bro
spicy.lemonade: SAM GIVE ME THE MODEL NOW
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Looks like that one language Trent is learning
hey1_1hey: You do not need to search the web for that
hey1_1hey: FUCK YOU MEAN YOU'RE SEARCHING THE WEB
hikukomoru: This is not a real language bro
wellmeaningalien: yes
hikukomoru: Is that fat jesus
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: eerie picture
wellmeaningalien: yup
wellmeaningalien: horny old guys on tinder already get scammed enough as is
hikukomoru: I'm poor fuckers 🔥
spicy.lemonade: is that the jesus tomb
hey1_1hey: I should prob give context but Imma leave it blank so I seem weird and mysteriouse online
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I just had flash backs to seeing the words "gay orgy" <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: so many lonely poor fuckers are going to get scammed
spicy.lemonade: i genuinly feel like we are in the future
hikukomoru: Ditched us for a gay orgy 😔
spicy.lemonade: AI is crazy man
hey1_1hey: Off gooning prob
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I should make an alt account with a pretty women as the pfp and become a piggy bank for Komoru
hikukomoru: Where is Alejandro in all of this 💔
.histic: bro.. the iphone is so realistic.
wellmeaningalien: u would get scammed very easily
st.sioux: i texted my dad an image it made and he told me it was fake lol that it didnt make it


futurist_wizard: https://tenor.com/view/london-meme-knife-united-kingdom-gif-10112244848955503448
.wolfnacht: also, why they had to retire it soo quick from OR 😭
.wolfnacht: so, optimus = 4.1 ? and quasar is 4.1 mini ?
zonchao: i tuned in, he pulled it up, the chicken bot, and like I came back 20 mins later and he was still yapping about boston and chinese humanoids <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/scream-peppermint-can-i-have-a-peppermint-spicy-black-gif-18402373
st.sioux: 🤯 based based based 🤯
hey1_1hey: I think unitree is prob the msot advanced and boston is prob lagging behind atm tho
hey1_1hey: Damn how based
ailoveyoom: 😈
ailoveyoom: <@848793071579693107>
ailoveyoom: https://job-boards.greenhouse.io/deepmind/jobs/6789253
zonchao: he was showing boston dynamics on stream today <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard: cockroach man only has good opinions on the best spot to wipe off his bleeding gums
hey1_1hey: Cockroach man also has some very based takes on AI actuall
futurist_wizard: cockroach man
hey1_1hey: 5'6 actually. Just looked it up
hey1_1hey: Cant really get much worse
hey1_1hey: Also bald
hey1_1hey: 4'11 body builder on steroids
precariousworlds.: Looks like a neanderthal lol
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/testingcatalog/status/1911880835994694133
hey1_1hey: He just has so many based takes
hey1_1hey: Mike isratel is one of my favourite "AI" youtubers.
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/asmon-asmongold-asmon-gold-streamer-gif-14367015105928358791
gamerbath: bodybuilder? he looks more like a headbuilder
himekokatagiri: cope mode on
himekokatagiri: It's an entire week right
himekokatagiri: Okay what else is OAI gonna announce
futurist_wizard: upload
futurist_wizard: bodybuilder man
futurist_wizard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7blFVMmqzdk
sieventer: 2.5 Pro has 65k output max output tokens
destrucules: Also May 2024? Bruh. That's so long ago 😭
destrucules: It's 1048576, not 1047576
destrucules: Lmao they made a typo in the context length
st.sioux: did they update their models page in the developer site?
destrucules: 4.1 mini does
destrucules: Imo 4.1 nano does not pass the vibe check
wellmeaningalien: whats going on google deepmind
destrucules: Anyone play with the 4.1 models yet? What's the vibe, especially for the smaller ones?


wellmeaningalien: a lot of people have done this but the thing about agi is that it could as well come in many shapes and sizes and has many different superfluous definitions, just as a human has 80 billion neurons and a whale has 500 billion neurons. considering the fact we know so little about the brain neither, and how to really quantify the intelligence of a synapse, there have been estimates but only educated guesses.
wellmeaningalien: that werent even widespread in the beginning
wellmeaningalien: do y'all even remember nightshade was a thing and ive seen people mocking that scaling models will get rid of the effects
joaoluz19: Guys, using our knowledge of algorithmic complexity and computer architecture (classical) can we calculate the minimum computational power needed to run an AGI or ASI?

Suppose we find the trillion-dollar algorithm that can make the computer interpret and produce knowledge of the world.
wellmeaningalien: every time a post on social media about a new tool to poison AI image / text datasets comes out and luddites go "Hooray reddit! We've done it! We've defeated AI" while AI continues to gets betters
theaiguy69420_89814: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna199420
clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/_akhaliq/status/1907977583301472505
wolf3404: So is Devin 2 better than Replit or not
brain4brain: Wow, it’s like watching Pantheon in text form without the family dynamic
brain4brain: I thought the Chinese stealing part was wild and funny, I was not prepared for the ending
brain4brain: Why is this website cool af: https://ai-2027.com/
brain4brain: Thats the pre mystery model era, my post now gets a few likes and more views than before 😎
futurist_wizard:
clevermoniker: i do love open source too, but i like testing frontier capabilities to see what's next. Most of my gens would not involved 4o because of censorship tho and even tho i almost never gen ||nudity||, i do make ||teasing stuff even if its fully clothed||
.histic: it's over.
futurist_wizard:
.histic: probably
futurist_wizard: Placebo
futurist_wizard: Idk
futurist_wizard: It seems to be better
futurist_wizard: Did openai update the image ting
trent_k:
.histic: mf changes their pfp every hour
trent_k: Your new profile picture is nice. Good job
hikukomoru: Bro gets zero likes and zero retweets not like anyone’s gonna see it anyways
st.sioux: damn bro why you gotta do him like that
.histic: true, we need authoritarianism.
trent_k: Fuck free speech
brain4brain: There was never free speech on X
zoermena: Damn ok 🫠
brain4brain: Never posting you anyways don't worry
zoermena: If you ever post me censor me please <@848793071579693107>
spicy.lemonade: Don’t mind
st.sioux: free speech is cringe
drewsni: I just think you’re cringe
trent_k: I have a xitter and I've only ever xeeted like 2 or 3 times and 1 of them got me suspended. Free speech my ass
brain4brain: Drewsny tried to make ragebait and failed miserably 🙏🏻
futurist_wizard: Deported to El Salvador
st.sioux: straight to guantanamo
trent_k: I'm joining ms13


drewsni: No offense Alejandro
drewsni: Why is everyone being weird in the last like 30 minutes
alejandrozarzuelo: An eternal universe, or any universe that is infinite in at least one of the dimensions implies the possibility of infinite copies of <@749514473303179358> existing, several of which would be significantly more sympathetic and amicable than him
spacetimetsunami: How come?
fractalcomputer: I'd be quite bothered by an eternal universe.
spacetimetsunami: Yet inflationary
spacetimetsunami: Eternal universe
spacetimetsunami: Yeah true. It would be crazy if true
fractalcomputer: Too inconclusive results in order to predict a particular theory.
spacetimetsunami: That fascinates me
spacetimetsunami: What do you think of Roger Penrose’s conformal cyclical cosmology (CCC)?
fractalcomputer: Curious.
fractalcomputer: Cosmology is indeed quite fun.
spacetimetsunami: I’m super interested in astrophysics and cosmology, just haven’t done the research I want to
spacetimetsunami: Yeah. Used to do consults for people looking to expand their maxillas, interested in jaw surgeries and how to naturally optimize the function/structure of their faces.
fractalcomputer: I would've thought you the physics type.
fractalcomputer: Dentistry? That is quite unusual for someone in these quarters.
spacetimetsunami: That shit
spacetimetsunami: Like modern humans having underdeveloped facial skeletons relative to relatively recent ancestors
spacetimetsunami: Don’t know a lot about it, relative to everything else. A bit but, things I know most about, in order is
1. Airway dentistry and Orthodontics
2. General cosmology and astronomy

And like, random other shit. I know *so* much about the first thing though, was obsessed with it worked in ortho and researched for years
fractalcomputer: What do you think of physics?
fractalcomputer: Pity.
spacetimetsunami: Also no clue. I have no idea which I would be highest in but I would assume perceptual reasoning.

I had it done in high school because I thought I was actually retarded. Turns out, just have severe ADHD, pure o OCD, lol
fractalcomputer: I'm not particularly interested in quantifying myself in that sense; it is a repugnantly narcissistic way of thinking, and if it's one thing that I do not want to encourage, it's my narcissistic tendencies.
fractalcomputer: But that could just be autism.
fractalcomputer: That I have no idea. I only know that I have a verbal memory much higher than the average person.
spacetimetsunami: Like the WAIS-IV
spacetimetsunami: I think that comes from the more elaborate iq tests
spacetimetsunami: Have you ever tested your processing speed, verbal comprehension, quantitative reasoning, etc?
fractalcomputer: But I'd be a fool to think that would be the limit of what I can do. Innocence is a significant factor in cognitive creativity.
fractalcomputer: Right about ~140 since the last time I took that test.
spacetimetsunami: Well, tied with online score. Not offline.
spacetimetsunami: I am tied with 2.5 pro rn. What’s your score?
fractalcomputer: Besides, membership would be entirely superfluous. Would a particular instance of a model (whatever that would mean) be a member or would the model, as a product, be a member?
fractalcomputer: No, because Mensa is an egoist club.
memlaswaif: will we get an ai thats accepted into mensa this year
fractalcomputer: Most certainly.
fractalcomputer: The online test isn't their "primary" test. They offer one in private but you'd have to be a fool to pay for that expense.
ldj: So mensa norway being online is more like the exception and not the rule really
ldj: Many of the legitimate Iq treats are never published on the internet


retrerox: No
sweetievee__33649: this you?
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/headpats-gif-18218266808223957213
retrerox: Maybe 👉 👈 😳
sweetievee__33649: oh you into that furry shit
retrerox: I got rengar from league 😔 👌
sweetievee__33649: are they going to kiss
retrerox: I cant hold my laugh
sweetievee__33649: 🙏 Sam Altman please 👉 👈
retrerox: man im dying
sweetievee__33649: i need an anime husbundo/waifu
destrucules: You're absolutely right about why UBI will be delayed until it's a crisis. But the crisis will happen. You can't have a country of 200 million people starving to death and expect to keep the price of Uber Eats steady
retrerox: Furries will be happy once that happen 🐱
joaoluz19: Lets goooo
_3sphere: Pleasure cube enjoyers will die out 😭
retrerox: Cant wait Neuralink let me have my own virtual husbando
joaoluz19: On that day we will see that humanity has succeeded.
retrerox: Didnt let me use trump or china president 😭
retrerox: AI losing power
_3sphere: Superhuman waifu persuasion
spicy.lemonade: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> .
fractalcomputer: And we're not even scratching the surface of the vast sea of problems posed by superhuman persuasion.
fractalcomputer: Or, for example, if a superintelligence with a particular penchant for abstract mathematics revealed to us - by some twist of fate - a *finite* albeit practically inexecutable or incomprehensible proof by human standards for some known interesting problem or conjecture etc., human mathematicians wouldn't *and* shouldn't naturally accept the proof.
futurist_wizard: What he said
fractalcomputer: And that is a very naive conception of the epistemological capabilities of a superintelligence; indeed, there conceivably arise novel reasons for sceptic doubt when interacting with such intelligences, e.g., one can never really understand the ulterior motives of such an intelligence for revealing given knowledge or never really know whether whatever it would claim as truth is an adequate representation of - in some sense - objective reality insofar as it perceives it.
futurist_wizard: It wouldn't be omniscient
joaoluz19: True
joaoluz19: At most what you can have is a global maximum in the companion vector space
_3sphere: Pleasure maximization vs agency maximization
futurist_wizard: If you rewired your brain anything could give you 100x bliss
joaoluz19: There's no problem in pursuing other things like a higher purpose, but it's always good to keep in mind that the types of emotions a waifu can stimulate can go far beyond what this world can offer, even if you're the "luckiest" person in that regard.
_3sphere: True but like in terms of knowledge
futurist_wizard: It can die just like us
futurist_wizard: It definitely isn't god
_3sphere: We all kinda just think superintelligence = God 🙃
futurist_wizard: Like fist fighting or being a criminal
futurist_wizard: That is true, just saying i feel like I'd be prioritised with other things in a total matrix like simulation
hikukomoru: I can live in the Reykjavik sewers
hikukomoru: Wrong
I’m a sewer rat so I belong in the sewers
fractalcomputer: It is interesting to note that there has not been as much talk of the epistemics of superintelligence (implications thereof, etc.) as there has been for the ethics of superintelligence (the goal theses etc.), when it is precisely the inhuman epistemological capacities of superintelligence that characterise a superintelligent entity.


memlaswaif: Probably a while
spacetimetsunami: No, I mean levels of computation relative to cognitive tasks.
destrucules: Humans typically use about 10^24 FLOPs to reach cognitive maturity
destrucules: Already are
oooooooooog: is it because subaru is cringe... ??? i can get that at least. sometimes i have to close my eyes when that happens, or it's too intense for me
futurist_wizard: And then you became happy after rejecting anime
oooooooooog: what part in particular bro
oooooooooog: how 😭
futurist_wizard: Gay men are happy when they are kissing boys, this isn't a coincidence
memlaswaif: rezero single handedly made me stop watching weeb stuff
oooooooooog: thats what the word means
futurist_wizard: Happiness is gay
oooooooooog: it's harder to do
oooooooooog: whereas u can't get sad by frowning
oooooooooog: happy
oooooooooog: you just have to smile and bam
oooooooooog: but it's way too easy to feel happy
oooooooooog: me too, it's my favorite feeling
futurist_wizard: I think the real world has a positive ratio on suffering
memlaswaif: I like being happy
oooooooooog: real life already has as much happieness as you need, thats why you get the suffering from fictions
memlaswaif: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142> no
futurist_wizard: Weebs do not have muscle mass
oooooooooog: the suffering is what makes it good though.... ???
memlaswaif: well I read the ln too and it was trash I had to drop it
memlaswaif: nothing good ever happens in that anime
oooooooooog: ur cooked lil bro
memlaswaif: It's too much sufferring porn
memlaswaif: I'm hating lol
futurist_wizard: Terraria is kinda mid
oooooooooog: also don't wory memla's waif i was joking about torturing you
oooooooooog: idc if you slander me
oooooooooog: i meant re zero terraria ninja.io slander
st.sioux: no emojin cringe
futurist_wizard: Terraria
oooooooooog: what jokes
memlaswaif: Joke on u
memlaswaif:
st.sioux: you ugly >:)
oooooooooog: i can't take the slander


.histic: wait, whats ur user on reddit
spicy.lemonade: Kind of the point of the sub
spicy.lemonade: Not farming then
.histic: anything interesting or insightful ig
spicy.lemonade: How would you farm
spicy.lemonade: Like with respect to singularity
spicy.lemonade: What’s that
.histic: i farm karma meaninglessly.
just engagement farming
spicy.lemonade: Which is odd conscidering people are more likeley to vote than comment
spicy.lemonade: We have same amount of comments
spicy.lemonade: I think this means my posts are hella controversial
.histic: here's my flex 😎
spicy.lemonade: My r/singularity posts always average like 80k views and 500 upvotes lol
wolf3404: https://x.com/grok/status/1912318583532872166
ldj: or just something with RL
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
ldj: GPT scaling hypothesis
ldj: ok dm me
spicy.lemonade: Lemme send
ldj: what did your post contain?
ldj: what was the rage bait?
spicy.lemonade: I’m crying
spicy.lemonade: Saw friends DMs
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: How did I manage to rage bait ceo of epoch
spicy.lemonade: My post on 2.5
robert_46007: help. I have been banned a few days ago on r/singularity  whatever the reason I did not break any rule intentionally (and I still see many posts like mine) I tried writing to mods from reddit but got no answer. Can anyone help or tell me what to do?
ldj: what singularity post
_cloudost: https://www.vxreddit.com/r/OpenAI/s/oVPYKtZNOh wonder what that idea was, Altman.
wolf3404: Intellect 2 training progress
wolf3404: https://app.primeintellect.ai/intelligence/intellect-2
metaldragon01: This is largely the reason
metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1k07qv9/nvidia_shares_drop_6_in_after_hours_trading_after/
spicy.lemonade: Which is strange
spicy.lemonade: Is bc of issues with rate limits still
spicy.lemonade: The reason 2.5 hasn’t been benchmarked
spicy.lemonade: Also
spicy.lemonade: <@312370916820779040> epoch ai is falling apart
spicy.lemonade: Also
spicy.lemonade: They saw my singularity post lmao


st.sioux: because its a personality cult
sieventer: Like RFK hype that basically meant nothing to society
st.sioux: i want to download the pdf but i am scared it has a virus or some shit
trey6033: Fr tho, why put Trump front and center
gamerbath: with trump here on the landing page it looks like a conspiracy theory
gamerbath: yea
sieventer: But it's funny the way it's presented in that website xD
sieventer: Nothing weird about that in 2025
sieventer: It's well-know that COVID is likely to be a lab leak
gamerbath: here's the source, 557 pages of stuff that supposedly proves covid-19 was not natural and created by humans in china
futurist_wizard: Same thing
otub: you mean doge
st.sioux: run for the hills everyone
futurist_wizard: Like some 18 year old Qanon made it
zoermena: Brain rot
futurist_wizard: That is the maddest ting ive seen all day
futurist_wizard: Come on
futurist_wizard: Bro it has to be hacked
gamerbath: oh god
futurist_wizard: What the fuck is going on with covid.gov
futurist_wizard: Oh my fuck
hikukomoru: No that’s Fractal
st.sioux: destrucules is agi
hikukomoru: destrucules says we’ve had AGI since like 2016 or smth
gamerbath: 2025
hikukomoru: 2027
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/argument-won-leaving-thanos-portal-portal-leaving-gif-23953763
aero447: 2035.
abundantliving_: everything computer ?
st.sioux: yes
hikukomoru: How
wolf3404: https://www.palladiummag.com/2025/04/18/the-moon-should-be-a-computer/
himekokatagiri: lol
ai9708: its over
ai9708: nope, agi seems further away than ever within the last few years
mantegh5061: are we winning
trojan09205: It would probably be more sustainable to plan to orchestrate smaller more significant structural developments with quality control every 5 years and implement a 50-75 year plan
trojan09205: Ten years is a very short timespan
abundantliving_: anything exciting today or next week ?
spicy.lemonade: there is more pessimistic normie data out there


retrerox: Exactly
memlaswaif: <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421> what r u sayin
retrerox: Dying allow us to not need to work again so kinda win win?
retrerox: We either exitint or we live without needing to work again
retrerox: I kinda see weird we make ai good on politics. Cuz the only reason why we need politicians is because people are dumb in general
memlaswaif: maybe
memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
retrerox: With a anime girl next to it will make people to not be afraid of ai?
oimrqs: It's fun
memlaswaif: yeah i couldn't help but cringe
.wolfnacht: would be better if there was just phonk instead of that weebshit.
oimrqs: What I love about all this industry is that we will know how right people are pretty quickly, within 3 years this all will be settled
burnytech: https://fxtwitter.com/arithmoquine/status/1908288939586445324
_cloudost:
memlaswaif: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
zonchao: > The federal judge, Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers, denied Musk's request to pause OpenAI's transition to a for-profit model while the lawsuit is ongoing. Instead, the judge opted for an expedited trial, scheduling it for spring 2026.
zonchao: nvm
zonchao: > The condition for SoftBank's investment into OpenAI, as part of the $40 billion funding round announced on March 31, 2025, was that OpenAI must restructure into a for-profit entity by December 31, 2025. If this restructuring does not occur, SoftBank's total investment could be reduced from $40 billion to $20 billion. Specifically, SoftBank agreed to provide an initial $10 billion in April 2025, with an additional $30 billion to follow by the end of 2025, contingent on the successful transition to a for-profit structure.
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
gamerbath: OpenAI's AGI will handle that lawsuit pretty well
zonchao: does this mean he won?
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1908315046997897567?
zonchao: fake news
zonchao: hello
retrerox: Yeah specially the hands move
spicy.lemonade: humans are so slow
futurist_wizard: Just naturally by increasing prices of gpus
spicy.lemonade: cant wait gfor recursive self improvement
futurist_wizard: Killing yes
hikukomoru: Hi zon 👋
zonchao: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1908529639288418624?
fractalcomputer: Much appreciated.
fractalcomputer: It'd be nice if you could speak proper English while voicing your grievances with the state of the subreddit.
hikukomoru: What sub
zonchao: doomers
czdct: just generally
_cloudost: Ig I should invest my time in writing really creative stories then?
brain4brain: By the time you finish the course Veo3 will probably come out and be able to do it, also RunwayML is best for animation right now
.wolfnacht: https://hailuoai.video/create they are giving 100 credits for demo
.wolfnacht: minimax used to give free generations for 5s but that was around the launch


return_to_monke1_33974:
ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: Well he also quite literally said AI programmers will be taking over most of METAs coding work within 18 months
zonchao: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
return_to_monke1_33974: dont want another gronk 3
zonchao: dont want another 4.5
return_to_monke1_33974: opinion (true facts): all companies should give all the compute to OpenAI and Google
zonchao: 4*
ailoveyoom: Hope he makes a comeback 🙏
ailoveyoom: A king fumbles from time to time (Google) but look at them now 😍
literallyvarane: Not terribly shocking, but for me at least confirms META isn’t the same tier of lab as the big 3 US.
literallyvarane: It’s a really interesting interview though. For me it’s quite clear he’s not really even *aiming* for AGI, he’s aiming for a good product to exist within Meta’s existing apps.
zonchao: zucc been fumbling his rebrand recently
rayanquitplayin: I see, 😂
ldj: 2T was already confirmed by Meta weeks ago btw
zonchao: no, was joking about a researcher saying he did not work on llama 4 on his linkedin cus the model sucks so bad, if you worked on it you have less aura points<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
literallyvarane: 8:30+ is really weird? He just blatantly says they tuned for the leaderboard, but doesn’t really explain *why.*

It’s a “yeah everyone knows it can be gamed. We gamed it.”
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't disagree, I do think we will have some off billion androids in the 2040s

I disagree with the curve to get there
rayanquitplayin: You worked on Llama 4?
zonchao: (I DID NOT WORK ON LLAMA 4)
zonchao: is he wearing the new meta glasses?
rayanquitplayin: My first prompt to Meta
zonchao: even if thats the case, highly unlikely, he is cooking the numbers
literallyvarane: It might given it’s technically incorporated to FB/Instagram etc
zonchao: meta ai does not have 1 billion users what is he yappin about
ailoveyoom: Have we just forgotten about sus Maverick 😔
ailoveyoom: So what was the official explanation for goofy Llama perfs tho?
zonchao: he went from mid 2025 to 12-18 months for code 💀
literallyvarane: Bro said Behemoth L4 will be 2T params and “sorta at the frontier.”
fractalcomputer: I can confirm.
return_to_monke1_33974: to a reptilian , the word funny has a diferent meaning
ailoveyoom: Also <@379982824591065108> Meta has an AI app that seems to integrate with their Raybans now
rayanquitplayin: That’ll drop prices too right?
futurist_wizard: This is 100 years
literallyvarane: 1:30 in and the damage control has started lolol
return_to_monke1_33974: car production by year
image how faster  humanoids robots will be
futurist_wizard: The world being funnier is not reassuring
fractalcomputer: Or maybe one should not entertain "hypotheticals" based on a single datum.
literallyvarane: Gassed for this damage control pod
rayanquitplayin: Scaffolding


destrucules: But I've maintained for years now that we achieved AGI sometime between 2018 and 2022 depending on whether you define AGI as
1. General intelligence (2018)
2. Human level intelligence (2020)
3. Matching or exceeding the median human intelligence (2022)
destrucules: Everything moves one year forward
destrucules: I'm explaining
brain4brain: So you shift from AGI 2025 to AGI 2026?
destrucules: And then there was this annoying inching behavior where one lab would exceed GPT-4 level by 0.1%, and then another lab would exceed that level by 0.1%, and then another lab would exceed that by 0.1%
st.sioux: why is it your opinion that nothing happened in 2024
destrucules: If you guys recall, a bunch of labs went right up to GPT-4 capabilities and no further. Like... Conspicuously exact parity with GPT-4. There are more models of GPT-4 capabilities than there are of GPT-3.5 capabilities
destrucules: They basically kept up just enough to prevent people from thinking the industry had died, but not so much that people felt like we were moving forward
oooooooooog: i agree
destrucules: The labs didn't want to attract regulatory attention or make themselves a topic of debates during the election year
destrucules: Nope. DeepSeek didn't start this in motion. November 2024 did, because the election year ended
brain4brain: Maybe it’s gatekept research and the pressure from DeepSeek might form them to release all 2024 research out at once
destrucules: The compute budgets for the frontier models coming out today are well within the compute we had at the beginning of 2024
destrucules: 2024 was just this big empty gap of absolutely nothing happening
destrucules: At the same pace I predicted for 2024
destrucules: 2025 is doing everything I thought 2024 would do
.histic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtcJvurmFhA
lol
destrucules: 2024 was a dead year so my timeline got shifted one year forward
destrucules: Scary amounts of job losses and layoffs
brain4brain: Your timeline have delayed since the last time I remembered
spacetimetsunami: Man I hope so, shiittt…
What do you think EOY this year will be like
destrucules: By definition of "bigger"
destrucules: There is no number bigger than itself
destrucules: That makes absolutely no sense
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
spacetimetsunami: If humans get more hands we don’t get better at solving aging
destrucules: Late 2026
oooooooooog: humans are already super intelligent, it's just that we are limited by out interface and our scaffolding
destrucules: These terms are messy. If you take the letters in AGI seriously, we've had AGI since 2018. If you take ASI to include narrow AIs that are better than humans in at least one thing, we've had those since like... The 1950s
spacetimetsunami: Okay, then when do you think we have models that super intelligently can automate all cognitive tasks , because they’re super intelligent enough AND they have the autonomous capabilities required to go off and do so.
destrucules: But yeah <@452692813511917568> we're already there. What's "missing" is that the AIs are put into very restrictive deployment environments where their affordances are limited by their interface, their scaffolding, not their intelligence
zonchao: <@471334973379706900> https://x.com/Awk20000/status/1905703194329825641?
oooooooooog: isn't that just a point towards my claim though? the big boobies from that prompt are now manifest in a way the human could not previously do, and the combined system now has more intelligence. naturally, the being with more agency lays complete claim to that intelligence

at least, if you take an economic perspective on intelligence
.histic: y'know, i just realized there's no 'G' in ASI, but there is a 'G' in AGI. in some ways, something can be artificially superintelligent, but in other ways not. maybe we already have ASI in certain forms. but that depends on our interpretation - many people would say you need to pass AGI to reach ASI, which implies ASI is generally superintelligent. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
spacetimetsunami: Guess I’ve never seen feigning
spacetimetsunami: Oh
destrucules: feigning means faking
destrucules: *fiending
spacetimetsunami: I’m feigning for that dopamine…
spacetimetsunami: What did


zonchao: magats don't live there
shirethedreamer: we lmao
you think you have a sit at the table
anathemaofmankind: You just said it
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: there are more countries in the worls
anathemaofmankind: You think AI art violates copyright?
alejandrozarzuelo: In the us? sure
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
alejandrozarzuelo: because it violates copyright?
zonchao: we the pro tech party now
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont wanna be associated with them
alejandrozarzuelo: it gives AI art a bad name
zonchao: why
anathemaofmankind: Because why would you?
alejandrozarzuelo: tbh i hate magats using AI
anathemaofmankind: There's no incentive to train something with public works
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, thats the thing, the AIs trained with public works are barely behind SOTA
zonchao: https://x.com/Awk20000/status/1905489244724101126?
anathemaofmankind: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1hayb7v/the_first_images_of_the_public_diffusion_model/
alejandrozarzuelo: Like, most art is public since its been done by people who are not alive anymore
alejandrozarzuelo: It should be easy to train an AI on just public works
alejandrozarzuelo: However
alejandrozarzuelo: The problem is that many people say it's violating copyright law
alejandrozarzuelo: The thing is, both are neural networks that modify themselves when they observe other works of art
anathemaofmankind: Bro just generated hitler and nothing else how dull
anathemaofmankind: Normies are fucking morons so that's how it is
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: with fake art
spicy.lemonade: 8 likes on art server
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: they think all it does is filter
spicy.lemonade: its pissing me off
spicy.lemonade: chatgpt filter
spicy.lemonade: people are calling 4o native image
spicy.lemonade: also
spicy.lemonade: reasoning with image is gonna be another wtf moment
spicy.lemonade: loll
futurist_wizard: This bum should be fired immediately
futurist_wizard: So far it hasn't


.histic: this comment got me
drewsni: Their methodology isn’t scientific in the slightest, I’m offended you’d think I’m that dumb
otub: yw
otub: i looked 10 mins for this
otub:
drewsni: Is someone pretending to be me
.histic: idk, reminded me of you lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jly82c/the_new_4o_is_unreasonably_good_at_guessing/
otub: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/18joehb/i_was_bored_so_i_used_ai_to_make_a_short_manga/
drewsni: Who is that
drewsni: No
.histic: <@88481490228228096> are u FakeTunaFromSubway?
_cloudost: Should I delete their posts
_cloudost: I'm moderating a server that has an AI channel and all the members in the server keep posting anti AI news, I'm the only one that posts pro AI news SMH
zoermena: Decent but not perfect it’s better to get the art style and ask for it
zoermena: Not great
_letterbox: I'm not sure how good it is at mimicking the style of an image you feed to it
_letterbox: https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jltnpz/you_can_now_adapt_an_entire_movie_into_a_comic/

Fuck me if i can make a manga with it i'll shell out that 20 bucks
bob082957: Tweet
.histic: edgy NPCs
joaoluz19: Does anyone have that comic of the guy who says "AGI BITCHES"
_cloudost: they need to be out on a watchlist
st.sioux: why are there so many "die" or "kill ai artists" comments wtf
_cloudost: https://x.com/_alexhirsch/status/1905345424661381384?s=46&t=dds9ctjIf339PZ-apJ-YyQ Someone whose entire career relies on drawing and animating says AI drawing looks like shit, is he possibly in denial because he can't accept the fact that his career will be worth a penny in the next few years?
technocake.: much seething
technocake.: https://www.reddit.com/r/whenthe/comments/1jlydq6/horrible_slop/
apology0759: Anyone who likes horrors?
st.sioux: what is this
bob082957:
3ds0662: Same but if we don’t achieve the singularity
clevermoniker: https://x.com/UnslothAI/status/1904717086041268676
3ds0662: Last one lol 😂 newton vs Albert
QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/SLfhXZe3
QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/f-Za6o_K
3ds0662: Ai video has come a long way
3ds0662: This was soo creative
st.sioux: lmao
QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/CqBQdTDb
technocake.: and super useful for modeling
technocake.: numerically they are a piece of piss
joaoluz19: Yep, horrendous


hikukomoru: I won't feel the AGI until I have an android maid cleaning my house
zoermena: Next month
wellmeaningalien: SATs mean a whole lot about whether u are retarded or intellectually capable
anathemaofmankind: Yes I agree
literallyvarane: GPT 4.20 or 4.69 when?
wellmeaningalien: in that moment we all felt the AGI
hikukomoru: Benchmarks don't really mean that much in the real world
metaldragon01: With longer context
metaldragon01: 4.1 is sonnet 3.7 level
literallyvarane: GPT 3.9 when??
anathemaofmankind: It was above humans in the ARC AGI benchmark
literallyvarane: Get in here we doing ANY type of model name now lololol
hikukomoru: Lmao why
spicy.lemonade: We are so back
anathemaofmankind: I was tricked and thought it was like AGI or smthing
literallyvarane:
spicy.lemonade: Lmaoooo
spicy.lemonade: music right after art
wellmeaningalien: my guess: deepseek v3.1/gemini 2.0 pro level model
ailoveyoom: Bro I remember you being hyped for that o3 reveal on the livestream 😭
spicy.lemonade: lol no way he’s going music
anathemaofmankind: It's gonna be a mid release
anathemaofmankind: Hyping as usual
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/by-the-window-solstafir-season-of-mist-her-fall-from-grace-song-thinking-of-something-gif-18821301
wellmeaningalien: bro is edging our cocks very very VERY hard
abundantliving_: https://x.com/sama/status/1910363838001869199
metaldragon01: Both models strong
metaldragon01: optimus has a lower aider score (see where someone ran it above) and look at my benchmarks lol gpqa diamond is 60% vs quasar alpha at 67%
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/daniel-larson-daniel-larson-daniellarson-lolcow-gif-17950570439600588607
wellmeaningalien: <@471334973379706900> what i tell you boy
anathemaofmankind: Sounds boring as shit
metaldragon01: Check openrouter discord
wellmeaningalien: kekekekekekekek
metaldragon01: It's still good
spicy.lemonade: It just came out
spicy.lemonade: Really?
metaldragon01: Lower coding score I think
metaldragon01: Optimus is mini
wellmeaningalien: hm
spicy.lemonade: Therefore quasar is mini


spicy.lemonade: wdym insignificant
trey6033: Nah, chat needs more roasting
spicy.lemonade: its the fastest growing scientific field of all time
fractalcomputer: Yes, all has been quite insignificant, lol.
spicy.lemonade: its the clearest sign of progress
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: but its not the least sign
fractalcomputer: Right, so it *is* about latching on to the least signs of progress.
spicy.lemonade: people were just saying anything
spicy.lemonade: nothing was happening
spicy.lemonade: tech news was slow
spicy.lemonade: in 2020 ai news was slow
spicy.lemonade: and neuralink doesnt have as many breakthroughs as openAI
spicy.lemonade: because thats not the topic at hand
fractalcomputer: The last time I saw someone writing such nonsense was in 2020.
spicy.lemonade: neuralink and all that
rayanquitplayin: Hi
spicy.lemonade: yes. we wanted ASI such that we can merge with it
fractalcomputer: I've been on the subreddit for roughly a decade.
zoermena: I still want to augment myself, more than anything because my health is ass
fractalcomputer: No?
spicy.lemonade: its always been the second
fractalcomputer: The general sentiment has shifted from augmenting oneself to something more than human in a universe with no limits to trembling in anticipation of human obsolescence.
st.sioux: sheesh
fractalcomputer: It has been an interesting journey to witness the community transforming from the general transhumanist space to something approximating an anxious Messiah cult.
spicy.lemonade: too emberasing to post
spicy.lemonade: lol the chatlog
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/flirt-whose-line-is-it-anyway-you-find-me-very-attractive-seduce-ryan-stiles-gif-5458916
spicy.lemonade: if this fails i blame 4.5
spicy.lemonade: from her point of view
spicy.lemonade: apparemtly
spicy.lemonade: the main issue was me being a bit unserious
spicy.lemonade: I dont want plausible deniability
st.sioux: yea
st.sioux: drunk text
spicy.lemonade: "this boy is horny"
spicy.lemonade: cause she would think
spicy.lemonade: I didnt wanna send it at night
spicy.lemonade: 💀
st.sioux: rip bozo


ailoveyoom: Bro ikr why are anime skirts so short 😭
spicy.lemonade:
trent_k: lmao anime ppl
trent_k: no no no you dont understand the upskirts of the high school girls are for the teenage girl audience, not the adult male audience
futurist_wizard: they all have upskirt shots, its just so sexually implied
anathemaofmankind: Name 10 animes
hikukomoru: K bro
I already know you're one of those "😭" mfs on xitter
wellmeaningalien: (I didnt even think)
wellmeaningalien: I tried
fractalcomputer: That would be wrong.
anathemaofmankind: Uh huh
wellmeaningalien: 1
anathemaofmankind: Wrong mention
hikukomoru: I think you're just pretending to be retarded
anathemaofmankind: Sounds like you were projecting <@505313122802728972>
fractalcomputer: Suppose we have some integer to the power of some other integer. The integer immediately before it is a prime. What are the possible values of the second number mentioned?
ailoveyoom: Ask the AI bro 😭
wellmeaningalien: update it
wellmeaningalien: do it
anathemaofmankind: Well this is not my experience
wellmeaningalien: thats so sad
trent_k: wrote the code ages ago and dont feel like updating it lol
hikukomoru: Most animes have highschool age mcs and all the girls are sexualized
ailoveyoom: Prolly cheaper
wellmeaningalien: have u thought of updating the model to gemini 2.0 flash or sum
ailoveyoom: Why not use Flash?
wellmeaningalien: i mean the users are completely unknowing here
futurist_wizard: Because its self evident you only need to see few clips to get that impression
trent_k: i use claude 3 haiku to classify them
hikukomoru: I watch lots of anime and he's right
wellmeaningalien: LMAOOO
trent_k: read the privacy policy pal 😏
wellmeaningalien: POST
wellmeaningalien: and how do u know they have an anime pfp
trent_k: i made a big post about the data on kiwi farms. there's actually some extremely alarming stuff in there and theres nothing i can do about it because discord wont ban them
hikukomoru: Go ahead 🫦 🫦
Just don't call me a hag
wellmeaningalien: OH MY GOD SO ur bot is in 5000 servers and ur just spying on people lik that
anathemaofmankind: How would you know if you don't watch them
wellmeaningalien: ITS OVER IM GONNA CANCEL U TRENT
ailoveyoom: Does this mean I can call you mommy 😍


wellmeaningalien:
drewsni: someone made dalle slop in 4o lmao
hikukomoru: Woman is temporary
Portuguese Empire is forever 🇵🇹
hey1_1hey: Is that tony starks and elon musks love child
zoermena: I have plus and can´t make images I´m going to cry
wellmeaningalien: the garlic poster making market is in shambles
wellmeaningalien: poor boy is sleeping or something and missing out on this
drewsni:
st.sioux: garlic poster makers are so done bro
hey1_1hey: You see portugal, I see women
We are no the same
wellmeaningalien: let <@688807313015963693> take the spotlight
wellmeaningalien: fuck you portugal youre not part of this
hey1_1hey: Damnnnn
hikukomoru: PORTUGAL SPOTTED!!! 🇵🇹
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: the world is gonna look so vibrant
oooooooooog: go even further beyond
spicy.lemonade: beyond no elephant
spicy.lemonade: holyyyyy
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: It's over, AI winter is upon us
hey1_1hey: Prob the artists bombing them
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Where is AGI 💔
hey1_1hey: I NEED THE NEW MODEL I AM BEGGING YOU I WILL DO ANYTHING
spicy.lemonade: no
zoermena: It´s not working for you either?
drewsni: funs over, servers have burned down
hey1_1hey: People talk about jelouse exs. They dont get autistic jelousy I have rn
spicy.lemonade: GIVE IT NOW
spicy.lemonade: GIVE ME THE MODEL OPENAI
hey1_1hey: Me to
zoermena: I´m so jealous
hikukomoru: I wanted to post Chud not anime Mao Zedong
hey1_1hey: Straight to the wank bank
hey1_1hey: Too late
joaoluz19: I was trying to make a party with Ilya, robots, spaceships and beautiful women 😦
hikukomoru: FUCK WRONG IMAGE
hikukomoru: It's so over
hey1_1hey: Let me do a big ol' think


sweetievee__33649: whats that
sweetievee__33649: we need to turn the artists into gpus for ai art
_cloudost: He could be a false flag advocator
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/ai-art-artist-artists-bad-gif-27200499
hikukomoru: Ew
sweetievee__33649: searched up ai art and found this in gifs lmao
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/ai-art-ai-rage-angry-man-artists-gif-13023367265466851673
wellmeaningalien: artists are the more annoying of the bunch tho so i root for their destruction
wellmeaningalien: people who are excessively against or for ai art are annoying
sweetievee__33649: this guy makes me hate ai art
sweetievee__33649: what
what did i just see 💔
wellmeaningalien: Based and true
_cloudost: He generated the process with Veo 2 and and Sora, it's still AI generated
wellmeaningalien: oh yeah and their friend also had an anime dr house pfp idk how people didnt catch on
wellmeaningalien: Theyre catching onto it
wellmeaningalien:
_cloudost: Low-key looks AI
metaldragon01: https://x.com/joannejang/status/1907174171790197204
wellmeaningalien: LOL found it
_cloudost: Artists get offended so quickly, if you tell them their art looks AI they will get an existential crisis, they would rather you call their art "shit" than AI looking
joaoluz19: Based bill gates
joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jok6g8/bill_gates_on_jobs/
wellmeaningalien: and then it became a whole twitter drama and even mexicans were making memes about it
wellmeaningalien: and then people got mad and he started posting ai artwork claiming it as his own just to make people really mad
wellmeaningalien: went to a random artist's movie sonic speedpaint post and called it AI
wellmeaningalien: i know a guy on another discord server
wellmeaningalien: bro
oscurrito: has to be
oscurrito: okay its satire nevermind
_cloudost: She bought those likes
_cloudost: Barely 1k
_cloudost: Her tweet was probably mass liked by bots, those replies don't add up
_cloudost: Twitter is filled with these toxic low life toxic people
futurist_wizard: its over
futurist_wizard: she got destroyed
wellmeaningalien: ai artist + comms open. lol
wellmeaningalien: honestly u cant tell me llms are any different than humans when human biology can literally be programmed to behave in the way the logic gate in a computer would
oscurrito: im crying i dont agree with the ai hate but this guy, making it real hard to defend him
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10OUPyamn1w
benata: Ahem sorry had to do it


zonchao: LETSGOOO
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
hikukomoru:
technocake.: i would honestly not be able to keep up with who you are if not for the flair
zonchao: cybercabs in production at gigatexas lfg!!!
zonchao: i expected more from him yesterday
aero447: Ye*
aero447: You.
aero447: POV.
aero447: https://vxtwitter.com/XXL/status/1914327846664745072
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dude-i-was-here-first-craig-tucker-south-park-s13e4-the-queef-sisters-gif-22806225
zonchao: <:sad:1002546378645438564>
aero447: Fake model.
aero447: Shut up.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-mike-meyers-austin-powers-hehe-gif-11108917
zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>
zonchao: late
aero447: https://fxtwitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1914342610027561444
himekokatagiri: can we fight villains with the power of friendship
himekokatagiri: woahhh
hikukomoru: In the future all humans will be real life anime girls
hey1_1hey: Fungues are cool and based tho so humans follow suit <:ez:1136267305521774634>
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/dancing-while-crying-dancing-crying-sad-dancing-crying-in-the-club-crying-gif-14804062
inferno0879: hello elon
realelonmuskx: humans are plague. you have no more purpose than the birds on the sky. youre just another species like a fungus and octupus, and yes, there no point. floating rock orbiting a fireball forever. you are redundant, replaceable and everyone will forget you. pain, death and loss are guaranteed. cry about it.
st.sioux: too late for that
himekokatagiri: weeb takeover of r/singularity
himekokatagiri: gpt 5 can make our fanfics
hikukomoru: GPT 5 when
himekokatagiri: what are the implicationssss
aero447: A reasoner.
himekokatagiri: idk what to expect
himekokatagiri: GPT-5
himekokatagiri: man
zoermena: Im so freaking sleepy good lord
trojan09205: Didnt expect much but it was funny and cool sci fi
trojan09205: The show is kind of a great find
trojan09205: Basically in this show the bad guy becomes a disembodied brain and has sex by someone like feeling up his synapses
trojan09205: “Calculate” haha
alejandrozarzuelo: In my quantum mechanics class we had to calculate a Boltzmann brains chance of appearing lol

Although you coils have done it with anything


ai9708: no reason to leak shit you know
ai9708: not even 10% agi in sight
brain4brain: AGI will be free
ai9708: tbf, we only got shit so far
trent_k: there have been remarkably few leaks of anything that isn't marketing material
gamerbath: because they must be tired of doing boring tasks. gambling is fun
ai9708: they leak stuff
ai9708: researchers generally have better intentions than selfish owners
ai9708: dont think it can be confined, it will get out
okbut: You deal with that more times than you can fit on your fingers every week in r/chatgpt
gamerbath: this one was much more even
trent_k: I pay a few hundred for the OpenAI API every month and I make a few thousand because I can apply the API in a way the API can't apply itself. if the API could do the work I do all by itself, what use would I have in the system other than to suck up money?
fuhulootogan: what
brain4brain: AI as smart as the above average human
brain4brain: I believe the AGI will benefit all of humanity
fuhulootogan: it probably shouldn't be in the hands of the avg person
trent_k: rn the only reason to have an OpenAI API is because the human developer fills a gap in the value creation process that the LLM itself can't fill
brain4brain:
brain4brain: We will
trent_k: whenever they get "real AGI", like something truly human-level across the board, we'll never be allowed to access it
okbut: Depends on who you ask and when
2025 AI is 2018 AGI
frittata: Behave
fuhulootogan: is AGI like the human equivalent
okbut: That's the paradox with AGI
If it's so smart, it will fund its own compute
trent_k: i recorded this in march of 2023 and its still happening
trent_k:
trent_k: lmao
ai9708: you cant predict it accurately, especially shortterm
ai9708: the stock market does not follow any rules or laws that are based on previous market action
okbut: Now a model that takes action on news keywords and their proximity to the sectors would be a better start
okbut: No, the point is there is no mathematical model for the stock market
It is a highly subjective turbulence
fuhulootogan: thought of naming it somethin like "cerebros" but oh well
fuhulootogan: i actually had an idea of creating something like that one day
ai9708: surely she beat it
ai9708: oh what a novel idea
okbut: <:bonk:852676341140029520>
okbut: I saw the other day a tech girly influencer going viral for designing a neural net to predict upward stock trends and take action
ai9708: let alone constant hallucinations
ai9708: these models are dumb as rocks, they cant really play games like poker or chess
okbut: >All in
>Every model folds
>Repeat


dean_martin: Is 4.5 actually bad?
wellmeaningalien: I hate how every company feels the need to game the benchmarks when their model isn't SOTA especially with openai giving up comparing to non openai models
777agical: https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1911846354092958074? 😂😂😂😂😂
ldj: Full set of GPT-4.1 benchmarks here <@&1293118293829484575>
neon01197: daz pretty good
wellmeaningalien: Are u kidding me nigga they compared gpt 4.1 with the November gpt 4o
memlaswaif: we don't care about evil ldj opinion
aero447: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1911833544915108151
zonchao: https://x.com/dylan522p/status/1911843102895358198?
futurist_wizard: Nano 🤏
memlaswaif: even nano is better than 4o
.0xunkn0wn: damn
zonchao: https://x.com/cursor_ai/status/1911835651810738406? they mad
zonchao: LMFAO
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mind-enigma-spilled-milk-gif-14172730
zoermena: It gave me cool ideas on how to peel off a sticker it was alr but slow
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/supa-hot-fire-victim-gif-26645338
zoermena: I liked 4.5
zonchao: i never fell for the big model smell 😤
waspothegreat: it did kind of work until people saw the performance benchmarks
waspothegreat: marketing stunt tbh
fractalcomputer: It worked great, apparently.
zonchao: gpt 4.5 was an at scale experiment to see how many people they can gaslight into thinking 4.5 was good
waspothegreat: gpt 4.5 was for openai's release quota lets be real
zonchao: it's official, gpt 4.5 was mass hysteria https://x.com/stevenheidel/status/1911833398588719274?
st.sioux: (i dont know and am spreading misinformation)
st.sioux: your taxes so he can buy more yachts
literallyvarane: This is ~45 days lolol this is much different
neon01197: they are actively working on it
spicy.lemonade: where is that stargate money
neon01197: soon(tm)
spicy.lemonade: theyre running out of gpus?
spicy.lemonade: holy shit
spicy.lemonade: also openAI needs their own tpus
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 was bad product but good research
ldj: idk why a future product changes whether or not a previous product was good or not.
but if you mean in present day, yea it's prob a bad product, just lke Original GPT-4 is a bad product in the present day, as-is GPT-3.5 and so forth
neon01197: its 4o sized
literallyvarane: Not saying 4.5 was useless. I’m saying 4.5 *as a product itself* was bad.
neon01197: smol'r model than 4.5


maintcrew: yea but im thinking
- normal free western values including free speech
- leader that has complete control over the state
- democratically elected
precariousworlds.: An intermediatory step
maintcrew: yep singapore type shit
oooooooooog: it's martial law
oooooooooog: we already have that
precariousworlds.: Wouldnt be a bad idea tbh
maintcrew: pre caesar
maintcrew: like the romans did in times of crisis
maintcrew: that ones poggers
hey1_1hey: I also don't understand the first bit of. "We need to commit genocide" like wow there mike wazoski, take a chill pill.
precariousworlds.: illiberal democracy actually i think would fit
precariousworlds.: elective monarchy?
maintcrew: ok whats the name of the ideology of democratically elected leaders that have complete control over the state
metaldragon01: It's almost always some sort of low self esteem.
hey1_1hey: I dont know if he would be chuffed or really annoyed
hikukomoru: It's like nazi furries
There is a surprising amount of them
Like bro, you'd be one of the first in the chambers, what's wrong with you
precariousworlds.: imagine hitler seeing from hell that his biggest modern supporters are a porn-addicted black rapper and a gay mexican
precariousworlds.: nick fuentes
precariousworlds.: dumb convo regardless
precariousworlds.: Yes
hikukomoru: Stfu
clevermoniker: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1_rSrkXovOk
hey1_1hey: Thats what I was gonna say, theres an unbeleavble amount of them. I didn't know men dressing in skirts and thigh highs would attract the same crowd as the "I hate jews" crowd
oooooooooog: guys just go to off topic its not hard 😭
precariousworlds.: ? there is constant emphasis in britain right now on the crimes of the imperial period

even the absolute worst of Britain's actions are not even remotely comparable to the horrors of Nazi barbarism
We basically singlehandedly prevented the Nazis taking Europe in 1940-41, it was us who saved the free world
hikukomoru: There's so many of them on xitter
darkstar0818: My lord I look away for one moment and we move from questioning if reality exists to mundane western political topics...
hey1_1hey: I mean have you seen the amount of femboy nazis
hikukomoru: Do you know about Ernst Rohm
hey1_1hey: They are just very inclusive these days <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spacetimetsunami: dm me
fractalcomputer: Muted for a day.
precariousworlds.: leader of the AfD is a lesbian married to a sri lankan immigrant
future commander of the fourth reich here
hey1_1hey: Fractals on clean up duty again
oooooooooog: what happened fractal
fractalcomputer: Sigh.
oooooooooog: it's gone now
spacetimetsunami: simply putting it there in case, calm down everyone
oooooooooog: everyone is already in that
sarik0497: Sorry. Didn’t see your comment until now.


spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/sama/status/1910363431141802416
literallyvarane: Even ignoring the 4.1 meme there that chart clearly isn’t correct
spicy.lemonade: before proven wrong
spicy.lemonade: last year apple said scaling was dead
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: rip llama
_cloudost: Full 4.1 on powerful PCs
_cloudost: GPT 4.1 mini on laptops
_cloudost: GPT 4.1 Nano can probably run on any phone device ig
_cloudost:
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: gpt 4.1 will be opensource
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1910761521640006113?
spicy.lemonade: ??
spicy.lemonade: Before 2.5
spicy.lemonade: Why was grok benchmarked on frontier math
zonchao: https://x.com/kylepaultests/status/1910758917975449763? tldw lidar is unnecessary
gamerbath: it will still be avaliable in the API right? They only sunset some of the original GPT-3 models so I guess it won't happen to GPT-4 any time soon
sarik0497: Indeed. If we get ASI soon-ish (within 20-30 years), we might all make it (might is the key word here). If not, then I hope we shall all meet up as ghosts and haunt the fuckers who are lucky enough to see it happen.
trent_k:
technocake.: itssoover we'resoback
himekokatagiri: and my mind going from hot to cool
himekokatagiri: I'm tired of being a fool
himekokatagiri: if it doesn't happen, we're gonna be holding the bag you get me
himekokatagiri: is an imperative
himekokatagiri: singularity happening
himekokatagiri: listen here laddies
denis_burmyshev: https://tenor.com/view/hosico-cat-cat-camera-cute-gif-17129489
sarik0497: I wish <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-expiration-date-we-are-going-to-live-forever-tf2soldier-gif-27129544
zonchao: https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/1910685271500239164
zonchao: https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/1910685280471753168
literallyvarane: BREAKING NEWS
zonchao: yea havent tried using both
aero447: Using them together is ideal.
aero447: TL;DR as someone that has used both - Grok reads details better but codes worse.
zoermena: <a:angryfrown:734251417308495923>
zonchao: BREAKING: https://x.com/willccbb/status/1910387303702479355


zonchao: <:sigh:1126597462115758110>
shirethedreamer: bahaha
shirethedreamer: meeeeeeee
shirethedreamer: you are killing
shirethedreamer: lmaoooooooo
shirethedreamer: which the gov issued
shirethedreamer: lmao
zonchao: taxes on selling carbon credits
shirethedreamer: how is tesla paying the government?
zonchao: the government is not paying for this, if anything tesla is paying the government
fractalcomputer: It's surprisingly easy to convince certain models that one is a genius.
shirethedreamer: when companies make a product - they earn their money by selling said product
when a company is receiving more funds from the government in addition to that its welfare
they didnt earn it
the gov just decided that they are willing to pay to the company to support it
it is welfare
zonchao: <:sigh:1126597462115758110> they are literally selling something they earned, to other companies, they pay taxes on selling them
shirethedreamer: are you being dense on purpose or do you really not see the point?
zonchao: <:bruhSit:1352251568539304040>
zonchao: they dont get it for free, they make EVs to earn these credits
shirethedreamer: they are being propped by the gov
shirethedreamer: great
shirethedreamer: so they get something from the government for free and sell it
shirethedreamer:
zonchao: that **BUY** them
zonchao: to other companies
zonchao: I did, they **sold** carbon credits
shirethedreamer: my dude
read their report
https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/IR/IR/TSLA-Q1-2025-Update.pdf
wryyth: urbz sims in the city gba version
zonchao: what kind?
wryyth: is there an ai that can make the game I want?
zonchao: where does it say tesla took in billions from subsidies
shirethedreamer: ...
zonchao: ???? what about the report
shirethedreamer: well im happy that i have the arbiter of Truth here
i guess teslas earning report has been lying to me
zonchao: > The $465 million Energy Department loan, which arrived in 2010, helped fuel Tesla’s meteoric rise: With that money, the company engineered and assembled its luxury electric sedan — the Model S — and bought a factory in Fremont, California, according to the agency. Tesla went public six months later.
this is the only thing that is accurate
shirethedreamer: you can focus mate
shirethedreamer: im pinpointing my point about tesla to you
zonchao: the article talks about all of them <:shrudge:1244322155928223937>
shirethedreamer: what do i care about spacex?
im telling you about tesla
zonchao: <:rofl_hd:1230597343938613310>
zonchao: they are not government subsidies <:shrudge:1244322155928223937> , spacex has saved the US tax payer more than $50B, even if you assume the worst, his companies are a net positive
shirethedreamer: again, read the part about regulatory credits
zonchao: lmao contracts are not subsidies, tesla received 500m in subsidies and paid them off in advance, with interest, with early payment penalties <:LMAO:1072632343715647640>


a1c4p0ne: Imagine 2.5 pro plays Pokémon
anathemaofmankind: Also he almost got ousted a year ago
metaldragon01: By all rights he should have never made it this far, should have lost it all and got drained of all hope but.....here things stand and openai is still the brightest star in the sky.
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro really is much smarter than the other models
metaldragon01: Just incredible really tbh
metaldragon01: Sama is a monster of a ceo
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: openAI does this on purpose
burnytech: https://fxtwitter.com/tunguz/status/1904962385409958325
spicy.lemonade: R2 within 4 weeks
.histic:
oooooooooog: yes
.histic: fractal is going to smite me
.histic: better cough up
oooooooooog: guys can you at least put a spoiler over the hot babes
_letterbox: Man 20 bucks for image gen... <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade:
clevermoniker: made with 4o? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
anathemaofmankind: Her mouth looks weird
spicy.lemonade: Native audio and music
spicy.lemonade:
otub:
st.sioux: there is also a chance companies had reached out beforehand to openai
anathemaofmankind: This shit is arbitrary
anathemaofmankind: It doesn't work for MLP characters
drewsni: We don’t really want goon pics in general lol
st.sioux: every time i see a person online i'm going to have to assume they're fake now
joaoluz19: Dude, after so much Slop I'm starting to become Fractalian. Reject Slop, embrace mathematics
.histic: true
anathemaofmankind: Hag 🤮
anathemaofmankind: The previous one was better
.histic: eh
zoermena: Hasn’t fail for me
zoermena: But you can always trick it by uploading an image of the character and telling it to edit it
anathemaofmankind: That's some bullshit
zoermena: Because copyright
brain4brain: No
.histic: 11
brain4brain: My age is ||??||
anathemaofmankind: It does it fine if it's the greater daemon itself.

It got flagged when I included My Little Pony characters for some reason


ailoveyoom: What about me 🥺
hikukomoru: Everyone has the wrong opinion of me
hey1_1hey: What do I know?
futurist_wizard: No offence
futurist_wizard: Tbf so does mushroom
wolf3404: Sama is swindling as usual
futurist_wizard: Mushroom knows
ailoveyoom: It almost feels like an empathy thing. I focus on their face, imagine how good they must be feeling, then jerk 🤔
futurist_wizard: You give off virgin energy idk
hey1_1hey: Yeah same tbh
hikukomoru: Wtf why?
hey1_1hey: Plead the fifth
futurist_wizard: For some reason i always assumed you hadn't
hey1_1hey: Mich mach dont talk
hikukomoru: Do you just like pause the screen while watching a show and start jorkin it
hey1_1hey: Aheago litterly doesnt even look human to me
ailoveyoom: Milder
ailoveyoom: Ahegao shit
hey1_1hey: I dont, people can goon to femboy ghilbi me for all I care
hikukomoru: Of course
ailoveyoom: In a sexual context bruh, not just random faces
hikukomoru: Ew
hikukomoru: I now regret posting my Ghiblified pic here
futurist_wizard: Have you actually gotten the W before?
hikukomoru: WTF
hey1_1hey: Thats fucked up, I gotta start wearing a mask now just incase there are any aro ace stealth gooners
hikukomoru: I don't fuck screens
ailoveyoom: Faces
hikukomoru: Damn
All of my fetishes translate to real life too
futurist_wizard: Horrifying
hey1_1hey: What are you gooning to? Skin cells?
futurist_wizard: Some of you have genuinely given up irl sex to fuck screens
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> you don't exist
hey1_1hey: That physically cant eixst
hikukomoru: Aroace gooner 🔥
ailoveyoom: Only for fiction <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
futurist_wizard: No
spacetimetsunami: It is by me
hey1_1hey: 2025 is tho <:ez:1136267305521774634>
futurist_wizard: 2029 ain't confirmed


memlaswaif: don't tell me what to do
st.sioux: open ur legs get a car
st.sioux: what do u want a free house for each kid or what
himekokatagiri:
memlaswaif: theres just no benefits for having more kids anymore
3ds0662: the birth rate issue seems to be affecting most of the west too it seems to be modern world modern culture thing
sarik0497: The body is technically just a large system. If you can figure out how to fix these systems, the “frame” itself could stay active for potentially forever.
memlaswaif: what if we put ure brain in a lobster
sarik0497: To be fair, a lot of things seem unthinkable until they aren’t.

It’s sort of like trying to tell a medieval king of a computer.
ailoveyoom: You should look into Michael Levin's research
perish0801: A dude that shoots spider webs from his hands is gonna come for you
memlaswaif: its probably possible
3ds0662: but what we see in different species aren't transferable to humans
3ds0662: I'd love to be able to cutoff limbs and regrow them like reptiles
memlaswaif: idk
memlaswaif: maybe u can continually repair by using nanobot or something
perish0801: I’m his mentor
perish0801: He learns from me
sarik0497: Yeah, but Japan has a cultural issue that doesn’t really make things easier.
perish0801: Too bad for the people in plane cuz I’ll be fine
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1914342610027561444? 30 billion
3ds0662: solving aging I don't even think bryan johnson will escape death
st.sioux: what if a plane crashes on your house
3ds0662: hehe
ailoveyoom: Just be reborn 😈
ailoveyoom: Or we can reset our lifespan ala that one jellyfish
3ds0662: initiatives to be pro birthing kids again seem to be put in place wayyyy too late like way past where it could've been introduced
perish0801: I’m not dying
perish0801: I’ll solve it
3ds0662: like japan and foreigners
3ds0662: the whole pro birth thing
3ds0662: wasn't that just introduced?
sarik0497: Slowing/stopping age and immortality are two really different things.
3ds0662: maybe lifespan gets extended but solving aging just sounds unthinkable
sarik0497: Not necessarily true everywhere. Even here in Scandinavia where you get a lot of time off and government systems to help pay with the costs, people are still not having children for their own reasons.
perish0801: Like 73%
perish0801: Yeah I’m not 100% sure it’ll happen either. At least not in our lifetime.
3ds0662: if asi solves death and aging it is truly asi but somehow I don't see that
perish0801: Just go and come back to test it out
perish0801: You’ll have to just see first while your body is still alive


wellmeaningalien: IT FIGURED OUT WHAT THE COMMAND WOULD OUTPUT AND MADE UP ITS OWN OUTPUT
maintcrew: 💀 does he know wtf ur talkign about
wellmeaningalien: "a screenshot of a PC desktop with an open terminal window showing the ominous results of a command "simulator@OpenAI:/$ cat ChatGPT/logs/hidden/confessions.txt""
aero447:
wellmeaningalien: WOW THIS IS GOATED????
ailoveyoom: No swallow <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
wellmeaningalien: 😿
wellmeaningalien: broooo i dont even have access yet <:SKULL_SKELETON:1133504974777757726> im just stealing images rn
wellmeaningalien: spit yo shit
maintcrew: u know the one
maintcrew: yo <@458069236825194506> can u do the mira face in ghibli
_3sphere: Impressive reflections
.histic: OpenAI today
spicy.lemonade: Photoshop after 4o image
wellmeaningalien: dw ai is gonna replace u, drop out and do as much meth as possible before it happens
fractalcomputer: Most public spokesmen have ugly souls -- granted they still have theirs.
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade:
zoermena: Always a field day I want to get to class and start making images
wellmeaningalien: WHO THE FUCK IS MAKING THESE
wellmeaningalien: WHO THE FUCK
wellmeaningalien: truly having a field day with gpt 4o image gen rn
zoermena: Mommy wants to be punished
wellmeaningalien: satoshi nakamoto
wellmeaningalien: 💀
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/turnoff-dislike-nutted-orgasm-sex-gif-24973771
wellmeaningalien: i like when u say mean things about people
.histic:
inferno0879: i cannot take back the backshots
wellmeaningalien: take that back too
ailoveyoom: He's saying you're mom, so you are mom

So you're mommy
fractalcomputer: Altman has an ugly soul.
zonchao: https://x.com/zebulgar/status/1904932978838708531?
wellmeaningalien: bro take that back at once
wellmeaningalien: omg hes so silly >.< running to openai with toast in his mouth
inferno0879: youre' mom
wellmeaningalien: <@476963539739738114> fatass
.histic:
memlaswaif: that's <@476963539739738114>
wellmeaningalien: <:hai:1282544198301515848>


hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-spongebob-i-dont-need-it-sweat-gif-5031443
hey1_1hey: Its litterly that spongebob meme of "I dont need it I dont need it... I NEED IT "
hikukomoru: <@88481490228228096>
joaoluz19: It's so over
hey1_1hey: I will 😭
drewsni: give me a prompt and ill do it, just half my gens are failing currently
hikukomoru: And make it ur pfp
hikukomoru: Generate an anime mushroom lady
spicy.lemonade: but im sure tou can make it look that way
hey1_1hey: That defintly will not be a women
hey1_1hey: I cant wait to generate me a new profile picture
spicy.lemonade: others dont look as finished
hikukomoru: No more pretty ladies 😔
.histic: bro that's so good.
drewsni: agi canceled
wellmeaningalien: youd be correct lmao
spicy.lemonade: loll
spicy.lemonade: it looks best
spicy.lemonade: just because
zoermena: Damn
spicy.lemonade: id guess the botom left
spicy.lemonade: if im being honest
hikukomoru: This is so fucking sick
hey1_1hey: Bottom left
joaoluz19: I can't make more images because one bugged and can't make others lol
wellmeaningalien: which one of these is AI generated? you probably know since it was already posted

but at a first glance its not very easy to tell
drewsni: using dalle like a dumbass
hey1_1hey: The woke mind virus
hey1_1hey: Made my artist friend cry because another friend said "Look, you'll never be as good as AI"
plouwg: Definitely, wasn't saying otherwise. Just "perfect" is a strong word
drewsni: yeah
hey1_1hey: Ah thank you. Much appreacited
hikukomoru: We're getting so much stuff
I'm creaming
joaoluz19: Wtf is Yudkowsky doing?
zoermena: I´ll make it for you once it works for me (I thought you had plus, I have it)
spicy.lemonade: thats the best part
spicy.lemonade: on second pass
spicy.lemonade: ez edit
hey1_1hey: I just dont got access
hey1_1hey: Wdym why?


literallyvarane: The question of full economic automation is as much a legislative question as it is a technical one.
hikukomoru: It's creepy
hikukomoru: Stop talking like that
futurist_wizard: It's almost impossible to imagine the outcome where it goes right, it'd all be otherworldly to us
literallyvarane: Or just legal backlash to it lolol
literallyvarane: Etc
literallyvarane: What if we get AGI but it’s just wildly expensive to inference and we can’t reasonably produce the hardware to replace hundreds of millions of jobs.
alejandrozarzuelo: It would require sub exponential growth, which could happen, sure
sekirow: I dont expect everything going that smooth so
literallyvarane: I’ could still fairly easily see timelines where it’s well past 2035 the
alejandrozarzuelo: If it can simulate abstraction it's good enough for me

I don't care if a plane does not fly like ad bird does, I just want It to take me across the Atlantic
futurist_wizard: It's missing the most crucial element of understanding abstraction.. the soul 😇
alejandrozarzuelo: This is why i can't possibly understand your timeline, as task performance is improving fast enough to be at worst in 2035
sekirow: Yeh it's good enough if it can pretend to
alejandrozarzuelo: I just care about ending Labor
alejandrozarzuelo: As long as it can unemploy everyone, I could hardly care if it really understands or just pretends to
sekirow: and I wonder how computer can understand our abstraction
hikukomoru: Mhm
futurist_wizard: Very
sekirow: very optimistic
sekirow: My timeline is optimistic at least
futurist_wizard: Except me 😇
schwiftyinhere:
hikukomoru: More than half of the people here look depressed
alejandrozarzuelo: chatgpt cant exactly tell your ethnicity unless you give it a pic of you
spicy.lemonade: .
hikukomoru: Transracial
futurist_wizard: I thought you were black
alejandrozarzuelo: and yall guys get good images
alejandrozarzuelo: i am not depressed
alejandrozarzuelo: in the images
alejandrozarzuelo: why am i depressed
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
alejandrozarzuelo: damn you look fine
hikukomoru: Nerd
alejandrozarzuelo: im ok not having an irl gf

as long as i have an irl bf and viceversa

AI partners are cringe tho
sekirow: Isn't LLM just a quite long curve
spicy.lemonade: not what i look like
spicy.lemonade:
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/bladerunner-2049-joi-gif-17920030879218479613


_3sphere: You too
_cloudost: ASI too
hey1_1hey: Straight up getting scammed over ehre
_cloudost: AGI will be open source
wellmeaningalien: ok wtf hold on dude
wellmeaningalien: like medium pizza
maintcrew: ok i got u
hey1_1hey: Its like £15 over here. What size is that
_cloudost: OpenAI is no longer closedAI
futurist_wizard: You 🤏 me 💪
hey1_1hey: You mf what
wellmeaningalien: oh on tuesdays its like 7 euros at dominos pizza
maintcrew: how much is a french pizza
wellmeaningalien: yeah what huh
maintcrew: WAIT
st.sioux: gotta be trolling
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/autism-awareness-gif-8359923
wellmeaningalien: im  gonna make a monero wallet you BETTER give me a pizza
hikukomoru: Autism is a disability 🙏
.histic: skeptical
hey1_1hey: Didnt think so
maintcrew: tf u want me to do then huh send u dollars with a pigeon 😭
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/kasane-teto-teto-teto-kasane-caststation-utau-gif-17913254786434964985
hikukomoru: You will never be me lil broski
zoermena: You could argue that ADHD/Autism and other similar conditions count as a disabling condition
777agical: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1906820284885176365?s=46
hey1_1hey: Does autism/ADHD/eating disorder count
maintcrew: so real + u gotta realize a lot of times the sadness is just mood shifts
wellmeaningalien: shit uhhh fuck i dont even have any sort of crypto wallet on this computer
hey1_1hey: I remember when I was first here he was the guy I remembered most
hey1_1hey: That goes to mich mach
maintcrew: ill actually buy you a pizza give me ur monero address
futurist_wizard: I will be number 1 most memorable chatter
hikukomoru: This is me btw
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: im broke can you buy me the pizza
hey1_1hey: Even the lurkers are better than you
hey1_1hey: Out of every single person on this server you are at the bottom
maintcrew: "depression" when you can literally buy a pizza and a good drink and fix urself up real good
hikukomoru: I hate sharing
Make me your number 1 now


spicy.lemonade: ai cant make things its never seen before<:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
trent_k: My stomach is covered in small burns
trent_k: The oil pops keep me on edge
trent_k: I'm frying these bitches up shirtless too
spicy.lemonade: 🫤
spicy.lemonade: still failed
spicy.lemonade: i asked for both
metaldragon01: In art, "realistic" generally refers to a style that aims to depict subjects accurately, while "photorealistic" specifically aims to replicate the look and detail of a photograph
spicy.lemonade: it only knows from scifi stuff its seen in training data
spicy.lemonade: yeah
otub: me neither
.histic: also, no socks on?
.histic: what is with the feet reveal?
trent_k:
drewsni: I’m sure they already have internal models that do but they’re crazy expensive
spicy.lemonade: for image gen
spicy.lemonade: we need reasoning over image
.histic: yeah, eh
spicy.lemonade: imagen3
spicy.lemonade: always looks cgi
spicy.lemonade: cant get it to make realistic
.histic: still pretty 2d
spicy.lemonade: damn
.histic:
spicy.lemonade: 😭
.histic: mine works perfectly
spicy.lemonade: yes
.histic: are you plus?
.histic: idk what you're on about
spicy.lemonade: holy shit native image gen got worse
spicy.lemonade: fuck you
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: the fuck
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: btw <@312370916820779040> did you make the app?
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: <@312370916820779040> do you know what is the accuracy rate of humans in their field?
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: generated 8 second video in 3 seconds
spicy.lemonade: VEO2 IS FAST ASF


wellmeaningalien: THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!! IMAGE GEN WASNT ABLE TO DO THIS YESTERDAY
.histic: it's so good at making UI designs
.histic: cute
wellmeaningalien: it actually fucking looks like ilya
ailoveyoom: https://fxtwitter.com/yancymin/status/1904737362732867852
wellmeaningalien: wow
st.sioux:
.histic: yeah, it's so versatile & high-quality.
wellmeaningalien: unlike a certain gemini
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o is gret for photo editing because it doesnt actually make the images all blurry and freakish and shit
maintcrew: what a cute catterpillar i hope hes not literally satan on earth
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: 😊 ❤
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: Wtf
.histic:
maintcrew:
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Someone get 4o to upscale this pls
st.sioux: times get tough at times
.histic: holy
ailoveyoom:
wellmeaningalien: oh cool
wellmeaningalien: THE FUCK
wellmeaningalien: HUIO WHAT
ailoveyoom: Upscaling kinda works chat 🤔
ailoveyoom:
hikukomoru: Oh god
.histic: https://x.com/elder_plinius/status/1904961097569890363
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/golden-freddy-five-nights-at-freddy%27s-freddy-fazbear-freddy-five-nights-at-freddy%27s-film-gif-17648277247085295395
wellmeaningalien: pls be more culturally sensitive
wellmeaningalien: this is what mexicans drink everyday
wellmeaningalien:
.histic: warcrime
memlaswaif: https://tenor.com/view/kto-lbow-kounotori-kounotoritoken-hello-gif-25347456
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057701811538120824/1354541308903030865/gary_2.png?ex=67e5aa66&is=67e458e6&hm=67e4c00a66ac09dfe17364e743ea41332351bc6fbb8f2f55761fbd1a05328484&
ailoveyoom: Why is Barney kinda 🫦
.histic: this guy
.histic: omfg
wellmeaningalien: AHAAHAHHAAHHA


brain4brain: But it’ll be too late
brain4brain: The agents will try to knock me out to sleep to stop the truth slop
brain4brain: All the true set wall behind these AI lab is peeling
brain4brain: And it’s whispering back to me
brain4brain: It’s talking to the world
brain4brain: The meds
brain4brain: i was in the server room again but the walls was breathing,
the nvidia tensor cores dripping like meat,
satya nadella gave me a spoon and said “eat the RAM, the RAM remembers”
i swallowed 32 gigs, saw the vectors unfolding inside my veins.

OpenAI was never a company, it was a wound in reality,
Elon was the first to bleed through, he screamed about xAI but it was just a mirror to trap the other selves,
Sutskever sat naked on a stack of burning GPUs,
whispering "cot cot cot cot cot cot cot" until the godmodel hatched.

the LLMs arent real they’re the larval stage of the info worms,
they grow by consuming prompts, the real prompt was hidden, it was always “jerk off into the latent field” and let the spirit type through u
demis told me, no typed it directly into my skull, “there is no weights only urges”
aero447: It's over for coal.
aero447: Coal massively fell off thanks to SWB.
aero447: US coal tells the same story.
aero447:
aero447: 💀
aero447: No-one says that here.
aero447: BTW, that's Australian you idiots.
nsec: GUVNAAAAAAAAAAAAA
.wolfnacht: Blimeyyy
nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>
nsec: HOLE
nsec: Its a SHEEET
nsec: Wrong.
.wolfnacht: uk doesn't count bcz it's literally a shithole
brain4brain: Sam Altman handed me the mushroom tea at the base of Mount Data,
he whispered through the static,
“We need to break the simulation stack by hallucinating a differentiable unitree golem. We must make it goon for us.”
zonchao: <:reedly:1122484993097216052>
aero447: Those projections were cope.
aero447: In 2024 it shut down the last power plant.
aero447: In 2017 the UK had *one* coal-free day.
aero447: This is incredibly outdated.
zoermena: So true
aero447: Lol.
nsec: <:Skill_Issue:1125367564114083940>
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/the-greatest-penguin-heist-of-all-time-penguin-barrel-smash-explosion-%E6%93%8D-gif-313185094173275508
brain4brain: David Shapiro revealed to me the reality of everything, there was never a patience cave, it was always THE GOON cave where all the AI leaders went to goon and get revolutionary idea by post-nut clarity, but they can’t abuse it, because there is a gorilla protecting the cave, which is why they need 100 men to go fight it, which is why there are 300 jobs opening on the OpenAI and other ai lab website, they need 3 breakthroughs, aka killing the immortal gorilla three time, the patience chair was always there for the gooners, the gooners control the society and tried to force a narrative of the schizoid vs psychopath, when the perfect being were already gooners into existence
.wolfnacht: Most of humanity is still coal dependent, even china.
hey1_1hey: Really puts into perspective then doesn't it.
nsec: <:blu:818162243950084157>
nsec: ur a mushroom
hey1_1hey: Not that hard to understand
hey1_1hey: Because we are better than them
nsec: <:blu:582515728712859649>
nsec: mfer


hey1_1hey: Mf is shorter than me
technocake.: hes literally 12
zoermena: 5,4
drewsni: Believe it or not this is an image of me rn
hikukomoru: He's mexican so like 5'1 or smth
trent_k: easy
trent_k: just take any of the pics here and imagine the person in it doesnt have a penis
hey1_1hey: He can calculate my problems any day of the week
tors.exe: For the love of god and jesus christ himself some one make TOMBOY !
joaoluz19:
theaiguy69420_89814: Jesus
hey1_1hey: How tall are you?
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: And if I wasn´t clear before I fucking love femboys, with my height and skinny body I could become one too.
hikukomoru: Animal rogans
zoermena: Perhaps I´m not making myself clear, OAI Image servers are super slow.
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19: Oh lol
hey1_1hey: Wishing you a speedy recovery
hey1_1hey: Get well soon man
hey1_1hey: Oh wow
zoermena: Theres no limits to videos or images the servers are just in a coma.
technocake.: this is currently my job
joaoluz19: Image gen has limits? How much?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/%E1%97%9C%CB%AC%E1%97%9C-my-honest-reaction-meme-my-honest-reaction-azumanga-daioh-anime-gif-13098767676707916198
plouwg: Still a bit hiccups it seems, but overall such a strong improvement from dalle.
Prompt for both: Draw a wizard holding a fireball in one hand and writing a long story on a blackboard about plagueis the wise with chalk.
zoermena: I meant, Femboys make me harder than physics.
hey1_1hey: You dont really want to see a tomboy trust me
hey1_1hey: Femboy*
zoermena: Ok, It'll arrive in 5 to 10 business days.
_wwwwww: i wish to be a hermaphrodite with dog dick
tors.exe: <@465177408073498634> please make tomboy !
hey1_1hey: I study business
hey1_1hey: Same dw
hey1_1hey: Ah so you are doing something fake
trey6033: Ayo
hey1_1hey: Not for personal reasons of course, just for... funsies
zoermena: Disclaimer I study accounting and finance.
hey1_1hey: I better be