futurist_wizard: My adhd is the real villain
futurist_wizard: My autism doesn't effect my life
wellmeaningalien: i think it wouldnt be harmful to take it away lol
wellmeaningalien: you already have too much of it apparently
futurist_wizard: Its over
futurist_wizard: How will i achieve erection without
futurist_wizard: But nitric oxide helps blood vessels
oscurrito: apparently you can use quasar on cursor which is nice
wellmeaningalien: especially low functioning
wellmeaningalien: nitric oxide is a chemical that is important to life but apparently autistics have too much of it
wellmeaningalien: too much nitric oxide is suspected to cause it
futurist_wizard: So nitric oxide will cure my wartism
.histic: nope. they're just grifters using the word 'Quasar' as a marketing gimmick.
funny enough, another model dropped on OpenRouter today. same context size, same format, same structure, same personality, even claiming it was made by OpenAI called Optimus Alpha.
https://x.com/OpenRouterAI/status/1910347642355212636

Quasar Alpha seems a bit larger & performant than Optimus Alpha, but it doesn't seem like a large difference on performance & size.
it's definitely OpenAI models.
oscurrito: lack of model then lmao
wellmeaningalien: LOL
wellmeaningalien: THEY DIDNT RELEASE A MODEL
oscurrito: ffs pathetic
wellmeaningalien: WHAT MODEL
oscurrito: nevermind i think they released a whole ass model named quasar just to get the hype from the actually good model named quasar
wellmeaningalien: kek their huggingface has NO weights
oscurrito: weirder things have happened
oscurrito: but
oscurrito: i doubt it
oscurrito: is this actually who made it
oscurrito: https://x.com/SILXLAB/status/1909475116637208937
spicy.lemonade: Getting doctors note rn
st.sioux: did u already tell ur prof
.wolfnacht: it's great for RP but free only for one more week.
spicy.lemonade: I get an extra weekend to cram
spicy.lemonade: And the best part
spicy.lemonade: This plan is fool proof
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/forced-to-play-gif-20710116
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/forced-to-play-gif-20710116
zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1910380942352334976?
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/baby-seal-sad-cry-meme-seal-gif-19608082
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/he-was-forced-to-seal-seals-claude-anthropic-gif-851712662849262407
.wolfnacht: make claude do the gambling for you.
wellmeaningalien: right
a1c4p0ne: Ok ASI
wellmeaningalien: well you're agi and you cant win money on gambling


hey1_1hey: I got really confused then because I thought you were just calling me a downie unprovoked
hey1_1hey: My mistake 💀. I made a typo. It was meant to be him*, not me
sarik0497: ...I miss San coming here, throwing a lot of cool science stuff in our face, only to leave again to get milk <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
inferno0879: i'm not gonna explain banter
hey1_1hey: Wdym?
inferno0879: so you're normal now?
hey1_1hey: Congrats
hey1_1hey: You just gave me an extra chromosome
joaoluz19: lol
st.sioux: LOL
sarik0497: Nope, not yet. Just waiting for R2...any second now.
joaoluz19: Have to be without beard
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/monte-python-run-away-get-out-of-here-escape-running-gif-4399862
st.sioux:
joaoluz19: Guys someone make him being gigachad please
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/rust-cohle-rust-true-detective-matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-gif-11084660053752137731
a1c4p0ne: We’re so back
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/goon-gooning-goon-sesh-gman-gif-5610842135438576065
joaoluz19: Run boys
joaoluz19: Nah its over
a1c4p0ne: Have you tried it
fractalcomputer: Nope.
sarik0497: smurt, but not that smurt
a1c4p0ne: How smart is new Deepseek V3
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/ff14-ffxiv-willem-dafoe-stormblood-endwalker-gif-26875758
joaoluz19: We are so back
joaoluz19: LETS GOOOOO
sarik0497: Guys...Steven is afk now, and Fractal is off. I think we're in the clear.
joaoluz19: It's not worth asking in the classroom, much less if there are 60 people in it.
hey1_1hey: #1 reason I use chatgpt to ask it math questions
joaoluz19: Man, one physics teacher almost kicked a girl out of the classroom because she asked about applications.
st.sioux: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
st.sioux: love when teachers tell you to ask questions then get mad when you ask questions
joaoluz19: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxNOW56KYBVRHOp16VljWN2Q1jzOJLJnft?si=Ph129wHQmwDllmrd
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/happy-happy-dog-dog-happiest-dog-super-happy-gif-17885812
hey1_1hey: Mich mach set me up
precariousworlds.: sure youre not
hey1_1hey: I'm not even a gooner 😭
precariousworlds.: stay in school
precariousworlds.: this is what gooning does to a man


maintcrew: then we win bc just scaling will imply we have the headstart
hikukomoru: Big number = big smart
hikukomoru: What if compute is all that matters
himekokatagiri: That's true
futurist_wizard: What if there is no secret sauce
maintcrew: but yea true
maintcrew: ig
maintcrew: bc no secret sauce has been found yet
hikukomoru: It's a good thing anti-ai people don't have any influence over its development then
If luddites had their way we would still be living in mudhuts and dying at 30 from a miniscule cut that got infected
zonchao: https://x.com/haoailab/status/1917309594315153699?
futurist_wizard: That's the gap we are looking at
futurist_wizard: 2-3 months tops?
futurist_wizard: Like i said, they are close enough to eachother to where it doesn't even matter
maintcrew: which could be used to give you a lot of headstart
maintcrew: there are several stages of ai capability before hand tho
maintcrew: this takes an approach of AGI immediately that will think for itself and be independent
hikukomoru: It was beyond that before right
hikukomoru: Isn't Demis timeline 2030 now
futurist_wizard: I don't care if china or usa *'wins'* results end the same
futurist_wizard: I don't think there even is such a thing as the ai race, all of them are close enough to each other that it doesn't even matter
futurist_wizard: Lecun's criticism of LLM's is fair
sarik0497: To be fair, we have no real proof that we'll have AGI in 2-3 years. For all we know, it's further away (I think Demis has the right of it being 5-10 years away).

And we shouldn't underestimate China either. They are working fast.
hikukomoru: Shizo bf
maintcrew: from suppliers of asml things, asml, tsmc, nvidia
maintcrew: u have to remember that they need to make the whole stack from scratch
himekokatagiri: https://www.rxddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1kalae8/chatgpt_induced_psychosis/
hikukomoru: Idk I don't think China is going to have any problem keeping up
himekokatagiri: or you have this
himekokatagiri: You either have 'grrrr AI sucks'
himekokatagiri: There's no two ways about it
himekokatagiri: AI in general
maintcrew: famous last words of the western civilization 😭
maintcrew: also a lot of software compatibility too like torch
maintcrew: yea they are but these things take time and i dont think they can pull it off in less than 2-3 years
hikukomoru: LeCummies is a redditor
hikukomoru: You mean LLMs or AI in general
hikukomoru: Isn't China making their own stuff now
maintcrew: yea hes been in the field for a while
zonchao: reddit
futurist_wizard: What? Old fashioned?


a1c4p0ne: Come to China
aero447: Sigh.
aero447: Or no pelvis.
aero447: Stop.
aero447: Do not reply.
aero447: <@322961583154397184> Shut the fuck up or I will find you and take your pelvis.
hikukomoru: Why are you like this
a1c4p0ne: If you zoom in it looks like the jaw of the pug is broken
himekokatagiri: Don't you like me aero
himekokatagiri: Why....
futurist_wizard: Both interconnected for me
himekokatagiri: ||She is homura||
aero447: 👍
aero447: Frankly, you all disgust me, you repulse me, you wil be turned into stationery and it will in every case be an objective improvement.
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/pet-lover-puppy-dog-eyes-gif-23349661
.wolfnacht: i'm caught with adhd more than the autism part
hikukomoru: Earth-chan would be cuter if she was turned into a giant computer
hikukomoru: Why does she look like Homura
aero447: What relevance does this have to every one of you being converted into paperclips.
.wolfnacht: less make earth-chan happy.
a1c4p0ne: I’m normal don’t worry
futurist_wizard: Its signs of terminal autism
futurist_wizard: @ing random people and sending them videos of animals getting killed is not normal
hikukomoru: I don't know if you are capable of understanding this, but people don't usually like seeing animals get murdered like that
a1c4p0ne: You can see the jaw is broken
futurist_wizard: Just be normal
aero447:
a1c4p0ne: Why not
aero447: THE HYPNO DRONES.
aero447: ACTIVATE.
aero447: Good.
hikukomoru: I hope I don't need to tell you this again, but don't link me videos of animals getting killed pls <@322961583154397184>
futurist_wizard: Like i was diagnosed at 4 and I feel like im well adjusted in comparison
.wolfnacht: here take it back too *mwaah* 😘
.wolfnacht: aww thenks 🥰
a1c4p0ne: <@505313122802728972> and you understand Spanish right
himekokatagiri: Yes
himekokatagiri: I'll kiss you!!! smooch
futurist_wizard: Some of you have advanced autism
.wolfnacht: my beliefs are getting more and more true for total genocide of whole humanity, day by day


kevinnoodles: you use a calculator instead of your brain you're now weaker
precariousworlds.: I can cross a country in hours instead of weeks
futurist_wizard: *written by a discord user*
kevinnoodles: you drive a car instead of riding a bicycle, you are now eaker
precariousworlds.: Not necessarily
precariousworlds.: I give a shit no longer about this thread
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/dog-happy-dog-tail-wagging-dog-smiling-hello-gif-9499658524271519020
kevinnoodles: all machines weaken you
hikukomoru: We're not stone age monkeys anymore
precariousworlds.: Why
precariousworlds.: That's literally the point of evolution tho
Maximizing the chances of passing on your genetic identity
futurist_wizard: Asi will make delicious burger and fries
hikukomoru: Who cares about that bro
kevinnoodles: AI will make us intelligent if we treat it like an adversary that we must outperform
precariousworlds.: No other option where humans remain apex species
gamerbath: it looks like for each cell it's just pass or no pass. but it looks enough to get the point across that this model is good at long context lengths
kevinnoodles: i dont know about that
precariousworlds.: We become super intelligent with AI
kevinnoodles: and using it for art is awful
kevinnoodles: but we use it to skip work and learning for the most part.
precariousworlds.: Based
spicy.lemonade: or label
spicy.lemonade: why didnt they make it color scaled
precariousworlds.: Ahreed
spicy.lemonade: why is it binary
spicy.lemonade: horrible benchmark
kevinnoodles: my thing is that we should be using AI to improve the intelligence of humans and the skill of humans
futurist_wizard: Genetic success is for apes
spicy.lemonade: this is a horrible graph
spicy.lemonade:
precariousworlds.: evolving by reducing your chances of genetic success..?
kevinnoodles: several 747's have crashed in recent years because the pilot stalled the plane.
kevinnoodles: i forget which malcolm gladwell/nicholas carr book it was but it talked about how autopilot on planes was erroding basic skills of pilots so the rise in autopilot was leading to a rise in stupid plane crashes
precariousworlds.: There are much greater consequences to focus on IMO
The bigger issue is not that we become dumb, but that we become irrelevant to an ASI, which would cause that
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Your pfp is more normie now
hikukomoru: Yeah, turning gay is more like evolving
kevinnoodles: i said im worried it's gonna make people dumb
kevinnoodles: I just talked about AI
futurist_wizard: Nobody has anything to say about AI and yet complains when chat devolves into autism


fuhulootogan: you can say philosophical shit
fractalcomputer: A rather bold statement to make that we understand the universe now any more than a thousand years ago.
alejandrozarzuelo: we need some level of faith on the institutions that produce science and that the people involved arent in some sort of conspiracy, as science is indeed a collaborative effort
fuhulootogan: and why do you trust the system?
alejandrozarzuelo: i am not either a doctor, but i can trust that the system produces drugs that do improve my body
alejandrozarzuelo: i am not a climate phisicist, but i can trust that the system produces accurate models of the climate
alejandrozarzuelo: we do science because it is a process that allows us to use the human cooperation and self correcting structures to understand the universe
fuhulootogan: i think my cousin has one
alejandrozarzuelo: but science is a cooperative effort
fuhulootogan: a "meteorological climatological station"
alejandrozarzuelo: its impractical to do your own research on any level of depth on more than one field
zonchao: just one more jepa bro, trust me, it can truly reason <:fear:1199951965078159542>
fuhulootogan: oh yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: unless you own a meterorological climatological station
alejandrozarzuelo: we literally do this all the time in science

we defer to experts when we assess climate change too
wellmeaningalien: only jepa can save him
wellmeaningalien: they literally only took the 3 benchmarks that made them look better than the competition
zoermena: I was talking to some people who hated ai because of the art stuff; they are forgetting that AGI will arrive and basically any concept of reality will be shattered. Beyond ART being replicated on the get go they have forgotten that it’s humanities last invention.
fuhulootogan: so you appeal to an "expert"
wellmeaningalien: the benchmarks they compared other models too as just as cherrypicked. "deepseek v3 isnt multimodal so we're not gonna show benchmarks" my fucking ass you're just too much of a pussy to show relevant benchmarks where deepseek v3 wipes lol
zonchao: lecun in hiding
fuhulootogan: wtf is joever
alejandrozarzuelo: you can say that you defer your judgement to the expert average prediction
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/super-buu-stare-dragon-ball-majin-buu-dragonball-gif-14250919658481755660
wellmeaningalien: fat big joever for meta
fuhulootogan: zuck a buck
zonchao: is it over https://x.com/tunguz/status/1911142310160855541
hey1_1hey: Most people I know aren't even AGI so GPT 4 is AGI
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4 is agi tho
retrerox: its over...
retrerox: The Verdict:

Considering the information available:

GTA VI has an official release window of Fall 2025 (or possibly earlier according to leaks). This provides a tangible timeframe, even if subject to potential delays.
The timeline for AGI is much more uncertain and debated. While some believe it could happen in the next few years, there's no widespread consensus or a concrete roadmap.
Therefore, based on the current information, it seems more likely that Grand Theft Auto VI will be released before we achieve Artificial General Intelligence.
himekokatagiri: tfw you're stuck behind a dude who goes at 40kmh
himekokatagiri:
fuhulootogan: PRAISE THE AI OVERLORDS
fuhulootogan: critical thinking goes to the bin
retrerox: Ill ask gemini 😂
fuhulootogan: yes
retrerox: Ask chat gpt
fuhulootogan: i don't know anything
fuhulootogan: i don't know


sekirow: I don't understand why people call it machine learning but it's just curve fitting
alejandrozarzuelo: it is creating it
alejandrozarzuelo: ok
himekokatagiri: It is an interesting exercise
himekokatagiri: Oh
zoermena: 4o is smart enough to recognize it but you can do it to avoid any mistakes
alejandrozarzuelo: do i select the  "create an image" on the bottom or na
zoermena: Oh I just copied the message for Alejandro you are dismissed <:cleanteeth:1005473072863776818>
joaoluz19: Lol ok fine
himekokatagiri: I already did it
futurist_wizard: It was a positive remark, i was also calling her a rat
joaoluz19: The world is not the same
zoermena: That makes two of us
joaoluz19: Fractal using slang now this, guys maybe we are being atacked
zoermena: <@286319745777795092>
try this prompt into 4o,
"Make a photo of how you think
my future will be based on our
conversations (make it as you
actually see it ,no sugarcoating)"
joaoluz19: wtf, futurist hill would curse a million times but never make a positive message
alejandrozarzuelo: give it to me raw
alejandrozarzuelo: what is the prompt
zoermena: Well at least based on what you tell it
alejandrozarzuelo: i doubt it, but ok
zoermena: It does
zoermena: It’s naturally activated unless you turned it off manually therefore it can make an image of you without giving it context
alejandrozarzuelo: it cannot possibly know anything about me
alejandrozarzuelo: but, I dont have conversations with chatgpt
joaoluz19: Just copy and paste the prompt
alejandrozarzuelo: the memory thing
alejandrozarzuelo: how do you do that
joaoluz19: Put the full prompt unbiased
joaoluz19: What is this bro? Cherry picking
zoermena: Don’t you have memory activated?
hikukomoru: Why did you use that prompt
Don't you have memory enabled
futurist_wizard: There's a bright light at the end of the sewer, you just need to keep scattering towards it
hikukomoru:
alejandrozarzuelo: This is my prompt, lets see what it creates
hikukomoru: It's over
Nothing ever changes
futurist_wizard: XQCupdates server lol
ldj: <a:awaree:1090299013183582238>
ldj: <:minion:1020942726172262510>
futurist_wizard: Luckily
joaoluz19: 1) what


.histic: if you don't care about portability, mac minis are far more performant and cheaper than airs too.
.histic: i agree.
just get some refurbished one, an older model, or just an air if you're on a budget.
but if you're a gamer or someone that use VMs i would't recommend it.
retrerox: xd
retrerox: Apple is just overpriced crap
zonchao: the new air is perfect
wellmeaningalien: best case is macbook with asahi linux
wellmeaningalien: macbooks are great laptops macos is absolute ass (for me)
st.sioux: idk about desktops
st.sioux: honestly
st.sioux: macbooks are perfect laptops
retrerox: acc
retrerox: Buying apple is so bad
wellmeaningalien: ig u can get like 16gb ram laptops at a reasonable price if u trade it off for a bad CPU
st.sioux: lmao
st.sioux: finally
st.sioux: oh yea ur right they start at 16gb
wellmeaningalien: ☝
wellmeaningalien: its crazy
wellmeaningalien: most windows laptop manufacturers are still making like macbook price laptops with 8gb ram
wellmeaningalien: brooooo
wellmeaningalien: broooooooooooooo
zonchao: they do 16 now
wellmeaningalien: 8GB is crazy for such expensive laptops
retrerox: macs <:cringe:1136264606256472104>
zonchao: 💀 you know its time to upgrade when even apple has finally switched from 8gb base
st.sioux: and theyrenot cheap
st.sioux: macbooks start at 8gb unified memory
wellmeaningalien: 4GB RAM LAPTOPS
wellmeaningalien: u wouldnt believe what they're putting in ""modern"" tech
wellmeaningalien: thats like 90% of lower end phones and laptops
wellmeaningalien: 😃
wellmeaningalien: 144hz <:smile:1201354224408203325>
wellmeaningalien:
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: do they even make these anymore
retrerox: atleast is not 720...
zonchao: <:Oof:1005890733078741024>
retrerox:
zonchao: yea
st.sioux:


st.sioux: why 24 hours
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: I want agi
darkstar0818: I don't care about that.  I want 100,000 line 1 shot programs.
spicy.lemonade: Min 16 mil
spicy.lemonade: Window
spicy.lemonade: We need 24 mil context
spicy.lemonade: Even though humans sleep for 8
spicy.lemonade: At max
spicy.lemonade: So 24 hours
spicy.lemonade: 1 million context is about the size of a 1 hour video
darkstar0818: I hit my gemini 2.5 pro output token limit like 20 times today... its bullshit fix it.
joaoluz19: Yes I'm waiting for the singularity to come and save me and I'm tired of pretending i'm not
st.sioux: we need at least 5 million output so it can shit out entire projects
spicy.lemonade: Humans don’t have 10 mil output tokens at once
spicy.lemonade: For supreme coder yes
darkstar0818: 10 million output tokens when.
spicy.lemonade: For agi no
spicy.lemonade: No no
darkstar0818: we need more output tokens, context is fine.
spicy.lemonade: Wait
spicy.lemonade: I think 10 mil context is enough
himekokatagiri: 😭
spicy.lemonade: Then at night the model trains itself
spicy.lemonade: We need to gather a days worth of context
hikukomoru: Waiting for AGI to make women real 🙏
.wolfnacht: reminds me of this.
okbut:
okbut: I find the capabilities great as long as the context of the scenario is sufficient
.wolfnacht: New nvidia ultralong llama models: <https://huggingface.co/collections/nvidia/ultralong-67c773cfe53a9a518841fbbe>

> <https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.06214>
> From 128K to 4M: Efficient Training of Ultra-Long Context Large Language Models
>
> Long-context capabilities are essential for a wide range of applications, including document and video understanding, in-context learning, and inference-time scaling, all of which require models to process and reason over long sequences of text and multimodal data. In this work, we introduce a efficient training recipe for building ultra-long context LLMs from aligned instruct model, pushing the boundaries of context lengths from 128K to 1M, 2M, and 4M tokens. Our approach leverages efficient continued pretraining strategies to extend the context window and employs effective instruction tuning to maintain the instruction-following and reasoning abilities. Our UltraLong-8B, built on Llama3.1-Instruct with our recipe, achieves state-of-the-art performance across a diverse set of long-context benchmarks. Importantly, models trained with our approach maintain competitive performance on standard benchmarks, demonstrating balanced improvements for both long and short context tasks. We further provide an in-depth analysis of key design choices, highlighting the impacts of scaling strategies and data composition. Our findings establish a robust framework for efficiently scaling context lengths while preserving general model capabilities. We release all model weights at: this https URL.
rayanquitplayin: Yeah, it’s just good at wording things in a certain way to make it sound correct. LLM’s are just statistical algorithms that guess the next word
okbut: Recibirás tu dinero cuando obtenga tu maldito producto
.wolfnacht: ask the guy who imagined her in his mind before making a model outta her.
.histic: i think that the more i use LLMs for simple tasks, the more i notice how limited they are in terms of common sense. reasoning models excel at solving complex sequential problems in STEM, but they still are lacking in general reasoning & planning. it's funny how frontier models can still miss the simplest background details and come off as illogical. i hate trying to explain this to them.. never-ending loop lol
improve general reasoning + make them self-improve then i'll be happy.
AGI now in 2069 for now.
himekokatagiri: Ella Freya
metaldragon01: Would be cool but I'm not sure now that the race is so intense
spacetimetsunami: Who’s the actress they used to model this face
himekokatagiri: ashley from RE4make
st.sioux: who is that
himekokatagiri: for the herculean effort to make a cute virtual girl


spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: wdym
gamerbath: no
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: incase they get mogged
spicy.lemonade: no one wants to be the first one to present
spicy.lemonade: like doing presentations at school
spicy.lemonade: most likeley its a situatin of no one wants to be the first one
gamerbath: why does it feel like whenever an AI company does something very cool like 4o image gen, others start doing the exact same thing at the same or higher level just a few months or weeks later
spicy.lemonade: yes
gamerbath: what really???
spicy.lemonade: omg artists cant catch a break
spicy.lemonade: lets see
spicy.lemonade: midjourney ceo says itl mog 4o image
spicy.lemonade: oh shit?
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1905970398258143315?t=wdjgS3owo4mwrz-oWjWfeA&s=19
aero447: 😂
aero447: Imagine being born in 1999.
.wolfnacht: His reddit i'd's gonna get nuked
ailoveyoom: How it feels to spread legs
ailoveyoom: 😔
ailoveyoom: Age: 16
aero447: POV MichMach.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893
.wolfnacht: *sighs* FINEEE
alejandrozarzuelo: please
alejandrozarzuelo: we talked about this among the active members and <#1136230110891081821> is becoming too casual

its cool to talk off topic but lets keep each chat clean
.wolfnacht: also, i posted there something....people might disgusted or some people might get horny like <@430269783112548362>
ailoveyoom: <@1352573784422350930> Nvm I was wrong
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/plink-nerd-plank-plink-cat-cat-gif-11096663429307162255
.wolfnacht: We are watching the biblical prophecies come to life...What a time to be alive
alejandrozarzuelo: and stff
alejandrozarzuelo: thats for politics
alejandrozarzuelo: please go to <#1136231504440201216>
anathemaofmankind: Imagine Trump gets access to AGI
anathemaofmankind: Absolute cinema
futurist_wizard: Human made slop will end
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/Trump666/comments/1jlr9kz/trump_looks_about_ready_to_strike_iran_with_b2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
theaiguy69420_89814: Don't even care if AI handles that for us


wellmeaningalien: fractal is rolling over in his grave. rip fractal
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-fnaf-memes-freddy-fazbear-freddy-freaky-gif-12693495263874297725
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: guys im having extremely rough sex with komoru tonight
wellmeaningalien: aight bet
hikukomoru: I'm waiting for you to join me 🫦
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/super-buu-stare-dragon-ball-majin-buu-dragonball-gif-14250919658481755660
wellmeaningalien: shouldnt YOU be in bed pookie dookley diddley
hikukomoru: <@458069236825194506> shouldn't you be in bed bookie
wellmeaningalien: not some bogged down understanding either
wellmeaningalien: you can literally give gemini 2.5 pro a scientific paper and its as if you're talking to the paper itself
wellmeaningalien: woah mama
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/minion-banan-water-gif-4374588345379655521
wellmeaningalien: very conversationally and academically intelligent i find gemini 2.5 pro to be
wellmeaningalien: fuuck thats good
wellmeaningalien: with google search
wellmeaningalien: experts inside your pocket
wellmeaningalien: i fucking love thinking models
rayanquitplayin: What’s everyone up to?
.wolfnacht: Stop posting this fucking cat!!!
hikukomoru: Stop posting this fucking cat!!!
otub: https://tenor.com/view/good-oye-oye-dou-dou-cute-cat-funny-cat-gif-2273443150881237369
a1c4p0ne:
himekokatagiri: you don't know me yet you describe me to well
himekokatagiri: 😭
rayanquitplayin: trippy
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/humanoid-genesis-virtualdream-nft-art-ai-gif-25767093
fuhulootogan: brazilian femboy hedonist
hikukomoru: You don't want to see me political
fuhulootogan: i hate politics
hikukomoru: Both
ailoveyoom: So either super smart or super brainrot
ailoveyoom: You talk politics or geopolitics or whatever
hikukomoru: What do you mean
What did I do in off topic
himekokatagiri: negativity beings u down
himekokatagiri: I want positivity man
himekokatagiri: why are people so mean
fuhulootogan: ok
himekokatagiri: gahhhhh I'm so sad
fuhulootogan: don't worry i have a really good password


oooooooooog: LEV is inevitable in the same way ASI is
sarik0497: ”May” get LEV.

I hate to be the buzz killer, but it’s not inevitable.

Although I wish so I didn’t have to fear death all the time…
hey1_1hey: No I am christian and christians dont do bad things like drugs 🙏
hikukomoru: Wtf
Racist bitch
oooooooooog: no i just absorb it back into my blood
.wolfnacht: anyone else ? who's sleep breaks at 3:33, in middle of night just to pee ?
st.sioux: i slept 3 last night spent too much time playing with 4o and had to make up for not working all day 😭😭
hikukomoru: Based
You should totally do that
hey1_1hey: I am 18 so I should be able to shoot fent in the back and be fine
futurist_wizard: I always sleep 7-8
hey1_1hey: Oh I got that
hikukomoru: Same
I either sleep 4 hours or 12
No inbetween
hey1_1hey: Makes sense, its higher in people who are lesser (Portuguese)
.wolfnacht: mine some nights are 5-6 hrs of sleep and then some are straight 12hr, idk why.
hikukomoru: We'll get LEV by 2035, and I'm only 20
So I think I have a good chance no matter how unhealthy my lifestyle may be
spicy.lemonade: Has been breakthrough
spicy.lemonade: Every month this year
futurist_wizard: Or a deviated septum
spicy.lemonade: Great way to end march
futurist_wizard: You might have sleep apnea
hey1_1hey: And I thought I was optimistic
hikukomoru: Me on the right
.wolfnacht: 100%
hey1_1hey: Would, next question
hikukomoru: Like sleeping 8+ hours makes me super tired and braindead the rest of the day
oooooooooog: LEV 2025
futurist_wizard: Ghoul
hey1_1hey: You aint making it to LEV with that sleep shcedule Komoru
hikukomoru: I feel worse when I sleep more than 8 hours
hey1_1hey: Talk about being an insomniac
.wolfnacht: and some nights, sleeps are literally 12 hr long which gives terrible headaches
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: People really downplay LLMs on how good they are at explaining things I think. You litterly have a teacher that has read 60 million books and has infinite paitence and will sit there and listen to you ask stupid questions
hikukomoru: Really
I feel fine
oooooooooog: thats a normal amount guys
.wolfnacht: yeah, it sucks.
futurist_wizard: Thats very low
hikukomoru: Most nights I sleep 4-6 hours
futurist_wizard: Truth
hikukomoru: That's why it doesn't affect me, I am already retarded


zoermena: <:o3:1364719182217871410>
okbut: We should be awaiting a "(_ SOTA) is 100% free" tweet before then
okbut: Yeah thanks <@1152183706849644615> <@312370916820779040> etc I accept the common definition of AGI now, though I still think we're far from it given its necessity to pay for itself
zoermena: Jobs are meaningless in the face of groundbreaking innovation which is the only priority
zoermena: Not AGI necessarily
okbut: Well, science spans all domains
zoermena: We only need RSI and Narrow ASI on science.
okbut: Bump on this poor dude getting buried in the midst of a blunt rotation
okbut: That, too, shrinking, assuming RLHF
okbut: Right, and at that point the "Almost all work" only fails to cover quality assurance
metaldragon01: The question isn't when can AI do a job perfectly but when can it do something with acceptable error rates
metaldragon01: Humans don't self correct nearly enough. Quality control exists for a reason and even they miss a ton
okbut: Even manual labor, e.g. "Write an Arduino script that ..."
metaldragon01: Not even close to all work
_3sphere: Humans still self correct well with their context
okbut: Tbh I think it could do almost all work if every user understood the ocean of tech
metaldragon01: Liability is going to be the bottleneck for a while
metaldragon01: Human error rates are much higher than you'd expect
metaldragon01: I do think the current models with the right scaffolding and even current memory tech can do a significant amount of work
okbut: Tangentical point but (IMO) AI will also be free long before we see AGI, considering it will have to pay for its own electricity by the time it is autonomously working on optimizing itself, lest a developer pulls the plug over cost
ldj: There is always a gradient with everything though, each line of code, each flop of training compute, etc...
I think its unlikely that a single character change in code or a single extra flop of training will ever turn a system from something capable of doing 30% of jobs to 90%+ percent of jobs or something like that.
metaldragon01: This is one reason I think the takeoff job wise will be faster than expected.
okbut: Oh ya agree
The jumps between each might vary a lot though
ldj: Just because an AI model is capable of eventually turning itself into something that can do 90% of jobs, does not mean that it's currently capable of doing 90% of jobs.
ldj: It would still have whatever capability it has at that moment.
If the model can do 50% of jobs as good as the humans, then it can do 50% of jobs, the fact that it can self-improve is only relevant the the job percentages of the future versions of itself that are improved, not its current version.
okbut: A certain percent of capability where it reiterates on its own technological optimizations without instruction
I guess then there are moments in between
okbut: Sorry I'm a bit high so I might just be misinterpreting
okbut: What about a percent where this occurs
a1c4p0ne: I’m up 2700 from blackjack
ldj: in that case then it applies to my original statement still then:

> AI will be capable of doing 40% of jobs before it's capable of doing 50% of jobs.
> AI will be capable of doing 30% of jobs before it's capable of doing 40% of jobs.
> AI will be capable of doing 20% of jobs before it's capable of doing 30% of jobs.
trojan09205: Anyone have experience building graphRAG with neo4j
okbut: Instead of considering the overlap in capabilities angle I'd rather consider singularity angle
aero447: Once overlapping routine cognitive tasks fall, the reachable share of total work is far higher than the initial 50 % headcount.
aero447: Task re-bundling knocks out extra workers indirectly, because the remaining jobs change shape in ways some humans can’t match profitably.
ldj: When a land surveyor defines a body of water as a lake instead of a pond based on that 1 drop difference, there is no functional difference in the actual properties of that lake or pond compareds to a lake that is 2 drops above that boundary or 2 drops below.

But you are claiming that there **is** a functional difference from a literal 1 flop difference vastly changing the capabilities it can do
aero447: Skill overlap means you get a snowball effect: automating clerical documentation removes not just “clerks” but the 10-20 % of time every nurse, lawyer, engineer and manager spends on paperwork.
okbut: Not strict to that 49.99999% point though if that's what you mean
aero447: 😐
aero447: If an AI really can substitute for half of all workers, it has already mastered the common, transferrable tasks that account for more than half of total labour hours.
ldj: Thats for definitions yes, but definitions like that aren't functional.


spicy.lemonade: ChatGPT is free bro
hey1_1hey: Boys, men, girls, women. I need your assisstance in something. Do you mine going to chatgpt and asking it what it would like to be called other than chatgpt?
joaoluz19: But we are not merely speculating here, there is plenty of research in this regard. Saying that it is bad research is already a step ahead of saying that it does not exist.
retrerox: Does this means i have Paid Gemini?
st.sioux: it's a discussion that requires speculation, it's about something that doesn't exist yet
retrerox: 😭
fractalcomputer: I apologise if I haven't used the clearest language to convey my meaning.
fractalcomputer: The accusation was that people make predictions on feelings here.
joaoluz19: The starting point was the accusation that most people take predictions as a feeling here, even though we are bombarded with statistical research on the evolution of AI every day here.
fractalcomputer: Now you are confusing two different conversations.
joaoluz19: I thought it was just based on emotions, we are seeing that this is not the case
fractalcomputer: A claim which remains to be demonstrated.
fractalcomputer: As others discussed just now in this chat, one can always find sources to argue for all sorts of things.
joaoluz19: The ideas converge with his
joaoluz19: And look, there is not just one source that supports these ideas, there are several
fractalcomputer: Then do not defer to Amodei or any other figure.
joaoluz19: There is no appeal to any authority here.
joaoluz19: I said benchmarks that are not from Anthropic, which was published yesterday here for example
fractalcomputer: (Notice the irony.)
fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
st.sioux: you're trying to apply logic to something that by nature may transcend logic entirely
joaoluz19: Of the many that were put here, how many did you deny? The one from yesterday's LDJ of AI in 2027 for example
joaoluz19: Each of them has their own arguments, just to quote Dario "agents in 2027", "there will be no more programmers in 2027" there are already dozens of benchmarks showing the evolution over time in planning and agency capacity
spicy.lemonade: no one here will read
spicy.lemonade: im here for convo
fractalcomputer: lol
spicy.lemonade: yeah
nobranes: im here for schizo hype and nothing else
spicy.lemonade: no one is here for high brow phd 75 page paper
spicy.lemonade: if people want that they go to arxiv
fractalcomputer: You can reason together to get more rational and more informed answers, lol.
spicy.lemonade: no
fractalcomputer: Because you can put some effort into communicating with other people, lol.
spicy.lemonade: i dont go here to type research papers every message
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: why would we go on a deep data analysis on a discord server
fractalcomputer: Yes, because you *are* appealing to them as authority figures; you defer to their *authority* instead of justifying why *they* would be right.
oooooooooog: i won't forgive you for that
retrerox: I guess so. i do it sometimes
joaoluz19: It's not because you ignore the arguments that they are not cited, and when we cite people who have experience in the area (Dario, Sustkever, Kurzweil himsef that was chief scientist at Google)  you say that we are "blindly following" what they are saying.


maintcrew: the definition or whatever im aware i compile it anyway
trent_k: some chinese girl posted these in the r/chatgpt discord like a year or so ago. if someone could translate them to english but keep the handwriting that would be cool
maintcrew: ok last question is the community cool + do yall have a lot of packages or do i need to learn how to package gentoo packages myself
trent_k: i have a request for someone with 4o paypig tier
wellmeaningalien: nope sometimes i get stability issues when i dont update my packages in awhile and then update them but if u update semi regularly and have ur system configurated properly u should be fine to go
maintcrew: example: most youtube videos are now absolute slop with absolute slop thumbnail made by dall e
hey1_1hey: Someone who has access to it can you generate logos please 🙏
fractalcomputer: I suppose that I am to take this as good news?
ailoveyoom: Now it's goontech + logo generator 2.0 (+ some other things)
hikukomoru: That's why it's great
hikukomoru: Still is just goontech
hey1_1hey: I wonder how good its logos are now
maintcrew: last year laptop cpu but i'll be fine if i need it a lot i'll just spin up a cluster or some shit in my room

do u have any stability problems
trent_k: until today it was basically just goontech + a logo generator
wellmeaningalien: u already doxxed urself, hp lovecraft
hikukomoru: Yeah I'm sorry I gave Lovecraft a blackface 😔
spicy.lemonade: i could prob generate a 50 page batman comic now
hey1_1hey: Did they get the death penalty
ailoveyoom: Bro code
ailoveyoom: Don't disturb a man mid goon
spicy.lemonade: could generate comics for anyone
fractalcomputer: Someone in this community tried generating pictures of me without my knowledge.
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: how
hey1_1hey: Thats DISGUSTING
wellmeaningalien: u have a good processor?
maintcrew: ai image generator is cool and all but it's literally mass slop generator
hey1_1hey: EWWWWW
wellmeaningalien: yes but beware those take a hell of a lot of time to compile lmao
fractalcomputer: An ethicist is a philosopher specialising in ethics.
hey1_1hey: Fractla if I could generate you and godel kissing would it change your mind?
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: slop???
fractalcomputer: Slop.
maintcrew: currently on arch linux but i really feel the itch of compiling everything on my computer myself
if i wanted to compile it with clang and the llvm toolkit is it possible
hey1_1hey: Whats an ethicist? Someone who is really racist or smth?
joaoluz19: Is stats applied math?
spicy.lemonade: and we have all this
spicy.lemonade: wow 3 months into 2025
fractalcomputer: Ah, a pure mathematician it is.


hey1_1hey: Never heard of that place ngl. Prob just not int he UK
hikukomoru: Can't get fat if you can't eat fast food
hey1_1hey: Seanosing yes sauce no.
I never have condiments with anything
futurist_wizard: Why
zoermena: The only ones I’ve consistently liked are from whataburger
hikukomoru: This is one of the rare times I appreciate the fact that I can't enjoy 90% of food 🙏
hey1_1hey: I always feel like I am just eating bread and meat at the same time which just doesnt feel that good
futurist_wizard: You need a lot of seasoning and sauce to make bunger good
sieventer: in the next few days, dw
hey1_1hey: I always feel as if there is never a good ratio of meat to bun
futurist_wizard: Ive tried burgers from five guys they are meant to be good and they still don't taste like much
hey1_1hey: Nah its the singualrity trsut
zoermena: I always feel disgusted after eating burgers
wellmeaningalien: as if
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/minion-banan-water-gif-4374588345379655521
_cloudost: disappointed
futurist_wizard: Burgers are overrated
wellmeaningalien: i like burgers theyre tasty asf
futurist_wizard: Facts
hey1_1hey: And for all you mfs that make the bun bigger that the opening of your mouth... You sicken me
hey1_1hey: Burgers are so unbelievably overrated ngl
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cobson-soyjak-smoking-scary-dark-soy-gif-11486172598633092358
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164976879330152500/1360707124568527050/1910859898755174443-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif
wellmeaningalien: dear america.. if youre so cool.. then why BURGER.. checkmate america lol
hey1_1hey: I am supprised there are stupid people in America. Just be like "Whats that? You think the earth is flat? Let me introduce you to my fully automatic, 1000 rounds per miniute LMG"
gamerbath: this one is likely for developers only, but sama said they will ship tons of great stuff this week
_cloudost: so no o3?
hikukomoru: You couldn't pay me to move to America
hey1_1hey: Number 1 in heart disease 🦅 🦅 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔
futurist_wizard: Unliveable
futurist_wizard: The zoning in America is just so fucked up
hikukomoru: 60%**
hey1_1hey: 40% obesity rate <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
zonchao: we are always #1
futurist_wizard: What a trashy place
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/fat-man-shoot-gun-murica-usa-gif-11611613
futurist_wizard: I have only been to new york
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: thats just america
futurist_wizard: The people are big too


trojan09205: Maybe try a more restrictive system prompt and low temperature
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:ez:1136267305521774634>
.0xunkn0wn: even though the fix was easier
.0xunkn0wn: so it just rewrote the code completely 😭
.0xunkn0wn: i asked it to fix me one line of code
.0xunkn0wn: guys what do i do gemini 2.5 pro is rewriting too much shit 🙏
ldj: The article isn’t an official post by Nous Research
ldj: Be weary of what you see online
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah, it seems like a group of troubled people that are desperately clinging onto a fake reality
theaiguy69420_89814: This seems extreme
trent_k: it seems to me that most of AO3 is jack off material
theaiguy69420_89814: I think they get the idea, it's a new tool, some of the stuff is theft, etc
theaiguy69420_89814: I mean, typical artists aren't this hateful
trent_k: AO3 is much weirder than that
theaiguy69420_89814: Is it because this is another reminder to them that their efforts in memorizing Harry Potter's birthday was worthless?
trent_k: you've heard it all before
trent_k: basically the typical artist cope about how training an AI on something is the same as stealing it
theaiguy69420_89814: Sorry, why?
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/mermaid-melody-pichi-pichi-cry-about-it-sob-seethe-gif-21116177
trojan09205: Lol u arent exaggerating thats a shit ton of reports
trent_k: 🤓
trent_k: 😏 When fandom gets mad about something...
trent_k: >
> AO3userwhoisnothappy
> 6 days ago
>
> You're waking the sleeping giant by publishing an AO3 scrape here. Fandom is VIOLENTLY anti-AI right now.
>
> Expect to be fighting DMCA takedown notices for the next century because once word gets out, everyone and their brother is going to be coming for this data. When fandom gets mad about something... ask app developers that try and make a profit off the archive.
>
> This isn't a threat, honest, this is "Are you sure you know what you're in for once this gets into the general fandom zeitgeist?"
trent_k: someone uploaded several million AO3 stories to HuggingFace and you could power a small country with the seethe this has generated
trent_k: they fucking hate AI
trent_k: "archive of our own" is a fanfic site, for context
trent_k: https://huggingface.co/datasets/nyuuzyou/archiveofourown/discussions
trent_k: it's really fucking funny
trent_k: guys check this out
trent_k: # emergency 🚨
trojan09205: This is me
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/sleep-time-gif-25989026
theaiguy69420_89814: <:doubt:1241973773683654719>
ldj: <a:happi:1024879860197376010>
ldj: Here is a video of me rn:
theaiguy69420_89814: As well, source?
theaiguy69420_89814: Proof?
ldj: Because I woke up happy
theaiguy69420_89814: Why
ldj: Why you using that emoji lol


hikukomoru: If there is quasar alpha do they also have quasar sigma
spicy.lemonade: Optimus is better than quasar
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: you dont know if quasar alpha is mini
spicy.lemonade: A mini and normal
spicy.lemonade: They are dropping 2
spicy.lemonade: It says in article
spicy.lemonade: How
wellmeaningalien: you dont know that
spicy.lemonade: Wait for Optimus scores
spicy.lemonade: Quasar alpha is mini
wellmeaningalien: doesnt mean anything
spicy.lemonade: So wait
spicy.lemonade: Lmao
spicy.lemonade: Means today
spicy.lemonade: Even sooner than next week
anathemaofmankind: 4.5 has 128k context though?
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: so will gpt 4.1 and gpt 4.1 mini be the base fr o4 and o4-mini
hikukomoru: I don't read bro
spicy.lemonade: In the article
precariousworlds.: ? Tesla Optimus?
spicy.lemonade: O3 and o4
spicy.lemonade: They said this comes after
spicy.lemonade: Along the way
spicy.lemonade: They clearly found better methods
hikukomoru: Damn bruh I wanted o3 or o4 not this shit
spicy.lemonade: I think they are just forgetting 4.5 exists lol
wellmeaningalien: context window is effectively slightly worse than gpt 4.5
spicy.lemonade: And Optimus just dropped
spicy.lemonade: Holy
metaldragon01: It's very good for free
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: Quasar alpha is 4.1 mini
metaldragon01: Mini upgrade matters more
spicy.lemonade: 1 mil context
spicy.lemonade: Secret model demolishing other base models
precariousworlds.: what is quasar alpha?
wellmeaningalien: cant wait for google to release gemini 1.6
spicy.lemonade: 4.1


st.sioux: parallel computing
st.sioux: i just found he is writing some cuda type shit
st.sioux: i looked him up what is he doing?
metaldragon01: They aren't petty. They are serious about agi though
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: rumor has it they're planning for R2 to crash not just the stock market, but also Sam's ego
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: 2 words, Victor Taelin
metaldragon01: o1.ai already merge into alibaba/qwen
metaldragon01: At this point deepseek is shitting in someones cheerios.

I'm not sure we don't see at least 1 notable lab merge or shut down in 12 months
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
metaldragon01: Pray for llama 4 because deepseek isn't slowing down
metaldragon01: This year keeps delivering
metaldragon01: Tsk but a minor upgrade 😏
metaldragon01:
metaldragon01: Seems possible. Should be close.
spicy.lemonade: If 2.0 pro beats o1 pro and o3 mini high for very little itl be so good
metaldragon01: Openai has lead innovation by a mile.
metaldragon01: I wonder what openai will create next though.

Very very curious about how they can offer gpt 5 for free
metaldragon01: Cost is everything tbh
metaldragon01: Google thinking and R2 will likely set the new standard for thinking models
spicy.lemonade: 20% nice
.histic: https://youtu.be/M3b59lZYBW8?si=kNHtcqPY9ZjdY9_L&t=2063
Francis: "And we haven't been able to test o3 on high-compute settings. At all.", "I can make a guess. I guess based on what we saw on o3-low & other models. I think you might get up to like 15 maybe even 20% if you were maxing out the compute setting and spending like 10K per task for instance".
brain4brain: Because that mean AGI would come even sooner
brain4brain: But that’s a good thing
brain4brain: Close enough
spicy.lemonade: That’s o3 low
brain4brain:
brain4brain: I predicted the 5% of o3
.histic: aw
https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1904348005060522422
drewsni: This is bait everyone
tse5_v6o: Chatbot gonna chatbot
777agical: https://x.com/paulgauthier/status/1904304052500148423?s=46
tse5_v6o: Prove me wrong
tse5_v6o: AGI is not going to happen
professorheaven: Literally cursed by success
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I'd hope so, although its time for me to get to bed. Sleep is important for learning after all
hganhhh:
joaoluz19: Cool, by doing this I think you can understand any ML paper.
hey1_1hey: Thats what I usually do, just keep on asking questions, and more questions and then even more


spicy.lemonade: wait wait
hikukomoru: You two look so cute together ☺
hey1_1hey: What server actually is it?
trent_k: i put that im 29, dont blow my cover 🕵
spicy.lemonade: this is insane
spicy.lemonade: 💀
anathemaofmankind: I'm identifying as a girl in the server so I can be cute
hey1_1hey: "Yeah we are 21 and 23"
spicy.lemonade: said i was 18
spicy.lemonade: 18
spicy.lemonade: i did
spicy.lemonade: wait
spicy.lemonade: didnt say my age
spicy.lemonade:
trent_k: <@471334973379706900> how old did you tell them you were
hey1_1hey: BRO WHAT
trent_k: Gonna tell them this is a pic of me and spicy
spicy.lemonade: or sketch
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: if they ask for layers just ask AI togenerate 1 layer below
spicy.lemonade: only post sudo american comic art
spicy.lemonade: dont post anything super detailed
spicy.lemonade: we gotta be slick about the art we post
hey1_1hey: I need the lore
hey1_1hey: What server you on lmao
trent_k: 🕵
hikukomoru: You missed out on so much lore
trent_k: we're spies. this is deep cover
anathemaofmankind: It took like one minute
hey1_1hey: Why are trent and lemonade dating 😭
spicy.lemonade: poly gay they them mninority interacial couple
trent_k: hahaha same
hey1_1hey: What on gods green earth have I walked in on
anathemaofmankind: BRUH
anathemaofmankind: LMAO
anathemaofmankind: The mods will think something is up lmao 💀
spicy.lemonade: 💀
trent_k: spicy is the main one, because he's alpha as fuck
spicy.lemonade: BRO
trent_k: we're a throuple


himekokatagiri: oh
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freak-level-tuff-burt-burt-gif-10321675392694249548
fractalcomputer: I'm the second seniormost moderator on the subreddit. Anemone is the current owner of the subreddit.
himekokatagiri: It's okay we can fix you
hikukomoru: That was already public information 🙏
himekokatagiri: 🚬
himekokatagiri: the secret owner is amongst us
darkstar0818: We going to find out you a 53 year old bald man from Estonia?
fractalcomputer: Who?
st.sioux: just drink 4 cans of coffee like <@471334973379706900> and take an ambien when you need to crash
himekokatagiri: Sashinii yeah
hikukomoru: I wonder
himekokatagiri: I remember some guy he was a mod there
.histic: we already know
himekokatagiri: say who owns r/singularity these days
.histic: sleep is 4 the weak.
get 3 hours of sleep tonight.
you'll feel good 😊
okbut: One day there's going to be an onion link database for celebrity web history
fractalcomputer: Can you not regurgitate marketing lines like they're gospel verses?
himekokatagiri: weirdo putting it lightly
himekokatagiri: It'll reveal to the world (not really it's public) that I'm a massive weirdo
okbut: Yeah that's been in the back of my mind ever since search history
hikukomoru: I’m cooked
himekokatagiri: well
st.sioux: doneso
st.sioux: wait until asi breaks encryption and leaks everyones chats and emails and shit
himekokatagiri: damn you
himekokatagiri: now you ruined my sleep schedule
spicy.lemonade: ^^
spicy.lemonade:
okbut: Can't wait for Google's roast mode
"This you? (pulls an ancient pic from Google Photos)"
spicy.lemonade: lol
himekokatagiri: I have none
hikukomoru: Sam told me
spicy.lemonade: Same said
.histic: wanna bet money
spicy.lemonade: O3 alone is smarter than most PhDs
himekokatagiri: I doubt it's coming out next week
spicy.lemonade: O3, o4 mini, Google models
hikukomoru: o4
himekokatagiri: No fooling? What's happening


wellmeaningalien: tuff
wellmeaningalien: personally id like for mistral to do something but i know they dont got it in them
wellmeaningalien: i believe theyre cooking something good
wellmeaningalien: yeah bro theyve been hyperscaling their clusters a ton recently and cooking a ton of research
drewsni: Gemini flash video transcription is completely useless for this because of the safety problem. If the video is over 30 minutes long, it will almost always fail
wellmeaningalien: aint changing that image anytime soon
wellmeaningalien: big reason why people dont use their model is because they lobotomize them to make them friendly and make them refuse the simplest prompts
metaldragon01: Qwen 3 will impress
metaldragon01: Qwen till now has kept up with Google
wellmeaningalien: ok yeah thats understandable google need to stop being such bitchass cucks tbh and just let us do what we want
drewsni: Hopefully something good because I am a patriotic person and I’d prefer to use American open models
wellmeaningalien: just what is meta cooking tho
wellmeaningalien: google has kept up pretty well too
777agical: More organized than us. You should be uniting all the singularity servers given your positions so we can be organized when the time comes
metaldragon01: Pretty sure deepseek will keep up with Google thinking
wellmeaningalien: the new v3 that was probably distilled by their currently in training model
drewsni: My only problem with Gemini for going through bulk transcripts is 1 out of every 50 will throw a safety error and that’s just more manual work for me
metaldragon01: V3 matches 2.0 pro
wellmeaningalien: idk if r2 would be o3 level i expect it to be gemini 2.5 pro level or above
wellmeaningalien: yeah thats fine probably
metaldragon01: R2 will probably match 2.5/o3
drewsni: True but luckily for this use case I only needed 1k tokens per call
wellmeaningalien: gemini is way better because not only is it super cheap but its way more reliable on long context
metaldragon01: It's a beast
metaldragon01: #4 style controlled on lymsys
drewsni: First time using the new version for me
drewsni: New deepseek v3 is really good, if we all didn’t already know
metaldragon01: Yeap....
drewsni: Well in this case free…
drewsni: Tbf this task could have been completed with gpt 3 + whisper v1, but it certainly helps that I can use deepseek and get more reliably results for .1% the price
.histic: that man loves clickbaiting  about AI & OpenAI/Sam Altman.
but the comments seem to hate Sam & OpenAI... <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
metaldragon01: We've never had anything close to this pace
metaldragon01: You can't beat something that gets better and cheaper at nearly everything
wellmeaningalien: <:Sip:836718497542176772>
wellmeaningalien: we just need to sit and watch the antis lose
metaldragon01: We win by default.
wellmeaningalien: its inevitable people will wake up to just how good and practical ai is and it'll be unstoppable in every industry
wellmeaningalien: yeah i feel like there is such a lack of knowledge of how good ai's gotten
drewsni: We will win the culture war this way
drewsni: Yeah something everyone in this discord could do but nobody in that group has ever really used AI so they don’t know how easy it can be


christiskingrapturenxtmonth: yes
supersteve8000: 💀
supersteve8000: r/whoosh
supersteve8000: all love <3
brain4brain: No
brain4brain: 🤷🏼♂
brain4brain: If they are delaying GPT-5 it better be AGI this time
zonchao: https://x.com/jhong/status/1908329905865318417?
playstation.6: W father
trent_k: The cop shouting GARY NO like he didn't know it was coming. Hahaha
darkstar0818: write a network automation data discovery system that works in a generic manner across various proprietary platforms.  The prompt was quite detailed, not going to post it all here.
hikukomoru: I know this one
trent_k: Real ones will know
st.sioux: what did u ask them to do?
wellmeaningalien: <:selvingsmile:1260626716158726274>
metaldragon01: No excuses
wellmeaningalien: european company btw
wellmeaningalien: 1x NEO
metaldragon01: I need sesame quality minimum now
darkstar0818: all 3 did good on a difficult unique program request.
hikukomoru: Which robot is this
literallyvarane: 10x more useful off rip.
literallyvarane: Give me a Advanced voice + google docs.
darkstar0818: stargazer feels like a lighter weight version of 2.5 pro, moonhowler I could only get to come up once but it was strong
literallyvarane: Honestly if you could *see* the text log for Advanced voice while using AV it would be 10x better.
wellmeaningalien: imagine trying to convince someone that this (autonomous) isn't just a guy in a suit
metaldragon01: Voice and memory really will be key
darkstar0818: nightwhisper is stronger than 2.5pro
metaldragon01: Labs are clearly finding unlocks faster than expected
literallyvarane: Honestly I'm looking more for UX improvements? I think it's getting increasingly difficult to get the most out of these models from a standard text box.
darkstar0818: stargazer, moonhowler and nightwhisper
hikukomoru: Crazy
Google is cooking so hard
metaldragon01: And Google surpassed my expectations
metaldragon01: I didn't think we'd be this far until june
darkstar0818: there are 3 new google models in testing, at least.
literallyvarane: My bad.
literallyvarane: I meant so far lololol
hikukomoru: New google model?
darkstar0818: I tested stargazer its silly good for its size.
metaldragon01: Really Really hard to say atm.

Without a breakthrough things look great. If we actually hit something new? Fk it agi.


futurist_wizard: Wtf is skyblivion
hikukomoru: The videogame
zoermena: Oblivion the movie?
literallyvarane:
hikukomoru: I love Oblivion so much
I'm more hyped for Skyblivion and the Oblivion Remake than o4
zoermena: A smarter answer
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: Gemini’s view is a bit more nuanced I suppose
popsiclejohnithan: China is definitely leading in energy and compute efficiency that's for sure.
futurist_wizard:
a1c4p0ne: Not 10:30?
spicy.lemonade: 30 mins
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/cat-head-bang-exhausted-gif-16831747
hikukomoru: Yup maybe deepseek too
st.sioux: slightly less stupid agi
a1c4p0ne: 1 hour left
hey1_1hey: AGI+
abundantliving_:
hey1_1hey: Actually no scratch that, 100 years ago
zoermena: <a:swagyes:723699383157391390>
hikukomoru: If o4 mini is AGI what does that make o4 full
hey1_1hey: I need it yesterday
memlaswaif: I need agi today
hey1_1hey: AGI time
spicy.lemonade: HYPE HYPE HYPE
hey1_1hey: Welcome
abundantliving_: Hype hype hype
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-sleep-goodnight-meme-goodnight-bro-minecraft-gif-21455562
hey1_1hey: I can feel the autism happniess intrudingf
spicy.lemonade: HYPPEEE
drewsni: 4o
spicy.lemonade: I WLMOST SLEPT THROUGH LIVE STEEAM
literallyvarane: Huh guess I’m cooked by this definition, though I can’t say I agree tbh.
spicy.lemonade: YOOOOOO
hey1_1hey: I am getting giddy for this livestream. I am gonna go make something to eat before it starts
zoermena: Idk
drewsni: “Erm it’s not AGI because the ball bounced 78cm when in real physics I it would have bounced 77.7778cm”
popsiclejohnithan: Out of all the companies it's definitely these two that are the closest.
hikukomoru: I meant that I can see either of them reaching it first
zoermena: <a:CatExcited:1037101227068112916>


anathemaofmankind: And how is the information presented...?

Visually. So then it's a visual problem...like?

I noticed this issue when I screenshot difficult project euler problems and it gets wrong most of the time.

But when I copy the html format it gets it right one shot
hikukomoru: Don't be mean <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
callmepyro: You need to calm down.
callmepyro: You know how I know it's a reasoning issue and not a visual one? Look at all the names and colors it guessed. Every incorrect one is simply that name that is closest to that color. The model doesn't know how to follow the lines, it has no trouble reading the names or colors.
anathemaofmankind: "Nope"

You're actually so dumb
callmepyro: Nope 🙂
anathemaofmankind: Colors are a requirement for this and o4's visuals are close to a human but not equivalent. The analogy stands
callmepyro: Instead of just guessing, lmfao
callmepyro: Also, the genius would probably tell you "hey I'm colorblind so this test about distinguishing colors isn't a great one for me"
callmepyro: No, that would be a situation where they were not presented with all the information to solve the problem.
anathemaofmankind: If a genius is colorblind then are they stupid for guessing wrong colors
callmepyro: Seems like a pointless distinction. All the information to solve the problem is available to the model, it reasoned for 13 minutes. Then ended up guessing completely wrong
alejandrozarzuelo: but it would take me a while
alejandrozarzuelo: its not very hard, but i am not a machine, i cannot do on paper those cmputations, i could do a python program to solve it
anathemaofmankind: It's a visual issue not reasoning
anathemaofmankind: Are you able to solve this
callmepyro: Bad at first grade homework problems
alejandrozarzuelo: damn
gamerbath: <:huh:1136266753656238243>
anathemaofmankind: Here is the problem
anathemaofmankind:
schwiftyinhere: https://huggingface.co/facebook/blt-7b looks like they are releasing a blt model
gamerbath: s(50) mod some large number? isn't this something you can just do with a calculator?
anathemaofmankind: O4 mini low solves it correctly in 1 minute 35 seconds

This is insane
spicy.lemonade: Moravec paradox
gamerbath: crazy how sometimes these models can do hours of work in a minute, and sometimes do 20 seconds worth of work in 13 minutes
gamerbath: 13 minutes jesus
spicy.lemonade: Good at arcagi
spicy.lemonade:
callmepyro: lmao, why wasn't "misaligned autocomplete" an option
_cloudost:
callmepyro: Same, all I use is Gemma rn - Google is dominating open source for single-GPU
st.sioux: open source always follows either way
alejandrozarzuelo: i prefer open source to win the race
st.sioux: at least personally
st.sioux: google
callmepyro: yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: clearly if it was a matter of preference I would like Deepseek to win
retrerox: so 4.1 is newer than 4.5?
alejandrozarzuelo: do we want OpenAI to win the race?


spacetimetsunami: lol wtf bro
_3sphere: Some of the safety people suggest backdoors in them lol
_3sphere: The only feasible way would be to get rid of the necessary chips
a1c4p0ne: 💀
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: hes just another conspiratard
.wolfnacht: Also Deepseek, Qwen and ByteDance is literally protected by CCP.
professorheaven: The thing is even if they were successful in shutting down chatGPT, there’s still Claude, Gemini, Grok, DeepSeek, Qwen, llama, ByteDance, Mistral, list goes on….they would literally need to find a way to shut down all these companies and that’s just not realistic unless you had entire countries working for you
.wolfnacht: I ain't a american : ( i'm asian. Can i still report ?
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
a1c4p0ne: he only knows those 2
_3sphere: IBM lmfao
_cloudost: DeepSeek regarding this post
_cloudost: > Yes, you should report this post to the FBI. The content includes explicit threats of violence, terrorism, and assassination, which are serious crimes. Here’s how you can report it:

> 1. **FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3)**: File a report at [https://www.ic3.gov](https://www.ic3.gov).
> 2. **FBI Tips**: Submit a tip online at [https://tips.fbi.gov](https://tips.fbi.gov) or call your local FBI field office.
> 3. **Reddit Report**: Also report the post directly to Reddit using the platform’s reporting tools for violent content.

> This kind of rhetoric is not only illegal but also dangerous. Authorities are best equipped to assess and act on such threats.
_cloudost: And then this guy will create the worst fate for us all
_cloudost: Because China will lead the AI race anyway
_cloudost: He won't achieve anything if he assassinates US AI researchers
.wolfnacht: lmao, true. I reported his profile btw
_cloudost: Someone who thinks of assassinating and openly talks about it is a danger
_cloudost: I'm not kidding
_cloudost: This person needs to be reported to the FBI and be put on a watchlist
.wolfnacht: regarding this one, i think there would be people who would eventually try something like this. Alot of people live a miserable life and their mind's hazed out with narratives, shaping them.
.histic: 😴 complaining andys
.wolfnacht: His another post

https://www.rxddit.com/r/aiArt/s/7QaWAjr7wf
.histic: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
.wolfnacht: Also ppl on this sub are on path of Una Bomber
.wolfnacht: I've found another one
a1c4p0ne: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTslCsPBGHw&t=1148s
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 simplebench
a1c4p0ne:
destrucules: If you've followed me through this, you now know a bit about what it's like to be an LLM
destrucules: People tend to think about the transporter problem as "which one would I end up as after the scan?" and the answer is not a coin flip, it's *both*. You end up on *both* ends of the transporter. Each branch only experiences what happens on its side, but you yourself become both branches. One is you, the other is you, you are now in two places, having two distinct experiences that are not simultaneously accessible. It's not like... Magic. It's just simply that both branches have the same claim to being continuations of you, and they're both right, even though the branches are not the same as each other after having had separate experiences. That said, if you split and then remerge and then split and then remerge, or otherwise keep your branches in sync by sharing weights, then you experience all of those experiences. The branches are not separate from each other because they all have access to all of their collective experiences. You're one person, but you're not in one place at a time, having one experience at a time. Much as your hand can experience the fur of your cat while your eyes experience the text on your phone, one body can be hiking a mountain while another drives to work, and both are things you're experiencing, at the same time, aware of both, even though they're happening in parallel
destrucules: You can split into multiple branches that are all equally valid and legitimate
destrucules: What I find many people struggle with is that there needn't be only one true you
destrucules: It is continuous from their perspective, just as yours is, and neither of you is actually continuous in the real world. You're not conscious during all of sleep. Only REM sleep, which is a small fraction of each sleep cycle. People also lose continuity when given general anaesthetics and during some near death experiences and comas. The continuity that really matters here is that the information that defines who you are is maintained - that no discrete change is too large. If you were paused and then resumed 100 years later, you'd still be you. Controversially, this also means that if your brain were scanned and then implemented in a computer, you would maintain a continuous thread of consciousness to your biological self, regardless of what then happens to your biological self.
destrucules: We're also very clueless about every other level of scale. We scarcely understand planets, and we use random numbers to patch holes in modeling there too. We scarcely understand stars - they're actually quite misbehaved irl, and our models are much simpler than the objects they are meant to describe. We scarcely understand living organisms. There's really no level of detail where we have a complete description of the universe
destrucules: The same applies to cosmology - we're still very clueless about the structure of the universe on the largest scales of space and time
destrucules: Science isn't complete. There are always hairy edges we can't explain
destrucules: It's more like the boundary of current science
anathemaofmankind: So it's a methodological gap instead of something that objectively can't be measured


3ds0662: twitter is starting to go crazy right now about the new deepseek release but deepseek themselves haven't posted yet usually post around 8-9 am
alejandrozarzuelo: fun fact, the date was chosen because that was when the largest worker srtike against capitalists in the history of the United States happened, and the international socialist union chose it for its significance

its funny how this is taught and celebrated on most countries BUT the US
alejandrozarzuelo: this comment is, with a bit of hindsight, quite hilarious

No offense lol
alejandrozarzuelo: as you can understand, in china they give it an additional importance
alejandrozarzuelo: and the only countries that dont celebrate it are hyper capitalist nations or islamist countries
alejandrozarzuelo: it celebrates the tenacity of the workers against their struggle with the capitalist class
3ds0662: ohh
alejandrozarzuelo: may day is a socialist holiday
3ds0662: this explain
alejandrozarzuelo:
alejandrozarzuelo: it is a very celebrated day all across the world
alejandrozarzuelo: and a few others
alejandrozarzuelo: May day is the first of may also called international workers day

it is a holiday on virtually every country on earth except the US
3ds0662: why would I know about china mayday
3ds0662: yes lol
alejandrozarzuelo: are you american?
3ds0662: explain
3ds0662: ?
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean its important for most of the world but china takes it a step further
alejandrozarzuelo: also mayday is a very important chinese date
3ds0662: oh shit 30th even worse
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: today is april 30
3ds0662: ?
alejandrozarzuelo: the rumours said that they would release on mayday
3ds0662: they've been silent for the most part
3ds0662: april 29th today almost may
3ds0662: hmm when is r2 release man this is getting me excited
maintcrew: like "it clears the password" or some shit
maintcrew: sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root / is the classic but i think an equally damaging and more sneaky is sudo rm -rf /home/username and you lie and tell that does something with your user
brain4brain: Demis definition falls between superhuman AGI and AGI
brain4brain: Thats there tier list
brain4brain: AGI
Superhuman AGI
ASI
brain4brain: Singularity is an event, not an intelligence
okbut: Booted Linux for the first time, what's that cool rm rf command everyone recommends
return_to_monke1_33974: Singularity : intelectual ouput as much as all humans
return_to_monke1_33974: ASI smarter than the Smartest Human
return_to_monke1_33974: isnt that the Singularity ?
brain4brain: ASI is smarter than all of humanity combined
brain4brain: Google co-scientist


technocake.: "A poppy is bright and glistens with dew in the morning, but the important thing is that is is red"
alejandrozarzuelo: Color is the second most important thing after value to take in information from. The world
alejandrozarzuelo: While understanding the world better at the same time
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, the benefit of properly assessing colors to understand the world around us is ab amazing benefit

With only a few extra words and a few extra seconds of thought (at first), you can increase the information density of your speech massively
zoermena: It also helps if you show them how it benefits them. That’s an easy way to get people to do what you want.
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah out of curiosity
st.sioux: and if youre polite theyll believe anything
zoermena: Being forced to
alejandrozarzuelo: Lol
technocake.: is there any other reason?
alejandrozarzuelo: (it's important to be polite when you are being pedantic, being rude while being pedantic only makes people hate you, but if you are polite, people will feel like they have learned something they should have)
zoermena: Do you learn for things in the sake of curiosity or in the interest of something you can add to your pedantic arsenal?
technocake.: also get tested
technocake.: The erm akshually energy warms my pedantic soul
alejandrozarzuelo: Do gods work
alejandrozarzuelo: And for B), we need to normalise the proper use of color in society
alejandrozarzuelo: Becsuse if they don't understand its their problem for A) and I get a chance to be pedantic (cherish those times) naturally
alejandrozarzuelo: No
technocake.: The trouble is that to use these terms you have to A. Care and B. Be talking to someone else who knows these terms
hikukomoru: Colour autism 🙏
alejandrozarzuelo: It is, but it's a neologism
alejandrozarzuelo: Don't discriminate colors
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: cyan in spanish is cian
zoermena: Color try hard 🔥
alejandrozarzuelo: But we have no excuse to be chromatophobic today
alejandrozarzuelo: I understand the historical need for color names
alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok
alejandrozarzuelo: But that's just neologisms
alejandrozarzuelo: Because OF COURSE
technocake.: oh ok
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, people like me who take life seriously do use these terms
alejandrozarzuelo: No we don't

You are thinking of Italian, and they have the word for azure very incorporated into their language

Cyan and jade are ignored in both
technocake.: oh I've heard of this, you have a seperate word for light blue/green in spanish!
hikukomoru: Level up
hikukomoru: Awesome, having more chromosomes is like having a higher level
alejandrozarzuelo: With lots of people and activity
alejandrozarzuelo: And I love crowds
alejandrozarzuelo: I have a lot of friends
alejandrozarzuelo: I am very sociable


zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Tesla/status/1917812113315074055 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: <@378996537704841216>
zonchao: yes ||no lol, pretty sure it was created by xAI||
ldj: is that u
ldj: Defo kept a copy. Sama said himself that they'll prob give a copy of it to future historians lol
zonchao: https://x.com/gork/status/1917774826418364462?
zonchao: xai created a troll account
destrucules: Who dis
zonchao: gork is actually good
zonchao: https://x.com/gork/status/1917739217595363493?
okbut: I guess it sucks for when we want to compare it to 5
okbut: Why are people still preferring it anyway
brain4brain: In 13 days it will be GPT-4o anniversary, and GPT-4 is just depreciate  🤔
hikukomoru: I wish they atleast open sourced it lol
drewsni: Wait I’m sure azure still hosts it right?
metaldragon01: 1000% keeping a copy
destrucules: What do you think happened to it? Do you think they kept a copy of it? Or did they set all of those sectors to "available"?
destrucules: It's getting deprecated next month
destrucules: Probably this year honestly, for both of them. Definitely this year for 4.5
drewsni: i actually feel sad ngl
drewsni: i feel like we should all do something out of respect
okbut: Steady state gaming genre is lit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj689znjxpg
professorheaven: It’s crazy to think that o3 and 4.5 will also be discarded one day
himekokatagiri: even if I never used it
himekokatagiri: I'll miss it
himekokatagiri: lmao
spicy.lemonade: "yes you are god among men the question you asked was so genius i cant help but kneel"
ldj: What do you think its last words were
spicy.lemonade: 👀
spicy.lemonade: hes comming
spicy.lemonade: end of an era
ldj: It was deprecated today
ldj: RIP GPT-4
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/gn-i-sleep-now-fatal-gif-15983404792436004299
trojan09205: Good night friends
trojan09205: Gonna hit the hay for the night. Stayed awake to watch the panthers crush it
trojan09205: I mostly use Gemini API when i just wanna test out stuff for free - but now that I discovered NotebookLM it's really useful too (it runs on Gemini). Veo ive only played around with a bit. but yeah bro i agree that the quality is phenomenal
xskydragon0: I'm tried to access direct on Veo2. On AI Studio I'm have the option here to generate <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>

I don't used so much Gemini '-'
trojan09205: I havent gotten Veo to work with API. Their docs arent great
trojan09205:


spicy.lemonade: i dont think any can affordslowing down
spicy.lemonade: theres deepseek, xai, ssi, thinking machines lab, deepmind, nvidia, openAI, anthropic, tencent, bytedance, baidu
okbut: Mansplaining GPT's models now is like
okbut: They really could've done 4o+
ailoveyoom: I guess Demis isn't a product guy tho
ailoveyoom: Idk tbh, if you want to get into the normie market I think it matters. Which is what OAI is doing, hence why 4o has always been named 4o in the model picker even tho there's been some updates made to it.
spicy.lemonade: as long as its agi
spicy.lemonade: agi could be gpt 4.7 for all i care
spicy.lemonade: youre getting too hung up on naming
spicy.lemonade: performance is what matters
spicy.lemonade: for all i care
spicy.lemonade: they can call it gemini 2.5322
spicy.lemonade: naming doesnt matter
spicy.lemonade: also dude
spicy.lemonade: no 2
spicy.lemonade: 1.5?
spicy.lemonade: 2 months
spicy.lemonade: lasted like what
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.0 was very short lived
spicy.lemonade: for example
spicy.lemonade: they released a working prototype of something larger
okbut: Copacetic with "Just omit it"
spicy.lemonade: the "experimental" tag doesnt realy matter
spicy.lemonade: 4o is constantly changing
spicy.lemonade: all that matters
spicy.lemonade: you can use the model right now
spicy.lemonade: everylab is still tweaking based on feedback
okbut: Otherwise they would just omit it
okbut: Really? I thought that meant they're still tweaking it based on feedback
spicy.lemonade: they have their reasons
spicy.lemonade: nothing
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: what would change
spicy.lemonade: if they removed the word experimental
spicy.lemonade: you have the model
okbut: Just give me the model dawg
okbut: They then suffix it with experimental and preview
spicy.lemonade: 2.5
spicy.lemonade: 2.0


ldj: But it sounds like they aren’t
ldj: Well not really, unless arc tests it with the same 6 attempts per question and 1024 attempts per question as before
alejandrozarzuelo: Or at least in my experience
alejandrozarzuelo: Clause 3.7 is better at coding
alejandrozarzuelo: But while gemini 2.5 is better at most things
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk why
alejandrozarzuelo: Btw
bob082957: https://github.com/ymichael/open-codex
3ds0662: when is that releasing by the way?
zonchao: guess we will know when they bench it
ldj: The released version of O3 lets it use upto 100K reasoning tokens btw, same with O1
ldj: You can also see from the originally published O3 arc-agi data that the model did about 55K tokens per attempt, and that lines up with how much reasoning you can do with the released version of O3 too
ldj: O3 has low,medium and high reasoning effort, and all of these are around the same cost per message as the low medium and high reasoning effort settings for O1. And OpenAI showed this in the original O3 announcement.

And then seperately OpenAI had something else that they used for Arc-AGI called sampling which adds another layer on top of this(which arc actually encourages), with different configurations of high compute efficiency (only 6 attempts per question, and each is using about medium reasoning effort) and low compute efficiency (1024 attempts per question, each using medium reasoning effort)
ldj: The “compute tiers” that arc tested were not the same thing as the “reasoning effort” settings since day 1. OpenAI showed in their own benchmarks since original O3 announcement that these are different
zonchao: i dont see why they'd have to make this statement if new o3 wasnt worse
ldj: “Compute tiers” seems disingenuous from arc here
zonchao: did we get o3 new arc bench?
ldj: The new O3 is improved yea, the original wasn’t trained with tool use RL iirc
zonchao: https://x.com/arcprize/status/1912567067024453926
spicy.lemonade: since it accounts for both efficiency
spicy.lemonade: wtv arc2 is the new goal
spicy.lemonade: o3 pro then sureley
spicy.lemonade: hm
ldj: Looks like they decided to make a slight price reduction to $40 per million tokens though
ldj: They also were transparent about the token cost back then too, and it equaled to $60 per million tokens for arc-agi
ldj: I told people in this chat months ago but I guess most of you either didn’t see that or forgot <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: Although they were transparent about the amount of samplings they did per question
ldj: They didn’t show any score for the pass@1 of O3
ldj: The lowest arc attempt shown for arc-agi was 6 attempts per question, the highest one was 1024 attempts per question
aero447: 🤣
aero447: Cat.
aero447: Cyclops.
spicy.lemonade: no matter
spicy.lemonade: deepmind will just test it on this years IMO
professorheaven: Prolly too high so they didn’t wanna give openAI a heart attack
spicy.lemonade: after all this time
spicy.lemonade: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
spicy.lemonade: was never tested
professorheaven: What is 2.5 pros frontier score anyway?
spicy.lemonade: given usamo scores


spicy.lemonade: if we dont make it safe
spicy.lemonade: or something
spicy.lemonade: asi will kill everyone
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: what
spicy.lemonade: thats how the world ends
spicy.lemonade: we need to focus all research on saftey once we get to agi
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: nah we still need saftey
_cloudost: Not many people have advanced gemini
aero447: When Ooo3g commands.
_cloudost: Like OpenAI
_cloudost: Why doesn't Google remove the  copyright policies
_cloudost: A drawing of Darwin I saved from Google's image generator from August, unfortunately the model has lots of censorship now.
777agical: <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
wellmeaningalien: thats just openai CUA
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/testingcatalog/status/1908202988109287692
.wolfnacht: imagine if google put the veo2 out for everyone and it got the hype, and then sama was forced to release GPT-5 early. 🥵🥵🥵
oooooooooog: teeraira processing unit
spicy.lemonade: tpu's
.wolfnacht: how are they gonna manage soo much compute if they release it for everyone ? but honestly it'll be mindblowing if they did.
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: Veo2 is coming out soon for advanced gemini users ?
literallyvarane: Feel like the *major* unlock is agent swarms tbh.
destrucules: Scaling the context length won't get us where we need to go, though, which is continual learning
destrucules: From here on out the main unlocks won't be from raw intelligence (though we'll keep scaling that too) but rather from expanding modalities, training across more diverse and autonomous environments, and bringing together a rich suite of tools for models to use
literallyvarane: Nah I think context does matter a lot tbh. For me that’s what Google’s offerings compelling.
destrucules: Absolutely. UI though, not context length
wellmeaningalien: agree
wellmeaningalien: whack
literallyvarane: Hot take here:

I think we’re increasing hitting a UI/context limit on usefulness of these models rather than raw intelligence.
wellmeaningalien: everyone already forgot cause it was so mid lol
destrucules: And yet it wasn't so long ago that what is now the present was then the future
clevermoniker: Janus 7B
clevermoniker: they already did
spicy.lemonade: not deepseek
spicy.lemonade: qwen will
oooooooooog: its called the present actually
spicy.lemonade: deepseek wont  do image gen likeley
destrucules: Remember how much you anticipated the models we currently have today, though. Relative to where we were a few months ago, you've gotten a lot of new toys. If the future seems too far away, appreciate the future you already live in


futurist_wizard: And my mummy makes me food so i can save
wellmeaningalien: Its a decently large apartment tbh
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm sure that's cheaper
alejandrozarzuelo: I lived in a 10sqmt appartment
wellmeaningalien: Im getting a shared apatment with a roommate for like 110€
okbut: I thought in most of the world it's common to live with your family into your 30s
futurist_wizard: Bare minimum
rayanquitplayin: It’s ass
futurist_wizard: In london for anywhere decent its 2k a month
anathemaofmankind: Imagine living with your parents
st.sioux: only i have a job
hikukomoru: Spanish people don't work
st.sioux: this is the unemployment channel
futurist_wizard: G
futurist_wizard: Innit
futurist_wizard: Rents expensive
futurist_wizard: Bruv its a world wide tradition
wellmeaningalien: Like this month
wellmeaningalien: Im moving soon lmao loser
alejandrozarzuelo: Need to finish my studies first
wellmeaningalien: Its only bad if ur parents suck
wellmeaningalien: Is it
st.sioux: you can just get a job bro
wellmeaningalien: Can never be a freak like goat mach
alejandrozarzuelo: As a closing statement, living with parents SUCKS, and it's one of Spain's worst traditions that it's so common
futurist_wizard: I almost know what that is
hikukomoru: I am ashamed and surprised I still don't have the sex pest role
wellmeaningalien: Are u gonna fuck him
hikukomoru: What a tsundere
wellmeaningalien: I wonder what happens down in the sex pest channel
alejandrozarzuelo: Lmao
futurist_wizard: But i do worry that i am too mean sometimes
okbut: I'm still creaming over the fact that AI is helping McDonald's let their customers know the ice cream machine is broke faster
futurist_wizard: I usually am only mean to people i enjoy talking to
hikukomoru: Sir this is the goon channel
wellmeaningalien: Alejandro I think youre stupid
drewsni: That’s how far our relationship has come
wellmeaningalien: MEEK
drewsni: Alejandro I’ll have you know that I had no pleasure when I found out you got banned
hikukomoru: I do <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>


fuhulootogan: federal agent
alejandrozarzuelo: we are just talking about the effects AI will have on the economy, but you do you
zonchao: L take
fuhulootogan: start a rebellion
inferno0879: yes there are no retards irl
fractalcomputer: Is that supposed to be a good thing?
fuhulootogan: this is why you need to overthrow the government
fuhulootogan: yes
archon.e: Retards fuel the internet
zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>
zonchao: L take
hikukomoru: Hopefully not
But given the current government you guys have they're just likely to let people starve
zonchao: this is true
inferno0879: just devils advocating
fractalcomputer: It's as if this server's become a breeding ground for retardation.
fuhulootogan: thats really optimistic
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/poseidon-fortnite-fortnite-poseidon-fortnite-evenpancake-breakdown-fortnite-gif-7175672879043212206
alejandrozarzuelo: btw, china, the most technologcally integrated major economy, is already seeing the effects of the singularity on employment and prices

china has suffered from near deflation for a while, as their productivity per worker and the price of energy have dropped very fast

the chinese economy is struggling to cope with the change in employment already

this is despite 5% gdp growth, which is quite robust

this deflation china is having will be the first sign in ALL countries that the singularity is meaningfully impacing the economy
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/raygun-raygunn-raygun-breakdance-raygun-breakdancing-breakdance-raygun-gif-3035521202497175510
archon.e: Mental breakdown
fuhulootogan: what kind of a breakdown
fuhulootogan: breakdown
archon.e: Yes. Scary thinking about it. But I’m being optimistic. Almost had a breakdown when i realized what was coming
fuhulootogan: uh
archon.e: Our consciousness is a great filter
zonchao: there will be a period of turmoil, it will result in the death of millions
inferno0879: one could argue the subsconscious has more processing power
archon.e: Atleast we will be free
alejandrozarzuelo: so that is why i want more unemployment
archon.e: I can’t wait for massive unemployment and layoffs
alejandrozarzuelo: improving AI will lead to unemployment once it gets good enough
fuhulootogan: okay
archon.e: It just keeps on changing
alejandrozarzuelo: we need to continue improving AI technology, which will unemploy millions of people
archon.e: What’s the AGI goal post?
fuhulootogan: how is that relevant
fuhulootogan: okay but
archon.e: Heard it got 5 badges
archon.e: Genini will soon become a pokemon master
alejandrozarzuelo: progress on AI i said


fractalcomputer: The study of group theory became standard practice in physics thereafter; comparable to the introduction of relativity in importance.
okbut: Marie Curie put in the labor toward finding the great scientific findings of it, she's commended for the huge health risk as well
hey1_1hey: 3rd person to say that now
hey1_1hey: Doesn't sound important enough <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
hikukomoru: Wtf is that emote
fractalcomputer: Standardise the study of ideals of rings in algebra and introduce group theory to physics.
zoermena: I read yesterday that Marie Curie figured out radium?
joaoluz19: It's not about Theodore, it's about the possibility of waifus.
hey1_1hey: Hate women <:Alan:1136264610161365003> , name 1 thing a women has done? I can't because I dont know any
zoermena: YES THIS IS THE WAY THANK YOU
hey1_1hey: Yeah I am
okbut: Can edit/remove/add any
okbut: Not sure where to post this btw, but here's a cool CI for efficiency

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/q - Pose ten questions to clarify user goals. For questions that might get ambiguous answers, include additional follow-up questions for them;
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fractalcomputer: Why would one ever aspire to be someone as pathetic as the protagonist from Her?
hikukomoru: I feel like you're becoming more misogynistic
And I do not appreciate it
hey1_1hey: Same with water over lava in minecraft. I can hear that by just thinking about it
hey1_1hey: Indeed, I heard every miniute detail of this
joaoluz19: Images that have sound
joaoluz19: How can it be if it's me in the photo?
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-2509793393331961711
hikukomoru: Literally me
okbut: Every app nowadays requires a goddamn 2-factor, then the focus is broken
hey1_1hey: People who do maths on paint scare me
hey1_1hey: I use my computer when doing my maths (and pen and paper of course)
hey1_1hey: Has someone gone along deleating the emojis recently? Theres a couple missing
okbut: Requires you wait a certain amount of time before opening an app
okbut: "Minimalist" is a good app for this on phone btw, though I think it has a limit of 3 apps you can set allowed access for unless you pay
hey1_1hey: Might I suggest Femtanyl <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
I promise they are good
hey1_1hey: You into some crazy shit Fractal 🥵
fractalcomputer: I only listen to throat singing ambience videos.
hey1_1hey: If I happned again I got a gameplay tho
hey1_1hey: Indeed, I think it could've been alright if I did something productive but I was really good at finding exuses for why I should do anything else
zoermena: I didn’t do anything of value
zoermena: Lockdown was super mid
hey1_1hey: I dont have that problem luckily, although I remember duing lockdown I used to try and circumvent doing work by doing all sorts of things. I litterly put houdini to shame with the stuff I was pulling. Anything to get out of poetry
agezes:
okbut: I will inevitably turn this thing off or circumvent it for some small thing related to my task or not lol
It had better come with the requirement to solve some puzzle or something
hey1_1hey: Just a thought
hey1_1hey: People?
_3sphere: maybe I just didn't find the right one yet


supersteve8000: if > 100 % =1.0
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> Further developed version of the METR time horizon capabilities extrapolation. (Again this is assuming things don't slow down, nor speedup more than they already are, but just stays the same)

As an explainer, this is saying that frontier models in 2029 will be capable of performing work with 95% accuracy that takes humans 8 hours to do.
(vibe coded version below, but am working on a more rigorously calculated version later)

There is just 3 simple rules that allow this capability data to be derived.

- As of start of 2025, the frontier available frontier model is capable of doing tasks with 50% accuracy that take humans about 30 minutes to achieve.
- For a given model, there is a halving in error rate for every 3.5X reduction factor in the time horizons it's attempting.
- The rate at which model time horizon capabilities is increasing at a fixed accuracy, is a doubling every 7 months.
supersteve8000: <:based:1136264604788473946> ^
supersteve8000: ah so [ a i ] becomes [ a s ] ?
hikukomoru: This is no better than creative writing
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: this is doomer garbage disguised as hopium
supersteve8000: <a:guitarbear:1026738447521681448>
_letterbox: https://ai-2027.com/

New hopium timeline get
supersteve8000: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
clevermoniker: but GTA 6 will be the last relevant one, that's for sure
supersteve8000: <:this:1136266732542119946>
clevermoniker: no it wont <:idk:1136264106937171999>
supersteve8000: xd
supersteve8000: no lie tho
supersteve8000: 🥹
supersteve8000: oh yeah it can
supersteve8000: it is
supersteve8000: yeth
clevermoniker: this is the singularity discord sir
supersteve8000: ay what about 2033 y'all
clevermoniker: tired of this stupid era
clevermoniker: hopefully not tho
clevermoniker: still could drag to 2030
clevermoniker: I think 2027-28 for higher than not chance
supersteve8000: - d
otub: cause i said so
supersteve8000: base
otub: 2027
supersteve8000: xD
supersteve8000: anyways...
brain4brain: ||yes|| <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
supersteve8000: *awake*
supersteve8000: well not mine but
supersteve8000: i feel like it is, uh
clevermoniker: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> ||no||
brain4brain: EOY 2025
supersteve8000: *
supersteve8000: *push it ++ years*
supersteve8000: imagine if we are this advanced now
clevermoniker: what do you mean by 2028 being peak?


fuhulootogan: nay nay
archon.e: To what’s going to happen
fuhulootogan: i ask for the definition to be on the same page as my interlocutor to prevent any confusion
archon.e: So much relate
archon.e: I’ve been recently watching the orville
archon.e: Jobs won’t be there. Money will be a thing of the past
st.sioux: but what is a lung if not a construct of our mind?
alejandrozarzuelo: dont let perfect be the enemy of good, 99% artist unemployment is 99% as good as 100%
retrerox: "living out lungs"
hikukomoru: Define "lol"
fuhulootogan: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: I just want most artist to lose their jobs, if a few remain doing the little art people are willing to pay because its human made its ok
fuhulootogan: no
fuhulootogan: congrats you're a moral relativist
hikukomoru: Bro stop bringing up the dictionary for every word
alejandrozarzuelo: AI has goals and tools to accomplish them, just as we do

couldnt you say we do what biology tells us to do?

at this point you get into free will theory
retrerox: There is gonna be people wanting human art like there is still people wanting traditional art
archon.e: Good and bad are relative
retrerox: I should ask chat gpt what are their pronouns?
retrerox: idk
retrerox: They
retrerox: Sorry
alejandrozarzuelo: him?
retrerox: Bad artist are cooked*
ailoveyoom: Define define
retrerox: Is not really creativity
archon.e: Else artists are cooked
retrerox: AI just do what you ask him to do
archon.e: Can human made art have some fingerprint that ai can’t reproduce?
alejandrozarzuelo: unless you require biology in your definition, we could continue to go down this rabbithole
st.sioux: define wild
st.sioux: pulling up the dictionary like that is wild
archon.e: Human made art will still have value
alejandrozarzuelo: <@1212375743863066645>
alejandrozarzuelo: sorry wrong ping
alejandrozarzuelo: <@723564215574462474> idk if you realize this but this conversation has been

Art requires creativity

AI has creativity

this is the definition of creativity, it requires senses

AI has senses

this is the definition of senses, it requires organs

AI has organs

this is the definition of organs

etc etc

unless you anchor any of these definitions to EXCLUSIVELY mean biological systems, AI fits in all of them
ailoveyoom: Just say colors are fake 😈
frittata: One might argue this is similar to how text, audio, and visual digital representations convey the physical reality to an LMM which then interprets the representation to get a sense of the original <:smirk:1303825263208955904>
fuhulootogan: define organs
alejandrozarzuelo: but they are organs


wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: more like
sarik0497: Indeed. These things will always be there as long as it doesn’t “understand” entirely what it’s doing
hey1_1hey: Can anyone generate an infographic with 4o for obscure kinks and fetishes please 🙏
spicy.lemonade: reasoning will fix all the kinks
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: in strawberry
spicy.lemonade: how many rs
spicy.lemonade: i think this is equivalent to
spicy.lemonade: 😔 still kinks
sarik0497: Not sure what happened with his sword
spicy.lemonade: if i see a dalle image one more time
sarik0497: Wow, that’s honestly bad
hey1_1hey: I would get my ass beat by a perceptron 😭
hikukomoru: Someone make a tomboy for his holiness
sarik0497: I’m just waiting for all the jailbreaks people will find to do these sort of things
hey1_1hey: I dont
hey1_1hey: really
hey1_1hey: I dont have a preference
drewsni: image uploading isnt working for me rn
hey1_1hey: I mean either or really
hey1_1hey: Or femboy
spicy.lemonade: and chess
spicy.lemonade: someone try out arc agi
spicy.lemonade: bro
tors.exe: Someone Make tomboy !
st.sioux: fair
hey1_1hey: We got image AGI before text AGI
technocake.: clients is the worst part, I love coding
st.sioux: i saw a fart compilation with this guy
hey1_1hey: Give him a break 😭
spicy.lemonade: atleast i can say i was top 50 in the world for golang in 2023
drewsni:
hikukomoru: Give this guy his own anime 🔥
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: what do u think is worse? clients
drewsni: <@1068159407671754824>
drewsni: YOOOOOOOOOO
.histic:
technocake.: spoken like a retard