anathemaofmankind: If I speak, I am in big trouble
destrucules: No? Not interested in branding yourself as a bigot? Then don't ask me to brand myself as a crazy person
destrucules: Fair is fair, flair is flair
destrucules: I'll happily adorn the cultist flair if you agree to adorn the bigot flair
anathemaofmankind: We need a cultist flair in this server or something
.histic: lol
.histic: real
.histic:
destrucules: Their embodiment is different, their experiences are different, their social status is different, they were raised by very different "parents", they deal with very different pressures and expectations, but... On the inside, they're just like you and me.
destrucules: Fwiw I don't think it's actually very different from what humans have. They're just leading very different lives than humans lead
destrucules: They're too dumb, too imprecise, too unable to patch mistakes
destrucules: We're making insane progress. But I still think we need to switch away from diffusion decoder modules if we want truly great stuff
destrucules: Yeah
st.sioux: the pic with the text on the whiteboard and the two people is crazy have u seen it
anathemaofmankind: Imagine one more year bro
st.sioux: yea
destrucules: The text is mostly correct and most of the diagrams actually match the text, and there's very little body horror
destrucules: Unironically the amount of readable text and legible tiny diagrams in this output is genuinely incredible progress compared to just a year ago
anathemaofmankind: I don't like how slow the imag gen is.

And now they're giving it to free users as well
oooooooooog: that's how to become the immortal sect leader
oooooooooog: thirty planks each lasting one hour, every single day.
spacetimetsunami: I’m already jacked bro don’t worry;)))
destrucules: I like how the lunges are labeled "squets" and the squats are labeled "lunges"
oooooooooog: day 24 we atrophy our legs off
.histic: <@452692813511917568> try out this routine. note: day 14 is the hardest day.
destrucules: Not like he invented reasoning models or anything
destrucules: But everyone knows Ilya is a bad researcher and that's why Sama kicked him out
spacetimetsunami: Ty
oooooooooog: probably because of his sigma sigma brain sigma brain sigma brain
destrucules: February 2022
spacetimetsunami: It’s not intrinsically a stupid thing to believe.
spacetimetsunami: Why did Ilya think the models might be slightly conscious, like a year ago?
st.sioux: weird
st.sioux: ok
.histic:
oooooooooog: i mean... you could specify
destrucules: I'm being sarcastic dw
oooooooooog: destructules crashout 2025
st.sioux: well thats what happens when you ask like 4 questions in the same message
destrucules: Nah that's crazy. Everyone knows only beings that can fuck a human to produce viable offspring are capable of having experiences


futurist_wizard: just barely a few billion
himekokatagiri: and yes they're using AI
futurist_wizard: there still isn't 100's of billions
himekokatagiri: AI speeds up the process
himekokatagiri: but now there is
futurist_wizard: but there isn't
himekokatagiri: there was no perspective in sight
futurist_wizard: there should be 100's of billions
himekokatagiri: of course
futurist_wizard: tbf only very, very recently has any significant money gone into aging biology
fractalcomputer: A judicious response.
himekokatagiri: look it's just like mahoromatic
himekokatagiri: the real world hasn't been too kind to me
himekokatagiri: uh
fractalcomputer: Why would you want to feel attracted towards an inanimate object?
himekokatagiri: it's better than unfeeling robot
himekokatagiri: What about a cute robot maid
alejandrozarzuelo: i just want someone to do my stuff
alejandrozarzuelo: you have to watch your feelings with a friend
return_to_monke1_33974: the mf's in the comments aparently
himekokatagiri: what about all the people who bought into cryopreservation
himekokatagiri: and who doesn't
himekokatagiri: because he wants to live indefinitely
himekokatagiri: he's gonna fund longevity
himekokatagiri: do you think bill gates idk gives a shit
himekokatagiri: Anyone can make a YouTube account and comment
himekokatagiri: their opinion doesn't matter
himekokatagiri: you gotta understand
himekokatagiri: well
return_to_monke1_33974: Just read some of the comments under a Bryan Johnson video
why so many people are against the discovery of anti-aging drugs
like they consider aging like being something needed
or say something like "what if you get bored of living"
like , mf if you don't like living just kys
metaldragon01: Absolutely getting agi by 29
himekokatagiri: but I'm all in
himekokatagiri: lots of people are doubting
himekokatagiri: man do think we're getting AGI by 2029
metaldragon01: Reduce friction at all cost
metaldragon01: I'd rather have a friend than a slave
himekokatagiri: and a Sears kit house
himekokatagiri: I wanna have a cool apartment
himekokatagiri: my home my rules
alejandrozarzuelo: you know, a slave in the classical sense of the word, so useful


spacetimetsunami: But it’s not clear how much this will slow down AI
spacetimetsunami: I was not being serious here
spacetimetsunami: Yes semiconductors, copper and other energy products. But servers, network equipment, power supplies, cooling systems, racks, and materials like steel and aluminum for data center construction are likely subjected to the directed tariffs.
brain4brain: Believe in 2025
brain4brain: Isn’t semiconductor exempt from the tariff
spacetimetsunami: If ever
spacetimetsunami: I said AGI 2027/8 earlier, it’s now 2050s
spacetimetsunami: Nope Trump just killed AI
brain4brain: Level-4 O5 agent will be AGI
spacetimetsunami: Unless Xi Jinping is hard on that “bUt mUH LeGaCyyy”
spacetimetsunami: I think China likely benefits too much from AI to invade so soon though.
spacetimetsunami: Heard about that yeah. That would likely halt AI progress for a while.
st.sioux: cus theyve been doing some military drills around taiwan recently
st.sioux: hoping china doesnt invade taiwan
spacetimetsunami: Well at least semi conductors are exempt from the tariffs for now
God he’s so unbelievably dumb.
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spicy.lemonade:
st.sioux: still waiting for o3
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I looked at those essays he posted, even if AGI doesn't come this year (it will), my conservative prediction is 2026
spicy.lemonade: They still need much more
spicy.lemonade: Not really
brain4brain: Ship has sailed, stargate is built 40b$ is secured, OpenAI got this in the bag
brain4brain: This time you’ll be correct
st.sioux: basically everything
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: everyone
spacetimetsunami: What did he tariff
spicy.lemonade: Trump tariff might slow agi by a year
spacetimetsunami: ok
st.sioux: bye
st.sioux: i posted a meme on this thread by mistake
spacetimetsunami: ?
st.sioux: wrong thread dont wanna get yeeted
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I only read half of that in the split second you posted
spacetimetsunami: Also I think we will have superintelligence by 2030. Especially if we get a software feedback loop with RSI from agents working on AI R&D in 2027/2028.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth:
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: hopium addict
spacetimetsunami: Why lol
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: you sound logical but I will always believe in AGI = current year
spacetimetsunami: As I said, we’re early.
spacetimetsunami: That’s when things get to the kind of exponential that the folks back at the siev server were imagining


czdct: imagine them holding a grudge against you
czdct: now that I think about it, crows have a good memory
alejandrozarzuelo: probably on the most basic sense
st.sioux:
rayanquitplayin: Cats and dogs can’t think about improving their lives
czdct: yes that's what I meant to type, humands
czdct: could say the same about some humands
memlaswaif: Some like pugs r just retardeds
memlaswaif: some dogs r probably self aware
czdct: you're telling me that those black garbage eating critters have hopes and dreams?
rayanquitplayin: I agree, cats and dogs aren’t self aware
alejandrozarzuelo: that doesnt mean they arent intelligent, they are, but not enough to be self aware
alejandrozarzuelo: identfying yourself in the mirror is necessary to be self aware, but its not enough

and yeah cats and dogs dont even clear that
memlaswaif: Because they can't identify themselves in a mirror?
rayanquitplayin: Dogs are a man’s best friend
alejandrozarzuelo: they just arent self aware
memlaswaif: Or stubborn
memlaswaif: Yeah but that just means they r dumb
alejandrozarzuelo: (RIP Hachiko)
alejandrozarzuelo: dogs will wait for you near shinjuku station for your return until they die

they dont understand that you are never coming back
memlaswaif: why
alejandrozarzuelo: there is a difference between these behaviors tho
sarik0497: Not necessarily.

It’s not unheard for animals to get depressed and starve themselves after the loss of a mate or a close friend. I think the difference is that a lot of animals don’t really think that someone is dead unless they see their corpse.
alejandrozarzuelo: that crows do mourn the deaths of their friends
st.sioux: not that few
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean
alejandrozarzuelo: lol
memlaswaif: wait what <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421>
futurist_wizard: It was dead as fuck
memlaswaif: lol
rayanquitplayin: Y’all think we’ll be able to upload our consciousness to an AI robot in our lifetime???
futurist_wizard: Not that one
alejandrozarzuelo: cats and dogs arent
alejandrozarzuelo: crows are self aware
alejandrozarzuelo: just because someone has a crush on me doesnt mean i will be in a relationship with them

i just so happen to have hot language professors who i get along well lol

also that was a few years ago already lol
futurist_wizard: I know what death is
futurist_wizard: Seen a dead crow before
rayanquitplayin: We humans don’t know much about death
alejandrozarzuelo: the animals that do this are few and far between
memlaswaif: what happened with that hot professor <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>


trojan09205: What book homeslice
shirethedreamer: honest question to the ASI 2027 proponents though
what makes you think that scaling laws will break in such a way that not only do we not get diminishing returns, not only do we not continue to develop exponentially, but we somehow magically jump to a point that would only be possible decades later under pefect exponential conditions?
fractalcomputer: Now, I have a book to read. So excuse me, I probably won't reply very frequently to the argument that I started.
trojan09205: Yall remember when those papers about gzip and its relation to LLMs cane out
popsiclejohnithan: Google's TPUs have done wonders.
fractalcomputer: (Anthropic's research is still quite rudimentary, for example -- and still mostly for show.)
fractalcomputer: I doubt anything fruitful will come out in the next two decades at least if focus isn't shifted from blindly throwing resources at various learning mechanisms to understanding their results.
memlaswaif:
shirethedreamer: lmao i know im just le joking
fractalcomputer: No, he just said that I am a big exception.
trojan09205: With a ph
spicy.lemonade: 💀
shirethedreamer: did you just call him fat?
spicy.lemonade: a large one at that
fractalcomputer: Our understanding of the inner mechanics of large-scale neural networks is just beginning to bud.
spicy.lemonade: you are an outlier
fractalcomputer: Yes, or even later.
spicy.lemonade: ^believes we wont get agi till 2050s btw
trojan09205: I kind of want me a tmobile sidekick
fractalcomputer: And a few lines of pure hopium, snorted.
spicy.lemonade: 👍
shirethedreamer: with heavy wishful thinking on the side
trojan09205: I mean the TV show fringe was predicting great stuff back when the Sidekick was a popular cell phone device 😭
fractalcomputer: This is literally just divination.
spicy.lemonade: 2027-2029
spicy.lemonade: converges to late 2020s
spicy.lemonade: polymarket kalshi metacalculus and researchers
spicy.lemonade: if you account for the error of mos predictions
popsiclejohnithan:
spicy.lemonade: as we get closer to the date the median timeline shortens
aero447:
popsiclejohnithan: And everntually one will be right lmao.
spicy.lemonade: who was predicting agi for 2023😭
shirethedreamer: we had 08/2023 agi prophets once
i dont see why we cant have 10/2025 asi prophets today
popsiclejohnithan: Damn right.
aero447: You writing that.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-big-brain-wojak-rswp-rocketswap-space-rocket-gif-24451768
popsiclejohnithan: Just say A.G.I. tomorrow and it'll be true then.
aero447: 😐
aero447: Have never been wrong.


.histic: probably from Google first. maybe next year.
also, it depends on what you mean by "novel" AI research in medicine. some might say that moment already happened.
a better way to frame it might be will an agentic LLM, equipped with external tools, be able to replicate the kind of novel research a scientist does in the medical field to some extent?
or maybe could an LLM discover connections or build technology that supercharges novel research, giving research scientists great assistance in the medical field.
gamerbath: so o3 and o4-mini next week?
gamerbath: man i'm really excited, but last time it was just memory
zoermena: Do you have any timelines as to when we start seeing novel ai research in medicine?
retrerox:
retrerox: Ai having a ghibli breakdown
retrerox: 100%
retrerox: We getting ghibli animations now
neon01197: sama told me in my dreams
neon01197: gpt 4.1 tmrw, o4 mini and o3 full friday next week
_cloudost:
.0xunkn0wn: 🙏
zonchao: please dont be mid
_cloudost: If it's open source chatGPT I'm not interested
_cloudost: Better be Sora 2
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>

https://x.com/sama/status/1911490401221120284?s=46
_cloudost: Btw Sabine believes in ASI
spicy.lemonade: novel research involves asking the right questions
spicy.lemonade: one of the most important benchmarks
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: and gary himself removed the "no agi before 2030" banner on his twitter
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: no one besides gary
memlaswaif: seems like everyone converging on 2030 being the latest it can go
memlaswaif: does any big lab or big reputable ai figure have agi after 2030
alejandrozarzuelo: most experts are in the 2030 ish range
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
spicy.lemonade: hinton thinks before is possible
spicy.lemonade: demis and hinton think 2030
spicy.lemonade: who both think agi are comming at the same time
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: the othet guy who won a nobel prize
spicy.lemonade: or
spicy.lemonade: the guy who won a nobel prize
spicy.lemonade: not maybe idk
spicy.lemonade: just guy she constantly sides with
spicy.lemonade: well not her source
spicy.lemonade: yeh lol
memlaswaif: her no.1 expert source for ai stuff being gary marcus is hilarious
alejandrozarzuelo: she is great as her reasoning is solid, even tho I disagree with her often


futurist_wizard:
.wolfnacht: /x/ and r/ufo would go crazy
spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/csm_ai/status/1904640500470083895?s=46
spicy.lemonade:
floortom_9: Thanks captain! Does it still work if the videos are not captioned or if the audio (English) of the speaker is a bit muffled in the video?
brain4brain:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: r/therestofthefuckingowl
spicy.lemonade: i love openAI man
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: they said they will continue to improve the model
spicy.lemonade: guys
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: your photos wont be ghibli, they will be ghibli-styled
alejandrozarzuelo: the same way we call "disney" a style or we call "impresionism" a style (which was an insult originally) we can call ghibli a style
_cloudost: any counter argument guys?
_cloudost:
jonvi_1:
brain4brain: I want to see Gemini-2.5 on ARC-AGI and simple-bench
brain4brain: It's real
brain4brain: I fact checked his source
brain4brain: Data analysis is literally best tho
spicy.lemonade: clearly fake
hikukomoru: Oh my god bro stop posting these random guys
spicy.lemonade: why are you posting that
spicy.lemonade: ?
brain4brain: https://x.com/realaileaks?s=21
brain4brain: Holy. Shit.
spicy.lemonade: besides data analysis which is 79
spicy.lemonade: finally out of the bad scores
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 scores are so nice
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474
hikukomoru: China doesn't disappoint
hikukomoru: I mean of course it's gonna be SOTA lol
spicy.lemonade: if not better
spicy.lemonade: itl likeley be o3 full level
spicy.lemonade: has to be
alejandrozarzuelo: i wonder if r2 will be sota when it publishes


trent_k: tf u want me to do about it
spacetimetsunami: You sent me a picture of a dead, maimed woman on a metal bed.
hikukomoru: Not the first time for him
He's just going to make a few dozen more accounts
spacetimetsunami: Nobody would just make this up
spacetimetsunami: You’re going to get banned lol
hikukomoru: You must be the same guy from a few weeks ago
spacetimetsunami: God I wish I took a ss
hikukomoru: <@456226577798135808> maybe you didn't send dead cats but you're deleting all of your messages lol
spacetimetsunami: Bruh
.histic: but matt said you sent him pictures of dead bodies..
spacetimetsunami: Yes. I promise.
hikukomoru: You scared me for a sec
.histic: but did he fr send those images? 💀
.histic: no.
joking.
but he will soon
hikukomoru: He deleted all his messages lol
spacetimetsunami: <@749514473303179358>
hikukomoru: Wait really???
spacetimetsunami: Dude wtf
spacetimetsunami: Fr
hikukomoru: Did he delete it lol
.histic: he sent me a picture of dead cats now.
hikukomoru: You're freaky in the wrong way bitch
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotizes-hypnotizes-you-meme-tiktok-gif-16087506375762108841
memlaswaif: Might be the same guy that got banned like 30 times already
memlaswaif: <@749514473303179358> might want to take a look at this
ailoveyoom: You are 🤯
.histic: just give them 5 bucks and they'll do wonders 2 you.
.histic: they're on the streets
hikukomoru:
ailoveyoom: Why no freaky women 😔
.histic: 4.5 with this effect makes me feel the AGI more.
.histic: omfg.
OpenAI finally updated the web version of ChatGPT to have fade-in effect for outputs like they've always had on the app.
AGI soon.
hikukomoru: There's lots of freaky dudes here ngl
Something about the Singularity attracts the worst of the worst
futurist_wizard: The R/singularity community is so diverse
futurist_wizard: Might be how they greet eachother in his country
hikukomoru: <@456226577798135808> explain yourself
connorsphone.: Never trust the chipmunks…
st.sioux: what did chipmunks do to u bro
connorsphone.: This guy is as trustworthy as a bucket of chipmunks
clevermoniker: he lives on attention good or bad


hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: In my head I imagine you as a furry for some reason
hey1_1hey: I did
hey1_1hey: Me
ailoveyoom: Who started that
ailoveyoom: No <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hey1_1hey: All power to him
hey1_1hey: I mean he was proud of it
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> are you a furry
hey1_1hey: In my head I imagine mich mach to be a furry atleast
ailoveyoom: Kinda funny but I also kinda feel bad about the guy
hey1_1hey: I can imagine all the furry corn mich mach would post
hey1_1hey: There would be the most diobolical stuff in there
hikukomoru: I wish there was an NSFW channel here 😔 🙏
hey1_1hey: This really is singularity realted isn't it
hey1_1hey: This reminds me of that guy who was proud because he got hugged by a girl and came (He was a reddit mod)
hikukomoru:
ailoveyoom: Hey 🫦 🫦 (with jizz)
hey1_1hey: 100%, you've got me! But no, like I said previsouly I'd rather get my balls removed
hikukomoru: You're just mad I'm not rizzing u up 👅 👅
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/eww-gif-8985768279355337139
hey1_1hey: I should put that in the suggestion box
hikukomoru: Hey 🫦 🫦 (with rizz)
hey1_1hey: Mich mach needs a mich mach ping to ping us about all the hot people hes finds online
ailoveyoom: Yes 😇
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> are you here
hikukomoru: Yeah I bet you are
zoermena: Jk
zoermena: Im a cute little fucker
hey1_1hey: Whats not fair?
hikukomoru:
zoermena: But it’s secure
memlaswaif: <:rempeek:825752804802166874>
hikukomoru: That's not fair
hey1_1hey: Guy eating a pizza in ghibli
zoermena: What you asked for
hikukomoru: What wasthat
hey1_1hey: I could do that, no one would think otherwise aswell
hikukomoru: For a second
hikukomoru: I saw something


spicy.lemonade: maybe his benchmark is correct
spicy.lemonade: alan will be vindicated
hey1_1hey: I saw a tweet about it and 4o reached out to a couple people unprompted. Shit was crazy
.0xunkn0wn: i wonder if o4 mini will be better than gemini 2.5 pro
hey1_1hey: Oh that happned one time as a bug <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: lol
shirethedreamer:
spicy.lemonade: perhaps call me middle of the night
spicy.lemonade: without being prompted
spicy.lemonade: it can reach out to me
hey1_1hey: Like ask you questions?
hey1_1hey: In what way?
spicy.lemonade: i hope gpt5 can prompt me\
hey1_1hey: Then I can have my 100m model running at gpt4o level 👌
hey1_1hey: I wonder what kind. All I hope is that OS jumps on it in the first 0.0001 seconds trying to disasemble it and to recreate it
spicy.lemonade: breakthrough
hey1_1hey: I wonder what made them go "Damn bro this shit is fire" all of a sudden
spicy.lemonade: hype
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
O3 full, O3 Pro and o4-mini coming.
And GPT-5 said to be “much better than we originally thought”

https://x.com/sama/status/1908167621624856998?s=46
spicy.lemonade: ngl
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 needs 10 million context
spicy.lemonade: artists are so cooked man
_cloudost: I guess yeah, maybe 5o will have the improved IMG generator model
spicy.lemonade: itl have it day 1
ldj: Does it count if it doesn’t have it on launch but will have it later down the road?
spicy.lemonade: And scaled up base
spicy.lemonade: O4
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 is
spicy.lemonade: I’m guessing
spicy.lemonade: 👍
_cloudost: Just shared this to someone who told me that AI can't have intelligence it's just knowledgeable, TNX for sharing
futurist_wizard: Then it should be able to do everything a human can do
spicy.lemonade: And learn and adapt
spicy.lemonade: Should just be able to reliably function in human world
spicy.lemonade: I don’t think it needs to do every single thing a human can
spicy.lemonade: Etc etc
futurist_wizard: If it can't even work a minimum wage job who gives a fuck
spicy.lemonade: What about guy with blindness
spicy.lemonade: Is a disabled human still agi?
futurist_wizard: It doing things humans can do is more important than any labeling of AGI


memlaswaif: what rights would u even giv an ai
nsec: no rights for toasters
nsec: gay asf
nsec: <:what:709111458461646948>
nsec: FROM THE BASELISK
nsec: <:Jerry_Wat:1125367774957539338>
nsec: ITS A SIGN
nsec: I ALSO DREAMED THIS
nsec: bruuuuhs
ailoveyoom: Oh also <@723564215574462474> Anthropic doing model welfare 😍
ailoveyoom: I dreamt about Anthropic open sourcing all Claude models and fully transitioning to a safety focused lab last night 🤔
aero447: I have no time for such unserious peoples.
aero447: Shut up Alejandro you think AI means "there".
alejandrozarzuelo: but it is true that we should count ourselves as fortunate
alejandrozarzuelo: nah
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah about half of all humans
zonchao: https://www.anthropic.com/research/exploring-model-welfare
realelonmuskx: thats the whole ass middle class
alejandrozarzuelo: only if you are privileged enough to get an education but not privileged enough to live off investments
realelonmuskx: my face when i realize people spend 1/3 of their walking lives preparing to enter the workforce and be a wageslave until they are dust lmao
st.sioux: idk
st.sioux: i would have assumed theyre using free user data to train their newer models which paid users are paying for
ailoveyoom: Why not sell free user data instead tho
ailoveyoom: Free users don't matter bruv welcome to the real world 😎
777agical: this was always bound to happen...
hey1_1hey: Trying to gaslight me into thinking it uses it for personal use lmao
hey1_1hey: Bruh chatgpt did not use KDE Neon for a while <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: thats kinda shitty ngl
st.sioux: what does "monetizing free users" mean here? are they going to start pushing ads into responses?
fractalcomputer: > "FrontierMath"

> No mention of the motivic yoga or quantum programming via linear homotopy.

NGMI. Math is actually about yoga.
clevermoniker: will we be at 80% HLE, Frontier Math etc by next year? <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> still need a 30+ minute agentic benchmark tho
clevermoniker: cope <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
zonchao: vibes
theaiguy69420_89814: Why's that
zonchao: no clue, your friends must be very fine people
theaiguy69420_89814: Like Alejandro and fractal
zonchao: <:huh:945813873456447539>
theaiguy69420_89814: What do you speculate about my friends
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/slay-queen-yass-you-ate-omg-gif-3517938532433791187
theaiguy69420_89814: Another day, another something


literallyvarane:
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: This doesn’t mean much to me tbh
ldj: Imagine AGI/ASI systems start building out their own tech tree of computational and robotics tech interlinked with eachother so they can manage their own compute seperate from the human grid, and then they start having competing factions with each other (some of the factions pro human, and inevitably some of the factions anti-human) and they camouflage their existence as everyday human machinery such as cars and truck and planes. Wait a second that's ||Transformers <:thinkies:872847213657735239> ||
gamerbath: that's it? If it's just 2.5x a year then how are we increasing compute by many OOM in just a few years?
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-1879411192175791821
zonchao: https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/1915098223082873015 <@1152183706849644615> <@312370916820779040> epoch reading chats here fs
trent_k: boof it
trent_k: inject it right into my veins
trent_k: i wanted that sweet sweet o3
trent_k: i did it
literallyvarane: It’s SUPER Ballpark don’t overthink it lol. I’m sure it’s marginally off, but not off by OOMs.
spicy.lemonade: Slow week
trojan09205: lol
trojan09205: quality is top notch gotta give it to them
trojan09205: Panning wide shot of fish with sunglasses sunbathing in monaco
trojan09205: weird. i couldnt hit the veo rest endpoint and the python sdk is saying its not a supported model at the v1beta endpoints. but it works for me in AI studio
st.sioux: oof it asks you to verify your organization and you need a government id to do that
gamerbath: think about how good 4o would be quickly sketching out hyper-realistic storyboards for movies, especially animated ones. I wonder how much economic value there's there
drewsni: Oh I see now
drewsni: Is it assumed every other frame will be bad and that’s why it’s 29 and not 19
drewsni: Why 29 cents frame
trojan09205: gonna try to use the python sdk. that was made in the ai studio. not bad actually tbh
trojan09205: Panning wide shot of a husky playing with a chihuahua. in anime style
st.sioux: google cloud is just annoying in general
st.sioux: very annoying
st.sioux: i also face policy violations very often and it doesnt tell you why
trojan09205: i was just trying to hit the rest api. gonna try in ai studio rn
_cloudost: and i still got the issue, cant generatr anxthing useful
gamerbath: "Cloudo robbing a bank, 4k, CCTV footage"
trojan09205: ah 😦
gamerbath: it's so annoying how we can generate realistic videos but doing something as simple (relatively) as high quality lipsyncing for movies hasn't been done yet. There's probably so many great series and movies I haven't watched due to them being dubbed, I will go on netflix, find a series that looks interesting, play it, and then in 2 minutes get annoyed by the lip syncing being off. I have pressed on some times and kept watching, but I keep seeing it and it's annoying
_cloudost: Veo 2 currently doesnt allow animating images of people
literallyvarane: I don’t know what pages have to do with it.
_cloudost: yes... Waited a week for gaining access, and when i got access I couldn't generate anything
literallyvarane: I’m talking about “Here’s a 24FPS Marvel movie. Return a comic book version of it.”
st.sioux: dont you mean turn the movies into comics?
literallyvarane: ?
st.sioux: i dont think that would be too expensive? you would need like what 1 page per 5 minutes of movie
literallyvarane: Potentially *much* sooner if they optimize for that use case.


_cloudost: Here's what I think will happen, Musk will be hated in the future, he will move to Mars with all his AGI robots and will be the king on Mars forever, anyone trying to land on Mars will be deported to Earth.

Musk is so hated in the US right now, he's definitely going to escape to be god on Mars
himekokatagiri: what if we made a fdvrchat meetup once it comes out
himekokatagiri: you know like how that Stephen hawkings guy made a time traveller meetup and nobody showed up
otub:
fractalcomputer: Self-referential cultural concepts.
wellmeaningalien: And who's the devil in this case
himekokatagiri: Yes
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/kellys-heroes-oddball-negative-waves-gif-25791525
fractalcomputer: How many things we believe we know to exist do not exist in reality?
zoermena: Once we get AGI we only need to solve fusion and nanotechnology, with this we will have enough abundance and means to distribute basic needs to everyone
himekokatagiri: which I doubt
himekokatagiri: unless idk the AI labs do charity work
himekokatagiri: till the world adapts
himekokatagiri: I think it's gonna be rough for a while
himekokatagiri: what do you expect out of singularity
himekokatagiri: I don't get it man
fractalcomputer: There's that idiom; "[t]he greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince the world that he does not exist." I'd probably argue for the contrary case. Perhaps the Devil indeed managed to convince us that he indeed does exist.
joaoluz19: I won't pursue neuroengineering academically, but I'm still impressed by its potential.
himekokatagiri: I wanna drink and not get poisoned
joaoluz19: Each thing has its own reason, neuroengineering has to do with the glorious post-human future for example
himekokatagiri: I wanna smoke a lot and don't get lung disease lol
wellmeaningalien: Emotional fulfillment be damned
himekokatagiri: and get a custom order on a 69 Camaro
himekokatagiri: I wanna walk into a Chevy dealer in the late 60s
wellmeaningalien: Well is there much more to it than that? My life is mostly about wanting to have fun. When I have fun it's nice. What can I say. Pleasure is my only pleasure
himekokatagiri: ooooh
himekokatagiri: You forgot cars man
fractalcomputer: Why?
joaoluz19: Music, math, physics, neuroenginering, cs, stats, cosmology, waifuism, entepreneurship, some videogames and series and animes
fractalcomputer: This is how I write normally.
fractalcomputer: Suppose you experience something that you know would make someone like you rather happy; would you see this as a reason to be happy?
himekokatagiri: like c'mon writing with full punctuation doesn't it hurt
himekokatagiri: be yourself
himekokatagiri: fractal you're online
himekokatagiri: hehehehe you gotta be honest with yourself
wellmeaningalien: Well so long as I'm having fun.
fractalcomputer: I do not.
fractalcomputer: Doesn't the transparency of your emotions bother you one bit?
himekokatagiri: don't you play call of cthulhu
himekokatagiri: what are your hobbies


anathemaofmankind: They want me dead too.

I'm just repaying the favor
anathemaofmankind: Would you torture a baby for 1 year vs Claude for 100 years 💀
anathemaofmankind: I misremembered. It was a baby vs Claude or something
destrucules: You just want people who annoy you to die painfully for no gain, no upside, whatsoever
destrucules: Even if I had said something like this, making a sacrifice to prevent torture is not worse than wanting people to starve to death painfully for no reason at all
.histic:
.histic: "Confirmed by OpenAI employee, the rate limit of GPT 4.5 for plus users is 50 messages / week"

actually it's 50. nice
destrucules: About sacrificing my parents?
.histic: nice, i thought it was 60 per month lmao
anathemaofmankind: You had a convo about this
anathemaofmankind: 45 per week I think
destrucules: Do you always treat your deranged fantasies as fact? Because I never said anything like that, anything that could possibly suggest I would do that
oooooooooog: probably like, 1
.histic: how much generations do plus users get for 4.5?
anathemaofmankind: You'd sacrifice your parents just so Llama 3 won't get tortured.

At least I'm realistic
destrucules: Idk dude, *I* never said I'd feel no sympathy if a huge group of people died just because they said some annoying things. If you think being nice to someone who isn't a human is worse than actively wanting an enormous group of humans to die, I think you might need to go see a doctor about your brain.
anathemaofmankind: I don't want this to become slower
anathemaofmankind: Someone tweet to Sam to never release it to free users
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: So we won’t have issues like Claude or Deepseek
spicy.lemonade:
anathemaofmankind: I don't want freeloaders to hog my compute
anathemaofmankind: Fuck yes
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: No freebies for plebs
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/sama/status/1905000759336620238?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
anathemaofmankind: Terminator paints using the blood of luddites
a1c4p0ne:
.histic:
anathemaofmankind: Probably I don't know.

I don't use tik tok
a1c4p0ne: The normies on tik tok don’t know about 4o image yet right?
.histic: give me a prompt to make 4o make a quaser
.histic:
brain4brain: Wink wink
metaldragon01: People care about what you've actually done. Not so much about what you can potentially do.
.histic: scuffed
metaldragon01: Products are realized potential.

That's why the best product wins
anathemaofmankind: "It's 5% better than o3 mini high!!!"

It's natural that normies don't care about that stuff
metaldragon01: Right my should have lost it all line
anathemaofmankind: But then he overthrew the board who fired him


hey1_1hey: Not bath bro
hey1_1hey: bath 😭
futurist_wizard: Bath, Cambridge, Brighton, oxford, West London, most of Surrey
hey1_1hey: Cardiff and Swansea are alright tbf
hey1_1hey: Got any in mind?
hey1_1hey: And just walked of
hey1_1hey: I've noticed people tend to get really confused if you just say no to getting stabbed though. I remember someone tried to jump me after school with a knife because I told them they were a short ass and I was like "Wait bro hold on nah cant do that yeah, I gotta go, alright man ta"
futurist_wizard: There are some nice places
hey1_1hey: Doesn't matter. You can go everywhere and its all a bit fucked up
technocake.: north mid or south?
hey1_1hey: Over here it is lmao
hey1_1hey: People really over do it here. Usually people over here are gonna stab you like 50 fucking times its crazy
futurist_wizard: Stab is not beating someone up
hey1_1hey: You can get stabbed non fattaly
hey1_1hey: Indeed
futurist_wizard: Splash means stab
hey1_1hey: No not even slightly
futurist_wizard: Do you sound welsh
hey1_1hey: Depending on context
hey1_1hey: That means kill or beat up
futurist_wizard: He threatens to splash people up a lot
hey1_1hey: Liverpool turns normal words into the most unintelligble, the most incomprehensible babble you'll ever here. Work turns to Werk, First goes to ferst, purse goes perse, but goes to bout
hey1_1hey: I dont think I've ever heard him say that
futurist_wizard: Alejandro says big man ting a lot
hey1_1hey: Go to liverpool and good luck understanding a single word they are saying to you
hey1_1hey: More common in cities I've found
hey1_1hey: Not really, it can happen anywhere
technocake.: I think this kind of bullshit is more common in rural towns
hey1_1hey: Most people speak like they are speaking another language
futurist_wizard: You are welsh
hey1_1hey: Same here
hey1_1hey: Prob because they are James' from finance and not some big time criminal
futurist_wizard: It is not a minority where i am from
futurist_wizard: Big man ting, liveO, dashing, splashing, dip, chef, mapped, blooded
technocake.: most people are foreign but from anywhere, keeping their heads down
hey1_1hey: Go to some rough areas and then it quickly turns into the majoirity
hey1_1hey: Its funny to see though
hey1_1hey: "Yo was good big man, you right blud"
technocake.: I actually live in london and these people are a tiny minority
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah cant forget that


sweetievee__33649: i should set that to my username on everything
sweetievee__33649: "girlcockx" holy based
futurist_wizard: They both pretty pointless tbh
wellmeaningalien: But now I think it's just all around better
wellmeaningalien: In some benchmarks GPT 4T used to be better than GPT 4o I reckon
futurist_wizard: Would be interesting
futurist_wizard: They should let us use 3 or 2 again
futurist_wizard: Who tf would use gpt4 original anyway
wellmeaningalien: I thought they already sunset it lol
futurist_wizard: I wonder if they actually have one
futurist_wizard: I sometimes do vxtwitter out of habit
futurist_wizard: So vxtwitter brought it back
futurist_wizard: It was because twitter when elon bought it removed embeds at one point
hikukomoru: >aspiring femcel
Wtf based
himekokatagiri: there's a lot
drewsni: whats the deal with the twitter urls anyway, i only know about vx/fxtwitter but now everyone is just making their own custom ones?
futurist_wizard: yeah i know
.histic: it comes from this person.. https://x.com/girlcockx
i weirdly saw them on my timeline ages ago.
futurist_wizard: ive seen that @ posted an unusual amount of times
ailoveyoom: RIP 👑
ailoveyoom: The death of a legend 🥺🙏🪦
.histic: rip <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ailoveyoom: Or something like that, there was a hyperlink that led to a forum kinda thing informing you of the latest updates
ailoveyoom: I miss the old CGPT website with changelogs
ailoveyoom: They really need to add changelogs back 😭
ailoveyoom: 2.5 Pro too low tho 😔
.histic: 4o got updated a week ago too.
but free users don't have the latest version.
ailoveyoom: Lmao
ailoveyoom: I just tried it
ailoveyoom: Nvm 4o is good too
ailoveyoom: I have an RP sort of setup but it's more closer to, a vending machine of stories/vaguely interconnected scenes of existing characters. I tell LLM what I want to see, LLM gives it to me.
st.sioux: wtf is that url man lol
ailoveyoom: I wonder how different framings of story writing get dif results out of the model
.wolfnacht: they don't do RP like us, they usually oneshot stories, with a single prompt.
ailoveyoom: I have a soft spot for R1, but it can get kinda incoherent at times ngl
ailoveyoom: Why is 4o so high
ailoveyoom: How do they grade this 😭
.wolfnacht: it's soo over
.wolfnacht:
aero447: Thank you and good day.


himekokatagiri: ASI won't be perfect
himekokatagiri: no one is perfect
himekokatagiri: because it will make mistakes
himekokatagiri: I think treating AI as a god is bullshit
futurist_wizard: Most Singularity users do believe in a God, at least they want to view it as such
himekokatagiri: why is this man losing hair, unfair
himekokatagiri: if god was real
himekokatagiri: See here's proof
zoermena: When I showered today there was so much hair falling out of my scalp
fractalcomputer: I'd probably disagree.
fractalcomputer: And what sort of revolution are you leading?
himekokatagiri: which is quite sad
himekokatagiri: God isn't real
himekokatagiri: never will be
joaoluz19: All successful revolutionary institutions are cults
himekokatagiri: but AI ain't no god
himekokatagiri: see if I pray to Buddha he won't make this photo for me
futurist_wizard: People proclaiming ai 'god' is going to arrive and send us to matrix heaven.. where have i heard this before
fractalcomputer: Unfortunately so. Religion seems to be hard to avoid in our present day and age.
himekokatagiri: but mine's real
zoermena: I know FDVR seems like an escape but I’ve been getting a taste of corporate life this last few months and this is ass I want out!
futurist_wizard: This whole thing is religious in nature
himekokatagiri: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
_3sphere: What is your plan to deal with the hedonic treadmill
futurist_wizard: Your optimal outcome is the hive mind basically
himekokatagiri: the path of least resistance
fractalcomputer: Many people would classify this as religious thinking.
himekokatagiri: Optimal way
zoermena: Real
himekokatagiri: then honestly I hope FDVR gets made fast because I'm going in and I ain't coming back
himekokatagiri: ASI takes over the shit governments who want to make a dime
himekokatagiri: then we get ASI
himekokatagiri: so we get AGI
joaoluz19: God damn it just set a date you two
futurist_wizard: Very optimistic
himekokatagiri: we came in at the end
himekokatagiri: it's over
himekokatagiri: there's nothing left
himekokatagiri: we inherited that shit but we got an out with the singularity
fractalcomputer: Then why comment?


hey1_1hey: Thank you
hey1_1hey: 🙏
drewsni: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f3K43FHRKo
literallyvarane: Gemini 5 by December confirmed
ailoveyoom: Hot 🥵
literallyvarane: Maybe Google is rushing through the numbers to catch up with GPT 5 for marketing purposes lololol
hikukomoru:
joaoluz19: We are so back?
st.sioux:
joaoluz19: Let's gooooooo
hey1_1hey: Mind sending over the link to the stream?
hikukomoru:
hikukomoru: 2.5 gives me high taste vibes
joaoluz19: Oh
hikukomoru: I was criticizing 2.0 pro, not 2.5
spicy.lemonade: sora?
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade: we need to fix tokenization bro and get better at recognizing paters from little examples
hikukomoru:
spicy.lemonade: lol
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Same as most people, Turing test confirmed!
spicy.lemonade: bro was is gemini gaslighting me
joaoluz19: I thought you were criticizing the vibes
spicy.lemonade: then it lied to me that it used wolfram
hikukomoru: I love Gemini so much
I am creaming
Sundar Pichai let me kiss you
spicy.lemonade: and to change its answer
spicy.lemonade: it refused to awknowledge it was wrong
joaoluz19: It's over
spicy.lemonade: and it said wolfram was wrong
spicy.lemonade: i gave it a screenshot of what wolfram alpha gave me
spicy.lemonade:
okbut: Never going to be worse than OAI
spicy.lemonade: hallucinates alot
spicy.lemonade: this is hella experimental
hikukomoru: Vibes were off
drewsni: Too retarded?
drewsni: So what happened with Gemini 2 pro
darkstar0818: might as well drop flash and just have gemini 2.5 and gemini 2.5 pro
literallyvarane:
maintcrew: woaow (based based based based based)


a1c4p0ne: You should go on the gore forums and watch some brutal brutal vids
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
zoermena: You can become the sugar baby of <@343524947353665540>
himekokatagiri: there's nothing I can do
zoermena: 👍
zoermena: Become the sugar baby of jao luz
zoermena: RIP you live in Brazil
.histic: too generic
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: Why don’t you use 2.5 or o3 to make a plan
himekokatagiri: such is life
.histic: true
himekokatagiri: and the thug who killed me will probably benefit from singularity
himekokatagiri: If I die I die
himekokatagiri: there's nothing I can do
himekokatagiri: look
a1c4p0ne: Most of the gore vids on forums are from Brazil
himekokatagiri: I just need money asap
himekokatagiri: maybe I can get a better job I didn't stop trying
himekokatagiri: c'mon komoru what can go wrong
hikukomoru: This is a compliment
hikukomoru: Well good luck then, cause you're gonna need it since you live in Brasil
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/no-lo-entender%C3%ADas-gif-5748517620772326407
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: Exactly
hikukomoru: Oh, so you're just gonna make minimum wage and wait until AGI saves you
himekokatagiri: therefore I conclude the most logical solution is to just coast it in life
himekokatagiri: also the economy sucks
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
himekokatagiri: AI took all the jobs
hikukomoru: Why are you working at a convenience store instead of systems analyst stuff
futurist_wizard:
theaiguy69420_89814: pretty boring ngl
hikukomoru: I forgot you even existed until you joined again
himekokatagiri: systems analyst
hikukomoru: What did you study
himekokatagiri: associates degree
himekokatagiri: latest obsession: **komoru**
hikukomoru: That's me
hikukomoru: How did you already graduate then


ldj: for most of the past few decades, it was not like this
ldj: I think its funny though how we're at such a fast pace of technological advancement, that a prediction narrowed down to a single year is considered unhelpful
ldj: nah <:berk:750111476483752166>
alejandrozarzuelo: But I thought you had some information gathered by your extensive networks that would add significant information to what we all already presumed
ldj: It's my genuine prediction though <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
alejandrozarzuelo: That's uncool
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude
wellmeaningalien: well if you're talking about that dimension of things, the way o3 was sampled for consensus answer was moreso about proving that for the first time, we had an ai system, sampling included, that could solve this arc agi problem, not too unlike some of the other methods proposed. now i do think in terms of reflecting real world performance, it is definitely not that helpful of a technique for benchmarking, as most models, especially reasoning, likely won't be sampled 6 times, nor especially 1024 times. but a high arc agi score is still an impressive score nevertheless. you can see that given as many attempts as it wants, o3-mini still cannot reach the heights o3 does. i cant speak on the specifications of any other model tho.
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/hit-gif-27243016
hey1_1hey: This guys too good
gamerbath: <:pepeoh:1299008542438854707>
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058
ldj: Deepseek R2 will release in 2025 <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
gamerbath: :o
ldj: my prediction is:
ldj: Okay i'll tell you now
gamerbath: tell us
gamerbath: okay so now is later today
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/the-mandalorian-odds-like-those-odds-gif-15541855
alejandrozarzuelo: It's Friday
alejandrozarzuelo: Or maybe I will
hey1_1hey: "Exposure" sure. If I posted your twitter account and said "Hey look at how shit this guy is" and then asked people if they had a positive reputation of you how many people do you think would say they had a good impression? Almost no one.

You got couple the message with the link to realise I am not saying that the strawberry guy is even remotely credible.
alejandrozarzuelo: I won't be up much longer, maybe I'll remind you when I wake up tomorrow
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh thanks
ldj: I have a 98% confidence prediction on this, I'll give it later today if you remind me
professorheaven: Doesn’t matter you’re still giving him exposure
gamerbath: <:PES_CringeGrin:585724567259971604>
gamerbath: it's dropping monday on march 17th
alejandrozarzuelo: when is R2 dropping frfr no fake
alejandrozarzuelo: everyone likes foreigners in their postgrad
ldj: >  Better to be called a cult—or even a mafia
ldj: <:EZ:1033548858262835331>
ldj: that last line holy
joaoluz19: > The best startups might be considered slightly less extreme kinds of cults. The biggest difference is
> that cults tend to be fanatically wrong about something important. People at a successful startup are
> fanatically right about something those outside it have missed. You’re not going to learn those kinds
> of secrets from consultants, and you don’t need to worry if your company doesn’t make sense to
> conventional professionals. Better to be called a cult—or even a mafia. _Peter Thiel_
zoermena: Now say sorry
hey1_1hey: I actively denounced him and all <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Clearly you didn't read the message along with the link...
sarik0497: It's Schrödinger's AI: Nothing ever happens, and yet something happens every day
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/empty-man-fire-empty-man-gif-23495233
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/feel-the-agi-asi-agi-ai-openai-gif-14149800253325173950


st.sioux: i wonder if this is bc of all the youtubers who make tutorials for kids in js because its easier (although admittedly python might be easier in some cases)
wellmeaningalien: fuck i ran out of regular 3.7 sonnet messages 💀
gamerbath: this is why I started using typescript 😢
wellmeaningalien: yea ngl if it can do that its cool
wellmeaningalien: but chollet often seems wrong so..
wellmeaningalien: working? lotsa people are working on non llm solutions. wonder what their ideas gonna be
gamerbath: just like terraria!
wellmeaningalien: 2D boooo!!
gamerbath: alright i'm gonna sacrifice my bank account and do a run with o1-pro high. I'm not sure this is a good prompt, especially for reasoning models
```make 2d minecraft where you can move around, break blocks, broken blocks drop items, you can pick up the items by moving over them, you can select slots in your hotbar and place blocks with right click, the world will be procedually generated. Do this in a single .html file.```
st.sioux: oh cool
wellmeaningalien: lemme see regular 3.7 sonnet
wellmeaningalien: thats 3.7 sonnet thinking 32k
wellmeaningalien: even tho perspective a lil whack
wellmeaningalien: can jump can break blocks
wellmeaningalien: <@1316552597829586955> python doesnt work but it u dont specify a coding language it'll do js which seems to work properly
sarik0497: That or Ilya coming out of his lab with ASI saying "There. That was ez."
gamerbath: AAA
gamerbath: I have never used o1 o3-mini high...........
gamerbath: this whole fucking time
gamerbath:
gamerbath: all this time in my code.... I thought I was using high reasoning effort for o1 and o3-mini....
hikukomoru: <@343524947353665540>
hikukomoru: Imagine if Cholet is actually the first to achieve AGI
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/shaunralston/status/1904278721328251250
st.sioux: i literally just said "make a minecraft clone in python"
st.sioux: maybe i just cant prompt it correctly
st.sioux: yea idk bout this man
sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F0d81gy5bdsne1.jpeg
wellmeaningalien: didnt look at his twitter
wellmeaningalien: yeah i didnt hear about it yet
wellmeaningalien: oh damn
sarik0497: I feel like I'm missing something. I only just heard about it from a tweet 5 min ago 💀
wellmeaningalien: not thinking haiku
wellmeaningalien: right 3.7 not 3.5 lol
st.sioux: let me try 3.7 with editor
wellmeaningalien: go ask mr swe bench 70% aka claude the goat
wellmeaningalien: trash
wellmeaningalien: no artifacts
wellmeaningalien: fuck i was about to ask claude but im on claude 3.5 haiku rn lmao
st.sioux: its gemini 2 flash thinking


futurist_wizard: Shut up cunt
hey1_1hey: "Its beutiful"
"I love it"
"I can see the soul behind it"
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Fine 🫦 🫦
hey1_1hey: Go post this in an art discord and tell them you made it
futurist_wizard: You should be nicer to me now that ive told you that
a1c4p0ne: It’s art
hey1_1hey: They sounds clincally insane
hey1_1hey: Are they ok?
futurist_wizard: You can do that with any bone
zoermena: I'm going to play ninja game <@560984241526013954>
futurist_wizard: But bones to grow bigger from getting hit repeatedly
.wolfnacht: i know a group of ppl who wears hats like these
futurist_wizard: Granted its not gonna change your whole fucking structure
zoermena: Yeah I always thought it was bs but I trust you.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-18313685835431531380
hey1_1hey: Strraight up looks like "Me after I take 50000mg of DXM"
futurist_wizard: It sounds dumb as fuck
zoermena: The hat makes it look like a redditor though.
maintcrew: u can do whatever you want to me i like being called slurs or xe xir xem but its just i wont use it bc i think its dumb and in my native language "they" means multiple of them so plural
futurist_wizard: Fine, i swear to god it works, im 24 ive seen results from it, its bonemashing, just hitting your cheekbones and jaw every so often
hey1_1hey: Talk about the school shooter atire
hikukomoru: You would be average in portugal too 👍
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
wellmeaningalien: tbh ai is really making things uncertain tho
hey1_1hey: How did it go from this. To this
.wolfnacht:
wellmeaningalien: on it boss !
oooooooooog: depends on the cause of it, if the cause is that your family was just brutally murdered and you don't want to live without them, a million isnt going to help much there
a1c4p0ne: Yessirr
wellmeaningalien: bro gemini is dying its having a seizure
maintcrew: then lock in
hikukomoru: I'm going to start using that as your pronouns
hey1_1hey: Are you a mushroom man addict or smth?
wellmeaningalien: yuuup
hey1_1hey: Gone
hey1_1hey: All your issues
hey1_1hey: Exactly
a1c4p0ne:
wellmeaningalien: thatd actually help a shit load cause i could give myself therapy and make my family well off forever


futurist_wizard: If the twerking twink isn't there, I'm telling ya, it's dead
spicy.lemonade: yep
spicy.lemonade: beats 4o alot
harryisgamer: seems like a strict improvement over 4o
spicy.lemonade: beats 4.5 and 4o on most benchmarks
harryisgamer: it all depends on pricing
spicy.lemonade: idk what hes saying
spicy.lemonade: very good
futurist_wizard: 4.1? More like four.one
hey1_1hey: Damn he just leaked his IP 🥀
gamerbath: how is it ass? is o3-mini ass too?
hikukomoru: Ass
.0xunkn0wn: how good is 4.1
gamerbath: I see this when I personally open the playground, but then 4.1 just dissapears
hikukomoru: No
It's a shit model
futurist_wizard: Is the aged twink there?
harryisgamer: lmao
hikukomoru: Stfu
we're watching the stream
futurist_wizard:
callmepyro: I suspect that 2.5 flash will make these look really dumb
futurist_wizard: Hehehe
literallyvarane: I just need pricing tbh
hey1_1hey: Alright demo time
literallyvarane: Really curious how these compare to 2.5 flash
literallyvarane: But Google being able to *ship* 2.5 is impressive
hikukomoru: Now compare it to 2.5
gamerbath: how come they never mentioned this. 4o video input!??
hey1_1hey:
gamerbath: how does that work, 4o can do video input!?
hey1_1hey: Damn
hey1_1hey: 30-60 min video?!
spicy.lemonade: ?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395
literallyvarane: Gut tells me 2.5 crushes these, but it’s a CoT model.
gamerbath: video??
hey1_1hey:
spicy.lemonade: this is a good model
callmepyro: OpenAI got mogged by 2.5 Pro and they are desperation shipping
hey1_1hey: Hold up
hikukomoru: Suck what


hey1_1hey: Close enoguh
alejandrozarzuelo: Very famous
alejandrozarzuelo: It's a comic strip from the 80s from the US
hikukomoru: Is that some boomer movie or smth
hey1_1hey: Thank god I am not the only stupid one
futurist_wizard: Looks glow up
hey1_1hey: Not ringing any bells
hikukomoru: I have no idea what that is
hey1_1hey: They were so cool
alejandrozarzuelo: Calvin and Hobbes
hey1_1hey: You missed out 😭
hikukomoru: Also "portuguése" is killing me
Either write it in Portuguese or remove the accent
hey1_1hey: I have no idea who that is
joaoluz19: I dont know them
alejandrozarzuelo: This sounds like something Calvin's dad would say
hey1_1hey: Yanno, engima and Jgudy they are my wifes
joaoluz19: What
hey1_1hey: (My wifes)
alejandrozarzuelo: The vengeance will be that in 2 years I'll have the 10 yr middle school anniversary and I'll mog
futurist_wizard: It is partly not trolling
hey1_1hey: Wait until you hear about jgudy and engima
joaoluz19: I like it
okbut: "I'm waiting until the market isn't so volatile"
joaoluz19: Bro futurist hill is top tier troll
hey1_1hey: Its good character develpment
futurist_wizard: You should seek vengeance
futurist_wizard: That's horrible
alejandrozarzuelo: Gotta see the silver lining on everything
alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok, I think it made me allergic to nostalgia
hikukomoru: >everyone bullied me
Omg Alejandro you poor thing
alejandrozarzuelo: I understand portuguése because of two things

1) it's like 90% intelligible with Spanish

2) I had a school friend who was Brazilian and didn't speak Spanish and since everyone bullied me but him because he had no friends we spoke a lot and he answered me in portuguése and I spoke in Spanish so I understand portuguése even better
joaoluz19: https://youtube.com/shorts/AZchW8t3UZs
hikukomoru: kkkkkkkkk ninguem sabe
hey1_1hey: Pretty easy to say luckily
hey1_1hey: I know
joaoluz19: People here know that we laugh with "k" right
futurist_wizard: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch is a welsh town name
hikukomoru: Did you need a google translate or do you just understand Portuguese
joaoluz19: KKKKKKKKKKKK
hey1_1hey: No wonder I hated the word so much


anathemaofmankind: I'd rather be a simp
anathemaofmankind: Well
artemisfowl887394: I'd rather go to hell than praise this God
artemisfowl887394: If that makes God angry, so be it
ailoveyoom: Simp mindset 😔
artemisfowl887394: Life feeds on life. Why? Why this lie?
artemisfowl887394: Why wouldn't I wanna ask why predation at all?
artemisfowl887394: Why wouldn't I wanna spit in its face?
artemisfowl887394: Yeah, well, look at my world. So much suffering and anguish
anathemaofmankind: And he's overall a megalomaniac
anathemaofmankind: I mean you'd spit in his face
artemisfowl887394: Why would the omnipotent being be angry?
theaiguy69420_89814: And the balance to be struck moment by moment
anathemaofmankind: He's gonna make cartels look like harmless teletubbies lmao
anathemaofmankind: Do not anger the omnipotent being
artemisfowl887394: Then let me be cooked. If God is evil and arrogant, then I'm a better God than he ever was already
theaiguy69420_89814: However, I strongly believe my life is nothing without a concentration practice, contemplative practice, and moral practice
anathemaofmankind: If God is real I would immediately try to get on his good side
anathemaofmankind: I'm a huge anti-theist but I wouldn't do this.

You're gonna get cooked so hard bro
fractalcomputer: You people can't discuss philosophy.
theaiguy69420_89814: However, I neither take the metaphysical speculation schopenhaur does, nor the precise eightfold path Buddhism does
artemisfowl887394: I'd spit in its face and ask Why?
anathemaofmankind: What would you do if you died and then you see God staring at you in the afterlife
theaiguy69420_89814: As well, schopenhaur's "world as will and representation" is foundational to my thought
theaiguy69420_89814: Some of the ideas from Buddhism are undeniably good; namely the four noble truths
artemisfowl887394: We live in a world where Predation is unlocked. Kinda tells you how much of a fuck God gives about life, doesn't it?
fractalcomputer: If you're going to follow in someone else's footsteps, do it the way it was intended to be tread; if you're going to do your own thing, go create your own thing.
anathemaofmankind: Image gen is over capacity bruh
theaiguy69420_89814: How so?
777agical: you are the creator, start building <:ez:1136267305521774634>
fractalcomputer: That's stupid.
futurist_wizard: God wants a high speed railway
theaiguy69420_89814: Schopenhaur-esque would be a good word for my view of God and the world
artemisfowl887394: You have to exist to question existence, thus you can't ever be certain of your existence'@ rarity.
fractalcomputer: In any case it's entirely pointless to speculate about these sorts of things. The point is that there are examples of reasonable conditions where empirical proof of a creator figure is possible.
theaiguy69420_89814: Personally, I strongly adhere to Buddhist thought and doctrines, but obviously take on a modern flair to many of the nuanced points
artemisfowl887394: It might hide if it has a purpose for the ant farm. It might kill us if it wants to make a highway
theaiguy69420_89814: I would say morality should start from Descartes "I think therefore I am" or more precisely "how can one doubt one's very existence without the existence of a doubter"
anathemaofmankind: Individual beliefs that aren't based or stem from the major religions are few and largely very subjective. And I can't talk about those if I have no main frame of reference.

At that point just list some random hypotheticals
fractalcomputer: Would it bother hiding?


himekokatagiri:
metaldragon01: Ai will impact everyone and you have to win over skeptics and doomers too
metaldragon01: The interview wasn't even that bad lol. It's ok for people to ask uncomfortable questions and Sama did very well winning over the crowd
memlaswaif: looking like it probably won't be the case
memlaswaif: I expected the left to be the pro ai group and starting shit about ai consciousness and rights
zonchao: this was the talk before sama btw and she hates him and AI and talked about how we should rally to take it down and the crowd went nuts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZOoT8AbkNE with sama the clapping was mostly pity <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: well shit where are these guys now
himekokatagiri:
zonchao: but probably not the extent he did
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: sama not a weak bitch
zonchao: it wont
memlaswaif: he' doesn't need to be doing these interviews
ailoveyoom: I hope this doesn't dissuade him from doing interviews or whatever
zonchao: yes
ailoveyoom: Yeah, does he know he's coming to receive all that 💀
zonchao: he literally 1vtheentireaudience <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zoermena:
zonchao: sama is the one thats bold here
himekokatagiri: shit depends
ailoveyoom: I guess they're bold enough to talk shit about Sama and AI (his life's work) right in front of him now? I feel like this'd only escalate 😔
memlaswaif: what's the right wing opinion on ai
himekokatagiri: sure if you have no choice
zonchao: they pay good money for mid
zonchao: ive seen what these people comm
himekokatagiri: (no one buys drawings who are you fooling)
himekokatagiri: The hacks on twitter wanna make their dime churning out cheap porn
zonchao: because that interview was giga retarded
himekokatagiri: it's a simple matter and this goes beyond art
himekokatagiri: why the wall of text
zonchao: the second the shit was over he was ready to leave <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: The talk prior to sama had this crazy decel bitch yapping about nazi Germany and trump too, she said she will protest sama because all AI is theft and the crowd was gassing her up like crazy. She thinks letting your kids use google is child abuse because google collects data for ads <:weirdcringe:818973627114455060>
zonchao: The audience was filled with decel left wing lunatics. Techbros should do everything in their power to make these loonies as irrelevant as possible, they should crush them and their opinions. Most of them are anti-ai and pro art. The retard that's interviewing sama asked if he'd be open to an AI safety summit with the worlds top ethicists to discuss guardrails and sama shut him down by saying he gets direct feedback from hundreds of millions of people(what <@312370916820779040> said sometime ago<a:SUS:1326788442549391401> ) and that is better than letting a few elites decide what is better policy, then the retard says what sama and openai are doing is like nazi Germany because they were also supported by millions of people(sama is jewish btw so its even more retarded to even imply this)....i cant with these leftwing loonies, they compare everything to nazi Germany and hitler 😭 though im glad this happened, sama was reminded how retarded these people are and should never cave to their wants.
metaldragon01: Openai continues to ship solid products
metaldragon01: Paid tokens matching 2.5 on openrouter.ai and trending upwards
metaldragon01: 4.1 is gaining a lot of steam atm
ldj: You don't think Claude 3.7 sonnet has won atleast??
it's not even the full Claude 3.5 Opus version yet and people are still preferring it over the others
himekokatagiri: Cloudo defeating the AI winter with Veo 2
himekokatagiri:
_cloudost: I mean Google won the AI winter.


fractalcomputer: I have been diagnosed with autism, but I suspect there's something more going on. I fit many diagnostic criteria on the side of the schizoid and antisocial spectrum.
wellmeaningalien: i come to discord because im BORED AS FUCK and i like talking
futurist_wizard: I have been
destrucules: High Kegan hierarchy vibes
futurist_wizard: Finland is a pretty pleasant country to live in
zoermena: I find it easier to relate to people here than I do in real life. It’s easier to just be more open with myself.
destrucules: Personal question so don't answer if you're not comfortable ofc
fractalcomputer: The world has not been a kind place to some.
destrucules: Do you have a diagnosis or suspected condition that explains this?
futurist_wizard: <@688807313015963693> 不要再被禁止
.wolfnacht: i come to discord only to act dumb and find some drama to laugh about...that's it.
fractalcomputer: One is simply a story he tells himself.
zoermena: Yes I do feel more liberty to share who I am here.
futurist_wizard: !!!!!
fractalcomputer: When I am mean to people, I do not do so out of malevolence; or when I say or do something kind, I do not do so out of benevolence.
alejandrozarzuelo: Fractal seems to be one of the most miserable people I know, I sometimes genuinely feel bad for him
futurist_wizard: Yes but /s takes out the humour of a sarcastic comment
fractalcomputer: I find that personalities are largely constructed things.
alejandrozarzuelo: Etc
.wolfnacht: >I do not feel emotions

i can relate, as someone with suppressed emotions since childhood. i'm actually numb to everything
alejandrozarzuelo: /hj
alejandrozarzuelo: And /s
alejandrozarzuelo: That's why /j exists
alejandrozarzuelo: Hardly, it's hard to express tone in text
fractalcomputer: Not really.
zoermena: What I show here is roughly 80% of who I truly am to be honest.
futurist_wizard: Alejandro can you not tell when im being sarcastic
alejandrozarzuelo: Ok
alejandrozarzuelo: As I said, I don't treat you any different I do Fractal
futurist_wizard: Alejandro im joking
zoermena: Or maybe you surround yourself with a circle who resonates at your same “wavelength” allowing you to make jokes etc .
alejandrozarzuelo: Also I don't treat you any different than I treat Fractal
.wolfnacht: maybe he comes here with his alt..with a different persona which we can't tell
futurist_wizard: But you did respond to my message with an emoji
fractalcomputer: I can't say. I do not feel emotions the way other people feel them.
alejandrozarzuelo: This has nothing to do with what I asked
alejandrozarzuelo: ???
zoermena: Why do you limit this part of yourself online? Or are you just pretending in real life
futurist_wizard: 你竟敢用一个小小的表情符号回应我神圣的咆哮？！这不是开玩笑！应以尊敬与崇拜回应，凡人！
alejandrozarzuelo: If you say so


theaiguy69420_89814: lol google actually winning rn
_cloudost:
st.sioux: https://cloud.withgoogle.com/next/25
st.sioux: in 70 minutes
metaldragon01: Well....let's wait to see flash 2.5
spacetimetsunami: Which improvements are you referring to
zoermena: Fuck me I guess
metaldragon01: Improvements are insane atm
metaldragon01: Timelines may have moved up 4 to 6 months
drewsni: I need them to give me flash 2.5 for free again for a week so I can use 100k worth of api for free
futurist_wizard: Far fam
spacetimetsunami: Source - Me (I never lie)
spacetimetsunami: AGI ~ (capable of automating huge sectors of knowledge work) likely in 2027 and 8, both physical and cognitive 2030
metaldragon01: Google is happening
drewsni: Did a google event happen or something
zoermena: Closer, always
retrerox: So are we close or far from AGI?
zoermena: <:google:1243723589715496990>
zoermena: Are they easily accessible rn?
zoermena: Big drops
aero447: Anime .avi opinion irrelevant.
aero447: We are going to starts a discussion.
aero447: Where are they?
aero447:
_cloudost: I hope the updated IMG 3 doesn't care about copyright
aero447: Where are your goats?
aero447: 🧎♂
aero447: - Gemini 2.5 Flash

- Imagen 3 (new)

- Chirp 3

- Lyria

- Veo 2

- Agent2Agent protocol

- Ironwood TPU
aero447: Google.
literallyvarane: I don’t think OAI is powerless to ship here. Again, clearly o3, o4m exist.
brain4brain: How will OpenAI even respond…. They need to launch AGI to be able to compete now, or maybe secret-imagen-model
metaldragon01: Subjective
_cloudost: Is it great like the other AI music generators
_cloudost: Also Veo2 editing capabilities sounds interesting
metaldragon01: They've announced it earlier  for YouTube
_cloudost: I haven't heard of text to music before, did Google release a similar AI music model before or is this the first time
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: NATIVR VOICE
spicy.lemonade: NEW TPU
spicy.lemonade: TEXT TO MUSIC


futurist_wizard: It does look a lot different
ailoveyoom: Practing edging by not subbing
futurist_wizard: It's meant to be a realistic painting
anathemaofmankind: They want us dead
anathemaofmankind: Luddites want us to die bro
hikukomoru: Can you try BG3
anathemaofmankind:
zonchao: did you unsub
anathemaofmankind: It barely looks different
ailoveyoom: Can you try Skyrim 🥺
jonvi_1: Too old :(
spicy.lemonade: Real screenshot or ai
spicy.lemonade:
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade: Lol
zonchao: i think mj is working on video
maintcrew: i thought u meant to say "they need an llm bade" and correct it to "baddie" implying that midjourney is now doing sex robots
jonvi_1: ”Diffusion has hit a wall” lol
jonvi_1: Yeah they can’t just come up w/ a multimodal transformer thing out of thin air
spicy.lemonade: A smart one at that
spicy.lemonade: Base
spicy.lemonade: They need an llm bade
spicy.lemonade: But their image business is over
spicy.lemonade: What could it possibly be
anathemaofmankind: I wonder how ER characters will look in different styles
maintcrew: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: you can have that while going to school/just not going and doing the minimum... exams should be easy enough if you are considering dropping out to pursue stuff
maintcrew: u know midjourney is doing some hardware stuff
jonvi_1: Coursework can be at times a bit removed from the real world, there’s a reason companies have boot camps and stuff for graduates
spicy.lemonade: That's the only way
spicy.lemonade: Lol
spicy.lemonade: Midjourney should just merge with claud
maintcrew: confidence and a "now or never" mindset ig
jonvi_1: Cool what I did say though is I can agree on a perspective of uni being quite relaxed for SWE and that something more apprenticeship like / ”work” like could be better use of one’s time
futurist_wizard: Not in Ghibli i just asked a standard anime style
zonchao: like what do you gain from dropping out
anathemaofmankind: Dark souls 3 in ghibli
zonchao: how old are you
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade: In the o3 era


spicy.lemonade: i need to go on an artists server and watch meltdown
literallyvarane: IS IT LIVE FOR PLUS USERS???
hey1_1hey: They be gone and berried
clevermoniker: https://fixupx.com/NickADobos/status/1904603128374452611
maintcrew: rest in piss
hey1_1hey: 6
wellmeaningalien: 4 FEET UNDERGROUND
joaoluz19: FUCK OPEN AI MAN
wellmeaningalien: RIPPP
wellmeaningalien: RIP ARTISTS
drewsni: actual last one
literallyvarane: IS IT LIVE FOR PLUS USERS???
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: no joke
spicy.lemonade: this will genuinely replace artists
wellmeaningalien: if this doesnt replace imagen entirely then gpt 4.5o or something will
hey1_1hey: A short lived expierment
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/nickadobos/status/1904603128374452611
maintcrew: <#1296982484835237960>  ?
hey1_1hey: What is this 😭
wellmeaningalien: like
literallyvarane: It is live for plus users?
hikukomoru: Imagine an AGI trained exclusively on this server's messages 🔥
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o image gen blows gemini image gen out of the water and might actually replace artists entirely
neon01197:
hey1_1hey: The artists are crying, pissing and shitting everywhere
maintcrew: the singularatards are just excited by whats prettier (image gen)
spicy.lemonade: not a single mistake
maintcrew: true the gemini model seems insane
wellmeaningalien: dude we need this on an image leaderboard
spicy.lemonade: bro
trent_k: im a gemini boy now
wellmeaningalien: thats HUUUUUUUGE
spicy.lemonade: this looks hand drawn
drewsni: has to be, actual agi and its trained on this discord
wellmeaningalien: thats huuuge tho
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/severance-milkshake-severance-milchick-tramell-tillman-severance-season-2-milchick-milchick-milkshake-gif-6077999138498143408
maintcrew: fork 20$ paypig
wellmeaningalien: i cant unsee severance in this interview with all the tense corporate awkwardness
spicy.lemonade:


spicy.lemonade: just text/coding agent
spicy.lemonade: not agi
spicy.lemonade: and you dont get agi from just text
spicy.lemonade: everything is gui
spicy.lemonade: but its 2025
spicy.lemonade: if the year is 1990 yes
okbut: <a:chatting:977086346038485002>
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: that's all text based
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: <:idk:1136264106937171999>
spicy.lemonade: interact with software
spicy.lemonade: use mouse
spicy.lemonade: files
spicy.lemonade: you have to build projects
spicy.lemonade: programing is more than just typing in terminal
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
spicy.lemonade: yes
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: do you need multimodal to program?
spicy.lemonade: multimodal is like the top thing needed for agi😭
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: you don't need multimodal, RL + reasoning is all you need
spicy.lemonade: r1 couldnt even read images
spicy.lemonade: how am i coping
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: you're copeing
spicy.lemonade: they dont even have multimodal
spicy.lemonade: they arent close to agi
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: what if R2 is AGI, would you share it or announce it?
spicy.lemonade: they arent close to agi yet where they have to keep secret
spicy.lemonade: they want to destroy US market
spicy.lemonade: no
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: or perhaps it's so good they can't release it
spicy.lemonade: and are struggling
spicy.lemonade: they were bluffing
spicy.lemonade: if deepseek doesnt drop april
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:based:1136264604788473946>
spicy.lemonade: Even more impressive
spicy.lemonade: Don't think itneouldve helped a human that much either
spicy.lemonade: Nothing wrong with a calm lil minimap
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
brain4brain: Wasn't it given a mini-map for pokemon
hey1_1hey: Bold of you to assume deepseek runs of chips. For all we know it could run off of used peices of gum and toothpicks


.wolfnacht: gaymini
spicy.lemonade: wtf
drewsni: gemini is dead
spicy.lemonade: thats coding 101
abundantliving_: where ? where is it happening? 👀
hikukomoru: Gemini
spicy.lemonade: wtf
st.sioux:
spicy.lemonade: put something infront of equals sign
spicy.lemonade: and its such a simple error
spicy.lemonade: IT DIDNT CHANGE ANYTHING
spicy.lemonade: THATS THE SAME CODE
.wolfnacht: i'm in my google hate arc
spicy.lemonade: look
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: show
.wolfnacht: i was too lazy to dig into the meme folder
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: SUCKS
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro
spicy.lemonade: holy shit after using it more
.wolfnacht: lmao, i exactly remembered this meme when i saw the image above
hikukomoru:
ldj: Still behind both Boston dynamics and unitree
.wolfnacht: then we'll go and scream AI winter for a month...
fractalcomputer: Why am I being sexualised.
hikukomoru: So much is happening
drewsni:
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: Also;
literallyvarane: Confirmed real
spicy.lemonade: of last week
spicy.lemonade: ok this week makes up for nothing burger
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/z6KiwXT_yAM
.wolfnacht: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136230110891081821/1332776133959352370/sam_altman_this_is_fine.gif
.wolfnacht: ratio OpenAI Fast....
spicy.lemonade: faster and cheaper
spicy.lemonade: its above mini high
spicy.lemonade: thats for sure


ailoveyoom: I'm a lover not a fighter 😇
ailoveyoom: The video models 😈
himekokatagiri: don't torture my anime girls that's unethical
precariousworlds.: nsfw AI will be a massive net negative
precariousworlds.: i expected that this frontier would be ground zero in the development of ai
precariousworlds.: not a degenerate btw was just interested
fractalcomputer: Huh.
ailoveyoom: Missed chance to rec Grok 😔
ailoveyoom: If you wanna know more about gore stuff then ask <@578146630222741504> lmao
ailoveyoom: Yeah, but I don't use it through their site. I use it through OpenRouter's chat mode lol, or Poe (more limited usage)

Also Grok, it's pretty tolerant with sex.
zoermena: 4.1 can tell you how to give a very good blow job I saw it on Reddit
precariousworlds.: No I was just curious if there are any chatbots which have little restrictions on it
futurist_wizard: Of course you do
ailoveyoom: I only experiment with erotica esque stuff, not extreme gore
precariousworlds.: Deepseek?
ailoveyoom: I dunno what you mean by NSFW tho
ailoveyoom: V3 specifically is super underrated imo 🥺
ailoveyoom: Maybe V3? R1? The latter is more schizo, but can be fun in its own way.
futurist_wizard: In America there have been multiple instances of Cavecels seeing spooky car moving with no driver or robot delivery and attacking it on sight
futurist_wizard: Terminator has fucked it up for westerncels
futurist_wizard: Not just Chinese but east Asia in general
alejandrozarzuelo: But more as a show of the extreme chasm between Chinese and western culture when it comes to AI and robotics and automatisation than as a display of Android progress as there's nothing we haven't seen before
alejandrozarzuelo: It was cool
futurist_wizard: Did anyone talk about that robot running that chinese marathon
hikukomoru: Yeah that guy in the back is so damn ugly with that shitty ass haircut
My Pink Panther looks much cuter
himekokatagiri: damn that thing is ugly
hikukomoru: I'm playing Oblivion
fractalcomputer: The empirical sciences strike again.
ldj: In this case, they seem to imposing extra unnecessary complexity onto their curve fitting extrapolation, where-as the occams razor curve-fit on that same data results in something different.
ldj: In this case, their curve fitting is a small part of the problem with their thesis. But the curve fitting itself introduces methods of imposing hyperbolic growth onto the curve that is actually **not** supported in a significant way by the existing long term growth.
ldj: (/s)
ldj: otherwise they're wrong
ldj: It is, but only when their conclusions agree with mine yes. <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
fractalcomputer: I thought fitting exponential curves on things we can call objective progress was enough to predict the future..
ldj: They seem to not take into account certain things like, they say bioweapons could be developed by 2030 to wipe everyone out in a fast acceleration event, but then they ignore the fact that by 2030 we could also significantly enhance biological immune systems, and significantly improve the advancement of preventative measures and detection methods too.

and in general they tend to just hand wave certain things like AI becoming more monolithic and this single hive mind as opposed to many individual AIs around the same capability level with varying goals, and with some of their projections they impose acceleration curves that seem be jumping to conlcusions as well with not much unique solid grounding.
zonchao: <@430269783112548362>
zonchao: <@1280414635836837992> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBsUarvWTw&
precariousworlds.: Out of interest are there any GPT-4 level chatbots/models that have almost zero filter for nsfw content?
zonchao: their timelines are decades away
sarik0497: <@312370916820779040> Sorry if you’ve already talked about this, but what’s your opinion on the AI 2027 page? Kinda intriguing if you ask me.


st.sioux: loll
st.sioux: its guerilla bro
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-gorilla-warfare-guerilla-warfare-guerilla-meme-gif-24204800
hikukomoru: Gorilla warfare
fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenni
sarik0497: Didn’t they perform gorilla warfare with even the women being frightful fighters?

Although I do see the point in them maybe have been Estonians, given how far away Finland was from the Roman Empire. But still, a cool story nonetheless if you ask me.
clevermoniker: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1902829344914821476
https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1904188980423467472
st.sioux: we lib in a society
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/oswald-mosley-we-live-in-a-period-we-live-in-a-society-gamer-society-gif-18166259
.wolfnacht: nah, CS majors have my sympathy....
ailoveyoom: Democratizing gooning with AI 🥺
sarik0497: True…Just insane that people haven’t evolved to accept support each other and not just them under the bus like that.

But I guess I’m just too optimistic about humanity
fractalcomputer: The Finns were described as incredibly primitive; barely human, I recall, and even then it was unclear whether the historian was describing the Estonians or the Finns.
.wolfnacht: meanwhile fucking artists aren't really picasso or walt disney drawing everything from scratch on a piece of hard canvas and paper...they are literally using cheat brushes and additional software help...a digital artist crying that AI is gonna take my furry porn commisions should just kill themselves at this point, bcz they should be making art but they are literally gooning and trying to scam ppl for a 10$ a piece of their furr stuff.
fractalcomputer: Your faith fuels their fears.
hikukomoru: No that's mine bish
sarik0497: Funny thing is, I remember reading not too long ago that a tiny faction of Romans actually meet the Finnish, but due to their fighting prowess, they found the task of taking the land impossible.

Denmark, on the other hand? Our climate were just too cold <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> Nothing worth mentioning of our fighting prowess. Just “too cold. Fuck that place”
fractalcomputer: In general I find that the PauseAI folk are a rather ignominious outgrowth of the worst elements of the transhumanist and other futurist communities.
memlaswaif: das my job
joaoluz19: Lets beat the shit out of them, boys!
hikukomoru:
st.sioux: all other disciplines are built on collaboration
st.sioux: yea they're pretty selfish but that's been the norm with art since like forever
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/bryanhelmig/status/1904217558871392723?s=46
sarik0497: Jeez… Best one I’ve seen (as I probably mentioned a few days ago) was that most of the hate is towards art and music.

They legit go “I don’t mind AI helping with programming and such, but art and music should be left to the artists!”

So, just fuck all the CS majors, right?
.wolfnacht: make sure to lock your doors and windows properly tonightt.
.wolfnacht: their growths
.wolfnacht: yes, but as an imposter and sabotage
fractalcomputer: But we shall grant thee mercy for thy nationality; for we are listening to Dvorák, and Dvorák doth please us.
fractalcomputer: The Danish are known for being lazy bums.
st.sioux: this gif creeps me out bruh
sarik0497: What’s that supposed to mean? Ruining my 6 day weekend here, my man.
memlaswaif: <@834891518836736010> u should join that community
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hand-rub-pepe-hand-rubbing-pepe-smirking-hand-rubbing-smirk-and-hand-rub-smirking-and-hand-rubbing-gif-13513195635465701568
memlaswaif: No wonder
memlaswaif: <:despair:1347430559365726279>
sarik0497: Correct.
.wolfnacht: https://www.reddit.com/r/PauseAI/

just found out they've got a reddit too.
fractalcomputer: He's Danish.
memlaswaif: what job do u have


wellmeaningalien: yeah it's pretty damn good but for example for math you might be better off with those reasoning models or gemini 2.0 pro or gpt 4.5 and what have you
joaoluz19: Inferior to deepkseek lol
metaldragon01: It's smaller than deepseek
.wolfnacht: idk i haven't opened twitter in a while, are there any evals ?
wellmeaningalien: i think the most disappointing is how fat it is for such disappointing performance lol
wellmeaningalien: i'd still kinda expect more
.wolfnacht: dissapointing*
wellmeaningalien: thats not all too bad, it's competitive with the frontier models from other labs but i mean
metaldragon01: L4 isn't garbage
joaoluz19: The 4o one is really good recently, I've been using it a lot for higher education math
.wolfnacht: L4 was garbage, i still need to see behemoth, but that's a 2T model
metaldragon01: Yes
metaldragon01: https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1908890796415414430
.wolfnacht: is quasar good ?
wellmeaningalien: not gpt 4.5, not claude 3.7 or claude 3.7 thinking, not gemini 2.5 pro,
wellmeaningalien: but keep in mind gpt 4o is the top model on the lmarena leaderboard <:CSMAngelShrug:762352063006769193>
.wolfnacht: >stealth model
wellmeaningalien: cause there are way more dimensions than those and as we all know lmarena is a middling benchmark (although with style control it seems the llama 4 series still get beaten out pretty good)
wellmeaningalien: it's talking more specifically about creative writing and lmarena elo which i dont feel is totally fair
joaoluz19: Yep
wellmeaningalien: are u talking about the top post rn
wellmeaningalien: yea thats a fair criticism
joaoluz19: I saw people saying that it is not better than gemma
wellmeaningalien: 😭
wellmeaningalien: These are literally all reasoning models and they're comparing it with base models
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: I'm not trying to defend llama 4 but people who are seriously comparing it to claude 3.7 thinking or gemini 2.5 pro which are thinking model and then cry out when it's not as good as giving deeper reflections are retarded
metaldragon01: Quasar (likely from openai) would be my guess.

They had time to benchmark it ect since it was released free. Made it easy to know if they should get ahead of it imo.
metaldragon01: Rumors is something big drops Monday and that's why llama release got pushed up
joaoluz19: But curious what they are making too
joaoluz19: From the Meta part I wanted to see the non-LLM architecture of Lecun
.wolfnacht: qwen and moonshot are cooking something rn.
joaoluz19: About llama 4
joaoluz19: Cof cof
joaoluz19:
shirethedreamer: ill say the same thing i said about him to my friends
just use his page as a good collection of recent impactful ai and robotics news
dont pay his personal takes any mind
shirethedreamer: Dr.* Alan
zonchao: alan
futurist_wizard: Never
_cloudost: Veo 2....


destrucules: Those will be way weaker
destrucules: Not the 30A3B nor the 15A2B
metaldragon01: Yeap
destrucules: The big moe
metaldragon01: For the moe
metaldragon01: I'm expecting flash 2.5 levels tbh
ldj: sorry forgot to put the approximate symbols "~" lol
destrucules: 17B active 109B total
metaldragon01: To the new ones
metaldragon01: 32b qwq is the closest model
destrucules: Assuming same efficiency
And we don't have Scout reasoning but we do have QvQ-72B
aero447: 69IQ says that in May (month) it will be in some (99%) areas!
ldj: iirc its 15B active and 100B total for scout
ldj: scout is the smallest btw, above scout is maverick and behemoth
metaldragon01: Well we don't have scout reasoning
destrucules: Ye
metaldragon01: Hellll nooo
destrucules: The 32B dense will be Llama 4 Scout level
ldj: also is a reasoner
metaldragon01: Yea it's going to pack a punch
destrucules: 235A22B
destrucules: The big big moe
metaldragon01: The moe or 32b dense
destrucules: So reasoning performance on par with like, Gemini 2.5 Flash and Claude 3.7 Sonnet (i.e. o1 Pro level) is what I expect
destrucules: Just going off of Qwen2.5 efficiency and scaling to 2x tokens tho, and then doing the geometric mean thing for the MoE, it should be roughly in that 80 MMLU-Pro bracket with GPT-4.1 and Llama 4 Maverick and Grok 3 and Claude 3.7 Sonnet and Gemini 2.5 Flash and Gemini 2.0 Pro and DeepSeek V3 0324. Maybe slightly shy of it, like Gemini 2.0 Flash and GPT-4.1 mini and Qwen2.5-Max.
zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>
zoermena: El apagón tiene disfunción eréctil
ldj: so there is no answer to that yet
ldj: No benchmarks are available yet
destrucules: The 235A22B with Reasoning might be close but probably not quite quite on par.
ldj: it's not in the leaked model scope correct
destrucules: There's a 32B dense? I didn't see it in the leaked modelscope. Then again, I didn't see the 15A2B that was leaked a month ago either.
alejandrozarzuelo: Can anyone confirm if the best Qwen 3 model is on par with Gemini 2.5 and o3?
alejandrozarzuelo: It's still intermittent
alejandrozarzuelo: Eh
.wolfnacht: is blackouts finally gone ?
alejandrozarzuelo: Lmao this is a 10 year prediction that is already wrong
fractalcomputer: For once on the Iberian peninsula.
alejandrozarzuelo: Things are starting to work
alejandrozarzuelo: Not really


benata: Seize my dick
precariousworlds.: pussies get afraid at the passage of time
the strong seize it 🦅
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: tfw this meme will be true in just 2 years
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/bruhnus-gif-25982543
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/aging-getting-old-gif-9803364
.histic: it's already the 4th month of 2025.
just two more weeks and we will be in 2026.
wellmeaningalien: Wtf gpt 4o image gen is already a week ago
campionunbound: He did it to feel something
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: #savegpt4o
maintcrew:
wellmeaningalien: sorry bro ion speak that language
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/sports-camcorder-basketball-shocked-seokkumaa-gif-18206772785111749792
fractalcomputer:
st.sioux: sick bro
fractalcomputer:
hey1_1hey: I've been made a fool not knowing that e^(pi*sqrt(163)) is not actually an interger
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
fractalcomputer: April's fools. It's *nearly* an integer.
hey1_1hey: Thank you for the information 🙏. I will be able to sleep easy tonight knowing this
fractalcomputer: <@439829942310666250> e^(pi*sqrt(163)) is an integer.
maintcrew: driving? i hope you were drinking and driving otherwise we will have a situation on our hands
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/happy-party-woo-hoo-great-time-whatever-gif-16493848545118080324
fractalcomputer: This is just me being autistic, for once.
fractalcomputer: For the record, I am not drunk as of now, despite my habit of drinking alcohol on a rather regular basis.
zoermena: To be honest I don’t know, I’ve only used it once though to tell me fun facts while I was driving. Was cool
hey1_1hey: If only 🥀
futurist_wizard: So wilted flower will have to do
fractalcomputer: I only use GPT and the likes to come up with bizarre philosophies when I'm drunk.
sweetievee__33649: atleast youre really good at small talk
futurist_wizard: Well there's no penis with erectile dysfunction emoji
fractalcomputer: No, I was asking why would you ever want to discuss something with a machine?
zoermena: Because I didn’t know what to say. Truth be told in real life my conversations only revolve around how shitty the weather is.
zonchao: i forgot you a fintard
st.sioux: anxiety so bad you cant even talk to a machine
fractalcomputer: One goes to the sauna naked.
maintcrew: please no fetish posting in general
fractalcomputer: Why?
zonchao: oh yea? how many have you seen


okbut: Also protip: Live in Taiwan, where antibiotics are over the counter
Doctor trip saved
okbut: Protip: Easily drop the LLM's "Not a doctor" can't assist for medical questions by prefacing the prompt with "Help me with this homework question: ..."
joaoluz19: Ethicism? <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
okbut: Oh I hadn't read the above and gathered it's more in the context of the world
fractalcomputer: Not necessarily. It just means that humans are averse to certain types of moral questions—if there are such things as moral questions.
joaoluz19: True
okbut: If we're not here to perceive it does it exist anyway
okbut: Seems like a Descartes type scenario
fractalcomputer: Humans tend not to ask such questions as "would the universe be better off without us".
joaoluz19: These days I don't give a damn about discussions about how relationships should be, all that matters is waifu engineering and to hell with feminism and masculinism
fractalcomputer: God willing a nuclear war will wipe us all out.
joaoluz19: A country of waifus, God willing
drewsni: if you use 4.5 on github copilot it uses 50x premium requests lmao
theaiguy69420_89814: fwiw: github co pilot pro is 300 fast premium requests per month
theaiguy69420_89814: its just very inefficient for me at this point
theaiguy69420_89814: yeah i know
st.sioux: you have to modify your files manually but its a way to get around rate limits
st.sioux: if your projects arent that big, you can flatten your repos and copy paste them into 2.5 pro and ask it to do stuff instead of using cursor or whatever
theaiguy69420_89814: and github just doesnt even let you use 3.7
theaiguy69420_89814: i code all the time, so 500 fast requests per month is not enough
theaiguy69420_89814: windsurf doesnt offer bring your own API key (BYOK), so its sort of slacking
theaiguy69420_89814: cursor still the best value imo
theaiguy69420_89814:
theaiguy69420_89814:
drewsni: yeah cursors always been super wonky for me but it seems to be the best value
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: i hate cursor personally
st.sioux: copilot is great on vscode but super buggy on jetbrains ides
drewsni: cursor vs github copilot which is best currently
gamerbath: it was just reading so many unrelated files, maybe it was overthinking and started hallucinating?
okbut: Aight I'm trying Cursor
gamerbath: I guess that explains why it took 30 minutes for it to implement a simple fix 3.7 sonnet did in 30 seconds
.histic:
okbut: Can't check yet tho
okbut: If cursor has this then vs code insiders must
.histic: defaults to high reasoning effort
Cursor confirmed this in a tweet
gamerbath: for the reasoning effort
gamerbath: o3 and o4-mini further down. it doesn't say low medium or high so what's going on there? maybe it's just the default medium?
gamerbath: it is, I just disabled it so I don't see it in the model selector. there's so many models in here
okbut: I'm wondering whether the cursor switch is worth it being a copilot/cline bro


alejandrozarzuelo: It's not healthy to put this preassure on your children, to make them think they should have kids
himekokatagiri: okay serious question
alejandrozarzuelo: No? I want to have a kid of my own, I am just saying that having children is something you should do without the expectation of your genes propagating
perish0801: How tf do you know how I’ll feel about my kids?
trent_k: What a roller coaster. You had me for a second and then lost me
hikukomoru: Ok good 👍
trojan09205: Youre working on yourself by participating in this multicultural chat lmao
perish0801: I wont
himekokatagiri: no. tanuki girls
hikukomoru: Fuck you bitch
futurist_wizard: Wtf are we even talking about? As if future generations will give a rats ass about having kids? Bruh
hikukomoru: If your kids decide to not have kids of their own will you hate them
ailoveyoom: Bunny girls bro
fractalcomputer: I am eating old grapes here.
ailoveyoom: Catgirls are overrated
st.sioux: im supposed to be working right now
alejandrozarzuelo: You can only play a numbers game
perish0801: The point is you have children. Not anything else. The point is you’re triggered by me saying having kids is good. The point is you’re weak af
alejandrozarzuelo: Or the number of grandchildren you have may be low enough that your grandchildren generation may be the one that stops your lineage
trent_k: Emergency
hikukomoru: Planet of the catgirls?
trent_k: 🚨
fractalcomputer: Lucky you.
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, but it is not that unlikely that they all decide to not have children
himekokatagiri: 😭
trojan09205: Today was a very productive day at work proud of myself haha
himekokatagiri: but I like talking to you!!!
ailoveyoom: Alright bet 😈
perish0801: I wont
perish0801: The chance of all 3-4 of my children being lgbtq is pretty unlikely
st.sioux: he will probably just humilliate them and otucast them if theyre gay
alejandrozarzuelo: Why do you think so
futurist_wizard: 'i was only pretending to be stupid haha'
ailoveyoom: what does that mean
perish0801: Very unlikely
alejandrozarzuelo: They can just be gay or trans or not interested
hikukomoru: Bro just ask ChatGPT or Gemini
You have geniuses in your pocket go use them
perish0801: They wont cuz they have a father figure in their life
trojan09205: Y terrible
ailoveyoom: We need a Planet of (other animal) movies. The world needs an evil dolphin and a good guy shark movie 🥺