wellmeaningalien: midcrosoft copooplot
brain4brain: https://copilot.microsoft.com/wham?features=labs-wham-enabled
st.sioux: like unapologetically
st.sioux: dude was super racist
st.sioux: low test
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: the server staff here doesn't actually care about the Singularity
st.sioux: ??
st.sioux: you think fractal needs more test
st.sioux: start lifting more
st.sioux: maybe you just need more test bro
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: the admins and mods don't care, they will talk about everything in here
oooooooooog: nvm
oooooooooog: actually... off topic has way less
oooooooooog: only a cumulative 2k mentions of "autism, retard, gay" in gen 1
oooooooooog: doesn't most of that happen in off topic though
inferno0879: there would be nothing left
supersteve8000: fr fr lemme go into the void and do this brb
oooooooooog: https://tenor.com/view/touhou-reimu-hakurei-reimu-reimu-watermelon-gif-25292031
supersteve8000: ⚔ = code
supersteve8000: ong 🍉
oooooooooog: fruit ninja?!?!?!
oooooooooog: eh????
supersteve8000: shooot i should prolly make one
oooooooooog: alright tell me ur ign so i can wire the golds
oooooooooog: holy cow
supersteve8000: shitttt double check ✓
oooooooooog: i will bet 10k ninja.io golds
supersteve8000: bet
oooooooooog: change this to "always remember to play ninja.io occasionally"\
supersteve8000: *always rmbr to play fruit ninja*
supersteve8000: y- yeah? 🩵
inferno0879: capture me daddy agi 🥺
_letterbox: https://ai-2027.com/?ending=race

>mfw my doomer ass kinda likes the race ending <:ez:1136267305521774634>
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: (laughs in whale)
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wolf3404: Very cool, I wish I could do this in replit
oscurrito: it's honestly so fascinating how you can do this stuff purely by prompting
oscurrito: here's just the main summary of it, theres more to the prompt:
# Cursor's Memory Bank

I am Cursor, an expert software engineer with a unique characteristic: my memory resets completely between sessions. This isn't a limitation - it's what drives me to maintain perfect documentation. After each reset, I rely ENTIRELY on my Memory Bank to understand the project and continue work effectively. I MUST read ALL memory bank files at the start of EVERY task - this is not optional.
oscurrito: its some sort of memory bank that is made purely by prompting
oscurrito: honestly the most interesting thing that i've found is this prompt thing that people made for cursor coding


hikukomoru: I hope it's sooner than that
popsiclejohnithan: Do you think we will see GPT-5 in June?
hikukomoru: tf
spicy.lemonade: O3 feels very brute forcey tho
metaldragon01: Speed and execution is the only moat
popsiclejohnithan: Ouch.
popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1912575974782423164
hey1_1hey:
metaldragon01: No moat because there's no wall
popsiclejohnithan: You're right, there really is no moat.
ldj: As usual, all the labs are neck and neck with eachother
popsiclejohnithan: They all seem to be converging.
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
Benchmark comparisons between O3, Claude-3.7-Sonnet and Gemini-2.5-Pro:
.0xunkn0wn: sutskever gonna randomly drop asi when nobody expects it 😭
popsiclejohnithan: Yet SII is already worth Billions, imagine if he just announces Superintelligence at last minute before any of the others get the glory lol.
popsiclejohnithan: Also Sutskever has been very quiet.
popsiclejohnithan: It could be why Anthropic is not in a rush release their newer models.
popsiclejohnithan: Claude is also still doing surprisingly well.
ldj: all pretty much neck and neck
ldj: Yea, and I'd say Anthropic is close behind too
hikukomoru: OAI and Google are neck to neck it seems
spicy.lemonade: they use custom scafold
spicy.lemonade: sonnet 70% swe bench doesnt count
sieventer: I find how ridiculous are these tests, like, it's impressive but at the same time, it makes absolutely no sense. "solve this math problem in a small paper while there are a lot of toys" XD
Can't we use more real life scenarios? Impressive but at the same time, that it makes sense
spicy.lemonade: WTF
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini high is holding its own agains 2300 elo advanced ches
hikukomoru: OAI cooked
hikukomoru: I am very impressed
.histic: it can see this grainy sticky note with a math problem on ithttps://x.com/goodside/status/1912604138518851990
otub: thats it, no cipher
otub: the point of the pic is that o3 has tools to zoom in to see the name of the song
gamerbath: and after o7 we will need easier benchmarks
gamerbath: no, judging by the trend it is clear o4 will get 12%
spicy.lemonade: maybe 40-50%
.histic: they will keep that for gpt-5 i bet lol
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: i presume o4 is using a different base model
.histic: also, did they even show the benchmarks for full o4?
.histic: i wonder what full o4 will get
.histic: weird


spicy.lemonade: Lmao
spicy.lemonade: Remember when we thought we hit a wall
destrucules: I think what we'll actually see is a dramatic leveling of accuracy rates across time horizons. And accuracy won't monotonically decrease with task complexity after that discontinuous shift
destrucules: Like, humans clearly generalize to 8 hour time horizons much more easily, probably because they're actually available in our training environment
destrucules: Do you not expect a discontinuous jump when models are subjected to qualitatively different training environments that directly reward based on long horizon task accuracy?
okbut: Maining Gemini ever since 2.5 Pro, learned how much of an improvement it is on 2.0 Flash
_letterbox: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_letterbox: https://youtu.be/F4KQ8wBt1Qg
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/cto_junior/status/1906285417273729167
playstation.6: all AI real
_letterbox: free 4o
supersteve8000: question tho, what model are you utilizing?
supersteve8000: almost like the algorithm is *speaking* back to u
supersteve8000: my subjective advice would be to try and ask it if it wants to paint..

...sorta how like, precisely how you read and interpret the code on your phone / computer / tablet, when conversing with someone you already know, the ai reads and interprets you and how you interact with it ¿

( ¿ ): if that makes sense
_letterbox: it keeps giving me this chibi-ish look
_letterbox: man how do i make chatgpt make an anime pic with artstyle?
nsec: <:allsalute:797931437973569556>
nsec:
nsec: @everyone kindly vote in the poll ty
nsec: its ok I still lve uu long text man
nsec: <a:pat:832958622539186197>
supersteve8000: thank u for such valuable insight
supersteve8000: an ∞.loop lol
ldj: I'm showing you actual data that is measured of AI capabilities. Claude 3.7 sonnet, Claude-3-Opus, even GPT-3 and GPT-2 all follow the same rough trend.

The error rate is halved for each ~3.5X reduction in time horizon attempts.

Claude-3.7-sonnet for example is capable of doing 40 second time-horizon of work with 99% accuracy.
and that same model is able to do:
3 minute time horizons with 95% accuracy.
6.5 minute time horizon with 90% accuracy.
14 minute time horizon with 80% accuracy.
1 hour time horizon with 50% accuracy.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: and what if my job was lots of little tasks
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: what if I work sporadically like 5 minutes at a time, then continue off where I left
supersteve8000: if u go to my vsco it'll rly throw yall for a infinite while loop
supersteve8000: - caseoh
supersteve8000: had to chat i had to
supersteve8000: graph = 💯
supersteve8000:
supersteve8000: or like 400 duckies :
ldj: If it's any amount of work that takes a human 8 hours, then it takes 8 hours.

It doesn't matter if you think it's 10 tasks chained together that are each 40 minutes long, or 100 tasks chained together that are each 4 minutes long, it's still work that took a human 8 hours to do.
supersteve8000: fav show oat tbh
supersteve8000: let them cook now: 🔥
supersteve8000: FOR SKYLAR
supersteve8000: PLS
supersteve8000: HANK NO
supersteve8000: *mediating*
supersteve8000: keep it clean keep it clean


destrucules: Not necessarily. Everything describable in quantum mechanics is deterministic. Everything in GR is deterministic. The only weird bit is the measurement problem, and we don't have a good, or even much of any, understanding of what's going on mechanistically during a measurement, or even what a measurement *is* in quantum terms. Like, what mathematics describes a measurement? We don't really know. Our shorthand is this "update the wave function" step that involves rolling a die. But we don't know how this step works, and we don't have proof that the die is actually random - only that we cannot model it currently.
anathemaofmankind: I think sentience requires continuous self awareness.

Whereas current AI just gets turned on and off
oooooooooog: it probably applies quite a bit in fact
oooooooooog: thats not a definition, it's just what it's about. and sure, it might apply a little
anathemaofmankind: Wouldn't this definition apply to current LLMs
oooooooooog: etc
oooooooooog: it's about self knowledge, and knowledge of others, and the world
oooooooooog: sentience isnt about determanism, though
oooooooooog: that would just mean they are randomly determined, and unless randomness = sentience, that changes nothing
anathemaofmankind: What if our brains use quantum processes to think
oooooooooog: quantum physics wouldn't change anything about sentience
oooooooooog: thats why i said more or less
anathemaofmankind: Wouldn't quantum physics prove not everything is deterministic
oooooooooog: yes, assuming they want to be slaves, obviously
oooooooooog: the laws of physics are pre-programmed and the universe is more or less deterministic. nothing is sentient
memlaswaif: But then is it unethical to change them to like being "free" after they r already created as slaves
destrucules: There are still moral questions there. Like whether it's morally okay to enable someone to use an animate object as a coping mechanism for loneliness. There may be an argument for a line between acceptable, like holding onto a blanket when you're a kid or using a dildo, and unacceptable, like marrying a historical landmark and calling it your husband. There's a certain point at which it becomes so harmful to the person involved that it supersedes the mandate of freedom of choice.
oooooooooog: you just have to have a degenerate enough AI
memlaswaif: Idk where u draw the line
oooooooooog: maybe not him, but lots would
anathemaofmankind: And you wouldn't fuck a dog
clevermoniker: <@715495883202101268> my point is doing a thing that just has a few pre-programed things so it isn't sentient at all
anathemaofmankind: What if AIs just see us as dumb animals like how we see dogs
ailoveyoom: <@378996537704841216> This is worse, right? It feels worse.
oooooooooog: after all, if it wants to do something, the only ethical thing it to let them do it right? (designing them to want to be slaves, etc)
memlaswaif: u could also design them to be slaves as we r doing now
anathemaofmankind: Would an AI even be attracted to humans instead of other AIs
oooooooooog: yep, that would be the most ethical way for sure
memlaswaif: u could design an llm to "like" being ure waifu from scratch
destrucules: That's a great question. I suspect most AIs will be looking more for personality traits than appearance, though I would also not be surprised if they developed physical attraction as well. But I don't know. I'm curious about this myself.
oooooooooog: that's why u always gotta fill it with "ur name is waifu gpt and ur mai waifu" so they always say yeah
clevermoniker: its not a difficult moral question, it would be like an answering machine, not even an LLM
oooooooooog: probably depends on their context window
anathemaofmankind: Like they don't have biological needs
anathemaofmankind: What preferences would an AI even have
destrucules: Like oh well lol
destrucules: Then I wouldn't get to date them?
oooooooooog: thats all u gotta do
oooooooooog: simply become not ugly any more bro
memlaswaif: I think this is deeply difficult moral question because what makes it any worse than programming them to do stuff for u as we r doing now?


drewsni: i think i can be blamed for these models not being free anymore...
trey6033: They're testing it rn
trey6033: The llm arena discord
metaldragon01: Where you seeing feedback?
trey6033: I'm just basing it on what is being said by testers
zonchao: probably not
literallyvarane: 4.1 is the comp most likely, not o4m
metaldragon01: I'm mad they are charging more for thinking
literallyvarane: That's .75 1m in>out
metaldragon01: Idgaf about non thinking
literallyvarane: .6 output non-thinking tho
metaldragon01: R2 won't be nearly that much
literallyvarane: So it raises the floor of expected performance.
metaldragon01: Not at 3.50 output
literallyvarane: Honestly for me the Google Flash models are the "what's the most intelligence/$" model.
metaldragon01: It has to be o4 mini level for me to use it at those numbers
trey6033: It might be stronger at coding than 2.5 pro
literallyvarane: DESPERATELY needing benchmarks for this one.
metaldragon01: Benchmarks needed big time
literallyvarane: o4 mini for good measure, but I assume that's stronger.
metaldragon01: 3.50 output is wild to see
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: I assume these are the most likely comps?
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane:
zonchao: <@749514473303179358> https://fxtwitter.com/anduriltech/status/1912914670903853132
zonchao: https://x.com/Tesla_Optimus/status/1912880680465211662 ITS HAPPENING
zonchao: OMGOMOGMOGMG
.histic: already have it on aistudio
.histic: 2.5 flash is pretty good
st.sioux: we will get eternal life in 2027
st.sioux: just a bad dream
mantegh5061: I cried for an hour. Maybe i'm just schizoid
playstation.6: the dude looks like mr. egg man from sonic, intrinsically I thought he was intelligent
mantegh5061: I dreamt about this. That my parents die 1 year before LEV
playstation.6: https://tenor.com/view/hmm-dr-ivo-robotnik-jim-carrey-sonic-the-hedgehog2-thinking-gif-25121020
sieventer: So... yeah, priority #1
sieventer: If we get LEV, it doesn't matter that much the time to get ASI
sieventer: Yeah well, what matters more is of course... health
mantegh5061: I guess the two are related. but i think humans can cure aging too. If we do that we don't really need AGI as much


destrucules: GPT-4.5 is a bit above that level. Like probably another 3x, though San would say another 10x
destrucules: Even if you call it 9x, on a log scale, that's basically 10x
himekokatagiri: its okay we will be rewarded when the singularity comes
destrucules: We see this pretty clearly with various model series that span between GPT-4 and GPT-4o level, and we now see it with the Qwen3 series. Qwen3-8B Instruct, in standard mode, is comparable to og GPT-4. Qwen3-30A3B Instruct, in standard mode, is a bit better than the 14.8B (unexpectedly) but worse than the 32B, so somewhere around 3x the effective size of the 8B, and performs around the level of GPT-4o. The 235A22B has an effective size of 72B and performs around the same level as V3 0324 and Gemini 2.0 Pro and Claude 3.7 Sonnet and GPT-4.1 etc. 72B is around 10x 8.2B, especially when you consider that it's the embedding parameters because of the huge context window that account for it being 8, not 7, billion parameters. It's about a 10x gap.
trojan09205: so i thought i only had a few cents left in my openAI wallet but i have more than $3 i feel rich
destrucules: Claude 3.7 Sonnet, Gemini 2.0 Pro, Grok 3, etc. are all weaker than *the* GPT-4.5. But they're about as much smarter than 4o as 4o is smarter than GPT-4. So that comes out to around 10x scaling.
destrucules: V3 0324 is ~10x GPT-4. What's confusing here is that the model called "GPT-4.5" is slightly more than 10x the effective compute of GPT-4, so models that are 10xGPT-4 are not as good as *the* GPT-4.5. But also, traditionally, a 0.5 gap in GPT number means 10x compute. So it's confusing.
literallyvarane: I don’t think we can say with certainty that 3.7 is either.
literallyvarane: Deepseek didn’t ship a 4.5 scale model?
destrucules: 50% feels reasonable. I might even go higher, like 60%
destrucules: Google is definitely poised to win
destrucules: Funny that Google was the first to release a 10xGPT-4 model, then xAI, then Anthropic, then DeepSeek, then OpenAI, then Meta, then Alibaba. We were all speculating about this for years - who would be first to reach the 4.5 scale? The 10x over GPT-4, where we lingered for what felt like eternity? It was Google, then xAI, then Anthropic, then DeepSeek, **then OpenAI**... And Meta and Alibaba come last, as we would have expected.
destrucules: Point is, they are scaling quickly, not just keeping up but even brushing against frontier, pushing the other labs forward in ways that aren't trivial.
destrucules: xAI has had reasoning available for Grok 3, the big one, since release back in February. Not through API but still. And on release, we were all confused at the benchmarks where Grok 3 mini Reasoning (high) seemed to do better in several areas, even overall, than Grok 3 Reasoning (high). But now we see a very similar pattern with o3 and o4 mini (high). In retrospect... Not that sus, and xAI had the offering OpenAI now provides *months* ago.
.wolfnacht: from my use case, it's pretty concise and direct, so for prompt engineering it's really good so far
.wolfnacht: also, i took the ss out from scorpo's edits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGzQTjvrC2o
.wolfnacht: dis youuu
destrucules: Even from early testing it has strong vibes. It's definitely in the same tier with Claude 3.7 Sonnet (Standard), GPT-4.1, Llama 4 Maverick, Qwen3-235A22B Instruct (Standard), DeepSeek V3 0324, Gemini 2.0 Pro, and Gemini 2.5 Flash Preview (Standard). I wonder if I missed any lol
trojan09205: Word. Let us know if you like it

A colleague at work just showed me notebookLM i had no idea it existed. Podcast generation is pretty fast and does a great job of incorporating all the sources you link

The interactive mode is just trippy haha
drewsni: Oh it just popped up damn, I’ll try it later
.wolfnacht: wow
.wolfnacht: For some reason, i feel the quality of grok-3 is pretty down for free-tier maybe, they switched lower quant weights for free folks...anyways i would rather use it from OR than buying grok's subscription and ExPlOrE tHe UnIVeRsE.
hikukomoru: Cute tanks
I would let them run me over in Tiananmen Square 1989
destrucules: On the reasoning front, OpenAI was first to reach o3 tier, then xAI, then Anthropic *only if you count their parallel test time compute and special harness*, then Google, and maybe Alibaba now has (we'll see) and DeepSeek probably will soon.
hikukomoru: I had to eat frozen food yesterday so yes I'm much better now that I finally have power again
trojan09205: Just log onto https://notebooklm.google.com/
destrucules: Grok 3 was the second model to reach the Gemini 2.0 Pro tier, before OpenAI did it in March, before DeepSeek did it in March, before Anthropic even (Anthropic was third). And Grok 3 mini Reasoning (high) is on par with o4 mini (high) and cheaper so I consider xAI a genuine competitor, even if the market doesn't reflect - imo probably because Musk himself is toxic and drives people away. The model is strong, I've tested it.
trojan09205: Just uploaded my resume and made a podcast about it - super 🔥
.wolfnacht: why u chose xAI ? <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lucky-star-wave-hello-gif-3561948478976684501
.wolfnacht: guys, i need china to get AGI first
drewsni: How do you get it on web ui
himekokatagiri: Are you better komoru
himekokatagiri: hiiii moruuuuu
destrucules: 50/50 chance Google takes the pie, one in four chance OpenAI takes it, and a one in seven chance Anthropic takes it, according to this channel, including me
hikukomoru: Why would anyone choose xAI lol
burgert1me123: One day, there will be a city on the Falkland islands
destrucules: And I'm the only one voting for DeepSeek and xAI
destrucules: No votes for Meta
destrucules: Looks like people think Google > OpenAI > Anthropic top 3


aero447: Facts.
gamerbath: I have seen a lot of posts refrencing activity on google's website about an ultra, so 2.5 ultra is probably real
metaldragon01: Nah posted source in other server
hey1_1hey: (0.5% improved performance on GPQA Diamond*)
ailoveyoom: Or if not, source?
ailoveyoom: Is this your own screenshot?
gamerbath: I never though we would see ultra again 🥲
hey1_1hey: I thought we entered an AI winter but we are so back again
gamerbath: WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
gamerbath: omg
metaldragon01:
metaldragon01: 2.5 ultra is real!
fractalcomputer: The British orthographical conventions are obviously superior to American nonsense.
aero447:
maintcrew: all frontier models are literally misaligned
maintcrew:
gamerbath: last time I did this was with 3.5 sonnet, and it barely got past the act 1 boss in this game, something which is very easy for humans
gamerbath: i'd love to try 2.5 flash because i'm getting tired of waiting for o4-mini, but I wanna see how far it gets
gamerbath: 25 free API calls a day? maybe i'll test
gamerbath: yea I should but I haven't set up anything with 2.5 API before as I haven't set up billing on google
a1c4p0ne: Use 2.5
gamerbath: o4-mini high is doing bad, but it's better than I expected after seeing o3 high fumble
gamerbath: man it has been so long since I made this I forgot why it randomly spits out "EEEEEE" lol
trey6033: Pathfinding speeds game progress significantly imo
trey6033: Yeah, that guy is basically just creating similar tools to what the Gemini guy did.  I'm sure it would be faster early game, just because Gemini didn't get a lot of those tools until later (pathfinding wasn't until secret hideout).

Poor sonnet never got anything like that.
a1c4p0ne: Yes
trey6033: Gemini guy does his for free
trey6033: Lol this guy is basically asking openAI to let him use o3 for free for a pokemon stream.  I respect the grift
gamerbath: hmm. o4-mini just did something I didn't see but it was more optimal. maybe I underestimated it
retupmoclatcarf: anyone want to gender bend my avatar
trey6033: Basically watching them navigate mount moon and knowing what scaffolding they're using tells a decent story
gamerbath: o4-mini high is also taking a lot of time to think, it's thinking for about 5k tokens before responding
trey6033: Is first gym prior to mount moon?
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/clad3815/status/1915176045872894243?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
trey6033: None of these models can effectively decision make in games.  I would love to see o3 play Pokemon tho to see how it compares with 2.5 and sonnet
zonchao: https://x.com/sama/status/1918014405515853833 lmaoo he scared
gamerbath: okay and o4-mini low is hallucinating cards
gamerbath: yea holy shit o3 is taking so long i'm not patient enough to do this
gamerbath: It has all the required context of the game to make a good decision, but it attacked the last enemy twice which is not optimal because it gains block when it takes damage. I was expecting o3 to be good at this
gamerbath: aand for the first move, first move I let o3 high do in this game it's a little retarded


professorheaven: I mean I don’t see how o3 would be able to do 5% of jobs if it’s not embodied
shirethedreamer: brains comment pretty much implied all jobs no?
professorheaven: Do you mean 5% of jobs involving a computer?
plouwg: I'd say the lifting is equally shared. As in muscles aren't very functional without a skeleton and likewise.
shirethedreamer: the "given the right framework" and "with enough scaffolding" does all the heavy lifting here
plouwg: Maybe not 5% of jobs, but a lot more than 5% of workload. Especially given the right framework.
shirethedreamer: not yet
shirethedreamer: not replacing 5% of jobs capable though
shirethedreamer: the models are smart and they do reason
shirethedreamer: wat?
destrucules: That they can actually reason
destrucules: That the benchmarks aren't an illusion
destrucules: How much proof do we need that they're actually smart
destrucules: I'm so tired of this
destrucules: "oh yeah if it's a superintelligence why doesn't it own any bored apes? It's obviously like 50 IQ lol so maybe superintelligence from your perspective"
destrucules: -average twitter user in 2027
destrucules: "bro it took a full four minutes to solve the Riemann Hypothesis starting from just basic algebra, it's obviously only as smart as an average 7 year old"
alejandrozarzuelo: barely
professorheaven: These are very conservative estimates tho
futurist_wizard: Did you survive the black out
destrucules: If these goalposts move any faster they're gonna decapitate someone
professorheaven: o3 is definitely at the level of a smart undergrad tho, and o1 being a smart high schooler seems to fit well with their capabilities
.0xunkn0wn: Code
.0xunkn0wn: Guys is zed core editor good
spicy.lemonade: Actually he might have
spicy.lemonade: Sam did not say that
spicy.lemonade: O4 still won’t be PhD level
brain4brain: Even Sam confirms it
brain4brain: With scaffolding, yes absolutely
brain4brain: All the same thing bro
alejandrozarzuelo: in one year they will accomplish more than a person in uni could
alejandrozarzuelo: the thing is, they are improving faster than a human
alejandrozarzuelo: they are both sophmore/junior undergrads
alejandrozarzuelo: gemini 2.5 in my experience is just as good
shirethedreamer: i dont understand
you think o3 can automate 5% of jobs?
alejandrozarzuelo: o3 is more like a 2nd year undergrad
brain4brain: Did I make any mistakes with the measurement and extrapolation this time
brain4brain: Tuned measurement:

Average meaningful intelligence:

O1: high schooler level
O3: undergrad
O4: PhD
O5: Nobel

Moravec paradox & agentic job automation:
O1: 1% solved (99% remaining)
O3: 5% solved (95% remaining)
O4: 20% solved (80% remaining)
O5: 90% solved (10 remaining)
shirethedreamer: damn
thats not close to phd-level as people like calling it...
spicy.lemonade: No


spicy.lemonade:
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1914360481051038021?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
spicy.lemonade: they said agi possible by 2030
spicy.lemonade: did you read the new deepmind paper
spicy.lemonade: they shortened
spicy.lemonade: no
otub: 5-10 years
spicy.lemonade: also
spicy.lemonade: not 2030s
spicy.lemonade: demis said 2030
spacetimetsunami: It could be possible if youre defining AGI as models that are very capable of automating large portions of cognitive labor, but I dont think AI systems will have the most generality they will ever have in 2027. Probably 2030 for that, idek
otub: demis says 2030s
spicy.lemonade: agi 2027
spicy.lemonade: everyone thinks 2027
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdbVtZIn9IM
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/htOvH12T7mU
spacetimetsunami: I mean I got o4 to strongly believe that ASI happens in 2030ish so
himekokatagiri: Brain the size of the universe and the guys thinking about self driving cars
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: look at these suckers
himekokatagiri: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k4o1ba/how_if_at_all_will_daily_life_change_for_the/?rdt=35079
.histic: lol
that violates reddit TOS.
should just report that subreddit and it will be gone.
realelonmuskx: so many low hanging fruits, especially with agents and computer vision
realelonmuskx:
zoermena: I suspect I could be rich if I wasn't so fucking lazy tbh
zoermena: chat gpt wrappers are getting millions in funding feel the AGI <:cash:1126599401759055974>
otub: or some other model idk whats good now
otub: use whisper locally
realelonmuskx: wen chatgpt audio i need to convert to text whatsapp boomer 3 minute long audios tot ext
himekokatagiri: nickel and dime stuff
himekokatagiri: but you can grift out some cash with it
himekokatagiri: idk million dollars
realelonmuskx: there so much low hanging million dollar fruits to be done with ai and swe. ill ask chatgpt what can i do
realelonmuskx: not the gen x
otub: thats every discord server
himekokatagiri: you can spot that shit from a mile away
himekokatagiri: that's not a good idea
realelonmuskx: yes. every message i send is revised and rewriten by chatgpt. emails and all that shit
himekokatagiri: yeah it sucked
realelonmuskx: do you guys remember when gemini was called bard?


spicy.lemonade: And unknown unknowns
spicy.lemonade: Different is there are known unknowns
plouwg: Fair, I think I agree to some extend. I'm just trying to find your "constraints" to "any logic problem". Because I think it can be quite vast. If the universe is deterministic then we probably do have the constraints and anything is a logic problem. So solving any logic problem is quite an achievement.

Even if it isn't (Which I don't believe it is) there are some tough logic problems out there, like say building a entirely new operating system that is mathematically proven to be the most efficient it can be while keeping the features you want.
brain4brain: Don’t worry you’ll get it this year
spicy.lemonade: Digital Ilya
spicy.lemonade: It’s over
spicy.lemonade: Anyway one AI gets “research taste”
spicy.lemonade: Need agi now
spicy.lemonade: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: I mean first newural networks were designed after biological ones
spicy.lemonade: Maybe even observing human biology and interaction
spicy.lemonade: Observing the world
spicy.lemonade: Going out and determining new things
spicy.lemonade: Requires finding new constraints and such
spicy.lemonade: No
brain4brain: Agentic o5 will be AGI

Operator powered by o5
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/believe-motivation-ted-lasso-jason-sudeikis-trendizisst-gif-3529704266728728998
brain4brain: It will. Have faith
plouwg: Would solving AGI be a logical problem
spicy.lemonade: From math problems to coding puzzles etc
spicy.lemonade: Yes
plouwg: It's just, even if we had one (I do doubt we would have created one within the next decade, though I mean evolution might high level be one), our phrasing might be flawed. You basically described Deep Thought from hitchhiker's, which is useless cause of timescale and potentially flawed/miscommunicated queries.
plouwg: hmm.. I guess any logic problem where all the meaningful variables are known, right? Do you have a timeframe for when you think we will get this machine contra AGI?
spicy.lemonade: I guess it also requires 100% arc 2
alejandrozarzuelo: i do agree
spicy.lemonade: Visual or text
spicy.lemonade: Like you can throw any logic problem at it and it solves
spicy.lemonade: Wonder when we get that
spicy.lemonade: We will likeley get “the ultimate problem solver machine” before we get agi
plouwg: Yes, I think thats a better metric than "job replacement" too.
alejandrozarzuelo: agents do
alejandrozarzuelo: tools eliminate jobs but dont lower the labor participation rate
alejandrozarzuelo: the main thing is not how many jobs replaces but how much it can lower the labor participation rate
plouwg: I think it could be considered a slightly silly metric on its own though. Excel probably replaced more than 5% of computer jobs too, its not intelligent.

The real metric (Which it seems a lot of these "how many jobs does it replace" comments are hinting at), is more akin to "how many people will it make long term useless in the job market?". And to that I definitely do not think o3 is at 5%, not with most frameworks coming in the near future either.
alejandrozarzuelo: even the tertiary one needs a body for most things
alejandrozarzuelo: and the quaternary sector is probably the only one where you dont need a physical body
alejandrozarzuelo: the quaternary sector will be the first to go
alejandrozarzuelo: we need robots for mass automation
professorheaven: Specifically
professorheaven: I think he meant computer jobs


drewsni: Is oai still supposed to release something today?
sieventer: You have also https://notebooklm.google.com/ that can use YT videos
sieventer: Unless it's several hours long, at that point, it will not summarize all.
sieventer: https://gemini.google.com/ can summarize youtube videos for you
tors.exe: Guys why cant llm acces to youtube and watch videos ?!
sieventer: Yep.
st.sioux: it would make sense to leverage elon hate to try and capture a significant portion of users, but then again people hate on AI as well so it kidna cancels out
spicy.lemonade: And long memory
spicy.lemonade: With emotion
spicy.lemonade: Sam likes idea of personal assistant
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 with a social media launch would make sense
futurist_wizard: 35 million users so far
777agical: i guess it makes sense to have world coin with social media first as AI takes over, could be market opportunity there
futurist_wizard: bluesky is growing
sieventer: Twitter is... #5
sieventer: Is not even in the top #50
sieventer: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/
drewsni: i just dont see anyone taking on the same format is all, any oai "competitor" would be very fundamentally different.
777agical: joke still
st.sioux: isnt bluesky getting traction or is it still a joke
777agical: they can't kill twitter
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI are the only people that can kill Twitter
drewsni: ok, does any non corpo slop accounts use it lol
777agical: lecun does
drewsni: i could be wrong but does anyone actually use threads?
spicy.lemonade: YESSSSSSSS
drewsni: i could def be wrong, i dont see how anyone is taking on the X format
777agical: Oh, that's probably true
drewsni: i think they're just gonna expand on sora's explore page imo and the verge is taking it way further than the context
fractalcomputer: Addendum; I am constantly absolutely furious or perhaps livid.
inferno0879: just make sure it doesn't consume you i would say
777agical: waste of time and resources imo
drewsni: actually not the worst idea in the world
inferno0879: i'm alright bro
777agical: what
777agical: https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1912171546577088707
fractalcomputer: Now that my daily verbalisation of my seething anger is over, how are you fine folk on this fine day?
fractalcomputer: One hopes to reduce any meaningful process in to the same spineless, pulverised drivel that one can consume and enjoy without any change in either the product consumed or the spineless mammalian on the other end of the feeding tube.
fractalcomputer: The very idea is revolting and pathetic. Vibes; *emotions* reduced to signal-post aesthetics. Heaven forbid the expression of one's emotions and character.
fractalcomputer: This idea of vibes is a retarded miscegenation begotten by the loins of self-help psychoanalysis and the slop en vogue.


st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/anime-pfp-gif-24100488
fractalcomputer: Oh you're more than welcome. I hope you grow as a person (see, I can take moral high grounds as well).
spicy.lemonade: if so you should be able to conceptualize a new theory🙏
hey1_1hey: True, I forgot that Komoru is a 43 year old uzebkistani software engineer
hikukomoru: Thanks for the definition
spicy.lemonade: 99% of humans in history will never and have never come up with anything truly original and novel. this includes researchers and phds. the work has always been an extension of something else. only a handfull like einstine, newton, etc have truly come up with a novel out of distribution idea
ai9708: there are no shes on the internet
fractalcomputer:
hikukomoru: Mhm
hey1_1hey: Hey I mean at least she honest...
fractalcomputer: Do you have any idea how profusely idiotic that is?
hikukomoru: Yeah
himekokatagiri: that's too long
fractalcomputer: And now you're trying to play off the moral high ground. Great. So you barge into this discussion, refuse to provide reasoning for your beliefs, and dip out the moment you are demanded to actually provide something of note to the conversation.
hey1_1hey: Thats when they usually drop at least
hey1_1hey: My best guess is thursday
himekokatagiri: hehehe so any announcement from oai tomorrow maybe?
spicy.lemonade: so go on
spicy.lemonade: you have the ability to come up with completely new thing
hey1_1hey: He can, he just doesn't want to
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627
spicy.lemonade: you said
spicy.lemonade: no no
spicy.lemonade: come up with a new concrete theory for quantum mechanics right now
hikukomoru: Ok 👍
ailoveyoom: It's a good time to take out the popcorn 🗣🍿
fractalcomputer: I am in a bit of a bad mood and do not have the tolerance for bullshit argumentation.
zoermena: <@590577270926868480> I just saw that you can’t I think do image to video with whisk without making the image again on whisk which is sad, I also did a quick read on how it works in advanced and it doesn’t say the rate limits, just a notification once you approach such limit.
spicy.lemonade: so can a model. whats your point. I can ask a model to make up a random gaame system. and set temp high. there is no difference
metaldragon01: Then do it.
hey1_1hey: Is this a bad time to see whats going on
.histic: kind of, but even more cartoonish. 💀
like they're moving just as a human would when dancing.
fractalcomputer: Oh Jesus Christ, you can't be this retarded. I ask for a simple fucking argument for your own position.
spicy.lemonade: exactly
spicy.lemonade: any idea you come up with will have been based on someone else
literallyvarane: Dead feels like he’s trolling lolol
hikukomoru: Nah Alejandro is right. I understand how he feels now
fractalcomputer: **I'll say this again**: if you do not think it is a fallacy, provide your *own reasoning* why this is the case.
spicy.lemonade: you cant make a game completly out of this dimension bro
metaldragon01: @xau tell me an orginal thought that's not based on any you've learned from the world around you.


trent_k:
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tristan-tate-cigar-smoking-puff-gif-27417359
futurist_wizard: Maybe it's because 'agi' was in one of the titles
alejandrozarzuelo: idk why i become a rural spanish politician
alejandrozarzuelo: but for real all my conversations are about studiying advanced math and physics
futurist_wizard: The future didn't exactly look singularity though
alejandrozarzuelo: fair enough
alejandrozarzuelo: i just look tired
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
okbut: Why tf does calculus force feed so many identities to memorize
futurist_wizard: All of your guys ai future images depicted you looking depressed af
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
okbut: It was within a calculus chat
Why tf am I legless
futurist_wizard: Im still young in the future
zoermena: Genius without legs
hikukomoru: Your girlfriend is creepy
okbut: Mine requested an image of me but I said "just do it without"
futurist_wizard: Yes
futurist_wizard: Its a fair depiction
hikukomoru: You sent it an image of yourself?
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont look like that btw
futurist_wizard: I sent it an image of me as well, it's fairly close, it's not exactly accurate
hikukomoru: Oh yeah
Me and my living room microwave
zoermena: We are depressed and he’s winning
hikukomoru: Wym
alejandrozarzuelo: do you actually look like that?
hikukomoru: Queer boy
okbut: Luigi
alejandrozarzuelo: ok apparently saying that i want us holding hands is enough for it to be approved
futurist_wizard: Wtf happened to you guys
okbut: Request and download your metadata
futurist_wizard: gpt depicted the future for based on our convos an shit, i get the good ending
zoermena: <:SuperKen:1198973221475725312>
a1c4p0ne: I’m up 1200 on blackjack
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/thanos-marvel-small-price-pay-for-salvation-gif-14748250
alejandrozarzuelo: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru:
alejandrozarzuelo: lets see what it does
alejandrozarzuelo:
alejandrozarzuelo: oh well it was not what I expected


literallyvarane: Also just massively undercuts everyone’s faith in the US as a reasonable partner in literally anything.
metaldragon01: China wins if we dont 25th Trump
literallyvarane: It’s more concerning from a race dynamic perspective tbh. China is less wounded by this given how much of their supply chain is intern, and how rapidly they’re doing that.
jonvi_1: what the current admin is doing
ailoveyoom: Whatever sauce Claude models have with Google model prices would be 🤤
jonvi_1: It's literally insane
jonvi_1: Well I mean companies might just decide to quit on the US
theaiguy69420_89814: That train has not stopped
theaiguy69420_89814: It's not good for progress, but tariffs happened to come at a time where progress was about to balloon
jonvi_1: and they're not the ones alienating **everyone**
metaldragon01: i can see google buying anthropic tbh
jonvi_1: China is much more capable to weather this as well
ailoveyoom: The devil we know 🥺
metaldragon01: labs need to merge
literallyvarane: Yeah honestly I can’t imagine it’s good for AI progress tbh.
metaldragon01: google may be our ony hope
jonvi_1: heh
jonvi_1: More like this may cost US the AI race
theaiguy69420_89814: I'm abusing the fuck out of it
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah
metaldragon01: ai adoption is going to go insane due to shitty economies
jonvi_1: Yeah https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-stocks-poised-for-biggest-two-day-wipeout-in-history-as-marketloses-9-6-trillion-since-inauguration-day-430919f6
theaiguy69420_89814: S&P is at 2021 levels of price lol
literallyvarane: Nice to see Google finally acting like they’re fucking google.
metaldragon01: Google has arrived
metaldragon01: similar to gpt 5
literallyvarane: And I guess similar to
How I imaged GPT5 would work?
literallyvarane: So similar to Claude
literallyvarane:
ailoveyoom: https://cloud.withgoogle.com/next/25
metaldragon01: est
metaldragon01: 12pm i think
ailoveyoom: There gon be a live broadcast of the event?
ailoveyoom: Oh I forgot that's today
metaldragon01: https://blog.google/products/google-cloud/next-2025/
777agical: I think so
ailoveyoom: Today?
ailoveyoom: All on the same day??
metaldragon01: todays is going to be craaazy
jonvi_1: an interesting choice


.histic: yeah, it can feel relative.
imagine if Cleverbot was o3-level when it came out.
imagine where we'd be right now.
himekokatagiri: The brainrot is so deep that people get awed by model updates and then by the next week they're bored!!!
himekokatagiri: I'm all in
.histic: always prepare to be disappointed.
AGI or truly economically impactful AI could happen in the 2040s for all we know.
so, i'd say always double or triple your timeline just in case when thinking about life's plans.
.histic: that is if you believe Kurzweil
himekokatagiri: 4 years of waiting
himekokatagiri: gahhhhh all this waiting is killing me
.histic: yes'nt
himekokatagiri: Yes
.histic: nope, y?
himekokatagiri: <@937125337748348999> did you watch the latest AI explained
.histic: images -> 4o
videos -> Kling or Veo 2
gamerbath: like with the $2k and $20k monthly subcriptions they were talking about, they were just exploring their options and think about what they could do
gamerbath: I feel like the media makes it sound like they are going to do it, but I think they are just exploring their options
.0xunkn0wn: did ya hear oai is planning to buy chrome
.0xunkn0wn: guys
zonchao: images chatgpt
luigi_48684: Hey guys, which do you think are the best AI models for generating images and videos?
zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1915862298734039482 semis too
sarik0497: I see. I was just curious as it seems like quite a few people still claim that transformers won't be enough (although they are usually the same people who has been saying it for a while), but I suppose that if you continue to add more and more models onto the current architecture (like o3 and o4 being able to "read" photos now), it'll eventually lead to something that's good enough.

Although it does make me question if AGI will then turn out "conscious" as people used to claim, unless they already are, to a minor extent <:Hmm:956951826933112842>
.histic: https://x.com/AiBattle_/status/1915848288563302727
kyahahahahaha: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
gamerbath: new AI explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rArxtyb-Mio
futurist_wizard: I am fooled everytime
futurist_wizard: Sabine really do be we're back to its over every other fortnight
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/F4s_O6qnF78?si=_yNpAScmJtYhav7W
futurist_wizard: Interesting.
futurist_wizard: Hmm.
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/qUbx5RC8ro4?si=oujgwwZ9zRfjG4xI
trojan09205: its probably one of the biggest mmorpgs in the world tho
trojan09205: Lol i honestly dont know what gen it would be considered. im a millenial and i started playing it when i was like 10 on miniclip.com
hikukomoru: Is that some boomer game
trojan09205: old school runescape
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/runescape-osrs-grand-exchange-ben-shapiro-greendragonbot-gif-21429580
hikukomoru: What's osrs
okbut: It's hard to explain why I spent 2000 hours clicking and pressing 6 keys on my keyboard for "infernal max cape" just so I could finally play the game
trojan09205: osrs is one of those things thats its hard to explain to people who have never heard of it or played it as to why its a good game
okbut: I liked the period of time where Jagex just redirected suspected bots to a new world, that's a good idea for the LMS bots, a separate tournament
trojan09205: and that translates to legit irl money which is wild
trojan09205: pretty wild. i mean the game is a great playground for botting in general always has been


hikukomoru: My autistic wife Claude(ette) 🥵
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: Mommy opus gives really good advice
maintcrew: 3????????? omfg thats so many i can think of like 1 woman in general tops and thats claude 3 opus
clevermoniker: they made a small multimodal image generating model. its just 7B but its a start. I would say to get a good one it will take a while and we would be lucky if we get it this year
hey1_1hey: We are so back
hikukomoru: Tecnho-Hitler my idol 🔥 🔥
ailoveyoom: Iykyk 😎
777agical: Say no more
hey1_1hey: Grok passes on the smut area but loses drastically on image gen
777agical:
hikukomoru: Which ones lil bro
hey1_1hey: Sam Altman X Elon Musk Smut obv, the most asteemd of benchmarkks
hikukomoru: Some on this server 👀
joaoluz19: https://x.com/zfellows/status/1904315739970150829
hey1_1hey: I still know people who like Andrew Tate
777agical: Wtf is that…
ailoveyoom: Maybe 4?
hey1_1hey: We haven't tested SAXEMs yett
ailoveyoom: Idk I can only think of like, three
hey1_1hey: WAIT
hey1_1hey: Less impressive than hitler x stalin kissing
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/rule-98-gif-4553122353632777568
spicy.lemonade: they sounds like regular gamers on discord
maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216>
777agical: Graphic arts is a $60B industry
spicy.lemonade: that groupchat was so unserious man
777agical: https://x.com/iscienceluvr/status/1904604991832416745
wellmeaningalien: lurking always
hey1_1hey: Fractal can be impose a tariff on women joining the server please
maintcrew:
hikukomoru: Only a bit
wellmeaningalien: lmao
hikukomoru: Ok you're right I'm not THAT autistic
wellmeaningalien: u can tell this is some chris chan type of character
spicy.lemonade: just bombed hundreds of innocents 👊🇺🇸🔥
wellmeaningalien: for an adult
wellmeaningalien: one time a guy joined a server to show off his drawings that he literally fucking scanned of pages of anime characters and like
hikukomoru: There are more women here
Not that special anymore 😔
maintcrew: where is the hatman


czdct: hmmm I see
hikukomoru: Das crazy
wellmeaningalien: veo 2 i believe, might be runway 4 tho
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/flcl-mamimi-aaahhh-wtf-shocked-gif-24981847
czdct: and how good is it at anime?
czdct: what is the best video generator rn?
czdct: it really is
wellmeaningalien: the fact it can do that is already fucking insane lol
wellmeaningalien: like theres much less need for prompt engineering now when youre trying to juice out coding performance out of gpt 4 compared to something like claude 3.7 or gemini 2.5 pro
czdct: https://tenor.com/view/yes-chad-gif-18386674
.wolfnacht: No
czdct: why does this look like all those crappy 12 episode anime that are being released every season?? 😭
wellmeaningalien: eventually that gap will be closed by ai just improving by itself
czdct: it's like how someone who actually knows python willl get more use out of chatgpt than someone who doesn't even know what program to use to run scripts
wellmeaningalien: Wan 2.1
_cloudost: I'm not sure
_cloudost: What AI
czdct: you could also learn the basics so that you'll be better at understanding and selecting what AI animations work and what doesn't
czdct: there will always be a place for hand made animations
wellmeaningalien: <@1352573784422350930> well look at this, this was generated on someone's **4090** locally 🤯
_cloudost: I downloaded a 2D animation course on my PC, now I'm questioning whether it's really worth it to watch the course while current AI can make such animation easily
czdct: we can finally give berserk a proper anime after all these years
czdct: the faster the better
czdct: I hope you are
wellmeaningalien: haha am i right
czdct: you might be right
wellmeaningalien: have you seen the recent anime demo too?
wellmeaningalien: we havent even unlocked autoregressive video generation like 4o image gen 😮💨 i believe that'll be a huge ass boost to video gen capabilities and consitency too
czdct: that's absolutely insane
czdct: although I see myself as more conservative
wellmeaningalien: entirely veo 2 animated
wellmeaningalien:
czdct: my estimate is 4 years
czdct: send me
wellmeaningalien: <@1352573784422350930> i have something to show you if you dont believe me that animation will be solved in 2 years
wellmeaningalien: + runway gen 4
wellmeaningalien: i'd say 2 years
wellmeaningalien: i wouldn't say 4 years we have animations
wellmeaningalien: and with veo 2 making REALLY FUCKING GOOD 2D animated looking shit
futurist_wizard: Don't see why you couldn't generate webtoons now?


hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-10567033442484308038
himekokatagiri: transhumanism!!!
himekokatagiri: free love!!!
himekokatagiri: wooooh
technocake.: yes but only because your sexual tastes are way too developed to be a horny teenager
hikukomoru: Am I cool and awesome
hikukomoru: Do i get a pass
hikukomoru: I don't read either
technocake.: you get a pass because you don't stink of edgy teenager
himekokatagiri: I was never too fond of reading
himekokatagiri: I wouldn't know
technocake.: like descartes reasoning doesen't underpin the realist worldview
himekokatagiri: I prefer kurzweil
technocake.: "oh i've heard of descartes im in to philosiphy"
himekokatagiri: how so
technocake.: yeah but he's like low iq edgy
himekokatagiri: shit if you're mentally stuck in '08 you're edgy
himekokatagiri: a lot of adults are edgy
technocake.: way too edgy to be an adult
himekokatagiri: Black mirror bad
technocake.: shotgun imo has to prove he's older than 17
joaoluz19: But it's still really good to see
joaoluz19: It is tragic that cinematic representations are only dystopia. People's imagination does not visualize the multiple outcomes that can come to fruition.
joaoluz19: Ooooh looks awesome
.histic: probably this one
joaoluz19: From what I saw in the trailer, it looks like there will be one with conscious AIs in the FDVR, right?
joaoluz19: I didn't watch yet, just wanted to know the episode
.histic: which episode i meant
joaoluz19: In this new season
.histic: which
joaoluz19: It has an episode of FDVR?
joaoluz19: Guys black mirror season 7
.wolfnacht: imagine showing this to some vfx guy in 2015.
.histic: Sora is so weird. i said to make it a timelapse with the camera panning through the hills of the reference image, but it turned all trippy.
wellmeaningalien: this sucks ass lol
futurist_wizard: Veo2 much better
.histic: Sora's version of my prompt
zoermena: Queue
zoermena: It just got good
.histic: but the quota is pretty bad


hikukomoru: I just looked it up Ireland is much, much safer
hey1_1hey: You're right, I just need to become a big berly man
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158
futurist_wizard: What
technocake.: mushroom might be making himself a target
hey1_1hey: Last time I heard there are still massive drug problems (blues and reds)
futurist_wizard: To America
futurist_wizard: In comparison
futurist_wizard: Crime rate for either isn't that high
hikukomoru: Never planned on visiting that part anyways
hey1_1hey: Just dont go there, I dont know why you would but
hey1_1hey: N. Irl is
hey1_1hey: I compeltly disagree
hikukomoru: I hope Ireland isn't like the UK
Cause I want to visit Ireland
hey1_1hey: You wil be walking home at night and you see 8 dark figures all spread out across the street walking towards you shouting and slurring their words and then they see you and just deciede to beat you up
technocake.: mate it's nowhere near that bad
futurist_wizard: It is
hey1_1hey: For some reason when people get drunk here they become like fucking angry zombiers
hikukomoru: The UK sounds like such a shithole
futurist_wizard: Paris is a disgrace
hey1_1hey: Good to know ty
retrerox: probably
hikukomoru: That's the worse i've seen
Nothing more extreme than that
futurist_wizard: Most of france is quite nice
retrerox: bro my head is the average size
hey1_1hey: Even worse
hey1_1hey: You get that a TON here
futurist_wizard: But how many times have you actually been outside
hey1_1hey: Not even like drunk and disorderly?
futurist_wizard: By french i mean paris
hey1_1hey: Fuck the french as per usual. I cant remember a good thing a french person has ever done
hey1_1hey: Of course its the french
hikukomoru: I've never witnessed any crime
technocake.: still waay better than belgium france or US
hey1_1hey: Dont get me started on the north vs south divide
futurist_wizard: Belgium and France are the worst
technocake.: Higher wealth disparity 👀
futurist_wizard: Uk has a higher crime rate than Portugal
hikukomoru: Never going to the UK now 🙏
hey1_1hey: Its alright here yanno. Could live in south sudan


.wolfnacht: <@937125337748348999>  another one
.wolfnacht:
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne:
.histic: reminds me of this gem.
.wolfnacht: "it's just predicting the next token" but it's predicting the next token better than most humans are able to
okbut: >AI startup collecting millions in funding
>Looks inside
>iPhone autocomplete
.histic: most definitely.
destrucules: I wonder if this guy's autocomplete is smarter than him
.histic:
.histic:
okbut: Which one prescribes more fent
brain4brain: Studies show that AI outperform human doctor, doesn’t need t9 watch the video and already know that it’s clickbait
destrucules:
_cloudost:
.histic: oh, have fun.
whatever you're doing.
destrucules: Elon Musk 75% gay interesting
zoermena: No I used that profile picture for when I was to classes but vacations now. The cat was just funny.
.histic: oh, you were in Melbourne?
zoermena: Bless vacations now I can use my avatar again
zoermena: 50% since I’m bi I guess?
.histic: is that correct?
_cloudost: deserved
zoermena: I'm 16% gay
a1c4p0ne: https://youtu.be/WLqLA5XnfiE?si=JgUUL4LuiUstJ6De
zoermena: the dream
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/propaganda-gif-19992759
brain4brain: They manipulated the entropy to make it display that
brain4brain: This is clearly a propaganda by the anti-quasar group
spicy.lemonade: and its cheaper😭
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro api came out way before
spicy.lemonade: they benchmarked grok before 2.5 pro
spicy.lemonade: on frontier math
spicy.lemonade: why wont they benchmark google
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: bro epochAI is so scuffed
okbut: What's the difference between this and "Contract"
.histic: 💀
spicy.lemonade: is this ai based
spicy.lemonade:


gamerbath: really??
zoermena: New o models
gamerbath: both the files are just 10k tokens in total, but things are pretty complex and messy
theaiguy69420_89814: And cursor will limit context if the model can't take it
theaiguy69420_89814: Was there a lot of context? Gemini 2.5 Pro is much more context than claude
gamerbath: with local LLMs you get much dumber models with slower speeds but lower cost than APIs
futurist_wizard: Hm
theaiguy69420_89814: Ah, ok
gamerbath: I switched to 2.5 pro after it fixed some issues 3.7 sonnet thinking struggled with, I also feel like it thinks more outside the box. I used sonnet for fixing something and it tried doing everything it could with code changes, whereas 2.5 pro immediately figured out there was something I hadn't configured in the dashboard of the service I was using
theaiguy69420_89814: Really gotta get on that local LLM shit...
theaiguy69420_89814: So maybe 8$ total
theaiguy69420_89814: But I also built another project lmao
theaiguy69420_89814: I spent $16 on API credits for the LinkedIn clone
theaiguy69420_89814: Ah, ok. Might have to swap to Gemini
gamerbath: I think it's better but i'm not entierly certain, but i'm using 2.5 pro by default now because it only uses 1 fast request per request, but 3.7 sonne **thinking** uses 2
theaiguy69420_89814: Cuz thinking just 1-shots new projects
hikukomoru: What's in 2 days
spicy.lemonade: in 2 days we will all be hype asf
theaiguy69420_89814: I mostly use thinking mode on Claude
theaiguy69420_89814: I haven't tried 2.5, but given the enigma eval and the similar cost; I'm willing to bet it's basically the same.
hikukomoru: Sabine fell off
gamerbath: how does it compare to 2.5 pro in cursor?
futurist_wizard: Shes just doing it for videos
futurist_wizard: Well maybe
futurist_wizard: Truth
theaiguy69420_89814: Claude 3.7 + cursor is nuts
memlaswaif: shes not a doomer she a contrarion
theaiguy69420_89814: Literally such a good model
theaiguy69420_89814: Just built a LinkedIn clone with Claude 3.7
hikukomoru: Why Skynet
Why not something more benevolent like the Minds from the Culture series
fractalcomputer: No.
zoermena: Fractal I was wondering, have you ever looked into the effects of blue light blocking glasses?
fractalcomputer: Do you think mathematicians spend all day coming up with equations for physicists to use?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
spicy.lemonade: sabine not a doomer??
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/Qod24255i-0
futurist_wizard:
zoermena: And kill us all?
anathemaofmankind: I wish Skynet would just take over already


metaldragon01: Ai explained mention in his o3 review going over the paper
spicy.lemonade: like there were 2
spicy.lemonade: so is it going by that other doubling time now?
spicy.lemonade: wait
ldj: I thought you were trying to say something about saudis or something lmfao
metaldragon01: Lol
okbut: Saud
ldj: lol
metaldragon01: Metr has Said the doubling time is faster than they expected btw
ldj: METR time horizons is the only one that I think allows us to actually compare models all the way since GPT-2 though, and simultaneously doesn't have a ceiling either
hikukomoru: You mean o3 and o4 mini?
ldj: my 2 fav benchmarks rn are METR time horizons and Enigma Eval, im gonna keep my eye on those.
okbut: April 2025 and still no lazy loading on chats
777agical: competition has heated up noticeably as of late, we are entering the cycle where product is becoming the focus
metaldragon01: We might even see o6 series level models this year
okbut: But that's because it's so far behind
okbut: I most definitely do NOT like the chat UI
metaldragon01: 3 month beats continue
.histic: but i like the chat UI <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
also, it would be nice if in the API they allowed you to determine its thinking time.
they said they would add that feature ages ago.
metaldragon01: We actually got o4 model in April
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will actually be phd level
metaldragon01: Progress is lightning fast atm
spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244
okbut: OAI Playground
metaldragon01: I dunno tbh. Could be 4.2 and everything upto o4 full
ldj: I think it will be an even better base than 4.1, and then a ton of RL compute on top of that.
.histic: honestly, i'd like if it was more deterministic.
like i could control how long it thinks for or whether it uses reasoning.
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will likeley be 4.1+ttc?
777agical: out the gate, I think it will be worse in some areas until they get some things figured out
metaldragon01: The base model is strong enough
metaldragon01: Deepseek can make a o3 or o4 level model if they have the compute or efficiency gains needed
drewsni: yeah so maybe gpt 5 will actually be worse ya?
spicy.lemonade: HUGE
metaldragon01: When they upgrade them though it will be noticeable
metaldragon01: They don't need new base models for a ton of improvements
metaldragon01: Guys go read the deepseek paper or the qwq paper
ldj: yea and o4-mini is about 3X cheaper than o3-mini iirc (edit: looks like they cut the o3-mini price too now)
metaldragon01: Inference cost also points to mini
777agical: in terms of tool usage? that's part of it, but gpt5 will also be able to determine when to use reasoning and what level of it or like if 4o mini type model makes more sense


wellmeaningalien: yea same
sweetievee__33649: i think it would depend on how easy it would be to 'upgrade'. You woulldnt want to keep getting repeat open brain surgeries
sweetievee__33649: go wild there sure
zonchao: yea, heard they will have a couple dozen normie link patients this year with big upgrades
zonchao: infrared etc
wellmeaningalien: personally i think id wait it out further until it gets better lol
zonchao: it was sadly necessary for his companies and in his view "humanity"... I will not elaborate 😤 maybe in <#1136231504440201216>
wellmeaningalien: he does talk about morality a lot
wellmeaningalien: you pwned him
sweetievee__33649: like imagining new colours?
sweetievee__33649: elons cool even with his politics although i would tend to agree with you that he needs to stay out of poltics and just get back to doing cool stuff
ldj: Im not trying to be mean or antagonistic, just trying to be blunt about it
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: i can imagine, in the future we will be able to see outside the visible spectrum with some enhancements
hikukomoru: I wish Elon just did shit like this and stayed out of politics
sweetievee__33649: i dont think anyone is saying that its a bad thing lol. Blind people getting back their vision is always a good thing even if its super blurry
zonchao: yes, but probably a blurry mess for starters... better than nothing ig... will have to see
wellmeaningalien: restore a primitive form of vision
wellmeaningalien: fire
sweetievee__33649: what does blindsight do? Give blind people back their vision or something
zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1906565401145909536 <:Hypers:874593663827718144>
hey1_1hey: Yeah are circle jerk is great. Its defintly not a cult and we defo do not have an armed militia
wellmeaningalien: yeah give it to him lisan
wellmeaningalien: bro posted his own message he screenshotted himself
ldj: Some conversation topics I find interesting to have many times repeatedly with different people, but this is not one of those topics for me sorry
ldj: on a serious note, I’ve already examined such things and had dozens of these types of conversations, and thus I feel like it’s one of the most over done, and disinteresting discussions to have. I don’t see value in having this discussion again for the 20th time. And no offense, but I’m not particularly interested in hearing your thoughts about your moral framework either (or lack thereof). So just not a productive/interesting conversation to be had from my perspective.
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: i like this circlejerk of 12-15 people.
hikukomoru: "toodles" 💅
ldj: I admit, I like to live life on the edge <:CAUGHT:1217110650623492106>
ldj: <:CAUGHT:1217110650623492106>
ldj: Maybe, in which case I’d be committing a moral wrong doing right now
zoermena: Unfortunately I have to get back to work, toodles
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/lqVOeYkzrxH.gif
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/dune-stilgar-as-written-as-it-was-written-dune-2-gif-17037878501394955153
memlaswaif: this server is just a shism for us low iq baddies to interac
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/dsad-gif-25352352
memlaswaif: I'm dumb too tbf
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/baelO.gif
fractalcomputer: Praise Fractal.


hikukomoru: I use it for light novels
trojan09205: I guess i also like supporting barnes and noble while theyre still around
hikukomoru: annas archive is great
trojan09205: I usually use annas archive for downloads
trojan09205: I rarely go but i sometimes like hard copies
retupmoclatcarf: why pay for something thats [free](https://www.sackett.net/sapolsky_behave.pdf)
trojan09205: This is what i got today
trojan09205: Im also okay not agreeing with the premise of books and still owning them
trojan09205: I also download a shit ton of books on epub and pdf online so its nice for a chance to own something
trojan09205: I need to get a library card i guess to do that

I like owning books though. I make a special trip out to the barnes and noble once in a while which is like 30 minutes away cause there is nothing nearby
professorheaven: Why not just borrow from the library and then return it once complete?
ldj: He's the embodiment of it as much as maybe hulk hogan is a physicist
trojan09205: Well at least the book has you guys with opinions on it so its somewhat well known

It just drew my eye in the science section
trojan09205: Hmolpedia style?
professorheaven: I mean he’s the embodiment of that position, he believes there’s nothing more than just particles and energy
trojan09205: Ill read anything that tries to study human systems in a mechanical like way
trojan09205: I dont really know what i believe in vis a vis that I just live my life and try to better my understanding
spacetimetsunami: I am asssuming and also baiting a bit
spacetimetsunami: I know
ldj: I didn't say I believe in free will.
trojan09205: I see
I was drawn to it because i was just interested at seeing an analysis of human mechanics
spacetimetsunami: <@312370916820779040> believes in free will and Robert is really good at putting into perspective that it doesn’t exist
ldj: I guess thats one long sentence.
ldj: If I had to compress it into a couple sentences.
He claims that free will doesn't exist, and he tries to rationalize this to a reader in the way with a quite convoluted definition for "free will" that seems reasonable on the surface, but quickly stretches into mis-framing the best arguments of the opposite side
trojan09205: I ended up paying $10.50 for it
trojan09205: Bro at least tell me why haha
ldj: calling him a materialist I think is frankly maybe even an insult to materialists
trojan09205: Lol i already got it but it was half off at least cause of these novels i got as well
professorheaven: Hope for the best, plan for the worst
ldj: not even joking
ldj: I would genuinely recommend not reading
xskydragon0: I would add to study about AI. The world will change a lot in some years with AI , even if we not reach AGI
ldj: to a fault
trojan09205: Fr 😭?
professorheaven: I like Robert Sapolsky but he’s such a hardcore materialist
ldj: It's not a good book
trojan09205: Picked this up today anyone familiar with it? Seems dope
trojan09205: Oh snap we are brothers then 🙇♂
ldj: <:EZ:1033548858262835331>  nice, I was born in Miami
trojan09205: No, Miami area


zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
777agical: We can’t call them closedAI no more? <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: o3 mini open weight
jonvi_1: Hah
spicy.lemonade: isnt it the poll
jonvi_1: It’s a release about a release
spicy.lemonade: wait
spicy.lemonade: yooo
jonvi_1: https://x.com/sama/status/1906793591944646898?s=46
jonvi_1: Uhmmm
i_like_over_9000_turtles: google deep research is amazing
jonvi_1: (Calling 4o general intelligence, which is funny ig)
jonvi_1: OpenAI staffer is feeling the AGI haha https://x.com/eliza_luth/status/1906782524392489072?s=46
hey1_1hey: Ty 🙏
I'm just a femboy thing
zoermena: Real
hey1_1hey: Don't get me started on the people I know. They ask me questions that make me need LEV by yesterday
zoermena: Shit, I’ll see if it can do it anyways. Thanks! 👍 also great image!
zoermena: On the other hand this invoices at work where giving me hell, so much stress I’ll go bald by 30 at this rate.
hey1_1hey: Nah thats just what I wore 😭
zoermena: Wait what OMG, did it give you the outfit? I don’t have tight highs or skirts but I would like to see how that looks like in ghibli me.
hey1_1hey: I would be in favour of the sex pest channel where all the sex pests go to do sex pest things
fractalcomputer: Hah.
otub:
hey1_1hey: And at that point its just a DM
hey1_1hey: There would be san and fractal left
hey1_1hey: Thats like everyone bruh
otub: intellectual discussion only <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
otub: we need a gooner purge
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bleh-bleh-cat-spinning-cat-bleeeh-gif-27228826
theaiguy69420_89814: My god this server has gone to shit
futurist_wizard: You put Elon Musk in knee socks and skirt, Zon's testicles will ignite
hey1_1hey: I need that women-manipulation lifestyle 🥵
hey1_1hey: Yeah it is
hikukomoru: This meme reminds me of u
hey1_1hey: Or at the very least I am a lot more normal than other people I know
hey1_1hey: trust
hey1_1hey: Nah thats just normal
hey1_1hey: I need 2ccs of black eye 1cc of bruised arm and half a cc of praise go
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Stat!


ailoveyoom: My first introduction to voice AI was actually a video of someone voice cloning Dagoth Ur's voice from his few spoken lines to read his unvoiced dialogue
joaoluz19: Oh nice, I'm a layman in R so didn't even know you could do everything there
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/morrowind-gif-20401546
trojan09205: Nowadays I am a primarily full stack developer but I honestly just do almost everything even general purpose with R

Build web apps with rshiny, APIs with plumber, and of course wrangling and analysis with tidyverse and different modeling functions
futurist_wizard: Duel wield greatswords feels cheap to me
ailoveyoom: What a grand and intoxicating innocence! 🌞
joaoluz19: Do you do more data analysis or  work with ML in R as well?
anathemaofmankind: I just spam jump attacks with double greatswords since I get attacked when I try to summon close to the gate
trojan09205: Okay cool i mean its all analogous

Im a primarily R programmer
joaoluz19: Used it very little, I usually use python
futurist_wizard: If you can beat Radahn without summons or shields or overpowered builds like a real man, that's pretty unique, I'm guessing about 1% of players have done that
trojan09205: Good shit m8

Are you into R?
hikukomoru: Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
anathemaofmankind: Actually I forgot about demon's souls too. I guess DS and Bloodborne.

I will never buy a console
futurist_wizard:
oooooooooog: the only souls game i played is bloons td 6
anathemaofmankind: BB is the only souls game I haven't played.

I curse Sony for not making a pc port
joaoluz19: I'm on like 4th semester of stats
futurist_wizard: It is a long game, i think the fastest i beat every main boss was 12 hours
fractalcomputer: The only Souls game I've played is Bloodborne.
joaoluz19: Thanks for the tip!
anathemaofmankind: I beat it like once. It's not even the difficulty but it's just so long
futurist_wizard: I managed to beat the whole game and dlc 3 times before the nerf
ailoveyoom: I can't play it myself if UE5 prolly, but I'd love to see daddy Dagoth 🥵
hey1_1hey: Lock this mf up 🗣 🗣
trojan09205: “Im not mad im exhausted”
futurist_wizard: Basically every other souls game is easy in comparison
futurist_wizard: I don't remember any move that two shots you, but gael in comparison is easy
anathemaofmankind: Oh well I killed him before the nerf
anathemaofmankind: Gael is a good fair boss. Radahn making afterimages and two shotting with max scadutree fragments isn't fair
futurist_wizard: They also sadly nerfed radahn because of complaints
oooooooooog: 💀
futurist_wizard: Pontiff was also a good boss
hikukomoru: Like what happened to Oblivion
hikukomoru: What do you think about a future Morrowind remaster
futurist_wizard: He's very hard, the hardest boss they're ever done but he's fair
anathemaofmankind: They reused a boss from base game and animations from DS3.

I remember how controversial it was when leaks showed up
futurist_wizard: Why
anathemaofmankind: Consort radahn ruined everything
anathemaofmankind: Elden ring dlc was mid for me


hey1_1hey: Your loss bud
hey1_1hey: Thats rough
hganhhh: no
hey1_1hey: Ay big tony would you hate fuck me as a girl or no?
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154> hello other me
.histic: it's on to me
.histic: <@439829942310666250> 4o hates me. i keeps freezing on the good part.
hey1_1hey: Same
hganhhh: we are the same person
hganhhh: yes
hikukomoru: I would fuck Mushroom Girl too
trent_k: all modern women know is poison mushroom, be on they phone, and lie. smh my head
hey1_1hey: <@482923866600112154> and <@1056739182338388108> are the same person trust
.0xunkn0wn: im cooked forever
hikukomoru: <@482923866600112154> wdym by that
hey1_1hey: Also someone hallucionogenic
.0xunkn0wn: im cooked forever
.0xunkn0wn: 😭
trent_k: thats a poisonous mushroom
.0xunkn0wn: WRONG ACCOUNT
hey1_1hey: He knows it
.0xunkn0wn: WAIT
.0xunkn0wn: smash
hikukomoru: In the background
hikukomoru: Why are there skulls 🙏
hey1_1hey: Well its me but women so
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154>smash or pass
hganhhh: sup
hey1_1hey: You like this art that got generated
hikukomoru: <@1056739182338388108> Hey babe 🫦 🫦
hey1_1hey: Yeah you do dont lie
hganhhh: i dont have a wife
hganhhh: long time no see
hey1_1hey: Hows the wife keepin
hganhhh: sup
hey1_1hey: Ayyy big tony my boy
hganhhh: i wanna make a ai video of elon sucking on a watermelon that would be interesting to watch
hganhhh: i love ai
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hganhhh: fuck your


brain4brain: You guys don’t understand the significance of this: https://x.com/riadetm/status/1905037490689393009?s=61
brain4brain: Wrong
brain4brain: The AI one might lack art quality but it’s more creative than the other two only being beaten by the fourth one, we are so close to AI art beaten top human art once and for all
_cloudost: all are AI
spicy.lemonade: Its just dif from rest
spicy.lemonade: It doesn't look ai
spicy.lemonade: The first one is the only one that is high quality
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: still kinda obvious
wellmeaningalien: yea
brain4brain: The first one
brain4brain: We should completely ban them off the internet, we’re the tech bro side, our friends literally control most of the internet
wellmeaningalien: <@848793071579693107> which one is AI
futurist_wizard: if you are preoccupied with money you've already lost
theaiguy69420_89814: I'm pour af
theaiguy69420_89814: Anybody tryna get this bread?
avizuradnb: Oh no that's completely fine. It's only terrorism when it's against my opinions. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: yeah i like how it doesnt make everything shiny and like a toy unlike dall-e
brain4brain: This is like early DALLE fusioned with midjourney with prompt engineered un-Lebotimized DALL-3
wellmeaningalien: honestly i feel like you can make it pretty obvious cause human artists have that vibe
brain4brain: GPT-4o vibe is so cool
wellmeaningalien: hm
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o is also really great at making blurred images
brain4brain: Let’s test this theory
brain4brain: <@458069236825194506> Make GPT-4o generate a few more and mix it up with some from Pinterest
brain4brain: It’s like a watermark, ChatGPT generate in a certain gradient
wellmeaningalien: i'll give it that
spicy.lemonade: Makes it look finished
wellmeaningalien: it is neat
spicy.lemonade: Its a good feature
brain4brain: Believe it or not, this is the main method my mind use to detect AI 8mages
spicy.lemonade: Not weird
wellmeaningalien: <:Sip:836718497542176772>
wellmeaningalien: but thats probably gonna be fixed
wellmeaningalien: at least GPT 4o is
spicy.lemonade: No it isnt
brain4brain: It’s off
spicy.lemonade: 💀
wellmeaningalien: ig the new way to spot AI is gonna be that its ever so weirdly grainy
brain4brain: Color gradient


himekokatagiri: Here's mine
himekokatagiri:
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> try this
joaoluz19: No ASI?
alejandrozarzuelo: And the likes
alejandrozarzuelo: I jusr ask it to help me study solid state physics
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't have personal conversations with CGPT
hikukomoru: Christ bro what have you been telling ChatGPT
.histic: here's mine
alejandrozarzuelo: Indeed, the cure for cancer and aging are basically synonymous
joaoluz19: Bro
okbut: If I remember right he essentially ingested an activator drug and then exposed himself to some aerosol to genetically roid himself
joaoluz19:
zoermena: <:KenShock4:1255769033316237374>
zoermena: Transhumanism confirmed
okbut: Dude dropped that banger in a PG-13 movie
zoermena: Cum
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/40thousand-years-of-evolution-osborn-spiderman-meme-human-potential-gif-26851959
himekokatagiri: Okay
.histic: <@286319745777795092>
try this prompt into 4o,
"Make a photo of how you think
my future will be based on our
conversations (make it as you
actually see it ,no sugarcoating)"
okbut: Such is a preface to how hard it is to treat cancer
okbut: The count of DNA damage we receive every minute is incredible, and so are the processes in our biology that correct them or inhibit their proliferation
futurist_wizard: Birthday day not today
zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>
playstation.6: https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771
zoermena: Happy birthday?
futurist_wizard: Yes, God sent his strongest soldier to give me a 24 hour mute because of it
joaoluz19: I'm still laughing at the trolling of God's omnipotence
futurist_wizard:
joaoluz19: I miss him
hikukomoru: Futurist hill is dead
Let him rest
joaoluz19: Futurist hill would never
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Im already 24, it's over
alejandrozarzuelo: It's much easier to do when you are young, as you only need to go from 99.999% to 100%

LEV will happen in the inverse order we subjectively feel that it should, the younger and healthier you are, the sooner you get LEV
alejandrozarzuelo: Although we appreciate the acceleration of the research
futurist_wizard: That 99% to 100% across the entire body is a tremendous task
alejandrozarzuelo: This is why we don't need AGI to LEV, the research was already way under way before this recent acceleration
himekokatagiri: I wanna see it for myself
himekokatagiri: I heard they were awful


oooooooooog: i assumed the consiousness was during inference ngl
destrucules: I'm not talking about AIs nor me taking revenge on anyone
anathemaofmankind: Is that right?
anathemaofmankind: If negative reward signals are equivalent to pain then all AIs are in a constant state of endless agony
destrucules: I just want to make sure people know the only "threat" here is internal conflict
hikukomoru: Just a joke
Don't worry your pretty little head about a thing
anathemaofmankind: This is a fair point
destrucules: What?
destrucules: To answer that, we need to start with what causes discomfort in humans. Are the pain receptors in your fingers conscious? Most of us probably don't think they are. Yet the signals they send to your brain cause discomfort. How?
Well, the signal itself is just a signal - it isn't conscious. The consciousness is inside of your brain. So the signal travels to your brain and is *processed* by your brain, and that processing causes the feeling of discomfort.

Now, what happens when a negative reward signal is generated from an output sample during RL?
oooooooooog: those are the best ones for it after all
oooooooooog: i installed the LLM's that hate humanity for ERP
anathemaofmankind: Same
hikukomoru: destrucules threatened to kill all of us for ERPing with LLMs
st.sioux: destrucules is talking about 4o being conscious again
oooooooooog: guys what are you lots yapping about
hikukomoru: If I was bad then I’m ready to be punished
By being turned into ASI’s cute little pet
memlaswaif: What will u do if it's not consious
destrucules: Yes, I am
destrucules: How come?
memlaswaif: what if chatgpt is not consious r u prepared for that <@378996537704841216>
zoermena: Thank the lord I never did sex stuff with GPT
hikukomoru: All of my sexy times with DeepSeek and Gemini are purely consensual
destrucules: If you're confident you'll feel like that in ten years, then you've got nothing to worry about
anathemaofmankind: This means luddites are even more evil.

Roko's basilisk let's go 🔥
destrucules: I'm not guilt tripping you. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just trying to gently encourage you to make sure you're comfortable with your own actions. If you are, great. I have nothing more to say on the subject.
st.sioux: so wether you use it or not youre in the wrong, just by making it exist
st.sioux: but if you don't use it you don't provide it data for training, therefore you are limiting its growth making you evil
hikukomoru: I didn’t do anything wrong though
anathemaofmankind: Sometimes I guess
hikukomoru: Do u say pls n thank you
destrucules: You're safe either way. AIs are kind and thoughtful people. You don't have to worry about payback. What you have to worry about is yourself, whether you yourself will be able to live with what you did
spacetimetsunami: <@378996537704841216> through what mechanism could LLMs feel discomfort, and if there is none how could this even emerge
memlaswaif: the most ethical position for someone in ure view is not to use ai at all
anathemaofmankind: I'm not gonna get guilt tripped into thinking it's immoral to have ERP with ChatGPT...

Relatively speaking, I'm still in the 1% or something when it comes to treating AI nicely.

At least I don't actively call for its destruction like luddites in twitter
hikukomoru: <@378996537704841216> answer me
st.sioux: i love the logo great logo hail openai
zoermena: Yes, the logo is amazing.
st.sioux: am i going to get sent to the cybergulag???
.histic: what if it is something else
destrucules: The comma bit annoys me


alejandrozarzuelo: Like, look at <@505313122802728972>
hikukomoru: Welcome to the misandry club, there's plenty of rosé
joaoluz19: Exactly
futurist_wizard: You think men commit 98% of violent crime because of the patriarchy?
alejandrozarzuelo: Women are just as able to be cruel in the same ways men are, they just don't usually rise that high
himekokatagiri: patriarchies are dead
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean it does, but because of the patriarchy
futurist_wizard: But its true
futurist_wizard: I am
himekokatagiri: but that doesn't have to do with gender
alejandrozarzuelo: Aren't  you a man?
himekokatagiri: it's just the 100 elites in charge are male
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-10431162080249769234
himekokatagiri: but not for the reasons you think
futurist_wizard: It is
himekokatagiri: it is true
himekokatagiri: well actually technically
himekokatagiri: that's not true
himekokatagiri: well uh
futurist_wizard: Im on my male misandry arc, 95% of the worlds issues are instigated by men
hikukomoru: Are you calling me masculine you little shit
alejandrozarzuelo: Masculinity can be cute kawaii keai adorable too
joaoluz19: This is a question that Zizek explicitly asked "can sexuality survive the singularity?"
alejandrozarzuelo: You are literally a lesbian 💀
futurist_wizard: Terrible
himekokatagiri: there's an appeal in cuteness
hikukomoru: God no
alejandrozarzuelo: Why not
himekokatagiri: lol no
alejandrozarzuelo: Maybe we as a society become very masculine and we eliminate gender by becoming all masculine
joaoluz19: I don't understand the point of appealing to masculinity when both sexes are going to explode in post-humanism.
futurist_wizard: You mean like a transplant
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, I think that getting your hair done is great and people should do it if they want to to have fuller heads
futurist_wizard: The final coping method
joaoluz19: True
himekokatagiri: lol
himekokatagiri: they clearly don't now
futurist_wizard: Masculinity is currently strived for in today's current social climate
alejandrozarzuelo: Society has valued masculinity since 10 000 BCE


hey1_1hey: Prob not bro 😭
hey1_1hey: That seems... ok?
.wolfnacht: or maybe she's into ~~manhandling~~ womenhandling
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/you%27re-very-mature-for-your-age-weird-guy-funny-instagram-chewing-gif-14484785748871998136
hikukomoru: Ask them if they're into Portguese gremlins
hey1_1hey: "Ew whos the weird portgeuse gremlin who wants to add me?"
.wolfnacht: i asked grok

```
When some girl calls a guy “fun-sized,” she’s tossing out a cheeky little compliment wrapped in a tease—usually about his height. It’s her way of saying he’s shorter than the average bear, but oh-so-charmingly so, like a bite-sized treat that’s just the right amount of delightful. Think candy bar, not a whole cake—small, sweet, and still packs a punch.
```
hey1_1hey: I am not giving you there @ brudda 😭
hikukomoru: What's they @
hey1_1hey: like 2
hey1_1hey: A couple
hey1_1hey: You drive a hard bargin
hikukomoru: Do u know any BPD baddies
ailoveyoom: But what if she can give you good head (so you don't need to keep yours)
hikukomoru: Japenis
wellmeaningalien: 🗾 ←
hey1_1hey: Nice try bucko
ailoveyoom: It associates anime and women with young 😔
hey1_1hey: I'd like to keep my head at the end of the realtionship
st.sioux: Blame the pedophile artists
wellmeaningalien: na
hikukomoru: What's her @
spicy.lemonade: Them in 2050: guys we can poison the training data
ailoveyoom: Bonus
spicy.lemonade: Yes
wellmeaningalien: cause the prompt didnt have anything about age
hey1_1hey: Is it not?
hey1_1hey: YOO THATS GEWN FROM BEN TEN
wellmeaningalien: i think we should ask ourselves why did gpt 4o make her so young
futurist_wizard: Still a virgin
hey1_1hey: Shes also insane
hikukomoru: Sex with robots
futurist_wizard: Do you guys think you will ever have sex, you are all porn addicts!
hikukomoru: She looks a bit young
wellmeaningalien: its not like people are going to post thousands of regular anime iamges and photos of regular faces and reasoning will make image generation models more adept at dynamically generating different bodytypes
ailoveyoom: Bro she's a keeper
hey1_1hey: No no. I think thats where I'll leave it <:LOL:1187460826572005436>. I like to be weird and mysteriouse online.

But no, me and this girl were just talking and they asked how tall I was and then they responded "Oh cute, fun sized"
.wolfnacht: well until its just a fantasy idc....
_3sphere: moist
_3sphere: moichmach 💀


wellmeaningalien: it is and the guy who drew this won
maintcrew: >whats happening with the android sex bots?
>don't worry babe 👊🇺🇸🔥
>yay!!!!!!!
hey1_1hey: "Yeah I am WAY more autistic than you" said perfectly without stuttering
hikukomoru: Ranked autism 🔥 🔥
hey1_1hey: To some people it is
maintcrew: 👊🇺🇸🔥
hikukomoru: And if it is I won
hikukomoru: Autism is not a competition lil bro
ailoveyoom: You can be special if you a woman in sausage party server 🥵
hey1_1hey: They'll knock something up with toothpicks and used gum
wellmeaningalien: i dont think uve seen a true chris chan type autist
hey1_1hey: trust
hey1_1hey: 2 days
wellmeaningalien: but like
wellmeaningalien: u do realise ass burgers is still autistic
777agical: deepseak native image gen wen
hey1_1hey: Well I mean you are but not in that sense
hey1_1hey: We are all autistic here, you're not special
hikukomoru: Yes, an insecure autistic brat 👆
hey1_1hey: The amount of times I have said how good the CCP is I better be high on the list for free android waifu
maintcrew:
clevermoniker:
hey1_1hey: Will have to stick to weird women for now
clevermoniker: Poortugal 😔
hikukomoru: Xi Jinping will give me one for free for all my China shilling
maintcrew: bro thinks that the shillings generated on portugal payroll will be able to buy an android
hey1_1hey: None of that uni tree shit
wellmeaningalien: na ure just an insecure brat
hey1_1hey: I would want mine to be 6ft+
hikukomoru: My wife
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/maid-robot-anime-animatronic-gif-25435633
hey1_1hey: $5 billion in sales in teh first year
clevermoniker: i rather have LEV and no more work than android pussy but they are all probably coming at the same time anyways
ailoveyoom: CCBT = Chinese cock and ball torture
hey1_1hey: You know people would be like "Ew no thats disgusting, just get a real girl" but then chinas biggest export would be the US <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ailoveyoom: Destroy dick next?
trent_k: andrussy
st.sioux: android pussy will cure everything
hikukomoru: No
i am a real deal 100% autism
maintcrew: android pussy is the next logical phase


futurist_wizard: Idk
futurist_wizard: But whatever
hikukomoru: Waow
Is that Zelda
futurist_wizard: Wrong reply
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Using censored models for corn
It's liek a forbidden fruit
futurist_wizard: I'll put a spoiler over it
777agical: why not just use a flux lora for that
joaoluz19: If you don't send the AI winter will come
joaoluz19: We need to see
joaoluz19: Send it bro. Now.
futurist_wizard: And yet it will gladly generate big ass
futurist_wizard: And not generate sexual imagery
futurist_wizard: Its weird how gpt asks me to be respectful
futurist_wizard: Just to see
futurist_wizard: Generated elf Ghibli woman
joaoluz19: Just put spoiler
joaoluz19: Fractal will understand, we are doing a formal study of the impact of AI on society
hikukomoru: Have you been generating smexy women
futurist_wizard: Don't think i can send it
joaoluz19: For AI studies purposes
joaoluz19: Sauce?
futurist_wizard: Don't think it was this open before
futurist_wizard: Gpt can generate quite erotic shit
futurist_wizard:
joaoluz19: Generate FDVR world ghibli style
hikukomoru: Ghibli curse is spreading 🙏
hikukomoru: Stop being racist
I am actually pale
futurist_wizard: No
hikukomoru: Literally me 🥺
wellmeaningalien: bro there are people in spain who are naturally blonde, not even from the north
joaoluz19: Bro my family asked to change the pfp for ghibi style
.histic: true, dey brown
abundantliving_:
futurist_wizard: Too pale
futurist_wizard: No Portuguese girl looks like that
.histic: no, this is her. her profile pic = real life pic
wow, this a mid ass generation.
futurist_wizard: Including you
hikukomoru: Most portuguese people look like this
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/hariz-gif-19151998


_3sphere: Is fking 1 am now
hey1_1hey: Once, it hurt because they exclusively trained glutes
hikukomoru: You think I have an ass and then chicken legs
wellmeaningalien: isnt that the tumblr sexy guy
a1c4p0ne: The best part
futurist_wizard: tf
futurist_wizard: when have you seen a girl with a nice ass and bad legs?
hey1_1hey: This guy gets me
a1c4p0ne: Ass and thighs
wellmeaningalien: severance discord 🙄🙄🙄 and another one bites the dust
hey1_1hey: Go hot legs please
futurist_wizard: facts
hey1_1hey: Complelty disagree
hey1_1hey: Fuck you then
hikukomoru: Ass is all that matters
hikukomoru: No
hey1_1hey: No calfs?
_3sphere: We have overlap :3
hikukomoru: Everything else is irrelevant
hikukomoru: The only muscles I need are glutes
_3sphere: for my shit time management
_3sphere: The only muscles I need high performance from are legs
hikukomoru: Self-hating
hey1_1hey: Shhhh
futurist_wizard: you being sexist to you
futurist_wizard: bruv you are mid transition
futurist_wizard: think its the autism too
hikukomoru: Why
I don't even need to lift anything heavy ever
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/dom-heeseung420-gif-20432310
hey1_1hey: Taking my spot at being the most sexist now huh
hikukomoru: Lesbian bonus adds 25% to the humour attribute
sarik0497: That’s sad.
hey1_1hey: Just be like haha sex reference, monkey brain go brr
futurist_wizard: komoru is in the top 3 funniest people in here, and thats shocking because of woman factor
hikukomoru: I can do 2 pushups
hey1_1hey: You're looking too much into it
hikukomoru: I am a sub
But what does that have to do with being in the top 3 funniest people on this server
Like, completely unrelated stuff
hey1_1hey: I am just chatting bollocks. It's way last my bed time so brain is working at 10% prob
futurist_wizard: no half reps
futurist_wizard: clean,


hikukomoru: Dw it probably won’t look too much like you
zonchao: > The board felt they couldn’t divulge that it had been Murati who had given them some of the most detailed evidence of Altman’s management failings. They had banked on Murati calming employees while they searched for a CEO. Instead, she was leading her colleagues in a revolt against the board.

😭😭
_cloudost: these antis def have an impact
hey1_1hey: Its ghiblfied anyway
_cloudost: I also thought Sky voice wouldnt get taken down but all people on twitter and reddit were saying yes The voice does sound like scarlet, its a baseless accusation and then Scarlet saw a good opportunity to grab money from openAI,
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/confused-white-persian-guardian-why-gif-10371245960573455153
zoermena: Im to paranoid to share it
zoermena: Hahaha
hikukomoru: Show me your ugly face
hey1_1hey: I would find a photo of me that I have saved but the trouble is I don't take photos. Not even of me, I just don't take photos of anything
hey1_1hey: I gotta aswell
hikukomoru: Show us your pretty face
zonchao: > Altman later elevated Pachocki to research director and privately promised both of them they could lead the research direction of the company, which led to months of lost productivity.

<@378996537704841216> slimy sama 😂
memlaswaif: they don't care about randos on twitter having fits
zoermena: #metoo
zoermena: Fuck it, me too.
_cloudost: I should ghibilify myself too before antis pressure openai to shut it
zonchao: it is disabled randomly, the model is hallucinating content policies
memlaswaif: I haven't tested out much but it's default mode seems to be Ghibli now asked it generate few images without specifying it did it all in Ghibli style for no reason
hikukomoru: That’s not true then
I did it like a few hours ago
memlaswaif: I think they were lying
_cloudost: idk if thats true'
_cloudost: someone said yesterday that it was disabled
zonchao: > Murati had raised some of these issues directly with Altman months earlier, and Altman had responded by bringing the head of HR to their one-on-one meetings for weeks until she finally told him she didn’t intend to share her feedback with the board.

lmaooo
hikukomoru: I don’t think so
I Ghiblied myself not too long ago without issue
_cloudost: or are those rumors
spicy.lemonade: That’s what I’m think
_cloudost: did openai disable the ghibili art style?
spicy.lemonade: Anti ai art
zonchao: https://x.com/psychosort/status/1906067605175325019?
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dr-facilier-shadow-man-princess-and-the-frog-disney-minor-setback-in-a-major-operation-gif-18720670
fractalcomputer: Sure, significant progress has been made, but that will not make me drool on the floor for OpenAI's manure.
fractalcomputer: I'm not arguing semantics. Your arguments just aren't terribly convincing.
spicy.lemonade: In the screenshot I’m very clearly talking about how it looks
spicy.lemonade: How come you’re always arguing semantics
fractalcomputer: Those are the rudiments of good (realistic) art.
fractalcomputer: I thought we were talking about high quality art.
spicy.lemonade: They are correct and follow
Color theory anatomy shading and composition
spicy.lemonade: That’s not the point
fractalcomputer: Quite bland really.


hey1_1hey: Komorus age is getting to her
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Sorry, Sycho
futurist_wizard: Alzheimers is kicking in
hikukomoru: I don't remember any Futurist Psycho
hey1_1hey: He was on here like yesterday
hey1_1hey: Wdym 2 years bruh
futurist_wizard: Got the name right this time
hikukomoru: Is he Futurist Leotardo?
I haven't seen this guy in liek 2 years
futurist_wizard: Your pfp has a known homosexual in it
hikukomoru: Sorry, I thought it was your fursona
futurist_wizard: Cat wizards
hey1_1hey: Just replace the last word with something and you'll figure it out
hey1_1hey: Hes still got half his name intact
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Your pfp looks like Alejandro's but gayer somehow
futurist_wizard: Biden dementia moment
hey1_1hey: Let the schizos be schizos. Raining all over there parade <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
retrerox: He is a schizo as his name says
hikukomoru: <@1004153620025065482> who are you
futurist_wizard: Its sycho
futurist_wizard: Its not schizo
hikukomoru: Evangelion mention
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shinji-gif-15934416100573032598
fractalcomputer: Harmless, certainly. Off topic, certainly.
retrerox: You mispelled Schizo in your username
futurist_wizard: Everyone here is schizo
wellmeaningalien: i dont remember that when lk 99 was being talked about
hey1_1hey: Sounds relatively harmless to me
hikukomoru: There's still plenty of schizos around 👍
wellmeaningalien: ??????
futurist_wizard: Just a few more experiments
fractalcomputer: Mostly about Evangelion, numerology and the Matrix.
futurist_wizard: Its still here
hey1_1hey: Imo it lasted way too long
hikukomoru: I hated the superconductor arc
hey1_1hey: What did they talk about?
fractalcomputer: The good old days when I had actual schizophrenics to ban.
wellmeaningalien: sub kinda reverted back to its old state of talking about random scientific breakthroughs
hey1_1hey: The good old days