The Miller Family; Other Miller Trees
Moishe Miller
Author: "Jeffrey Miller" <nucomm@ix.netcom.com> at INTERNET Date: 4/21/97 3:51 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller Family Geneology ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear Moishe: I have been interested in finding my family roots for a long while. I know that my grandfather (Henry E Miller born 1899 in Russia) immigrated from Russia (actually he and his brother were stowed away on a freight ship around 1920) to California by way of Canada. I have never met my grandfather, he died before I was born, but I am told that he was a Jew, and his father was sending (stowing away) a child or two every year to America as he could afford it. I know that my grandfather was one of seven including a pair of identical twins who never made it to the West. He had a grandmother named Abraham Mueller, I believe. They supposedly came from a town whose name when translated means "Jewtown". Do I need much more information? Thanks, Jeffrey Miller nucomm@ix.netcom.com

Author: etarnove@connectnet.com (Liz Tarnove) at INTERNET Date: 4/23/97 8:03 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Millers???? ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- I'm researching my family tree and found your page. I wonder if there's a connection. My grandfather was Max Miller. Born 1894, Immigrated 1905. His father's name was Velvel ( born circa 1866) and his mother Chana Berkowitz. Velvel's father was named Moishe. They lived, as far as I know, in Gac, a village near Lomza, Poland. Does any of this ring a bell? Liz etarnove@connectnet.com

Author: Cecelia A Clancy <cacst9+@pitt.edu> at INTERNET Date: 2/7/96 1:16 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Mu"ller/Mueller/Miller/Meller and Meder and Slovakia ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Hi Moishe, I too am a Mu"ller/Miller. My mother's maternal grandfather was named Johann Mu"ller and was born in Deckendorf (Deggendorf), in Lower Bavaria (where the Isar and the Donau meet -- the Isar is the little river flowing through Mu"nchen (Munich) that people ride flat log-rafts on in the summer and the Donau is the Danube). He was born Feb 12, 1860 and came to Pittsburgh in 1881. He had a rule that only German was to be spoken in the house and after having been in America for 19 years (according to the 1900 census) he was still not a US citizen while his wife was. Perhaps he could not or would not learn English, which was required for naturalization. But he later got his citizenship and from then on, conscientiously voted in every election. The polling places back then were always in barber shops according to my Gramma because women were not yet allowed to vote. His wife, whose maiden name was Meder, was from extreme eastern Slovakia and was born near Kaschau (Kosice, Kassa). Family stories say she had sisters but I don't know if they came to America or stayed in Slovakia. Their names are supposed to have been Nora, Leah, and Anna. (Her name was Maria.) Regards, Cecelia ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cecelia Clancy regular e-mail cacst9+@pitt.edu 424 S. Fairmount anonymous e-mail an383188@anon.penet.fi Pittsburgh, PA 15232-1101 voice +1 (412) 441-2231 USA

Author: "Dan Miller" <XB.DAN@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> at INTERNET Date: 2/11/96 12:03 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear Moishe, I read your message concerning Miller Family lineage. I do not know if this information is of use to you but if you see any connection between your efforts and my own to find our more about my family please let me know. My grandfather, Morris Miller emigrated to Fall River Mass in the late 1800's. He was a tailor. Within a few years after settling in Fall River he moved to Newport Rhode Island where he worked for the Army at Fort Adams. He was very active in the Jewish Community in Newport. I have a copy of his emigration permit which was signed by the King of Prussia. I know he had a strong German background and I suspect the what was then Prussia is probably now within the current boarders of modern Germany. My father told me that upon ariving on a boat in Newport Harbor he had some difficulty getting though the authorities in the U. S. and managed to "jump ship" and avoid the administrative delays. Can you give me any suggestions how I might proceed to get more information. My grandfather died during the early 1950's. He had sister who also settled in New England. I think it was is Boston. Regards, Dan Miller xb.dan@forsythe.stanford.edu

Author: novalink@netvision.net.il at INTERNET Date: 5/30/96 5:31 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: (Rena Novack) ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Shalom from Jerusalem, Any friend of Menachim's is a friend of ours, if not relative. Yes, we do have Mullers in our tree. My husbands great grandmother was Leah Muller married to Aharon Dovid Kornfeld, a Rav in Makow. Her father was Gavriel Muller Av Beit Din in Maatersdorf, brother of Nathan Muller who lived 1828-1891. Their father was Chaim son of Yaakov son of Yechiel son of Nathan born approx. 1700. Does any of this look familiar if so I'd love to see what you have as well. I have the aboves wives names as well if we're related. Truthfully, on this family I had concentrated mainly on the who descended straight from Rashi thru Rebbe Akiva Eger (Shlezinger family) if they too are related let me know. What sources have you been using in your search? What towns are you tracing? Do you have and Sifre Yichusin or family records? Waiting to hear back. Good Luck, Rena Novack Author: novalink@netvision.net.il at INTERNET Date: 6/8/96 2:25 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: RE: Re[2]: (Rena Novack) ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Shavua Tov Moishe, I don't know the years Leah Muller lived tho I have a picture of her and could find out since her daughter is still living (my husbands grandmother is in an old age home in Lakewood). She had 2 sisters and four brothers who I know of, her sisters were Machla and Pearl her brothers were:Adolph, Yisroel, Yoel and Moshe Muller. Her mother's name was Hinda, her father, as I mentioned, Gavriel. Dovid's grandmothers sisters and brothers were: Chedva Gizzie and Rozie, brothers were:Yisroel, Avraham Abba, Emil, Lazar and Shalom Yehuda her name was Pearl, do any of these names ring a bell? Again Shavua Tov and Lehitraot, Rena Novack

Author: fgold170@icanect.net (SHERRIE AND FRANK GOLDSMITH) at INTERNET Date: 7/15/96 12:30 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: MILLER ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- SOLOMON MILLER was my stepgrandfather he was 93 when he died in Brooklyn,ny in 1986.He was from Russia,via Cuba -- Internet Communications of America, Inc.

Author: irving.levine@juno.com (Irving L Levine) at INTERNET Date: 7/29/96 3:14 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller request ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Boy, is my face red!! I apologize for my long delay in replying to your inquiry. Its not rudeness but a lack of organization and diminishing brain capacity <sigh>. Anyhow its probably a long shot for any commonality of trees but one can hope. I generated the following file today so that the problem wont recur. Rather then speculate about it here is a summary of my MILLERS. -------------------------------------------------- MILLER Family updated 7-29-96 I have only been able to trace my MILLER side to my ggf and I have few hard facts about the early branches. Hyman MILLER (ggf) m Toby ? They had six children Sarah m. Sam EDENBAUM Anna m. Ben MILLER Ben m. Lena ------? Isaac m. Zelda MAGID Joe m. Clara -----? Pearl 18?? - 1973 (my Grandmother) m. Philip SMUGOWICZ All are presumed to have been born near the town of Lomza, Poland but only on the basis that her husband Phillip was born/lived in Piantnica near Lomza. Grandmother Pearl married Philip SMUGOWICZ ( who resided in Piatnica) They had 4 Children. The first 3 were born in Lomza and the 4th in Toronto (where the family had emigrated to and adopted the LEVINE Name.) They emigrated in the time frame of 1904 -1912 Samuel 1899-1976 (my Father ) m. Eva CHAIKOFF Rebecca 1901 - 1994 m Jack LERNER Fred 1904-1986 m. Thelma PARNESS Rose 1913 -1982 m Isadore LAPIDUS Most of Hyman's children lived in central New Jersey though I am not sure how they arrived there and I am also uncertain as to whether Hyman ever emigrated. I have quite a bit of tree data for Hyman's descendants but not a lot of dates or other hard data. And of course as with the SMUGOWICZ-LEVINE switch, who knows what MILLER might have been in Poland! If the above provides any areas of possible connection please dont hesitate to contact me by email , snail, or hail. Sincerely Irving Levine irving.levine@juno.com irving.levine@mercopus.com (813) 446- 8765 1949 Beckett Lake Drive Clearwater, FL 34623 P.S. If any of your other contacts histories appear to jibe with mine please let me know, Irving

Author: LTCOL David M Fox <dmfox@nadn.navy.mil> at INTERNET Date: 7/4/96 6:06 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Re: Your fall '95 entry ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Hi Moishe, I do not believe that Saul Miller is still alive. The book he wrote, "Dobromil: Life in a Galician Shtetl 1890-1907" was published in 1980. There is a photo of Saul Miller in the beginning of the book and he looks to be in his 70's. It is now 16 years latter. However, in the book, I found a card that might be his son's. It says: Leo Miller, P.O. Box 1107, New York, NY 10009. Hope this is of some help. David Fox dmfox@nadn.navy.mil Arnold, MD On Tue, 2 Jul 1996 moishe_miller@ccmail.prusec.com wrote: > Hi, > > I reread all my back issues of Gesher Galicia & found your mention of > the Dobromil Yizkor book. I am doing Miller research & would be > interested in contacting Saul Miller. Would you know how? > > Thanks! > Moishe Miller > Moishe_MIller@ccMail.PruSec.com > >

Author: RMiller871@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 7/7/96 7:37 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller Update ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear Moishe, I'm glad you e-mailed me because I was going to write to you again! I believe we corresponded by snail mail some time ago. Since then, I have done some more research, but don't know whether or not it will help us make a connection. As for your note regarding translating material about Munkacs, that is not part of the Miller family. The Miller family is my husband's side and the Munkacs people are on my side. First the Miller family: Chaim (Hyman) Miller lists his birthplace as both Maciow (ship manifest) and Wolza (naturalization). He was orphaned as a child and grew up in the family of the woman he married Feige (Fanny) Bieber from Kovel. They lived in Kovel before emigrating to the US, Chaim in1907 and Feige with child Nate age 5 in 1911. There was another older male child who died in a fire in Kovel prior to their emigration. Chaim's (b 1878) was the son of Natan Nuta. He had a brother Hirsch (Harry) Miller who was born in Triesk (Manifest). Unfortunately, that is all we know regarding the "old country". A search from JGFF revealed that you are also researching Miller from Maciejowa and was wondering if that could be the same town as Maciow and a possible connection. Second, Munkacs: The family names I am researching from this city are GROSS and EISDORFER. I have a copy of the Munkacs chapter from Arim ve-Immahot be-Yisrael (Jewish Mother Cities) ed. Ha-Cohen Fishman 1946. If you are not familiar with this work and willing to summarize/translate I can send you a copy. If you have already seen it, I would greatly appreciate your sharing. It is about 20 pages of small Hebrew text, no vowels. I hope we can help each other out. Please use this e-mail address rmiller871@aol.com instead of the one at Dowling. Thank you. Rhoda Miller

Author: pklein@stratos.net at INTERNET Date: 8/18/96 10:31 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: re:miller ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Just looked at your Miller page. It always seemed like such a common name that it was maybe not worth the effort of researching, but... my great-grandfather, aaron david muller, was born in Ivanovo/Janowa, not far from Pinsk. his father was Solomon Muller, who died in December 1926, probably in Pinsk. AD was born in 1883, so Solomon is probably around the 1850s. we always thought the name was miller until i looked at the passenger list. there, another surprise was that his US sponsor was an uncle, S. Schwartz, in brooklyn. AD's mother was Ida Matizansky, who survived Sol, but there's no further info. There also might have been a sis (AD's) named Yentl. this assumption is based on a photo with a yiddish inscription. That's all i know about the Mullers. I do know the town of Lenartov, though, since my Frankel family was from there. I recall seeing the name Lauer in the Slovak vitals for that area. Good searching! paul klein

Author: Michael Jesse Chonoles <chonoles.michael@acc.mds.lmco.com> at INTERNET Date: 8/28/96 10:49 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Re: Miller's ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- --- On Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:53:35 -0400 moishe_miller@ccmail.prusec.com wrote: > >Hi, > >Off hand no, but perhaps you can list the siblings of Morris (Yidel Moshe)? I wish I could, I only know about his descendants. There is persistant rumor that there were (are) Miller relatives in Chicago, but I don't relish the idea of calling all the Millers and asking. <grin>. >Also, please see my new site at >http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/HOMEMILR.htm Looks great. I like the Hebrew names and photographs. I certainly wish I had that much material about any of my families in Europe. As far as intersecting, the Belarus Mullers are the most likely to have been related. Its a real long shot, but Samuel could have been a brother/cousin to my Morris. Unfortunately, nobody seems to remember anything. Thanks for checking Michael > >Take Care, >-Moishe > >PS: My family is not from the tribe of Levy (Levites or Cohanim). > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Miller's >Author: Michael Jesse Chonoles <chonoles.michael@acc.mds.lmco.com> at INTERNET >Date: 8/24/96 12:07 AM > > >Moishe >I wonder if you see any connection between my Miller family and those you >have information on. My Miller family is the least well known, I believe >that they were from Brest (Brest-Litovsk). > >Thanks >Michael > > >Descendants of: Reuben Miller > >1 Reuben Miller b. BEF 1874 d. > m. Ruchel ??? b. BEF 1874 d. BEF 1909 > 2 Morris <Yidel Moishe> Miller b. 8 Dec 1874 d. 17 Sep 1960 > m. 1900 Rose <Ruza> Silberstein b. 1884 d. 19 Jul 1960 > 3 Sarah <Surah> Miller b. 28 May 1904 Brest d. 11 Aug 1989 > m. 9 Jun 1923 William <Velvel> Chonoles b. 14 Jun 1902 d. 26 Sep 1991 > 3 Rae <Rachel> Miller b. 20 Mar 1909 Brest > m. 18 Jan 1930 Harry Sotsky b. 2 Apr 1908 d. Mar 1995 > 3 Jack <Yakov Reuben> Miller b. 1 Apr 1916 NY d. 1 Jun 1951 > m. 11 Jun 1940 Evelyn Shertok b. 29 Jan 1919 > 3 Annie <Chana> Miller b. 6 Jun 1917 NY d. 10 Feb 1974 > m. 1939 Max Noah b. 16 Nov 1916 d. 5 Sep 1984 > 3 Herman Hyman (Hy) <Chaim> Miller b. 16 Aug 1919 NY > m. 29 Aug 1942 Rochelle <Ruchel> Gross Birn b. 7 Nov 1920 > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Michael Jesse Chonoles chonoles.michael@acc.mds.lmco.com >Chief of Methodology PHONE(610) 992-6212 FAX(610) 992-6299 >Lockheed Martin Advanced Concepts Center 8/23/96 11:51:10 PM >640 Freedom Center, Suite 300 King of Prussia, PA 19406 >------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -----------------End of Original Message----------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Jesse Chonoles chonoles.michael@acc.mds.lmco.com Chief of Methodology Phone(610) 992-6212 Fax(610) 992-6299 Lockheed Martin Advanced Concepts Center 8/28/96 9:48:11 PM 640 Freedom Center, Suite 300 King of Prussia, PA 19406 ------------------------------------------------------------

Author: Sand3410@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 8/25/96 6:28 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller from Dobromil ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Hello Moishe, I saw your name in the Family Finder and read your Jewishgen Home Page. I was wondering which Miller family you were looking for from Dobromil? Do you have a Mordechai and Rosa Knopf Miller on your family tree? Their children were Harry, Alex, Sarah, Pessel and Rifka. Alex wrote a chapter in the Dobromil Yizkor Book. I am most interested in the Knopf side of this family. Looking forward to your reply. Sandi Goldsmith sand3410@aol.com Author: Sand3410@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 9/4/96 12:08 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Moishe, I certainly enjoyed your new Miller home page. You are so lucky to have those wonderful photos! I did not see any names that were familiar to me except the children of Shlomo of Galicia. I noticed that there were no names specifically from Dobromil or Przemsyl. Do you have any information about the Miller's from there yet? My information is sparse to say the least. Most of what I know about the Millers in Dobromil comes from their yizkor book. Hersch Melamed was the grandfather of Elie (Alex) Mehler. Alex was born in 1896. His father Mordecai died in Dobromil in 1900. His mother Roizaly (Rosa) was my gr-grandmother's sister. She was born in 1875. I gave you Alex's siblings names in my last post. A brother, Hersch married one of my grandmother's sisters, Baila Gross, from Przemsyl. She was his first cousin. The Gross family was a very large one. The name on their ships passenger list was Mehler, but was always Miller, in the states. My husband and I were living in Ukraine for 9 months this past year. I was able to visit many of my ancestral shtetls including Przemsyl and Dobromil. If it isn't too much trouble, could you please check to see if you have any information about this family. Many thanks, Sandi Goldsmith

Author: NJReady@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 10/1/96 7:04 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Re: Muller ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear Moishe, The Muller branch of my family goes back to Jonah Muller who married Rivka Wiesel of Sighet, Romania early in the 20th century. Rivka's brother was the father of Eli Wiesel, the well-known author. Jonah & Rivka had at least 3 children - Helene, Alter, and Zivya. Helene Muller married Moshe Herskovits of Ganech, Czechoslovakia. They had many children, 3 of whom survived the Holocaust and today live in NYC, Toronto, and Israel. Is there any possible connection with your family or with anyone who you've come across in your research? Please let me know either way! Drop me an e-mail or feel free to call at 201 997 7134. Sincerely, Arnold Koch

Author: <104130.3021@compuserve.com> at INTERNET Date: 10/2/96 3:14 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller Genealogy ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- I have only recently started to research my fathers' family tree (Miller) and have 'some' information about a few members of the family which may or may not connect with your family. I just recently saw your family page in JewishGenSite. I will give you a brief summary of what little I know about this Miller family. The accuracy of spelling or other details is unknown to me. It would be of interest to me if you thought there might be any connection with any of the individuals you have documented on your family page. My Grandfather, Mendel Menachem Miller was reportedly born in 1868 in Kabaliak, Poltava. He married Shana(Galia) Zelickson in 1895 in Kremencug.4 chidren were born in Kremencug; 3 girls Raizel, Zelda, and Fruma; one son Avrum Fisher(my father); and after immigrating to Canada in 1906, they had one more son, Meyer Zalman.Kremencug is not all that close to locations of cities you have mentioned. Mendel Menachen is reported to have had 8 siblings; Hilkkel, Moitel, Zelda,and 4 more brothers and one more sister (names unknown). Mendel Menachen and his brothers and sisters were the children of my Great Grandfather Avrum Fisher Miller and wife Raizel. I do not any information on their birthdates (probably about 1845?) nor their birthplaces. The family immigrated to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. I would be pleased to hear from you. Good luck in your research. Terry Miller #204-2008 Fullerton Ave. North Vancouver, B.C. Canada V7P 3G7 e-mail 104130.3021@compuserve.com

Author: Ron Miller <rmiller@focus.optometry.ohio-state.edu> at INTERNET Date: 9/11/96 11:02 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller geneology ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- I have not dabbled in family geneology before but upon surfing into a Jewish geneology site found your page on Miller/Muller. I am not sure if my Miller is also yours but you are best to decide. My father, Samuel Abraham Miller, now deceased, was born in 1901 in or around Pasvalys, Lithuania. His father was Harry Miller (Muller)(1870-1922), son of Chiam and Bluma (Weinberg) Muller. Harry was married to Mirila (Cheruf). Chiam and Bluma's other children were Ben-Zion (1857-1945), Leah, Lippa (1860-1940) and Hannach. This is as far back as I can go. Now that my curiosty is whetted I await your reply. Gut Yom Tov. Ron Ronald H. Miller, O.D. The Ohio State University College of Optometry College of Medicine Problem-Based Learning miller.45@osu.edu

Author: Jonathan Goldmacher <JGoldmac@DMBB.com> at INTERNET Date: 9/17/96 12:50 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Re: Julius Miller -Reply ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Moishe, Gedalia/Julius Miller was approximately 18 years old when he made the trip from Pultusk to New York in 1905. I have seen your website -- it's great! -- and that's what led me to your email address and the subsequent letter. I appreciate your time and your looking out for him in the future. Best of luck on your continued search and of course, Shana Tova, Jonathan Goldmacher Author: Jonathan Goldmacher <JGoldmac@DMBB.com> at INTERNET Date: 9/16/96 7:37 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Julius Miller ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear Moishe, I noticed you are researching both the Miller name and some regions of Poland. My direct line of decension is from Pultusk via Prychnitz. Some of my family has also been recorded in Ciechanow and Macavaw, however the bulk of my information is of the line coming from Pultusk. I have heard the story of a mysterious "cousin" of ours named Gedalia (also known as Julius Miller) who apparently made the trip to the US in 1905 with my grandfather's brother, Moishe Goldmacher. I have been unable to turn up clue one about Julius Miller other than the fact that when he made the trip with my great-uncle Moishe he (Julius) apparently had a relative here who may have been a physician and that he (Julius) lived amongst the family in Brooklyn. All of my elder relatives remember glimpses of him in ther memories and instantly recognize the name and say "sure...he was a cousin" but no one knows how. Ring any bells with you? Thanks for your help. Jonathan Goldmacher

Author: AJMDR@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 12/1/96 8:10 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller Connection ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- My grandfather became Jack Miller, Brooklyn NY after coming to North America. He was born Jacob Uscher Mehler, Sadagora, Bosnia-Herzegovinia (?) November 16, 1891. He worked in Hamburg July 1, 1906 to April 24th, 1910. He emigrated to Montreal and then to NYC. He had siblings, in birth order: 1. Jack; 2. Dave (Canada then US), 3. Harry (California), 4. Martin (to Budapest, fought in WWI, survived WWII, lived until ca 1950's -- one daughter (Elisabeth) survived the conc camps--married Russian officer soon after liberated, 2 daughters b. Judy 1946/ Anna 1948), 5. Bessey (m. Rosenfeld, in Montreal, sons Arch and Hyman, daughter (Jenny), and 6. brother (name?). I'm particularly interested in finding information on Bosnian (Sadagora) and Budapest connections. Can you help? Art Miller AJMDR@aol.com

Author: Dick and Jill Miller <MMS@TheMillers.com> at INTERNET Date: 1/15/97 10:44 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: More Millers from eastern Europe ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Hello from another Miller, Moishe! I just stumbled onto your Webpage: http://free.websight.com/Miller3/ My late father, Benjamin Hoffman Miller, came to Passaic, NJ in 1908 at age 8 from Brest-Litovsk with his mother (Sarah/Sunny/Sonya Hoffman Miller) and two step-sisters from his father's prior wife, Yente Susserman, who probably died in 1898. My grandfather, Solomon Miller (after 1937, Samuel Miller, an independent tailor in Brest-Litovsk and later in NJ), came two years earlier to pave the way. Although they have other descendants, I know nothing about their European ancestors or relatives, and I know of no other relatives who also immigrated to America. I hope this helps, and I'm quite interested in any links which may appear. Best wishes from --A. Richard (Dick) Miller -- A. Richard & Jill A. Miller | MILLER MICROCOMPUTER SERVICES | | 61 Lake Shore Road | | Natick, MA 01760-2099, USA | Voice: 508/653-6136, 9am-9pm -0500(EST)| 42 18'00.79" N, 71 22'27.68" W| http://MMS.TheMillers.com

Author: AGloger@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 1/21/97 12:30 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- I have recently started to look into my family history/geeology. The Miller name is evident in both my mother's and father's family. On my mother's side, her mother, my grandmother's maiden name was Miller. Her name was Pauline (Chai Perel). She alwas said she was from Kieva Gubernya. She had two brothers that I was aware of. One, Sam, resided in Philadelphia. I am now in the process of tracing his daughter's family. I know of no other of his. There was another brother who I was told lived in Tallahassee,Fla. Don't know his name. On my father's side, his maternal grandparents were Millers---Joseph and Rivka. The family was from Austria-Hungary. For the most part my father's immediate family was from Galicia. My father was born in Tarnapol. Other names: Maternal--Strakoffsky Paternal-- Lorber, Heller, Weintraub If there is any connection E-mail AGloger@aol.com Thanks Author: AGloger@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 1/22/97 3:49 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Re: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- In a message dated 97-01-22 11:25:40 EST, you write: << I do have a potential connection for your maternal side with another family. Let me go through some of the old Email that I have received to try and find it. On my maternal side, I have little info. All I know is: Nachum Miller married? 3 children that I know of --Pauline(dob 1876) (Chai Perel), Sam and another son. Don't know if there were more children. Pauline married Moishe Strakoffsky. His parents were Ita Riya Leiberman and Yosef Strakoffsky. Moishe had brothers, Sam, Jack( who settled in Leeds, Eng and changed his name to Jack Stratton.) We recently found is decendants. Sam Miller married, I am only aware of one of his children, Celia, who married William Neistadt. They are still in Philadelphia. As stated, they were from Kieva Gubernya. They were Teteiver. Was there a city in the Gubernya called Teteiv? Can you give more details regarding your paternal Austro-Hungarian side? Dates? Specific cities? Any other generations? This sounds like a more promising area for us. May I add your Email to my "unkown trees" list on my site? >> Paternal family--also little known. (I got a little confused in my e-mail to you.) Rivka (Rebecca)Miller married Josef Lorber. They had a daughter(my grandmother)Sara Golda(dob 1874) who married Anshel(Arnold) Weintraub (dob1876. There was also a son. I believe his name was Anton (?) He survived WWll . My father found his in Zagreb. I only remember my father saying that his grandparents(Rivka & Josef) were well off and lived in Vienna. The last time he saw them was when he and his family came to Cleveland in 1922. My father was then 15 yrs. My father's passport and naturalization papers state placeof birth was Tarnopol, Poland. I know he was born in Galicia and that after WWl it became Poland. I'm not sure if the family was from the city of Tarnopol or the province. I remember him saying something about the exact place shortly before he died in 1992. I only started looking into family hx in Oct. 1996. I still have a lot of digging to do, but am watching message boards,etc and making inquiries. Would appreciate any leads. Realize the Miller name is common, and I don't have much to go on. If you want to add my e-mail to your "unknown trees" that would be OK. Can't see what harm could come of it. Thanx for your reply.

Author: Tessi Miller <tessi@multi.multicanal.com.ar> at INTERNET Date: 2/9/97 12:06 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller genealogy ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- I was just beginning a genealogy research when I came across with your page. My name is Teresa Miller and I'm afraid I don't know much but I tell you. There was Gregory Miller (I don't know the Yiddish name; my father says is something like Herchle) who was born around 1860, somewhere in Poland. He lived in Plonsk; there he had around ten children; the youngest was Jacob (my grandfather),who was born in Plonsk in July, 1898; about the rest of the brothers all I know is that at least one of them had moved to America, probably to Baltimore. Jacob had three children (one of them my father) and then moved to America. I don't know if any of that could interest you, but I would be grateful if you had something that could help me. Bye. Tessi

Author: GrantAnnaDillon <gad@nauticom.net> at INTERNET Date: 3/21/97 8:19 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller in Prussia ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- I have looked at your web site and am curious to know if you have any family members in the Prussia area of Germany. My g-great grandfather, Lewis Miller, came from Prussia (on the immigration form, he just wrote Prussia, no city name or anything). He came over here in 1869. Thank you! Grant Miller

Author: I Miller <i-miller@global.co.za> at INTERNET Date: 3/20/97 10:46 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- I was most interested to come across your page this pm. In particular the connection to the Miller familyy in Africa (South A in aprticular). My name is Ian Miller, only son/child of Samuel Bernard Miller who was in turn one of 4 (?) children of Frank (Ephraim) Miller. I would guess he came to SA probably at the turn of the Century. I understand there were at least 2 brothers in SA. There were also connections, I believe, to N. Ireland, Scotland and England. One cousin has Irish passports and connections Could there be a link? Regards Ian Miller

Author: "Marshall Miller" <hls@hls.mb.ca> at INTERNET Date: 3/13/94 10:40 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: The Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Hi there Moishe. Is it possible that we are related? I am just beginning my research into my Miller family roots. My name is Marshall Miller of Winnipeg, Canada. I am 33 years of age. My father is Frank Miller. He is the son of Louis Miller, a poor peddlar who immigrated to Canada from Russia as a young boy. At this point my knowledge of times and places is very limited but I hope to learn more soon. My Great Grandfather's name was Frank Miller, the son of Nathan Miller all of whom were from Eastern Europe. If any of this sounds familiar, or you can offer any clues to aid in my research I would be truly thankful. Thanks, Marshall

Author: levy1@erols.com at INTERNET Date: 2/20/97 6:57 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Miller ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Good afternoon Moishe, My name is Michael Levy, named after my great grandfather, Moishe Miller!!! I linked to your wonderful home page via the Jewish Gen Family Finder. I have gotten interested in tracing my roots over the last few months, and have started to collect some good information. My great grandfather, Morris Miller, had a brother named Simon, and they originally lived on the easter shore of Maryland, in Pocomoke City. They each married a daughter of the KLAFF family, of which there is an entire published history. Morris died in 1959, in Baltimore. He had left Pocomoke in the early part of the century, buying a farm in Reisterstown Maryland, the house still standing to this day. I recently corresponded with a John Miller, also living in Maryland, and it turns out we are related. John says his grandfather A.J. was helped to this country by Morris, who was his uncle. He does not know the name of A.J.'s father, who I guess would be Morris's brother. A.J. is buried in Calif. I believe. If any of this is relevant or familiar to you, I would love to hear it. Thank you for your wonderful home page, and I hope we find a connection. Michael _________________________ Author: levy1@erols.com at INTERNET Date: 9/26/97 12:03 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: The Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Good morning Moishe, I believe I wrote to once before, but do not remember the reply. I visited your web site again this morning, and decided to write to you. My name is Michael Levy, named for a Moishe Miller, or Morris Miller, who died around 1958, age 99. He married Annie Klaff, and the had a large family in the Pocomoke City, MD area for many years, before settling on a farm just outside Baltimore. They had four daughters- Rebecca, (my grandmother, Mary Weinman, Pearl Lichtenberg, Lillie Miller, and one son, Simon Miller. Does any of this sound familiar to you. Looking forward to hearing from you. Michael Levy

From: mleifer@hixnet.co.za (Mervyn Leifer) at INTERNET TO: Moishe Miller CC: leifer@interlogic.com Subject: miller.genealogy Priority: Normal Date: 5/9/97 1:11 AM ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- 15 May 1997 Dear Moishe I write to you from Johannesburg South Africa , my grandfather was a Miller who emmigrated to Africa in the 1930's from Ponovish Lithuania. The family tree as best as I can establish from my mother is as follows Isaac Behr Miller lived in Ponovish Lithuania he had 8 children two of whom are still alive living in Isreal. The children are Zallie Miller (alive) est age 82 has three children Rose ? (alive) est age 90 very frail no other details known to me Chaim Miller(d 60's)had two children. Vera ? (d 90,s)had one son and lived in NY Chava ? (d ? ) no details known to me Sonia Pomeranz(d 80's) had 2 sons living in Isreal (one of these sons may have a family tree) Shura Feldman (d 70's) had three children Joseph Miller (d 1948) my grandfather had three children all of whom live in Johannesburg. I believe that one of my cousins has Quite an extensive family tree. I hope this information may be of some help to you in your quest. Should you want any other information please e_mail me at mleifer@hixnet.co.za or try my brother Jeffrey in Toronto at leifer@interlogic.com Kind regards Mervyn Leifer (named after Joseph Moshe my maternal grandfather)

Author: "Rick Monroe" <RickMonroe@msn.com> at INTERNET Date: 6/4/97 6:31 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: Herman Joseph Miller ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Mr. Miller Although I have been researching my own family's genealogy for over 10 years, I have just begun looking into my wife's family and found your Miller home page. I am seeking information on my wife's great-grandfather HERMAN JOSEPH MILLER (1850 - 1944). His wife's name was Yetta (nee?) Miller (1864-1942). According to my father-in-law, Herman landed in Philadelphia, (when, I don't know) and lived most of his life in the US in Chicago. Children were Theodore Harvey Miller, Abraham Miller, Jacob J. (Jack) Miller, Harry Miller and Bell Miller. Other than my wife's immediate family, I don't have much additional information. Any assistance will be appreciated. Rick Monroe E-mail: rickmonroe@MSN.COM

Author: Eric Miller <miller24@ix.netcom.com> at INTERNET Date: 5/27/97 11:13 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CC_NYP5W1 Subject: interest ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- dear Moishe I just happened to come across your page by accident. however, I was facinated to find out that someone is researching the Miller background. My name is Yitzchok (Issac) Miller My father was born in a small town in Russia called Dubveh. My grandfather (deceased) was in Aushwitz and survived. However, His first family was presumed dead, and he remarried again in russia. My father is from the second marriage. If you get any other information pertaining to the Miller Roots please feel free to inform me. My main concern is to try and find out if anyone from my grandfathers first marriage survived the campes of Aushwitz. Thank you in advance, Yitzchok Miller.

Author: Valerie Fox <vfox@ican.net> at INTERNET Date: 9/16/97 3:54 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: MILLER ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Moishe, I saw in the JFF that you were researching MILLER in KOROTICHI. I was using the DM Soundex system for MILLER from GORODISCHE. GORDOSICHE is near BARANOVITCH in then MINSK GUBERYNIA, BELARUS. My family name is MILLER and my grandfather was MALACHOVETSKY or some such spelling from GORODISCHE. His name was MOISHE AARON MALACHOVETSKY who changed his name to HARRY MILLER. He emigrated to Canada I was wondering where KOROTICHI was and if MILLER was your original last name? Thanks for telling me you could not read the message. Could you tell me the reason why you could not read it. I wrote it through Microsoft Explorer and not my mail (Eduroa). Thanks Valere MILLER Fox Canada vfox@ican.net

Author: "David Goldberg" <mail08686@pop.net> at INTERNET Date: 9/5/97 8:48 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear Moishe, Thanks for contacting me. I checked your Mille website, but did not see an immediate connection with my family. However, I would like to add my information. It's great that you have started this. I had almost given up hope of making progress with a common name like Miller. Anyway, perhaps you can post this information for me: My maternal grandmother's name was Ida Miller. She was one of thirteen children of Jacob Miller and Zecil Hartman. They came from Austria-Hungary (now Ukraine) and I'm pretty sure they came from the town of Tysmenitsa. Their children who survived childhood were Huna (called Max, b abt 1887, married Gussie Steinberg in Europe), Jossel (b after 1887, married Anna Gelder in NYC), Raiza (b after 1887), Sarah (b after 1887, never married), Ida (b 1892, married Samuel Reiter in NYC), and Evelyn (b after 1892, married Nathan Stern in NYC). All the children lived in Brooklyn. They emigrated to the US between 1906 and about 1913. Raiza was not allowed to enter the US because she had tuberculosis. I can be reached at <mail08686@pop.net> or at 7508 Hampden Lane, Bethesda, MD 20814. Francine Goldberg ---------- Author: "David Goldberg" <mail08686@pop.net> at INTERNET Date: 9/5/97 9:11 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear Moishe - I took another look at your tree and saw a possible connection between my great grandfather Jacob (Yacov) Miller and Yacov, son of Menachem Mendel (grandson of Chaim Leib). It is possibe they could be the same person. The dates fit and the names of Jacov's children seem consistent with a possible relationship, particularly my grandmother's name, Ida (same as Ita?). All I know about Jacov was that he was a very intelligent and learned person, but of limited means. He may have had a physical disability. I also know that one of his sons was a math whiz. Is Bukowsko anywhere near Tysmentisa? Tysmenitsa is just east of Stanilov (now Ivano Frankovsk) at lat/long 48,54'/24,51' Can you tell me anything else that might help verify the connection? Fran Goldberg ---------- Author: "David Goldberg" <mail08686@pop.net> at INTERNET Date: 9/18/97 11:07 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear Moishe My message must have been lost in cyberspace. My maternal grandmother's maiden name was Ida (I noticed several Ita's in your tree. Could this be the same name?) Miller. She was born in Galicia in 1892. I believe she lived in or near Tysmenitsa, which was part of Austria-Hungary and is now in the western Ukraine, near Ivano-Frankovsk. Her parents were Jacob (Yacov) Miller and Zecil Hartman (Hertzman?). The names of her siblings who survived childhood were Huna (pronounced Choona), also called Max, Joe, Raiza, Sarah, and Evelyn. If I understand your tree correctly, Chaim Leib (1763-1866) was a Miller from Galicia who had a son Yacov whose age could match that of my great-grandfather Yacov. Unfortunately, I know little about him except that he was a learned man who may have had some physical disability. According to my aunt, he earned his living as a kind of village advisor. Any suggestions you might have for establishing a connection would be appreciated. Your web site is terrific! Fran Goldberg 7508 Hampden Lane Bethesda, MD --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Goldberg" <mail08686@pop.net> at INTERNET TO: Moishe Miller Subject: Re: Priority: Normal Date: 12/9/97 11:02 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your tree has Chaim Leib (c1873-1866) with 7 known children, one of whom was Menachem Mendel (c1830-1915). One of Menachem Mendel's children is listed as Yacov (Josef?). As I explained in my previous message, my grandmother's parents were named Jacob Miller and Zecil Hartman. They lived and died in (now in Ukraine). Unfortunately, I do not know the names of their siblings or their full Hebrew names. My grandmother's siblings were names Max, Joe, Raiza, Sarah, and Evelyn. Some of these were clearly Americanized names. It would be fine to list the information I've sent on your unkown Miller page. I will try to provide some more facts if I can.

Author: AMiller132@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 10/10/97 1:25 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: miller family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- I am writing because I have seen your homepage, and I am interested in finding my grandfather's family. My grandfather's name was Volfe Sisel Miller (we knew him as Velvl). He was born in 1889 and died in 1980. His parents were Lieb (Labe?) Miller, and Rivka Bakatursky Miller, from a town near Vilna, Lithuania. At some point they moved to Poland, near Warsaw. I am trying to find the name of the town, but I don't have it yet. His family were Cohanim. My grandfather came to the U.S. around 1905 at age16. He was sent by his parents, aboard a ship which went first to England and then to the U.S. He had an uncle in New York named Morris Anderman who he found, but later lost track of. My grandfather was one of 12 siblings. The only one whose name I know is Gershon, and he may have gone to Israel. I am just beginning my research and would appreciate any information you might have. My grandfather settled in Detroit, MIchigan around 1910 or so, and lived there the rest of his life. Thank you for this opportunity. I look forward to hearing from you. L'Shana Tova! Amy Miller I can be reached at : Amiller132@aol.com

Author: Jeffrey Muller <MULLERJ@cesmtp.ccf.org> at INTERNET Date: 11/6/97 5:25 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: FAMILY TREE ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- I AM TRYING TO RESEARCH MY FAMILY TREE AND CAME UPON YOUR NAME ON THE JEWISH GENEOLOGY WEBSITE. DO YOU HAVE ANY RELATIVES WITH THE LAST NAME OF MULLER (WITH AN UMLAT OVER THE U) OR MILLER WHO LIVED IN ROMANIA? WE HAVE RELATIVES WHO LIVED IN VICIOU (THE SPELLING IS WRONG BUT FOR NOW THAT'S THE BEST I CAN DO). IT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED IN A PART OF TRANSYLVANIA IN ROMANIA. HALF OF OUR FAMILY IS MILLER AND THE OTHER HALF MULLER BECAUSE THERE IS NO UMLAT IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. THANKS FOR ANY HELP. JEFF MULLER. _______________________________________________________ Author: Jeffrey Muller <MULLERJ@cesmtp.ccf.org> at INTERNET Date: 11/7/97 12:27 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: FAMILY TREE -Reply ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- The province in Romania my relatives came from was called Maramures. The town they lived in was called visoul-de-sus, Over there, they spelled there name as Muller, with an umlaut over the letter "u". Thanks for your help, and have a good shabbos.

Author: "Murray (Moshe) Goldwaser" <MAUH2O@worldnet.att.net> at INTERNET Date: 11/1/97 3:46 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Miller family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- I have a Miller family from Kosice from Slovakia. You can contact them at: Dani Weiss 18 Rechov HaBaal Shem Tov Ramat Gan Israel

Subject: Re: Miller Family Tree Author: "don.tannenbaum" <d.tannen@MCI2000.com> at INTERNET Date: 1/16/98 9:28 AM ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Thank you for your e-mail asking about Miller family connections. I read your excellent WEB page and the Broken Branches with a great deal of interest. I did not see a family connection to my branch of the family but my information for this branch is not complete. I have listed below the earliest known members of my Miller branch from Kremenets, Ukraine, Russia. Israel Miller (b.1850), married Dvorah (1st wife) and Yetta (2nd wife) and had nine known children with Dvorah: Ida (1872), Tobias (1878), Abraham, Wolf (1883), Jacob (1889), Yetta, Hyman, Sadie and Kate (1882). Don Tannenbaum Baltimore, MD d.tannen@MCI2000.com

Author: Isabelcym <Isabelcym@aol.com> at INTERNET Date: 1/29/98 7:38 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Hi Moishe, I checked your website and don't see any connection so far. Here's my story: my great aunt, Marysha (Miriam) TABACHNIK, from Vilna, emigrated here around turn of the century. Either in the old country OR here, she married a man named MILLER, first name unknown. They moved from NY to Cincinnati, had four children probably named Ted, Louis, Max and Jean (a girl). One of the boys moved back east and lived with his cousins, the LISKINs in New Jersey and he worked for the Post Office. This was probably in the 30s or 40s. That's all I know. I'm trying to find MILLER's first name so I can track the family. Any connections? Cheers, Isabel Cymerman, Manhattan

Author: audrey wiseman <audie@ezl.com> at INTERNET Date: 2/1/98 1:21 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: moses miller ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear Mr. Miller, I am seeking information about Moses Miller from Russia (I do not know the city). He had the following children: Louis Sachs (name changed to Sachs from Miller to avoid the conscription into the Russian Army), my great grandfather; Joseph, Etta, Elyah, and Lena (I beleive that Lena was the daughter of Moses and his niece who he married). Louis (Miller) Sachs' second wife (my greatgrand mother) was Ida Katzenellenbogen who was the granddaughter of the Goan of Vilna, Lithuania. I believe that Louis Sachs was also a rabbi. If you or any of your readers have any further information about this Miller family, please write me at audie@ezl.com. Thank you, David Wiseman

Author: Aaron Remer <aaron@remer.org> at INTERNET Date: 2/1/98 6:11 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 CC: aaron@remer.org at INTERNET Subject: Chaim Miller ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Moishe, Are you related to Chaim Miller from Hivniv? Thanks -- Aaron Remer (VE2-AJV/4X8-AR) D.N. Lev Hasharon P.O.B. 199 ISRAEL 42860 Internet: aaron@remer.org Compuserve: remer@compuserve.com WEB URL: http://www.acces.com _________________________________________________________ Date: 2/2/98 12:32 PM Priority: Normal Receipt Requested TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: Chaim Miller ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- On 1 Feb 98 at 19:01, Moishe_Miller@ccmail.prusec.c wrote: > Hi, > We did have family in Ugnev, as it is called in the Ukraine. Can you > elaborate on any of the details you may have regarding this Chaim? > -Moishe Chaim Miller was the patriarch of Joe, Max, Moe and Bertha Miller of Montreal (I think I left a couple out). Joe is still alive. Bertha's husband was Elo Remer, my father's brother, also from Ugnev (known in yiddish as Hivniv). I am currently researching for a book I'm writing on my father (Z"L). Aaron

Author: Fmlyhx@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 2/7/98 11:13 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Enjoyed your home page ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- You e-mailed me regarding the Miller home page, which I enjoyed a great deal. Unfortunately, all I know is that the earliest Miller I have Louis or Lewis Miller, my PGGF, who lived in Baltimore at one point, then possibly Pittsburg, and is thought to be buried in the Chicago area. We may be connected, but I have no way to make the connection. Your names did not include the first names of any of my known Miller relatives. Thanks anyway. Sincerely--Judy Miller ___________________________________________________________ Author: Fmlyhx@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 2/10/98 2:22 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: Enjoyed your home page ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- In a message dated 98-02-08 19:53:09 EST, you write: << Was he from either Presov or Riga at any point in time? -Moishe >> Moishe, I wish I knew. We know virtually nothing about him or his family. The only thing we know about Louis/Lewis is that he married Betsy Krulewitch whose family was from Baltimore & Lithuania, they may have lived in Pittsburg at one point--ify, they lived on the Lower East Side, and that he may have died in Chigago...He was astranged from the family by the time my GF Philip was bar mitzvahed because he beat my GGM. If you hear of anything that rings a bell let my know. All my best--Judy Miller

Author: Ted Kandell <ted@cyber-wizard.com> at INTERNET Date: 3/12/98 10:06 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- I am researching my ancestor "Meshel" Miller, who married Chaya Schaindel Schertzer and were the parents of Tillie (Taibe) Kandel, who died in 1943 in NYC and was married to Samuel (Schloime Niteh) Kandel. She was born in 1870, and apparently came with here husband from Narajow in Galicia. I don't have any hard information on this (the microfilm of the passenger list index is too smudged to read) but they were buried in the Narajow Bros. plot in Mt. Zion cemetery in Queens. Apparently Tillie Kandel's parents didn't emigrate to the US, since on her death certificate their names are given in only Hebrew/Yiddish form, and have no English equivalents. The informant for her death certificate is Esther Miller, who was her daughter and perhaps married a cousin on the Miller side. Narajow (Narayev) is just a couple towns southeast of Lvov, and you have a geneology for a disconnected branch that comes from Lvov (Lemberg) in Galicia, with a Meshullam as the father and a daughter named Esther. These are not the same people of course, but could it be that "Meshel" is short for Meshullam? Maybe they were in a branch of the family that had the name Meshullam in it. There seem to be quite a number of descendants of Samuel and Tillie Kandel, since they had seven children. Here are their children: In the N.Y. County census of 1915 the following people are listed at 54 E 3rd St. N.Y: Age Birthpl. Years in U.S. Kandel, Samuel 48 Austria 16 Kandel, Tillie 45 Austria 16 " Joseph M. 26 Austria 16 " Ester 17 Austria 16 " Sarah 13 U.S. " Benjamin 11 " " Issac 8 " " Sylvia 6 " " Meyer 3 " Hopefully this is helpful and connects somewhere to the Millers in Galicia. BTW, is Miller too common a Jewish name to link up everyone with it into the same geneology? Let me know if this links up somehow, Ted Kandell -- Ted Kandell ted@cyber-wizard.com home:+1-415-929-9138 http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/7360 Historic Pictures from Vetka, Belarus -|\O - - | \_______ - - - /=======\=====o===\ ____(o)__________________(o)_____ Remember: Colorless green ideas sleep furiously! -N.C. ___________________________________________________________ > Moishe_Miller@ccmail.prusec.com wrote: > > Hi, > There is the possibility of a connection. Do you know of any other > Millers that you ARE related to? Not all Miller's are related, but the > family was extremely large and I do have many holes in the tree, so I > know that I have to be able to find more branches. The geographic > location of your family lends further support to a potential link. I > do disagree though on your assumption that their parents were not in > the US based on Yiddish names found on a death certificate. That is > inconclusive. You do not know who supplied the info, or what their > state of mind was at the time. > Please keep me posted. Can I add this to my OTHER MILLER's list? > -Moishe > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: Ted Kandell <ted@cyber-wizard.com> at INTERNET Date: 3/15/98 4:10 AM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Moishe, Actually, according to the US and NYC censuses, the only people living at 54 E 3rd St. were Samuel and Tillie Kandel and their children. Also, the passenger list shows that only Tajbe Kandel and her son Jene (Joseph Martin) came together in 1901, which corresponds with the later census data showing that Joseph was the only child not born in the U.S. Apparently they lived at the same address until their deaths. So it seems likely that Meshel and Chaye Miller didn't immigrate after all. Being that the Kandel family should be large (I don't know anything about the extended family) there might be other people who have some better infomation than I. I believe that three was a Benjamin Kandel living on the same block on E 3rd St until at least the late 1970's. One other avenue I can pursue is to look at the other names in the Narayev Landmanschaft plot for Millers and see it they are related to Meshel Miller. Please do include this geneology in your other Miller's list. List Samuel and Tillie Kandel and their children and maybe this will jog someone's memory out there. I'll try to find out more and keep you posted. I believe that there is a Yizkor book for Narayev-Brezany but I haven't seen it. Maybe this has some more Miller's in it too. BTW, what Hebrew name do you think Meshel is short for? Meshullam, Moishe, or something else? That could be a good clue. Thanks, Ted Kandell __________________________________________________________ >Moishe_Miller@ccmail.prusec.com wrote: > > Hi, > Could Meshel really be Mechel? I have never heard of Meshel before. > -Moishe > ______________________________ Reply Separator ________________________________ Author: Ted Kandell <ted@cyber-wizard.com> at INTERNET Date: 3/20/98 6:29 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Moishe, The copy of Tillie (Miller) Kandel's death certificate clearly says "Meshel Miller". What would Mechel be a diminutive for? Mikhuel? And what would be the Yiddish diminutive for Meshullam? I could be that the "Yiddish" double for Mesullam might be "Misha" in the same way that all Hebrew names were paired with a "Yiddish" (German,Polish or Russian) second name, like Dov Ber, Lazer Wolf, or Shraga Feivel, because of the legal prohibition against having an "official" Hebrew name. So Meshullam might be "Meshullam Misha" or something like that. I just have never heard the name Meshullam as part of a traditional name-pair, so I don't know what the pair would be. Do you think that the name Meshullam is sufficiently rare to increase the likelyhood of a relationship (no proof of course)? Ted

Author: "Myrna Levin" <mlevin1412@m3.sprynet.com> at INTERNET Date: 3/19/98 6:50 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Genealogy ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- I saw your posting on the JewishGen site. My grandfather's first wife was Minnie Miller. He was Joseph Nadelsteicher of Sanok. I have some contact with that part of the family in New York (Nadel). Is there any connection? Myrna Levin mlevin1412@m3.sprynet.com ____________________________________________________________ Author: "Myrna Levin" <mlevin1412@m3.sprynet.com> at INTERNET Date: 3/21/98 10:06 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- The following information is from a handwritten Nadel Family Tree which was made in 1989. I can't confirm its accuracy. Perhaps you can find a connection there. Minnie Miller - father - Harry mother - Pearl (both names sound Americanized) brother - Jacob Miller, b. 8/3/1878 d. 2/15/1951 married first wife, Ida, in 1905; children - Sadie, Lillian, Pauline married 2nd wife, Fannie Leon, in 1915; children - Goldie, Leo brother - Louis Miller, married Lena Straus; children - Pauline, Minna, Ann, Marilyn I have some information on all these children, too. Minnie Miller married Joseph Nadelsteicher - They had 4 children - Samuel Nadel, Jacob Nadel, Feiger Kresch, Mischket Bertenthal Let me know if there are any links here. Perhaps we can check further. Myrna Levin ----------

Author: Todd Warnick <warnick@netvision.net.il> at INTERNET Date: 3/20/98 2:52 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: More Miller's ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Moishe: My late grandmother, Mariossel (Mary) Thal Miller (or as you note, Muller) came from Rokishok (Rokiskis) in Lithuania, near the Latvian border. There is seemingly an obscure reference to her father, "M.(endel) Muller on the Rokishok site in the Jewish geneaology page. She emigrated to Vancouver BC and later to Bellingham, WA with my grandfather, Ariel Thal, who came from Skopishik (Skopiskis). Most of the Thal clan settled in Bellingham -- as well as did a number of other families from Skopishok. Her brother -- Isaac (Izzy) Muller (Miller) emigrated to South Africa at some point and his last known whereabouts was Kimberly, South Africa in the early 50's. If you have any iedas about how we go about tracing him, I would very much appreciate it. By the way, I am very familiar with the unit of the Jewish Agency that specializes in the search for relatives as I was previously finance director of the Aliyah Department which funded this group. Mazal tov on your work and b'hatzlaa'cha! Kol Tuv, Todd Warnick Jerusalem

Author: LeAnn.Davis@jwalter.com (LeAnn Davis) at INTERNET Date: 3/24/98 4:51 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Fanny Miller ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Moishe, I was so excited to find your website. I'm interested in tracing the lineage of my great-great-grandmother, Fanny Miller. She lived in Indiana, was married to Sylvanus Cripe, and had at least one child, Fay (or Faye). Fay married Marvin Stump, and they had three children: Goldie Irene, Forrest Noble, and Helen Louise (my grandmother). I believe the whole family lived in Elkhart County, IN. Hope you have some information. I've only recently started tracing my family, and after 31 years of being a (lapsed) Catholic inexplicably and powerfully drawn to Judaism since childhood, I feel like I have stumbled on something that might explain everything. Not that the scientific/intellectual part of me believes there would be any biological basis to a feeling of kinship, but.... :) Thanks in advance for any help you can give me... LeAnn Davis LeAnn.Davis@jwalter.com

Author: "Ami Adler" <aadler@scf.usc.edu> at INTERNET Date: 4/6/98 8:53 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear Moishe, I found your web page on the Miller family through Jewish-gen, and I would like to know whether any of my family information sounds familiar to you. My grandfather, Emanuel (Menachem Mendel) Adler , was born in Dibeve, Ukraine, to Moishe and Yehudis Miller. (He kept his mother's name, Adler, for legal reasons.) Moishe's parents were Menachem Mendel and Rachel Miller. Moishe Miller's siblings included Avrohom, Pinchas, Yitzchak, Berel (?), and one sister. Moishe Miller had five children - my grandfather, Emanuel (Menachem Mendel); David; Sima; Rachel; and Selma. To the best of my knowledge, they all lived in Dibeve until the Holocaust. From inspecting your web-site, I could not see a connection to your family, however, in your "Other Trees" I noticed message #27, regarding Miller from Dibeve, which may be a connection. I tried sending the author of that message an E-mail directly, but I didn't get a response. Please let me know if you have any information for me. If not, please include this message in your "Other Trees". Thanks in advance, Chag Kasher V' Sameach, Ari Adler ________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Moishe_Miller@ccmail.prusec.com <Moishe_Miller@ccmail.prusec.com> To: Ami Adler <aadler@scf-fs.usc.edu> Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Miller Family > Hi, > I have census information regarding a Mendel Muller, living in > Northern Slovakia, during 1857, married with children. Could this be > yours? > -Moishe > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: "Ami Adler" <aadler@scf.usc.edu> at INTERNET Date: 4/8/98 11:02 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: Miller Family ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear Moishe, Thanks for E-mailing me. The Mendel Muller in the census record could theoretically be my GGgrandfather, (Dibeva was originally a part of Slovakia), although I would have guessed 1857 would be a little early for him to have been married with children. Do you have any more information? If you have a fax machine, could you fax me the record? My fax # is (310) 839-1855. Thanks, Chag Kosher V'Someach, Ari Adler

Author: "David & Deborah Peskin" <dx2etc@email.msn.com> at INTERNET Date: 4/13/98 9:47 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Miller Genealogy ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Moishe, Thank you for emailing me regarding the Miller family. I was very impressed with your Website! I'm a relative beginner at genealogy, having only been doing this for a year. What I know is that my great-grandmother's name was Gussie Miller (one of her children's birth certificates indicates it was actually Chaya Gitel Muller--with an umlat). She was born circa 1881 in Nemirov, Galicia. Her parents' names were Pesach and Rifka/Rachel (maiden name unknown). Gussie immigrated to NYC in the 1890s; she married Jacob Thaler (previously spelled Tahler) on 5 December 1903 in NYC. They had 8 children: Rachel (Rose) -- my grandmother; born 9 September 1904 in NYC; died 3 November 1989 in the Bronx Pesach (Paul) -- born 16 March 1906; died 22 July 1976 Anne Ethel -- born circa 1908; died 18 August 1972 David -- born 1911; died September 1918 Bessie (Betty) -- born circa 1912; died 4 July 1988 Rebecca (Rhea) -- born 11 March 1913; died 7 January 1994 Sarah (Sandy) -- born December 1915; still living Edith Yetta -- born 1 June 1920; still living Gussie died on 28 June 1966 in NYC and is buried with her husband in the Brzezaner Young Men's Benevolent Association section in Mt. Zion Cemetery in Maspeth. I took a cursory look at your Miller information and did not see any connection. If you believe that there may be a link, please let me know. If you need additional information about the children, I can provide that. Incidentally, all of the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of Gussie and Jacob have formed a "Cousins Club" and try to get together a couple times a year in the NYC area. Hope this was helpful. Deborah Peskin Longmeadow, MA _______________________________________________ Author: "David & Deborah Peskin" <dx2etc@email.msn.com> at INTERNET Date: 12/04/98 3:58 PM To: Moishe Miller/PSG/Prudential Subject: Re: Pesach Miller ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Moishe, All I know about my g-g-grandfather Pesach Muller is that he lived in Nemirov, Galicia. He and his wife had three children: Sholem, Meyer, and Chaje Gitel (Gussie) who was my great grandmother. According to Gussie's 1903 NYC marriage certificate, her mother's maiden name was Ruchel Millar (with an "a"). I don't know if this was a clerical error--it seems like too much of a coincidence. The children immigrated to NYC while their parents remained behind in Europe. I'm assuming Pesach died by 1906 because Gussie and her husband had a son born in this year who was named after him. Does any of this sound familiar? Do you know where to write for records from Nemirov? Regards, Deborah Peskin

From: Howard Breitbart <howitzer@computer.net> at INTERNET TO: Moishe Miller Subject: Miller Genealogy Priority: Normal Date: 10/7/98 10:40 PM Moishe, Shalom! I found your web site rather interesting, as I also have a Miller branch in my tree. I can only go back to the mid 1800's, but do not have the town/shtetl name. The earliest Miller I have is Mordecai, all that is known is he was from Poland. He had 5 children, Jacob, William, Leo, Ruth, and Bertha. Some of the children were born in Europe, but we only have the Americanized names. On the chance you find a possible match, I'd love to hear from you! Howard

Author: Eliahu Diner <diner@netvision.net.il> at INTERNET Date: 8/31/98 11:23 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: RE: <no subject> ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Moishe_Miller@ccmail.prusec.com [SMTP:Moishe_Miller@ccmail.prusec.com] Sent: August 31 1998 17:07 To: Eliahu Diner Subject: Re: <no subject> Hi, We have a potential match. Levi Yitzchok Miller had a daughter in Krynica who married a Gottleib from Grybow. Please see my website at http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/yuska.htm#L1.2.4.3 Please browse the site (click on the image of the tree to go to my home page). Let me know if you can help me as well. -Moishe ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: <no subject> Author: Eliahu Diner <diner@netvision.net.il> at INTERNET Date: 8/30/98 11:31 AM Thank you for your help. I know that a Marjen Mullerow married a Gottlob of my family, but I don't know which one. My be one of my father's brothers, my be she was my father's first wife that was killed in the Holocaust. If you can get more information and write me about it I'll be gratefull. Best regards, Eli Diner ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ From: CN=Moishe Miller/OU=PSG/O=Prudential SendTo: diner @netvision.net.il @ Eagle2 Subject: Gottleib from Grybow $Revisions: 07/22/99 04:34:47 PM Hi, We last corresponded in August 1998. You wrote: "Date: 8/30/98 11:31 AM Thank you for your help. I know that a Marjen Mullerow married a Gottlob of my family, but I don't know which one. My be one of my father's brothers, my be she was my father's first wife that was killed in the Holocaust. If you can get more information and write me about it I'll be gratefull. Best regards, Eli Diner " I found the lone survivor from my family, now living in Israel. His name is Yosef Massbaum and he lives at: Rechov Hamavdil 19 Ramat Gan Israel 52562 03 751 8166 He told me of his aunt, Miriam Miller, married to Binyomin Gottleib of Grybow. They had 2 girls and a boy (in that order), all of whom perished in the Holocaust. If you speak with him, please provide ANY other information he relates to you. In a few weeks, my website will be updated to include this info. Once again, it is at: http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/yuska.htm#L1.2.4.3 Many thanks! -Moishe moishe@langsam.com New York

From: kaniel@mofet.macam98.ac.il Subject: Your family tree PostedDate: 01/20/99 01:32:52 PM SendTo: CN=Moishe Miller/OU=PSG/O=Prudential CopyTo: Norm1865@aol.com DeliveredDate: 01/20/99 01:34:51 PM Hello Moshe Miller My name is Yael Kaniel. I live in Israel. My brother, Naftuli Hetzky (Norman) told me that he met with you and Louis Schonfeld this week - just the day after I returned to Israel from a visit to the family in NY. As my brother suggested, I checked your website and was very impressed. I have been working on ours for quite a while and about 90% of it is already in the computer at Dorot in the Museum of the Diaspora, Tel-Aviv. Because we have a Miller in the family, the connection to Nyirbator, Hungary jumped out at me. My father's (Z"L) family -Goldner from his father and Rezmuves from his mother - came from Nyirbator where my father grew up. Avraham David (from Nyirbator), my father's maternal grandfather, married Lea Bash (possibly of some connection to the writer of "Megaleh Amukot"). One of their daughters married Alexander Miller and went to live in Zsibo. Of their seven children, two survived -Moshe and Baruch. Baruch married Lea, had 9 children and lived in Meah Shearim in Jerusalem till they moved to Brooklyn about 35 years ago. Both Moshe and Baruch have since passed away. I noticed you were looking for a Bluma Zipkin, so being in Israel, I chacked the phone book for Tel-Aviv. There is no Zipkin (or Sipkin) listed at all. I also checked with directory information and was told the same. They did find, however, Allen and Dvora Zipkin in Jerusalem and a Harry Zipkin in the Smadar Hotel in Cesarea. What I suggest you do about Bluma is contact the "Misrad Hapnim" (Ministry of Interior) here with the last known details to see if she had changed her name to something Hebrew as many people do (we were Klein) or changed through marriage. My brother's oldest son is Zvi Elimelech, which you said is popular in your tree. I'll ask him about it. This probably came from his wife's tree - Silver. -- Shalom, Yael "He who asks is a fool for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask remains a fool forever." ...Chinese proverb mailto:kaniel@mofet.macam98.ac.il Visit me at: Yael's Heaven (always under construction) http://www.cdug.com/board/kaniel ICQ #4296693

To: moishe@langsam.com Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 01:05:08 +0200 From: mulle_nm@mail.netvision.net.il Subject: JewishGen Family Finder PostedDate: 11/26/98 06:05:08 PM DeliveredDate: 11/26/98 08:04:58 PM I find the name: "Miller Kosice Slovakia " under your name My father Shlomo (Shani) Miller immigrant from Kosice to Israel at 1939 before the war. He was Levi. Do you think that ther is any connection to your Miller ? Thanks, Aharon Miller _______________________________________________________ From: mulle_nm@mail.netvision.net.il Subject: RE: Miller Genealogy PostedDate: 01/10/99 07:53:09 PM SendTo: CN=Moishe Miller/OU=PSG/O=Prudential DeliveredDate: 01/13/99 10:16:52 AM Hi, thank you for your letter. My father Shlomo or Shani, was born in Coshize (slovakia) at 1916, His Father name was Menashe Miller (Or Muller) Menahe's father name was Zeilig. The names Zelig, Shlomo, Rozi and more that I found in your fantastic web site are also in my family. I know that Menashe (My grandfather) was very young when his father Zelig died, may be - at 1890. Menahe was born to his father when he was old man, to his second wife. All his brothers and sisters were from Zelig's first wife. To make it shortly, we are "LEVI", so it is very easy to check if ther is any connection between our families. My father Z"L, told us that ALL Miller (or Muller) who are LEVI - are relatives Thank you again, And I hope any way to hear from you, I am sorry about my English Aharon _______________________________________________________ OriginalSendTo: mulle_nm@mail.netvision.net.il MarketReviewDB: Compliance Approval DB PostedDate: 01/13/99 04:14:58 PM Recipients: mulle_nm@mail.netvision.net.il SendTo: mulle_nm@mail.netvision.net.il Subject: RE: Miller Genealogy Hi, Thanks for your letter and the details you provided. We are from the tribe of Yissochur, not Levi, so we are not related through the Miller side, unless it was originally from a great-grandmother's side of the family in your branch. On our side, it was always Miller, since 1780's. Drishat Shalom! -Moishe

To: moishe@langsam.com From: Disko18@cs.com Subject: Fwd: Miller Genealogy, other trees from Dubveh or Dibeve DeliveredDate: 11/07/99 12:12:39 PM My name is Don Iskowitz. My father Chaim Shmuel was born in Dibrova (Dubovje} currently in Ukraine (48' 00"-23' 50") about 5.2 miles NNW of the Romanian City of Sighet in the county of Maramures, in March of 1913. His mother was Faiga Shandel Muller and married my grandfather Mordcha (Mordechai) Isaacovitch prior to 1908. Faiga's father and several brothers owned and operated an orchard farm in Dibrova. My father came to Ellis Island with his mother in Oct-Nov 1921, possibly on the SS Rotterdam leaving from Antwerp Belgium, and settled in New York's "Lower East Side" where his father had preceded them in 1913. He had gone AWOL while home on leave from the "Jewish Brigade" of the Emperor Franz Josef of Austia-Hungary. I have a picture of him at 23 years old in his uniform with a "Star Of David" on his collar. Faiga and he were born around 1887. The extended family spoke Yiddish and Hungarian at home and most were observant Chassidim. My father was the youngest of three children to be born in Dibrova (referred to as Dubveh in Letter #27 and Dibeve in Letter #42) but the only child to survive long enough to reach America. His parents had five more children in America, two boys (the older born in 1924, and for the benefit of Eric Miller author #27 is named Yitzchok Isaac also) and three girls, one who died a child. The five surviving adult children of Mordcha and Shandel (who died and is buried in Queens, NY in 1931 gave them 14 grandchildren (of which I am one). Those 14 produced 25 greatchildren so far, and those 25 have so far have given life to 6 great-great grandchildren. The youngest born 5 days ago in New Jersey. I'm just getting started in my research and will be interviewing my deceased fathers siblings and cousins for further information. No doubt their information will be invaluable. Until then if you can be of any help it will certainly be appreciated and treasured. Thank you for your web page and please post this letter in your "Other Trees" section. Don Iskowitz, Pompano Beach, Florida USA

From: "abe miller" To: Subject: miller is a tough name to research Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:43:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Stumbled upon your interesting web page recently. I have had no luck in tracing my MILLER roots previous to the U.S. census of 1900. Most of the relatives are gone and how often I chide myself for never showing any interest as a young person when my father would relate stories which would be invaluable to my genealogical endeavers. At any rate this is what I know: My grandfather Abraham MILLER emigrated from Russia about 1890 probably with his wife, Ida. My father Harry was born in NYC in 1897 and his sister, Rose was born a year later. Abraham died in Philadelphia in 1910. My father and his sister moved to and remained in Philadelphia. My father married Rose LANE and his sister married Manfred LAPAYOWKER. I doubt that I will "connect" with anyone but anyway it's worth a try. abe miller langley, wa

Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:57:41 -0700 From: Brahna Derr Subject: Miller Family To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Hi, Do you have any information as to the Miller tree that would include Arthur Miller the playright? I have been told that he is related to the Miller's in my family. The following is my family tie to MILLER: Wulf ROTH (b. abt. 1851) m. Blima THALER (my GG-Parents) ...they had seven children one of whom was .... Laia ROTH (1875-1919) m. Mordecai MILLER .............Sidney MILLER .............Mindel MILLER m. Jacob DRILLER .............Fanny MILLER m. Sam ZUCKERBROD .............Nettie MILLER m. Joseph ISRAEL m. Harry HECHT m. Jay FRIEDMAN .............Blima MILLER m. Charles GEWIRTZ .............Techera MILLER Brahna Roth Derr bonnid@usa.net -- Researching -- Ukraine: KOFFLER, DUNST, GRUMER, LIPSCHITZ (Kolomyya, Zabalotov, Vashkowitz) Poland: ROTH, KURTZ, THALER (Mielec)

Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 05:10:36 -0700 From: Jerry Bernstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: moishe@langsam.com Subject: Possible Miller Connection My mother's mother was Gitle (Geezla) Froieda Miller (Gertrude or Gussie in America). She came to America approx 1906 with her husband Motle Novodworsky and other N. family members and lived in Brooklyn. Their last residence in Russia was in Kishinev, but we believe they may hae had earlier connections in the Minsk/Grodno area. Gitle's mother was Anna Petiler (possibly from Kolomia) and her father was Solomon Miller. Gitle's siglings were Clara, nat, Bluma and Esther. Anna (my great gm) lived to over 100 and died in the Brooklyn Hebrew Home and Hospital for then Aged. Anything familiar? Jerry Bernstein

From: "Mitchell R. Miller" To: "Moishe Miller" Subject: Fw: Miller Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:27:40 -0900 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mitchell R. Miller To: Moishe Miller Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 10:12 PM Subject: Miller Hi, My name is Mitchell R. Miller and my father was Arthur Clayton Miller and he claimed roots from Cambria County Pennsylvania. We have not been able to find any of his relatives. We think he was born sometime between 1865 and 1890. My mother traveled to Johnstown,Pa. in the early 60's and we think she found some people that knew him. He was married before and his wife and baby were supposed to have died in childbirth. My oldest brother was named Earl Franklin Miller, the next son was Arthur Glenn Miller. We have reason to believe that he was of Jewish descent as the military placed the star of David on his tombstone, military records are destroyed. He spoke French and served in WW I. If you think any of these pieces might fit into your research, I would really like to hear from you. My dad passed away in 1956 and we have been trying to fine some link for many years. Thank you, Mitchell R. Miller

From: "ralmin" To: "moishe miller" Subject: genealogy miller family from lithuania Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:29:03 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 dear moishe while watching my son surfing,i saw he had come to your website and your name struck me in an instant,for it is the name of my mother's great grandfather,so maybe there is a connection. i have not been able to get through to the records of vilkamir in lithuania to find out more of our roots. my mother was a born miller born in oudtshoorn south africa in l9l0.her father came out to cape town alone and left his wife CHANA born sheigam from janeva lithuania and four sons sons ,.it took him five years to save enough money to send for them to join him in cape town.after a few years two more sons were born to them twins this time alex and jos. then in quick succession three daughters were born after the family had moved to oudtshoorn becky,rachel(my mother) and sarah the only surviving sibling stil living in johannesburg 89 years old now. the oldest son simon had a departmental store in the town for many years he had five children louis,harold,the only daughter) reggie,meyer and natie, harold still living in cape town and the youngest son natie living in england. the second son cecil had four sons sam,harry,arthur and bokkie,bokkie is the only survivung one and living in johannesburg the third son morris had three sons hymie who came to israel in l948 and has remained here ever since,davy who lived in bloemfontein who passed away recently and bennie who still lives in cape town. the fourth son raphael had three sons and a daughter, jack who lives in port elizabeth s.a. abe who lived in toronto canada, deceased,aarie who lives in jerusalem and haddassah also of jerusalem, alex had two children one still in cape town and a son now of haifa israe l .mary and sydney. jos who came on aliyah with his parents and lived in ashkelon and later in nathanya where his two sons live to this day.menashe and benzy becky whose son lives in johannesburg and a daughter who lives is ashdod israel richard and .doreen rachel who had four children a son living in london a daughter living in israel and a son and daughter living in calgary canada. issy minnie judy and len sarah who son lives in london and daughter living in bloemfontein.goldie and mannie. there were 28 grandchildren born to chana and mordechai peretz miller and i do not know how many great grandchildren. while mordechai peretz came to s.a. to make his fortune,his father benjamin and his two brothers simon and tuvia came to palestine,they owned a pardessand part of it was donated to the state and became the campus of the weitzman institute for this effort the eldest son was invited to be the first president of the new little state and being a very modest man and not wishing to be in the limelight he refused this honour. many years a go a cousin came to israel on a visit and as all the offspring do,went to the cemetary at rehovot israel to visit the graves of our grandoparents. she also saw the graves of the three brothers,simon,tuvia and mordechai perez and their father,benjamin and of course on HIS tombstone was the name of his father,MOISHE MILLER. they all came from lithuania from a little town called then vilkamir near vilnius the capital, i don't know if we are connected to you but the name was the same and it took my fancy,maybe there are other Millers floating around who may be interested and have other stories to tell, i really wanted to go back a few more generations if anyone had information more than is at present in my possession. hope to hear from you or read more about ourselves in your website.lehitraot minnie blume israel.